Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

I imagine you aren’t going to get much of a reception here, trying to dig into Judd’s current situation. We are here to point, or laugh - or point and laugh - at the antics of our favorite munchies. Judd isn’t a munchie, he isn’t even married to a munchie anymore, so any discussion of him is irrelevant for this thread.

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You joined KF about an hour ago. Maybe take some time and peruse the forum a bit to get a feel for the personality of the site as a whole and the different forums/threads individually before asking the community to change.

Obviously I tried, no joy. Not much point in being snarky, just ignore the comment if you have nothing productive to say. If someone has that info, great, if not just stay out of it no?
 
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He moved on, do the same.
nice, y'all.

I imagine you aren’t going to get much of a reception here, trying to dig into Judd’s current situation. We are here to point, or laugh - or point and laugh - at the antics of our favorite munchies. Judd isn’t a munchie, he isn’t even married to a munchie anymore, so any discussion of him is irrelevant for this thread.

Edited for typos.
Edited to prevent double post:

You joined KF about an hour ago. Maybe take some time and peruse the forum a bit to get a feel for the personality of the site as a whole and the different forums/threads individually before asking the community to change.
Thanks for the advice, I'm doing that and realising I probably shouldn't have joined. However I find some posts really funny so I'm in two minds. Well thanks anyway for all the "autistic" and "dumb" reactions, would not have expected anything less 🐓🐓
 
Thanks for the advice, I'm doing that and realising I probably shouldn't have joined. However I find some posts really funny so I'm in two minds. Well thanks anyway for all the "autistic" and "dumb" reactions, would not have expected anything less 🐓🐓
No one cares and don't double post
 
Thanks for the advice, I'm doing that and realising I probably shouldn't have joined. However I find some posts really funny so I'm in two minds. Well thanks anyway for all the "autistic" and "dumb" reactions, would not have expected anything less 🐓🐓

Let the dead stay dead, leave Judd alone nobody wants or need to mil.k him and stop double posting. Continue to lurk more.
 
On another note, looks like Ally Quirk aka tubefedtraveler is regretting the hole she's dug for herself.

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I wonder if she's even aware that she's on Kiwi Farms?
 
The internet is forever. Most people would think twice about posting a picture of yourself mid sex with bile leaking onto your bedsheets next to your full name.

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As of right now, you can still find all her social media including images like this by googling Ally Quirk.
No this is all Reddit's fault!
 
The internet is forever. Most people would think twice about posting a picture of yourself mid sex with bile leaking onto your bedsheets next to your full name.

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As of right now, you can still find all her social media including images like this by googling Ally Quirk.

Fucking Classy

Remember what mom saids. “Anything you put on the internet is permeant”
 
Fucking Classy

Remember what mom saids. “Anything you put on the internet is permeant”
My mom never said that. Of course, she did say 'If you're going to do something fucking stupid, make sure people don't know it's you, or they find it funny' so it ends up being the same thing.

Seriously, if you don't want your boss to know, maybe don't attach your name to shit like that. It really shouldn't be that hard to make a sanitary 'look at me being all nice and a good employee' accounts on social media and have your attention whoring account be something else. That's the issue though; they wanted attention. And now they're complaining they're getting attention.
 
Fucking Classy

Remember what mom saids. “Anything you put on the internet is permeant”

Well, I'm glad my parents were weird conspiracy theorists and told me about the importance of internet anonymity at least.

This is going to become an increasing problem for younger generations since everyone on IG and FB uses their real names and doesn't think about what they post. Munchies seem to love trying to enter the medical field. Medical jobs also have very, very strict rules about your social media presence.

If you display a past history of some kind of pathological toob attraction and post #believespoonies and #medicalnegligence, you'll just get passed over for someone who won't shortly turn into a PR nightmare.
 
Fucking Classy

Remember what mom saids. “Anything you put on the internet is permeant”
Fucking Classy

Remember what mom saids. “Anything you put on the internet is permeant”

mine said " Dont spit up in the air cuz it gonna come back down on you and hit you in the face. "

Looks like tubefedtravler has spent a long time spitting in the air and is about to have it all come back to her. Congrats to her on making herself unemployable. Besides her nasty , naked ,leaky tube pic she also has a long history of feigning illness. No employer wants an employee who gets sick frequently and misses days, nor do they want a drama queen or someone who will get injured at work and then sue them.

She can blame reddit or whoever she wants but all of it comes from her as the original source. Nobody could make threads about her without her posting such ott stuff.
Its also possible that she will be unable to get disability because she is obviously very capable of traveling, driving, caring for herself, climbing trees, etc.
 
mine said " Dont spit up in the air cuz it gonna come back down on you and hit you in the face. "

Looks like tubefedtravler has spent a long time spitting in the air and is about to have it all come back to her. Congrats to her on making herself unemployable. Besides her nasty , naked ,leaky tube pic she also has a long history of feigning illness. No employer wants an employee who gets sick frequently and misses days, nor do they want a drama queen or someone who will get injured at work and then sue them.

