Normie here, but I understand how shitty women are. I've been lurking here for months, but never wanted to be the self help "workout and make some gains" normie. I've noticed most of the incels here are either a) socially inept or b) really fucking ugly. I'm here to tell you that yes, that's probably a reason that women wont be with you, but there are also other reasons. Women are pretty shitty is the main one. I've generally been rated 8/10 and i'm somewhat muscular with no fat. I've been with around 10 women and I was also in a fraternity. (Not the gay christian or physics fraternities, a social one) I climb, workout, and do lots of other stuff outdoors. (The shit other normies say will make women want you) Its not fucking true, and even if it did, women aren't worth it. I was with a girl for 2 years, she is VERY attractive and was "in love" with me until I went to a University a couple hours away. I found out her snapchat password, logged in, and found out she had been messaging other guys about hanging out. One of them was her ex boyfriend before me. I messaged him on instagram about it and he apologized saying he didn't even know she had a boyfriend, she never mentioned me. He sent me screenshots of her saying how handsome he was, how much she missed him, etc. I sent her the screenshots and she broke down and started frantically calling/texting me. She was threatening to kill herself, saying she was going to come to my college, promised to never do it again. I didn't buy any of it, and broke up with her. This was a couple months ago. She is now the girlfriend of the guy, but occasionally tries to talk to me and hangout to have sex. It's pathetic. I'm happier now. I haven't interacted with or tried to date any women since then. Women are shitty, they have no idea what they want and they use and cheat whoever they can to get the most attention. I get bored just talking with them, none of them interest me at all. I'm not gay, but women are generally useless as companions because they never want to do the things you want to do, end up using all of your money, and cheat you out in the end. They aren't worth much incel-bros. I masturbate and do my own thing now and i'm pretty fucking good. I know you've never felt the inside of a vagina or anything, but believe me, the thing its attached to isn't worth the hassle of a relationship.
