Opinion The Dangerous Rise Of Men Who Won’t Date “Woke” Women

The word "irrespective" means saying or doing something without taking anything else into account. For example: "Irrespective of the fact that the cost of living has jumped, putting pressure on many people, the government ploughed on with Brexit and argued that there would be no real economic impact."

So it is fitting that white man of the moment, Laurence Fox – who appeared on the BBC’s Question Time programme and told a BAME audience member that Meghan Markle has not been on the receiving end of racism before subsequently appearing on the cover of The Sunday Times to tell the world that he does not "date woke women" and then displaying an appalling understanding of history by calling the inclusion of a Sikh soldier in Sam Mendes' film 1917 "incongruous" – has "irrespective" tattooed on his arm.

Did you hear that at the back, ladies? Laurence Fox – who you perhaps only knew as Billie Piper’s ex-husband because you’ve never seen Lewis (what?) – does not date "woke" women who he believes are being taught that they are "victims", irrespective of whether they are right or not. He thinks that it’s "institutionally racist" to tell the story of the First World War in a racially diverse way, irrespective of the fact that Sikh soldiers absolutely fought for Britain. And he also doesn’t believe in white privilege, irrespective of the fact that he works in a painfully undiverse industry, was privately educated and comes from a wealthy acting family which is nothing short of a dynasty.


Fox is denying racism and sexism, irrespective of whether or not they exist. It’s nothing short of gaslighting. It’s all very Donald Trump. And as you would expect, the whole debacle has lit a fire under anti-woke poster boy Piers Morgan while gaining Fox thousands of extra Twitter followers.

I could go over all the things he’s said; I could use data to prove how wrong he is; I could express concern for his mental health (after all, who really enjoys arguing on Twitter?); I could make jokes about his behaviour. But all of that would be to seriously miss the point.

There’s nothing funny about the things Fox – or Wokey McWokeface as he now wants to be known – is saying. It’s also not particularly sad. It’s dangerous. He is just one very privileged man, and as a result of said privilege, has been given a platform. And he has used that platform to legitimise a bigger backlash against diversity and progress which is unfolding every single day in less public corners of the internet.

Not wanting to date "woke" women, far from being laughable, is actually one of the more insidious aspects of it. Spend an afternoon on any major dating app and you’ll come across (generally white) men saying openly sexist and misogynistic things. They might say "no psychos" or that they "fucking hate big eyebrows" in their bios. And, by and large, they also tend to hold extremely right-wing views and see themselves as victims of liberal thinking.

In fact, as I was writing this, a dear friend sent me a screenshot of a guy she’s just matched with who describes Jordan B Peterson as his "dream dinner guest". Yes, the same Jordan B Peterson who thinks that white privilege is a "Marxist lie" and wants millennials to drop their obsession with "social justice".

I, meanwhile, recently had to block someone who after matching with me launched into a vile rant about how women are "evil", "only want sex" and treat men as though they are "disposable". When I asked him if he hated women he replied that he had "only moderate disdain" for us before asking me whether I didn’t want to date him because I’m actually "pretty rough".


All of this, of course, speaks not only to the presence of the very active online communities of anti-feminist incels but to the prevalence of the hideous and incorrect ideas they promote. It doesn’t take magical thinking to see how men are radicalised by anti-feminism. As the saying goes: "When you’re used to privilege, equality feels like oppression."

The reactionary influence of these ideas doesn’t stop at dating, though. As the campaign group Hope Not Hate reported last year, a hostility towards feminism is feeding directly into far-right movements online. They found that a third of young British people today believe that feminism is marginalising or demonising men and warned that these beliefs were a "slip road" to other far-right ideas.

This isn’t just speculation. We know that the number of far-right referrals to the British government’s deradicalisation scheme Prevent has dramatically increased recently. In the year from 2017/18 they jumped by 36%, while referrals for Islamism actually decreased by 14%.