She can blame reddit or whoever she wants but all of it comes from her as the original source. Nobody could make threads about her without her posting such ott stuff.
Its also possible that she will be unable to get disability because she is obviously very capable of traveling, driving, caring for herself, climbing trees, etc.
None of the munch bunch can take responsibility for their actions. Any time those actions have consequences it's always everyone else's fault.
 
His pseudoseizure starts with his head very close to the padded bed rail and then he moves his head to a more central position on the bed so he doesn't bang it on anything. Actual seizure patients are incapable of doing this and just start playing bumper cars with the bed rails and their heads, which is why the ones in neuro are padded.

Pseudoseizures cause a lot of arguments in the medical community though. They don't show up on EEGs, patients remain conscious throughout and they seem to have control over when they begin and end. Which means they're much less dangerous than actual seizures. Nobody fakes a seizure while they're driving but they'll start screaming and jiving like they're in the goth club as soon as they come to the emergency department. It's a psych issue, not a neuro one.

e: also I may have posted this before but

Would they use this on a patient that looks like they are faking a tonic clonic? I'm wondering if they would ever use it on a patient with less typical seizures where the patient is still aware but can't control their movements.
 
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Ah well, I lost the Paige deathpool, but I return to the internet with gifts. People on IFGW found Paige's mom's account on a support group for parents of eating disordered children. At the start she is is hemming between Paige being controlled by her eating disorder and being convinced her daughter wants to eat but can't because of physical problems. Eventually becomes convinced that Paige has recovered from her ED and is suffering lifelong severe consequences of it. Slowly realizes Paige is making herself sick, that she abuses her medications and refuses physio or to keep up on her hygiene. Ends with her flat-out saying Paige has munchausen and she has cut all ties with her because Paige made false abuse claims against her. Miserable little cunt she is.

Warning, hearing this shit from her mom's perspective is kinda fucking heartbreaking. Parents did everything to help her and she shat all over their efforts. By the time mom started posting Paige had already been IP 8 times, tried to kill herself in front of her siblings, was unable to attend school, had thrown most hopes of a future out, and was living in a residential treatment facility that was apparently unable to force her to do anything to keep herself alive, therefore requiring her parents to have weekly battles to get her stabilized at a hospital.

