Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[MadStan]

There are several critical factors that will unfold over the next 5 days:

1. The CDC or the WHO will confirm or revoke the chinese statement that 2019-nCov is infectious during the incubation. This is the most important aspect bar none; and either confirms we are in a real global threat or not.

2a. If it IS NOT infectious, then we have averted a major disaster and regular quarantine rules will apply and we will not see a genuine pandemic. We will probably see it as a technical pandemic, but not the "full Monty".

2b. If we see the CDC or WHO confirm China's statement that IT IS Infectious during the incubation then we will see this virus most certainly become a global pandemic and confirmation of such within a week. Why? Because it means for every confirmed case there are vast amounts of unknown cases wandering around the globe. They are not showing symptoms, but are spreading it.

3. If point 2b is true, then governments will have to instigate quarantine of people who show no symptoms and for every newly confirmed case this will be dozens of people that person has been in contact with or around. People don't like being locked up for 14 days with other people when they may actually not be sick - thus they most certainly will get sick. So people will stop self-reporting to avoid having themselves and their family members quarantined. This will be the same in every country.

4. Because of the late revelation of point 2b (if it is confirmed), some actions must be taken to social distance which will include restricted air travel and social events. This will impact the entire global economy quickly.

 

[don't tred on snek]

Between this and anthrax outbreaks in USSR, commies and biological weapons don't mix lol

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

There are several critical factors that will unfold over the next 5 days:

1. The CDC or the WHO will confirm or revoke the chinese statement that 2019-nCov is infectious during the incubation. This is the most important aspect bar none; and either confirms we are in a real global threat or not.

2a. If it IS NOT infectious, then we have averted a major disaster and regular quarantine rules will apply and we will not see a genuine pandemic. We will probably see it as a technical pandemic, but not the "full Monty".

2b. If we see the CDC or WHO confirm China's statement that IT IS Infectious during the incubation then we will see this virus most certainly become a global pandemic and confirmation of such within a week. Why? Because it means for every confirmed case there are vast amounts of unknown cases wandering around the globe. They are not showing symptoms, but are spreading it.

3. If point 2b is true, then governments will have to instigate quarantine of people who show no symptoms and for every newly confirmed case this will be dozens of people that person has been in contact with or around. People don't like being locked up for 14 days with other people when they may actually not be sick - thus they most certainly will get sick. So people will stop self-reporting to avoid having themselves and their family members quarantined. This will be the same in every country.

4. Because of the late revelation of point 2b (if it is confirmed), some actions must be taken to social distance which will include restricted air travel and social events. This will impact the entire global economy quickly.

Rated optimistic because nothing that will prevent the elites from getting their money will be done. As long as the top dogs aren't getting exposed, nothing will change.

 

[Tad Loaf]

2b. If we see the CDC or WHO confirm China's statement that IT IS Infectious during the incubation then we will see this virus most certainly become a global pandemic and confirmation of such within a week. Why? Because it means for every confirmed case there are vast amounts of unknown cases wandering around the globe. They are not showing symptoms, but are spreading it.

I understand there's probably lots of testing, paperwork and all that jazz in order to confirm this or not, but I really wish they'd pick up the pace. The sooner they announce it on mainstream news the sooner people will be taking it seriously. I've met several people in the last few days who are not only unaware of the possibility it's contangious for two weeks with no symptoms but don't even know it's hit the US yet. Obviously that's on them for being out of the loop morons, but unfortunately this is a situation in which we need to pander to those types a bit and blast the news in every outlet possible as much as possible.

 

[Overly Serious]

I understand there's probably lots of testing, paperwork and all that jazz in order to confirm this or not, but I really wish they'd pick up the pace. The sooner they announce it on mainstream news the sooner people will be taking it seriously. I've met several people in the last few days who are not only unaware of the possibility it's contangious for two weeks with no symptoms but don't even know it's hit the US yet. Obviously that's on them for being out of the loop morons, but unfortunately this is a situation in which we need to pander to those types a bit and blast the news in every outlet possible as much as possible.

I hear where you're coming from but I have no doubt they are working round the clock on this and they are the experts. We'd all like information sooner but I'm also reminded of Fukishima where politicians demanded the severity rating of the nuclear risk be set to maximum even though it didn't make the criteria, because the media was chastisting them for "not taking it seriously enough". Nobody died from radiation from the plant but quite a few elderly and infirm people died from being evacuated and being forced to live in temporary accommodation and separated from families. The worst thing right now would probably be false information.

In other news, family members aren't flying in a few days, they're flying right now. It's a long and dodgy flight with lots of red flag connects, including LHR which hasn't grounded Wuhan flights yet. If they get Corona, I'll livepost their suffering and subsequent deaths.

You are the most KiwiFarm of KiwiFarmers.