Last year he released an album called A Grief Observed which is largely about his acrimonious split from Piper. When The Times interviewed him about it he turned up wearing a pro-Donald Trump MAGA (Make America Great Again) cap and said it was a "social experiment". He then told the interviewer that he spent a lot of his time watching YouTube interviews which had "totally radicalised" him and caused him to embark on a "crusade against woke culture and political correctness." He wanted, he said, to call one of the songs "Me Too" but was prevented by his record label.

Fox is a case in point that what might start as playing devil’s advocate by wandering the streets in a MAGA cap to provoke "hipsters" can quickly turn into something more sinister.

The far right itself can be difficult to pin down because it isn’t exactly a coherent global movement with a concrete set of ideas. It largely exists online, in Facebook groups, as Twitter accounts, on YouTube and anonymous message boards such as 8chan. But every now and then, their bile spills out dangerously into the offline world.

In 2016 the Labour MP Jo Cox was murdered by far-right terrorist Thomas Mair who, 25 years before he killed her, told a far-right magazine that the "white race" faced a long and very bloody struggle. And it was 8chan that hosted the manifestos of three mass shooters who killed scores of people last year: the El Paso shooter (who left 20 people dead and many more wounded only a couple of weeks ago), the Poway shooter (who opened fire at a synagogue in California last April) and the Christchurch shooter (who killed 51 people at two mosques in New Zealand last March).

Laurence Fox, whether he realises it or not, has just landed the biggest part of his life. He is legitimising hatred and division. And yet he cannot be completely unaware of the role he plays; he has spoken about being 'radicalised' himself on YouTube.

Susan Faludi wrote about the link between violence, anger and anti-feminism prophetically in her book Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women back in 1991. Long before the turbulent times which have seen the rise to power of two male caricatures – Donald Trump to the office of US president and the accession of Boris Johnson as our prime minister – she warned:

"When an attack on home soil causes cultural paroxysms that have nothing to do with the attack, when we respond to real threats to our nation by distrusting ourselves with imagined threats to femininity and family life, when we invest our leaders with a cartoon masculinity and require of them bluster in lieu of a capacity for rational calculation, and when we blame our frailty in ‘fifth column’ feminists – in short, when we base our security on a mythical male strength that can only increase itself against a mythical female weakness – we should know that we are exhibiting the symptoms of a lethal, albeit curable, cultural affliction."

She added: "When the enemy has no face, society will invent one." For men like Fox, who feel they have been wronged somehow, that they are missing out on opportunities because, for once in history, they are being given to other people, women and people of colour become the enemy.

“When the enemy has no face, society will invent one.
SUSAN FALUDI, BACKLASH: THE UNDECLARED WAR AGAINST AMERICAN WOMEN”

You can see it in the abuse and threats received by women MPs and in the wildly different treatment of Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton. While Middleton, who generally keeps herself to herself and says little, has become a pinup heroine for traditionalists, Markle, who has spoken openly about sexism and racism, trying to use her platform for good, has been – quite literally – driven out of the country, condemned for being an outspoken snowflake.

Make no mistake, the far right is already capitalising on Fox’s words, gassing him up and turning him into an icon. He has added to their backlash and given it oxygen. Every time he is invited onto a TV or radio show to talk about it, that oxygen will cause the backlash to burn hotter and faster, irrespective of whether we’re watching or not. It’s important not to trivialise this anti-woke, anti-women backlash. In the end, it’s only by paying attention to it that we can understand it and do something about it.
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According to feminist writer Vicky Spratt, men not wanting to date ‘woke’ women is an “insidious” trend that could lead to the radicalization of terrorists.

In an article for Vice Media outlet Refinery29, Spratt gets all worked up about Laurence Fox, the British actor who recently triggered a monumental hissy fit by daring to suggest that the UK was not a racist country and that “white privilege” doesn’t exist.

Fox has given several interviews in which he explains how he refuses to date ‘woke’ women who are obsessed with political correctness. He even said he dumped his girlfriend last year because she praised Gillette’s insufferable “toxic masculinity” commercial.