While we have no specific proof this is her (as in, she never posts a photo or anything definitive), she makes friends on the forum that she meets IRL, and she and they sometimes slip up and refer to Paige by her name. That plus all of the details aligning with what Paige posts is enough to convince me.
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First post she made in 2015, when Paige was 16, almost 17, detailing how resistant Paige was while in ED treatment. She's in residential and keeps sabotaging her progress. Mom is miserable, sometimes suicidal, and every time she gets Paige placed somewhere she has a miracle recovery until she gets discharged to do it all over. Mom has endometriosis and needs surgery but her whole life is devoted to making Paige stop killing herself. Paige takes advantage of mom being unable to physically stop her. The other two children have developmental/processing disorders and their own therapies take a backseat to Paige's constant screeching. Dad works and Paige tries to talk him into retrieving/discharging her occasionally.
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At home, Paige won't even drink water. (Mom explains over many posts that Paige is considered a "super refuser" and that at her worst she won't even swallow her own saliva, and that she secretly exercises whenever people aren't watching her.) Paige doesn't give a shit about consequences and knows how to manipulate everyone around her. [LSUYE = life stops until you eat] At residential, she's tube fed but still keeping herself sick. Parents have seemingly resigned themselves to the fact that she's never going to get better.
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Paige gets sectioned when she starts self harming and giving herself infections
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On Insta paige occasionally writes about how her numerous injuries as a teen were signs she had EDS. Mom explains the same injuries as artifacts of overexercise and throwing herself around. No weight gain despite being tubed.
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Paige has been attending school outside of her residential on a very limited basis just to have a social life, but upon hitting 17 (which is apparently the age for medical consent in NZ) decides she's leaving residential, leaving school, and getting into a pastry chef course. Parents use the baking course as leverage - you eat or you don't go.
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After her parents get her to eat food, Paige matter-of-factly tells them she's now a binge-purge anorexic so their efforts meant nothing. Purging has never been discussed by her team before.
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Paige finds out she has a hereditary disposition towards heart issues; is furious when the doctors tell her that's not the reason she's sick. Paige decides to starve and dehydrate herself until she gives herself heart problems.
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Despite just admitting to purging, Paige now claims the vomiting is not her fault
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Back in hospital (for "gastroenteritis"), Paige is offended that she's on 24 hour watch and that includes following her to the bathroom, and that the doctors are ignoring her gastro complaints and treat her for her ED instead. Cries to mummy until the watch is lifted. Purges in the shower and gets caught anyway. Mom keeps her at the hospital even after realizing this is just more ED bullshit because at least she's not the one having to watch her.
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Has a gastroscopy. Nothing is wrong. Paige is claiming her anorexia magically fucked off and now she's got only physical issues. Mom is skeptical to say the least. Paige uses this to divide her parents, with her dad saying to stop engaging with the mom because he believes her. Mom entertains the idea that it's gastroparesis based on what other posters say. Paige latches onto this and ends all treatment except those that might net her a GP diagnosis. Mom pretends to believe her in order to get her back on NG feeds, hopefully NJ feeds she can't purge. Tactic works and Paige agrees to a tube to keep her "gastroparesis" story intact
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Annndd within two weeks she's sabotaged it and ended up back in the hospital with critically low potassium. Still claiming she no longer has an ED. Claims she vomits up her tube but just replaces it and carries on. Mom is now demanding NJ feeds.
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Rediagnosed with a somatic disorder. Sure, jan. Doctors no longer believe her and tell her to just fucking eat.
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Someone tries to get mom to see that her daughter is still purging, mom has a mild chimpout
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Doctors will do no more testing, nurses don't want her in a wheelchair, mom does not understand. Paige is compliant with everything.
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Mom still doubts this is actually recovery and calls Paige's version of events alternate reality. But still seeking testing and trying to get her into an intestinal failure center (they reject her as they only handle cases on TPN)
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They get her into an observation on the children and family unit. Miraculously, with someone watching her 100% of the time, she gains. Mom is now half-convinced her gastro problems are real because she threw up her tube in front of nurses, etc. Dad hates having her at the hospital. Paige is in her element. Mom is happy to have a break from Paige. But Paige turns 18 and officially ages out of this service, too. Doctors declare her cured of her anorexia, and she gets a wig for her hair loss. Mom is 100% over Paige using her anorexia as an excuse to do nothing with her life.
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Paige has an X-ray that shows gastric emptying problems (?) but doctors attribute it to an infection she picked up at the hospital. Note: mom has been asking for a GES by name so I don't think that's what Paige had here.
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Paige tanks her potassium, mom now convinced it's bulimia. Sometimes. Paige pukes on the doctor and still gets discharged. Mom thinks that, in particular, is not voluntarily because she would never~ Mom wants Paige out of her house because Paige constantly demands more "stuff" and more attention and resents anything the other kids get.