 

[Super Color Up]

Do you know what I hate more than epidemics? Journos.

http://archive.li/dIrzG

Without even fact-checking, they've already posted the message by our local disease control and testing centre, where they report a single case of coronavirus. WHICH IS NOT THE nCoV-2019 AND THEY ACTUALLY RESPONDED IN COMMENTS CONFIRMING THAT.

YET FUCKING JOURNOS ARE WILLING TO EARN SOME CLICKS ON HEADLINE THAT MAY GET HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS INTO PANIC MODE.

What can we really say? "News outlets" in the last decade have ramped up their alarmist tendencies to fanatical heights.

I guess you can call this a form of


Yellow journalism.

i'll see myself out

 

[Niggaplease]

Any new infection stats on the wu flu? Not that the sperging about wearing shoes in doors isn't amusing. But I'm trying to dig some more info up.

Btw at this rate if it gets worse set up a ppe protocol and make your garage a decontamination room.

 

[madethistocomment]

Considering getting a vogmask or something of the like for my mom if it gets widespread stateside. We live in the middle of BFE, but she's immunocompromised and I'm a worrywart.

 

[Cutlass Supreme]

Oh no...
Africa on alert for first case of Wuhan coronavirus

Spoiler

China / Society
Africa on alert for first case of Wuhan coronavirus

• Ivory Coast woman with flu-like symptoms under observation in isolation in West African country after arriving from Beijing on the weekend
• Various countries across the continent ramp up screening for the illness to prevent its spread

Topic | China coronavirus outbreak


Jevans Nyabiage
Published: 9:30pm, 27 Jan, 2020


Advertisement

African countries have stepped up screenings at border checkpoints to prevent the spread of
a pneumonia-like illness from China
as the continent waits to see if it has its first confirmed case of the coronavirus.
Eugène Aka Aouele, the Ivorian health minister, said on Sunday that a 34-year-old woman from the West African country had arrived in Abidjan from Beijing on Saturday with
flu-like symptoms including difficulty breathing, coughing, sneezing and a runny nose
.
The woman, a student who has lived in Beijing for five years, was in isolation, under medical observation and her condition was “satisfactory”, the health ministry said.
“There is a suspicion of a case of coronavirus pneumonia. The final diagnosis will be established after the results of the analysis of the samples taken,” Aouele said.
Several airlines, including Kenya Airways, Ethiopian Airlines, Air Algerie, EgyptAir and South African Airways, fly to Chinese cities. Chinese airlines such as China Southern Airlines and Chinese flag-carrier Air China also have routes to some African cities.

In Nigeria, the continent’s most populous country and second-biggest importer of Chinese goods, authorities said the Port Health Services division of the Federal Ministry of Health was on alert and had increased screening measures at points of entry.

“Travellers from Nigeria to Wuhan, China, are advised to avoid contact with sick people, animals (alive or dead), and animal markets,” the Nigerian government warned.
It added that port health officers might ask travellers from Wuhan questions upon arrival about their travel history and possible symptoms.

The Nigeria Centre for Disease Control is also coordinating a multidisciplinary technical group to assess and manage the risk of the contagion spreading to Nigeria.

Kenya’s health ministry also said that it had heightened surveillance at all ports of entry and screening of passengers. Flag carrier Kenya Airways operates two non-stop flights between the capital Nairobi and the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou, while China Southern Airlines has direct flights between Nairobi and Changsha, in Hunan province in central China.

 

[Niggaplease]

Considering getting a vogmask or something of the like for my mom if it gets widespread stateside. We live in the middle of BFE, but she's immunocompromised and I'm a worrywart.

I have medical grade full ppe, enough bleach to last a year, I'm naturally always stocked on canned and dry goods. And air flirtation system in the house.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

Just to throw my two cents into this money pile here:

The developed world (The West and friends) will be heavily affected, but will ultimately survive with relatively little damage.

A lot of factors contribute to that, better healthcare, earlier warning, better hygiene in general, less lung based conditions, etc, etc.

China, on the other hand, is an entirely different case. It is already getting very interesting over there, and is liable to continue to deteriorate.

The majority of the damage will probably be limited to China.

The only thing that I could see throwing that prediction off is a confirmation of a high contagion probability in the early incubation period.

Anyway, I also want to add to the chorus thanking the various autistic farmers for keeping all of us updated.

Let's hope we don't live in interesting times.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

Oh no...
Africa on alert for first case of Wuhan coronavirus

Spoiler

China / Society
Africa on alert for first case of Wuhan coronavirus

• Ivory Coast woman with flu-like symptoms under observation in isolation in West African country after arriving from Beijing on the weekend
• Various countries across the continent ramp up screening for the illness to prevent its spread

Topic | China coronavirus outbreak

Jevans Nyabiage
Published: 9:30pm, 27 Jan, 2020


Advertisement

African countries have stepped up screenings at border checkpoints to prevent the spread of
a pneumonia-like illness from China
as the continent waits to see if it has its first confirmed case of the coronavirus.
Eugène Aka Aouele, the Ivorian health minister, said on Sunday that a 34-year-old woman from the West African country had arrived in Abidjan from Beijing on Saturday with
flu-like symptoms including difficulty breathing, coughing, sneezing and a runny nose
.
The woman, a student who has lived in Beijing for five years, was in isolation, under medical observation and her condition was “satisfactory”, the health ministry said.
“There is a suspicion of a case of coronavirus pneumonia. The final diagnosis will be established after the results of the analysis of the samples taken,” Aouele said.
Several airlines, including Kenya Airways, Ethiopian Airlines, Air Algerie, EgyptAir and South African Airways, fly to Chinese cities. Chinese airlines such as China Southern Airlines and Chinese flag-carrier Air China also have routes to some African cities.