According to Spratt, Fox’s dating choices are part of an “insidious” societal trend that will inevitably lead to women being killed by terrorists.

“There’s nothing funny about the things Fox – or Wokey McWokeface as he now wants to be known – is saying. It’s also not particularly sad. It’s dangerous. He is just one very privileged man, and as a result of said privilege, has been given a platform. And he has used that platform to legitimise a bigger backlash against diversity and progress which is unfolding every single day in less public corners of the internet,” she writes.

Spratt then goes on to cite the killing of Labour MP Jo Cox by right-wing terrorist Thomas Mair as well as the Christchurch shooting and the El Paso shooting, despite the fact that none of these shootings had anything to do with anti-feminism or hatred of women.

Spratt’s actual grievance appears to stem from the fact that she is personally struggling to find a boyfriend (most likely because of her God-awful woke opinions) and is resentful towards Fox for touching a raw nerve.

“Spend an afternoon on any major dating app and you’ll come across (generally white) men saying openly sexist and misogynistic things,” whines Spratt (because of course she’s single and obviously bitter about it), before going on to suggest she isn’t having much luck with the dating scene.

Meanwhile, Lawrence Fox is presumably doing just fine because real women are not attracted to low testosterone pussies who spend all day consuming soy products and apologizing for their white privilege.
 
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Unfortunately for the dumb bitch who wrote this article, and all the poor deluded women who take her bullshit seriously, Men in general and what the modern woman has come to call an incel in particular have an alternative option to woke cuntbags like her. That alternative is called prostitutes. Meanwhile, some of these woke bitches are so fucking crazy that they might not even have orbiters.
 
But if they convert the majority of young women into their cult, then straight men will have no choice. I wonder if that's the goal, "empowering" women by reducing the amount of things they have to do to appeal to men (like grooming, dieting, dressing well, developing a pleasant personality &c.). When every "smart" and "quirky" girl from high school turns into a dangerhair even a landwhale becomes appealing.

"Modern feminism is a bunch of miserable, unfuckable women trying to make otherwise normal women as miserable and unfuckable as themselves." is the best description I've ever heard for it.
 
>be me
>be feminazi SJW stereotype
>want to date Chad despite having loads of beta male soyboy orbiters
>refuse to date beta male soyboy orbiters at all costs
>whine to media that Chad won't date me
>call everybody who questions my toxic political and personal views a Nazi incel
>whine to media, get online articles written about my "wokeness"
>be subject to even more ridicule
>at least I have my orbiters
This make me wonder, if I surround myself with pathetic betas, could I make myself look like an uber chad in comparison? Like how moderately attractive chicks surround themselves with hamplanets or other sub 4/10s to make themselves look hot?
 
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The woke women color their hair to an obnoxious color, they make their bodies undesirable with their body positive eating habits and they assume the most unappealing to men as possible ideology. Yet they complain that no one wants to fuck them. In their hearts, they just want some true alpha sadist like null to feed them and make them even more unappealing to men.
Where can I find the full video that features this...thing?
 
"They found that a third of young British people today believe that feminism is marginalising or demonising men"

Well. There you go. That is the bombshell here. If a whole third of a country disagrees with you, maybe it isnt just le ebil natsees brainwashing them. A third of all young people is no insignificant number. Perhaps you might be the one who is increasingly out of touch? No. It is your fellow young people who are wrong. Must be.

Marginalising and demonising men is exactly what feminism is doing.
 
I disagree with the author, guys seem perfectly happy to date woke women. The ones I know, the gf will openly trash white men in front of their white boyfriends. They won't even throw in "but so and so is different!" It's literally just white men are trash. And they all date only white men, despite talking about pocs constantly. Lol.
 