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Another gastro - another bulimia DX
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Another gastro - this one gets his hackles up because they go in demanding an NJ and nothing less. Mom talks about scrubbing vomit off the walls of her house. Doctor ultimately says NJ tube won't make a difference.
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2016 ends on a happy-ish note when Paige "graduates" the high school she barely attended. Parents see all the other kids graduate and reflect on the might-have-beens and how Paige's nonsense affects their other children, but are also happy she seems to finally be moving forward with life and will be attending her pastry course.
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In January, Mom announces that Paige really did have the gastroparesis (but that she's staying on NG tube feeding and later a PEG tube if necessary. Paige is eating and drinking, attending her culinary program, and no longer exercising. Mom is now fully convinced all of Paige's problems are real and after-effects of her ED.
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The other shoe drops. Mom starts a new thread (first in over a year) to talk about how shit life is. Paige's stomach and intestines no longer work but the hospital will won't NJ tube her. Keep telling her shit will improve if Paige eats and doesn't purge. Paige plays on their emotions because she is soooo scaaared now.
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Paige convinces mom she's really for real dying. Mom buys a wheelchair and writes paige's eulogy (!!!)
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Late 2017, Paige gets approved for the Sad Walrus Tube Combo. On realizing that the NJ tube will prevent her from purging everything, Paige admits it was all a lie for attention but mom, now convinced Paige is really sick, dismisses this.
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NJ tube in but NG removed, Paige starts "blacking out"
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Within a few weeks Paige dislodges her new NJ tube (incidentally while her friend who has an ED is staying over, what are the odds!)
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When it's replaced, mom says the doc pierced her septum and threaded it through both nostrils. I'm guessing they actually bridled her because I've never heard of them just straight up doing that but hell, maybe. Paige tries to ruin a family vacation.
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Mom's beloved dog dies on her birthday and her bother is sickened by his classmates. Paige gets annoyed at the fact that the attention is not on her and pukes up her NJ tube then comes in with it dangling out of her mouth. Paige's doctors give her permission to insert her own NGs from now on. Mom is aware Paige is still eating/drinking things that make her sick and refusing to change her diet but thinks it's just her being stubborn and 19. This is about where Paige's current IG starts.
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Paige's real "health problems" begin in Feb 2018 with cellulitis and seizures, now that she can't just keep starving herself for mummy's attention.
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Paige moves out with a friend - mom is happy-ish.
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April 2018, Paige is diagnosed with epilepsy. Comes home for a visit and family find she's abusing her medications including morphine. After much arguing, Paige moves home. There's much to do about the morphine dose which is reduced from 10 mL every 4 hours to 4 every 6 despite paige's screeching.
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And in August, mom says that the mystery casts were, in fact, to keep paige from infecting her lines after she fucked with her PICC.
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Mom takes some of the blame for being complicit and "advocating" for Paige all the time
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Paige gets a case of the pukies whenever they try to raise her feed rate. Mom chimps out, hospital tries to section Paige, mom chimps out even more. Hospital tries legal proceedings under the apparent assumption that Mom is mbping Paige.
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Mom realizes Paige is sabotaging her own care for attention. Hospital gets her under 24/7 watch.
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Paige won't let anyone clean her, makes mom do the job. Mom realizes this total lack of hygiene is why Paige always has UTIs and various infections. Mom takes time off of being Paige's whipping boy to deal with her own health. Paige has a meltdown and cuts off all contact with them. Mom happy.
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Mom finally cuts Paige off entirely when Paige lies in court about her upbringing being abusive
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And here it is. Under 24/7 obs, Paige gains weight. With her ability to handle her own meds taken away, her potassium stops crashing. Mom realizes she has "anorexia with a healthy side of munchausen" and when Paige admit that this was all for attention back in 2017 she was, in fact, telling the truth for once. Father and middle daughter still believe Paige and it's ripping the family apart.
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Paige tries to sweet talk her way back into the family - family realizes it's because she's left stashes of opiates at their house and she has become a drug seeker. Dad still wants to be part of her life. Mom does not.
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Her last post, just a month ago. Paige came back into their lives and immediately fucked up. Mom realizes she's happy being sick, that being sick is what gives her life purpose, and she has munchausens. She decides to no longer post on an ED recovery website as her daughter's weight is restored and stable but it's made no difference, and so she cut her out of her life.
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So there it is from the horse's mouth. Paige has munchausen, her family and her doctors know it, the casts were to keep her from fucking with her lines, and they're leaving her to die because she doesn't want to live. Wow, what a ride.
 