I disagree with the author, guys seem perfectly happy to date woke women. The ones I know, the gf will openly trash white men in front of their white boyfriends. They won't even throw in "but so and so is different!" It's literally just white men are trash. And they all date only white men, despite talking about pocs constantly. Lol.
Welcome to Liberalism in a nutshell "Other people should do it, I ain't dating a fucking nigger..that fat slut I work with should do it."
 
They have only themselves to blame for no one wanting to fuck them i mean, we got the case of Mattress girl, that alone is enough for any man to be wary of anyone with RGB colored hair, they can literally cancel you or worse get you in jail because "listen and believe and dont ask for proof"

So yeah, i hope they enjoy their last days with their cats but the comfort that the world is a safe place for LGBTBBQHAX/WAHMAN
 
I disagree with the author, guys seem perfectly happy to date woke women. The ones I know, the gf will openly trash white men in front of their white boyfriends. They won't even throw in "but so and so is different!" It's literally just white men are trash. And they all date only white men, despite talking about pocs constantly. Lol.
Notice how those guys tend to be rather soy filled and are kinda pathetic themselves? At least with the ones I know. They date women who make them look small and are generally hippie, marxist types or guys who won't get a girlfriend otherwise.

This article screams "My biological clock is ticking down". Feminism and SJWism tells women that they live in a patriarchal society, that they don't need a man to be successful and that they should work, and so they do. Then they reach an age where they are "successful", in the same way this author is an "successful journalist and political campaigner with her own wikipedia page" and decide they deserve a hot, successful man. She thinks that her professional success will win a "real man" over. Problem is, most men are not attracted by a woman's career success, it doesn't change the fact that she's a massive pain in the ass to be around. The only men who want them are beta orbiters who she's not interested in, so of course those men are "incels" or "alt-righters" or "misogynists" because they don't want a "woke/strong woman" in their lives.

I always hold the opinion that a strong woman does not need to tell people she's a strong woman or talk about the patriarchy/POCs. You will know one by the way they carry themselves and deal with matters, and that to me is very attractive.
They have only themselves to blame for no one wanting to fuck them i mean, we got the case of Mattress girl, that alone is enough for any man to be wary of anyone with RGB colored hair, they can literally cancel you or worse get you in jail because "listen and believe and dont ask for proof"

So yeah, i hope they enjoy their last days with their cats but the comfort that the world is a safe place for LGBTBBQHAX/WAHMAN
Mattress Girl ended up dating a Trump supporter who seems to have curbed her feminist tendencies. No surprise, being a feminist who believed "all men should die" made her fucking miserable. Once she dropped it and starting reading our boy Peterson and dating this successful Trumpster, she curbed those "stunning and brave" tendencies and felt happier.
 
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I disagree with the author, guys seem perfectly happy to date woke women. The ones I know, the gf will openly trash white men in front of their white boyfriends. They won't even throw in "but so and so is different!" It's literally just white men are trash. And they all date only white men, despite talking about pocs constantly. Lol.

It's shitty that this is the world we live in now, that women will sit around trashing white men, that this is the cultural climate.
 
There's about 100% overlap between woke women and women with personality disorders. Just run. If anything, woke is a favor, you'll know if a person is a self-involved disaster before you develop feelings for them.
I tell you women with actual personality disorders are more tolerable. I have friends who have BPD and they are much kinder and sweeter than any woke scolds Ive come across.

I disagree with the author, guys seem perfectly happy to date woke women. The ones I know, the gf will openly trash white men in front of their white boyfriends. They won't even throw in "but so and so is different!" It's literally just white men are trash. And they all date only white men, despite talking about pocs constantly. Lol.

I have a story about this.

Back in day I had some friends who were woke types who hated white men. I was going through abit of an SJW phase at the time because everyone does exceptional shit when they are young. When ever I posted anything they would turn it into a big political slapfight on my pages. It got so bad people routinely were shitting up my page at 3 am. Even worse, when Trump started his campaign, it got more and more austisc every month until election day when everyone melted down on everything. In the meanwhile, to cope with this I developed a moderately bad drinking problem. I was coming into class hungover and modding these flamewars drunk off my ass nealy every night, getting maybe 4 hrs of sleep. One day I put my foot down and said "Enough is enough. This is not good for me and I am taking a mental health break for a few months. Fortunately SJWs dot want to be ableist so that was one for them to let me off, with the promise I'd be back in a few months time. It helped, I cut back on alcohol too.