Ah well, I lost the Paige deathpool, but I return to the internet with gifts. People on IFGW found Paige's mom's account on a support group for parents of eating disordered children. At the start she is is hemming between Paige being controlled by her eating disorder and being convinced her daughter wants to eat but can't because of physical problems. Eventually becomes convinced that Paige has recovered from her ED and is suffering lifelong severe consequences of it. Slowly realizes Paige is making herself sick, that she abuses her medications and refuses physio or to keep up on her hygiene. Ends with her flat-out saying Paige has munchausen and she has cut all ties with her because Paige made false abuse claims against her. Miserable little cunt she is.

Warning, hearing this shit from her mom's perspective is kinda fucking heartbreaking. Parents did everything to help her and she shat all over their efforts. By the time mom started posting Paige had already been IP 8 times, tried to kill herself in front of her siblings, was unable to attend school, had thrown most hopes of a future out, and was living in a residential treatment facility that was apparently unable to force her to do anything to keep herself alive, therefore requiring her parents to have weekly battles to get her stabilized at a hospital.

While we have no specific proof this is her (as in, she never posts a photo or anything definitive), she makes friends on the forum that she meets IRL, and she and they sometimes slip up and refer to Paige by her name. That plus all of the details aligning with what Paige posts is enough to convince me.
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First post she made in 2015, when Paige was 16, almost 17, detailing how resistant Paige was while in ED treatment. She's in residential and keeps sabotaging her progress. Mom is miserable, sometimes suicidal, and every time she gets Paige placed somewhere she has a miracle recovery until she gets discharged to do it all over. Mom has endometriosis and needs surgery but her whole life is devoted to making Paige stop killing herself. Paige takes advantage of mom being unable to physically stop her. The other two children have developmental/processing disorders and their own therapies take a backseat to Paige's constant screeching. Dad works and Paige tries to talk him into retrieving/discharging her occasionally.
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At home, Paige won't even drink water. (Mom explains over many posts that Paige is considered a "super refuser" and that at her worst she won't even swallow her own saliva, and that she secretly exercises whenever people aren't watching her.) Paige doesn't give a shit about consequences and knows how to manipulate everyone around her. [LSUYE = life stops until you eat] At residential, she's tube fed but still keeping herself sick. Parents have seemingly resigned themselves to the fact that she's never going to get better.
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Paige gets sectioned when she starts self harming and giving herself infections
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On Insta paige occasionally writes about how her numerous injuries as a teen were signs she had EDS. Mom explains the same injuries as artifacts of overexercise and throwing herself around. No weight gain despite being tubed.
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Paige has been attending school outside of her residential on a very limited basis just to have a social life, but upon hitting 17 (which is apparently the age for medical consent in NZ) decides she's leaving residential, leaving school, and getting into a pastry chef course. Parents use the baking course as leverage - you eat or you don't go.
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After her parents get her to eat food, Paige matter-of-factly tells them she's now a binge-purge anorexic so their efforts meant nothing. Purging has never been discussed by her team before.
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Paige finds out she has a hereditary disposition towards heart issues; is furious when the doctors tell her that's not the reason she's sick. Paige decides to starve and dehydrate herself until she gives herself heart problems.
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Despite just admitting to purging, Paige now claims the vomiting is not her fault
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Back in hospital (for "gastroenteritis"), Paige is offended that she's on 24 hour watch and that includes following her to the bathroom, and that the doctors are ignoring her gastro complaints and treat her for her ED instead. Cries to mummy until the watch is lifted. Purges in the shower and gets caught anyway. Mom keeps her at the hospital even after realizing this is just more ED bullshit because at least she's not the one having to watch her.
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Has a gastroscopy. Nothing is wrong. Paige is claiming her anorexia magically fucked off and now she's got only physical issues. Mom is skeptical to say the least. Paige uses this to divide her parents, with her dad saying to stop engaging with the mom because he believes her. Mom entertains the idea that it's gastroparesis based on what other posters say. Paige latches onto this and ends all treatment except those that might net her a GP diagnosis. Mom pretends to believe her in order to get her back on NG feeds, hopefully NJ feeds she can't purge. Tactic works and Paige agrees to a tube to keep her "gastroparesis" story intact
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Annndd within two weeks she's sabotaged it and ended up back in the hospital with critically low potassium. Still claiming she no longer has an ED. Claims she vomits up her tube but just replaces it and carries on. Mom is now demanding NJ feeds.
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Rediagnosed with a somatic disorder. Sure, jan. Doctors no longer believe her and tell her to just fucking eat.
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Someone tries to get mom to see that her daughter is still purging, mom has a mild chimpout
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Doctors will do no more testing, nurses don't want her in a wheelchair, mom does not understand. Paige is compliant with everything.
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Mom still doubts this is actually recovery and calls Paige's version of events alternate reality. But still seeking testing and trying to get her into an intestinal failure center (they reject her as they only handle cases on TPN)
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They get her into an observation on the children and family unit. Miraculously, with someone watching her 100% of the time, she gains. Mom is now half-convinced her gastro problems are real because she threw up her tube in front of nurses, etc. Dad hates having her at the hospital. Paige is in her element. Mom is happy to have a break from Paige. But Paige turns 18 and officially ages out of this service, too. Doctors declare her cured of her anorexia, and she gets a wig for her hair loss. Mom is 100% over Paige using her anorexia as an excuse to do nothing with her life.
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Paige has an X-ray that shows gastric emptying problems (?) but doctors attribute it to an infection she picked up at the hospital. Note: mom has been asking for a GES by name so I don't think that's what Paige had here.
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Paige tanks her potassium, mom now convinced it's bulimia. Sometimes. Paige pukes on the doctor and still gets discharged. Mom thinks that, in particular, is not voluntarily because she would never~ Mom wants Paige out of her house because Paige constantly demands more "stuff" and more attention and resents anything the other kids get.
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Another gastro - another bulimia DX
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Another gastro - this one gets his hackles up because they go in demanding an NJ and nothing less. Mom talks about scrubbing vomit off the walls of her house. Doctor ultimately says NJ tube won't make a difference.
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2016 ends on a happy-ish note when Paige "graduates" the high school she barely attended. Parents see all the other kids graduate and reflect on the might-have-beens and how Paige's nonsense affects their other children, but are also happy she seems to finally be moving forward with life and will be attending her pastry course.
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In January, Mom announces that Paige really did have the gastroparesis (but that she's staying on NG tube feeding and later a PEG tube if necessary. Paige is eating and drinking, attending her culinary program, and no longer exercising. Mom is now fully convinced all of Paige's problems are real and after-effects of her ED.
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The other shoe drops. Mom starts a new thread (first in over a year) to talk about how shit life is. Paige's stomach and intestines no longer work but the hospital will won't NJ tube her. Keep telling her shit will improve if Paige eats and doesn't purge. Paige plays on their emotions because she is soooo scaaared now.
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Paige convinces mom she's really for real dying. Mom buys a wheelchair and writes paige's eulogy (!!!)
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Late 2017, Paige gets approved for the Sad Walrus Tube Combo. On realizing that the NJ tube will prevent her from purging everything, Paige admits it was all a lie for attention but mom, now convinced Paige is really sick, dismisses this.
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NJ tube in but NG removed, Paige starts "blacking out"
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Within a few weeks Paige dislodges her new NJ tube (incidentally while her friend who has an ED is staying over, what are the odds!)
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When it's replaced, mom says the doc pierced her septum and threaded it through both nostrils. I'm guessing they actually bridled her because I've never heard of them just straight up doing that but hell, maybe. Paige tries to ruin a family vacation.
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Mom's beloved dog dies on her birthday and her bother is sickened by his classmates. Paige gets annoyed at the fact that the attention is not on her and pukes up her NJ tube then comes in with it dangling out of her mouth. Paige's doctors give her permission to insert her own NGs from now on. Mom is aware Paige is still eating/drinking things that make her sick and refusing to change her diet but thinks it's just her being stubborn and 19. This is about where Paige's current IG starts.
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Paige's real "health problems" begin in Feb 2018 with cellulitis and seizures, now that she can't just keep starving herself for mummy's attention.
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Paige moves out with a friend - mom is happy-ish.
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April 2018, Paige is diagnosed with epilepsy. Comes home for a visit and family find she's abusing her medications including morphine. After much arguing, Paige moves home. There's much to do about the morphine dose which is reduced from 10 mL every 4 hours to 4 every 6 despite paige's screeching.
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And in August, mom says that the mystery casts were, in fact, to keep paige from infecting her lines after she fucked with her PICC.
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Mom takes some of the blame for being complicit and "advocating" for Paige all the time
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Paige gets a case of the pukies whenever they try to raise her feed rate. Mom chimps out, hospital tries to section Paige, mom chimps out even more. Hospital tries legal proceedings under the apparent assumption that Mom is mbping Paige.
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Mom realizes Paige is sabotaging her own care for attention. Hospital gets her under 24/7 watch.
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Paige won't let anyone clean her, makes mom do the job. Mom realizes this total lack of hygiene is why Paige always has UTIs and various infections. Mom takes time off of being Paige's whipping boy to deal with her own health. Paige has a meltdown and cuts off all contact with them. Mom happy.
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Mom finally cuts Paige off entirely when Paige lies in court about her upbringing being abusive
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And here it is. Under 24/7 obs, Paige gains weight. With her ability to handle her own meds taken away, her potassium stops crashing. Mom realizes she has "anorexia with a healthy side of munchausen" and when Paige admit that this was all for attention back in 2017 she was, in fact, telling the truth for once. Father and middle daughter still believe Paige and it's ripping the family apart.
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Paige tries to sweet talk her way back into the family - family realizes it's because she's left stashes of opiates at their house and she has become a drug seeker. Dad still wants to be part of her life. Mom does not.
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Her last post, just a month ago. Paige came back into their lives and immediately fucked up. Mom realizes she's happy being sick, that being sick is what gives her life purpose, and she has munchausens. She decides to no longer post on an ED recovery website as her daughter's weight is restored and stable but it's made no difference, and so she cut her out of her life.
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So there it is from the horse's mouth. Paige has munchausen, her family and her doctors know it, the casts were to keep her from fucking with her lines, and they're leaving her to die because she doesn't want to live. Wow, what a ride.