Enter the white man from my past, straight out of the snow. We'd dated nearly a decade before, and the years had just made him more beautiful. It didn't take long before the two us were dating again. I spent many hours with him, and every hour gave me yet more life. He stalked my whole FaceBook page, and he saw all the shit those people wrote about white men. He, with his blue eyes and fair skin, said "Wow, your friends will hate me then, I'm cis, het white and male."And I said "A minute with you than an hour of any of them. I'm done with it." An SJW I was no more, this is the #LoveWins story they don't want me to tell you about.

I shuttered the pages and account, announced I was dating him and moving back to my hometown. Thats the last the SJWs know of me, that I fucked right off to my hometown with this white ass man. They must have really hated him now.

A year on from the flamewars and the drunk late night modding among the banners and war crys, boyfriend and I were with some friends. One day the topic of its ok to be white came up. And boyfriend went wild reciting every single flame war that had been on my page humilating me n front of 10 people, esepcially since I now wanted to bury all of it. I didn't even remember some of the wars because I was so drunk, high and sleep deprived when I was moderating it. He had the memory of an elephant. But then I realized, i survived the cult. I made it out. So I laughed with them to my survival.

Is it wrong that I wish all the SJWs who hate white men find one so beautiful he takes the SJW out of them, and then embarasses them a year on? It's only fitting.
 
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I guess this is a companion piece to the A&H thread from a few months back in which the author tried to shame gay men for not dating HIV positive men. In both cases, guys don’t want to voluntarily sign up to die slowly inside
Oh, it has a lot of companion pieces.

There are male troons who complain that lesbians won't date them; there are male troons who complain that straight men won't date them; there are female troons who complain that gay men won't date them; there are fat straight women who complain that hot guys won't date them; there are fat gay men who complain that other gay men won't date them; there are non-binary/gender non-conforming people who complain that nobody will date them.

In each case, you have people who have made themselves physically repulsive through their own habits and decisions, yet they believe they are entitled to sex, love, and adoration from attractive people of their choice, and for any of the objects of their desires to say, "Nah, I don't want that," is "violence," "transphobia," or "fatphobia."

Now, while "woke" women aren't all physically repulsive, their personalities are just as shit as the fatties, troons, and genderspecials I've mentioned above, and they have the same walloping sense of entitlement. They're repellent because of who they are and who they have allowed themselves to become, ostensibly in the name of fairness, equity, and justice.

So of course they're going to screech when men--especially successful, white, cis men--who, they believe ought to check their privilege and learn their place, say, "No" to them. That they're joyless, humorless, critical, and constantly on the lookout for any evidence of wrongthink so they can chastize the offender isn't the problem; no, it's the men who recognize just how malignant that shit is, and who refuse to allow themselves to be beaten down by it.

Genuinely "woke" men are every bit as horrible, btw. They're self-hating, because they're cis men (and usually white), yet they also possess all the arrogance of someone who believes he's on "the right side of history." There are a lot fewer of them, however, so they can much more easily get dates with woke women just by attending yoga classes or book clubs, or volunteering for various woke causes. I see plenty of very poor specimens of masculinity in my über-liberal bubble-city who have nonetheless managed to marry and reproduce with like-minded women because they proved themselves safe and ideologically acceptable.
 
That's one big C O P E article. Lady, learn to code.
Funny you should mention learn to code, I briefly dated a coworker last year who was a developer. Well she left in November for another coder job and I just learned yesterday that she's paying students $10/hr to do her work for her. She was quite woke and addicted to adderall for context, so so much for learn to code.
 
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