:semperfi: as usual .

Holy shit, that's a ride alright....3rd class tickets on the Titanic.

How the hell does a life go so spectacularly wrong and beyond fucked up?
 
Ah well, I lost the Paige deathpool, but I return to the internet with gifts. People on IFGW found Paige's mom's account on a support group for parents of eating disordered children. At the start she is is hemming between Paige being controlled by her eating disorder and being convinced her daughter wants to eat but can't because of physical problems. Eventually becomes convinced that Paige has recovered from her ED and is suffering lifelong severe consequences of it. Slowly realizes Paige is making herself sick, that she abuses her medications and refuses physio or to keep up on her hygiene. Ends with her flat-out saying Paige has munchausen and she has cut all ties with her because Paige made false abuse claims against her. Miserable little cunt she is.

Warning, hearing this shit from her mom's perspective is kinda fucking heartbreaking. Parents did everything to help her and she shat all over their efforts. By the time mom started posting Paige had already been IP 8 times, tried to kill herself in front of her siblings, was unable to attend school, had thrown most hopes of a future out, and was living in a residential treatment facility that was apparently unable to force her to do anything to keep herself alive, therefore requiring her parents to have weekly battles to get her stabilized at a hospital.

While we have no specific proof this is her (as in, she never posts a photo or anything definitive), she makes friends on the forum that she meets IRL, and she and they sometimes slip up and refer to Paige by her name. That plus all of the details aligning with what Paige posts is enough to convince me.
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First post she made in 2015, when Paige was 16, almost 17, detailing how resistant Paige was while in ED treatment. She's in residential and keeps sabotaging her progress. Mom is miserable, sometimes suicidal, and every time she gets Paige placed somewhere she has a miracle recovery until she gets discharged to do it all over. Mom has endometriosis and needs surgery but her whole life is devoted to making Paige stop killing herself. Paige takes advantage of mom being unable to physically stop her. The other two children have developmental/processing disorders and their own therapies take a backseat to Paige's constant screeching. Dad works and Paige tries to talk him into retrieving/discharging her occasionally.
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At home, Paige won't even drink water. (Mom explains over many posts that Paige is considered a "super refuser" and that at her worst she won't even swallow her own saliva, and that she secretly exercises whenever people aren't watching her.) Paige doesn't give a shit about consequences and knows how to manipulate everyone around her. [LSUYE = life stops until you eat] At residential, she's tube fed but still keeping herself sick. Parents have seemingly resigned themselves to the fact that she's never going to get better.
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Paige gets sectioned when she starts self harming and giving herself infections
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On Insta paige occasionally writes about how her numerous injuries as a teen were signs she had EDS. Mom explains the same injuries as artifacts of overexercise and throwing herself around. No weight gain despite being tubed.
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Paige has been attending school outside of her residential on a very limited basis just to have a social life, but upon hitting 17 (which is apparently the age for medical consent in NZ) decides she's leaving residential, leaving school, and getting into a pastry chef course. Parents use the baking course as leverage - you eat or you don't go.
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After her parents get her to eat food, Paige matter-of-factly tells them she's now a binge-purge anorexic so their efforts meant nothing. Purging has never been discussed by her team before.
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Paige finds out she has a hereditary disposition towards heart issues; is furious when the doctors tell her that's not the reason she's sick. Paige decides to starve and dehydrate herself until she gives herself heart problems.
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Despite just admitting to purging, Paige now claims the vomiting is not her fault
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Back in hospital (for "gastroenteritis"), Paige is offended that she's on 24 hour watch and that includes following her to the bathroom, and that the doctors are ignoring her gastro complaints and treat her for her ED instead. Cries to mummy until the watch is lifted. Purges in the shower and gets caught anyway. Mom keeps her at the hospital even after realizing this is just more ED bullshit because at least she's not the one having to watch her.
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Has a gastroscopy. Nothing is wrong. Paige is claiming her anorexia magically fucked off and now she's got only physical issues. Mom is skeptical to say the least. Paige uses this to divide her parents, with her dad saying to stop engaging with the mom because he believes her. Mom entertains the idea that it's gastroparesis based on what other posters say. Paige latches onto this and ends all treatment except those that might net her a GP diagnosis. Mom pretends to believe her in order to get her back on NG feeds, hopefully NJ feeds she can't purge. Tactic works and Paige agrees to a tube to keep her "gastroparesis" story intact
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Annndd within two weeks she's sabotaged it and ended up back in the hospital with critically low potassium. Still claiming she no longer has an ED. Claims she vomits up her tube but just replaces it and carries on. Mom is now demanding NJ feeds.
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Rediagnosed with a somatic disorder. Sure, jan. Doctors no longer believe her and tell her to just fucking eat.
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Someone tries to get mom to see that her daughter is still purging, mom has a mild chimpout
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Doctors will do no more testing, nurses don't want her in a wheelchair, mom does not understand. Paige is compliant with everything.
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Mom still doubts this is actually recovery and calls Paige's version of events alternate reality. But still seeking testing and trying to get her into an intestinal failure center (they reject her as they only handle cases on TPN)
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They get her into an observation on the children and family unit. Miraculously, with someone watching her 100% of the time, she gains. Mom is now half-convinced her gastro problems are real because she threw up her tube in front of nurses, etc. Dad hates having her at the hospital. Paige is in her element. Mom is happy to have a break from Paige. But Paige turns 18 and officially ages out of this service, too. Doctors declare her cured of her anorexia, and she gets a wig for her hair loss. Mom is 100% over Paige using her anorexia as an excuse to do nothing with her life.
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Paige has an X-ray that shows gastric emptying problems (?) but doctors attribute it to an infection she picked up at the hospital. Note: mom has been asking for a GES by name so I don't think that's what Paige had here.
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Paige tanks her potassium, mom now convinced it's bulimia. Sometimes. Paige pukes on the doctor and still gets discharged. Mom thinks that, in particular, is not voluntarily because she would never~ Mom wants Paige out of her house because Paige constantly demands more "stuff" and more attention and resents anything the other kids get.
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Another gastro - another bulimia DX
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Another gastro - this one gets his hackles up because they go in demanding an NJ and nothing less. Mom talks about scrubbing vomit off the walls of her house. Doctor ultimately says NJ tube won't make a difference.
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2016 ends on a happy-ish note when Paige "graduates" the high school she barely attended. Parents see all the other kids graduate and reflect on the might-have-beens and how Paige's nonsense affects their other children, but are also happy she seems to finally be moving forward with life and will be attending her pastry course.
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In January, Mom announces that Paige really did have the gastroparesis (but that she's staying on NG tube feeding and later a PEG tube if necessary. Paige is eating and drinking, attending her culinary program, and no longer exercising. Mom is now fully convinced all of Paige's problems are real and after-effects of her ED.
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The other shoe drops. Mom starts a new thread (first in over a year) to talk about how shit life is. Paige's stomach and intestines no longer work but the hospital will won't NJ tube her. Keep telling her shit will improve if Paige eats and doesn't purge. Paige plays on their emotions because she is soooo scaaared now.
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Paige convinces mom she's really for real dying. Mom buys a wheelchair and writes paige's eulogy (!!!)
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Late 2017, Paige gets approved for the Sad Walrus Tube Combo. On realizing that the NJ tube will prevent her from purging everything, Paige admits it was all a lie for attention but mom, now convinced Paige is really sick, dismisses this.
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NJ tube in but NG removed, Paige starts "blacking out"
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Within a few weeks Paige dislodges her new NJ tube (incidentally while her friend who has an ED is staying over, what are the odds!)
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When it's replaced, mom says the doc pierced her septum and threaded it through both nostrils. I'm guessing they actually bridled her because I've never heard of them just straight up doing that but hell, maybe. Paige tries to ruin a family vacation.
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Mom's beloved dog dies on her birthday and her bother is sickened by his classmates. Paige gets annoyed at the fact that the attention is not on her and pukes up her NJ tube then comes in with it dangling out of her mouth. Paige's doctors give her permission to insert her own NGs from now on. Mom is aware Paige is still eating/drinking things that make her sick and refusing to change her diet but thinks it's just her being stubborn and 19. This is about where Paige's current IG starts.
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Paige's real "health problems" begin in Feb 2018 with cellulitis and seizures, now that she can't just keep starving herself for mummy's attention.
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Paige moves out with a friend - mom is happy-ish.
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April 2018, Paige is diagnosed with epilepsy. Comes home for a visit and family find she's abusing her medications including morphine. After much arguing, Paige moves home. There's much to do about the morphine dose which is reduced from 10 mL every 4 hours to 4 every 6 despite paige's screeching.
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And in August, mom says that the mystery casts were, in fact, to keep paige from infecting her lines after she fucked with her PICC.
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Mom takes some of the blame for being complicit and "advocating" for Paige all the time
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Paige gets a case of the pukies whenever they try to raise her feed rate. Mom chimps out, hospital tries to section Paige, mom chimps out even more. Hospital tries legal proceedings under the apparent assumption that Mom is mbping Paige.
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Mom realizes Paige is sabotaging her own care for attention. Hospital gets her under 24/7 watch.
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Paige won't let anyone clean her, makes mom do the job. Mom realizes this total lack of hygiene is why Paige always has UTIs and various infections. Mom takes time off of being Paige's whipping boy to deal with her own health. Paige has a meltdown and cuts off all contact with them. Mom happy.
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Mom finally cuts Paige off entirely when Paige lies in court about her upbringing being abusive
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And here it is. Under 24/7 obs, Paige gains weight. With her ability to handle her own meds taken away, her potassium stops crashing. Mom realizes she has "anorexia with a healthy side of munchausen" and when Paige admit that this was all for attention back in 2017 she was, in fact, telling the truth for once. Father and middle daughter still believe Paige and it's ripping the family apart.
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Paige tries to sweet talk her way back into the family - family realizes it's because she's left stashes of opiates at their house and she has become a drug seeker. Dad still wants to be part of her life. Mom does not.
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Her last post, just a month ago. Paige came back into their lives and immediately fucked up. Mom realizes she's happy being sick, that being sick is what gives her life purpose, and she has munchausens. She decides to no longer post on an ED recovery website as her daughter's weight is restored and stable but it's made no difference, and so she cut her out of her life.
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So there it is from the horse's mouth. Paige has munchausen, her family and her doctors know it, the casts were to keep her from fucking with her lines, and they're leaving her to die because she doesn't want to live. Wow, what a ride.
That was very depressing to read from the moms point of view, it's amazing somebody found all of this.
 
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