In Nigeria, the continent’s most populous country and second-biggest importer of Chinese goods, authorities said the Port Health Services division of the Federal Ministry of Health was on alert and had increased screening measures at points of entry.

“Travellers from Nigeria to Wuhan, China, are advised to avoid contact with sick people, animals (alive or dead), and animal markets,” the Nigerian government warned.
It added that port health officers might ask travellers from Wuhan questions upon arrival about their travel history and possible symptoms.

The Nigeria Centre for Disease Control is also coordinating a multidisciplinary technical group to assess and manage the risk of the contagion spreading to Nigeria.

Kenya’s health ministry also said that it had heightened surveillance at all ports of entry and screening of passengers. Flag carrier Kenya Airways operates two non-stop flights between the capital Nairobi and the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou, while China Southern Airlines has direct flights between Nairobi and Changsha, in Hunan province in central China.

Africa just can't catch a break, can it? First HIV/AIDS, then Marburg fever, then Ebola-chan, now Corona-chan is going on safari.
A real worry is that it's in West Africa during ongoing ebola activity. I wonder how likely DNA/RNA transfer is between filoviruses and coronaviruses. This may be the event that gets Ebola-chan airborne.

Instead of a Dark Lord, you would have a Queen, not dark but beautiful and terrible as the dawn! Tempestuous as the sea, and stronger than the foundations of the earth! All shall love me and despair!

 

[Ivan Shatov]

DHS sent around a memo regarding Corona Virus today. Jist was be aware it's happening and it could be serious.

ICE and CBP agents have been asking questions about how to handle interviews. Agents working at airports (CBP) have been in close quarters with people from affected areas and want to know what to do to protect their health. There's a lot of concern about Canadian border - lots of Chinese nationals come in through there.

So far, no counter measures have been put in place. This could change in the next week. Company line is there have been 80 fatalities, this doesn't register on our do anything scale.

DHS is pretty good about protecting it's people. If they knew something, we'd be seeing a different response.

 

[Judge Holden]

Oh no...
Africa on alert for first case of Wuhan coronavirus

Spoiler

China / Society
Africa on alert for first case of Wuhan coronavirus

• Ivory Coast woman with flu-like symptoms under observation in isolation in West African country after arriving from Beijing on the weekend
• Various countries across the continent ramp up screening for the illness to prevent its spread

Topic | China coronavirus outbreak

Jevans Nyabiage
Published: 9:30pm, 27 Jan, 2020


Advertisement

African countries have stepped up screenings at border checkpoints to prevent the spread of
a pneumonia-like illness from China
as the continent waits to see if it has its first confirmed case of the coronavirus.
Eugène Aka Aouele, the Ivorian health minister, said on Sunday that a 34-year-old woman from the West African country had arrived in Abidjan from Beijing on Saturday with
flu-like symptoms including difficulty breathing, coughing, sneezing and a runny nose
.
The woman, a student who has lived in Beijing for five years, was in isolation, under medical observation and her condition was “satisfactory”, the health ministry said.
“There is a suspicion of a case of coronavirus pneumonia. The final diagnosis will be established after the results of the analysis of the samples taken,” Aouele said.
Several airlines, including Kenya Airways, Ethiopian Airlines, Air Algerie, EgyptAir and South African Airways, fly to Chinese cities. Chinese airlines such as China Southern Airlines and Chinese flag-carrier Air China also have routes to some African cities.

In Nigeria, the continent’s most populous country and second-biggest importer of Chinese goods, authorities said the Port Health Services division of the Federal Ministry of Health was on alert and had increased screening measures at points of entry.

“Travellers from Nigeria to Wuhan, China, are advised to avoid contact with sick people, animals (alive or dead), and animal markets,” the Nigerian government warned.
It added that port health officers might ask travellers from Wuhan questions upon arrival about their travel history and possible symptoms.

The Nigeria Centre for Disease Control is also coordinating a multidisciplinary technical group to assess and manage the risk of the contagion spreading to Nigeria.

Kenya’s health ministry also said that it had heightened surveillance at all ports of entry and screening of passengers. Flag carrier Kenya Airways operates two non-stop flights between the capital Nairobi and the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou, while China Southern Airlines has direct flights between Nairobi and Changsha, in Hunan province in central China.

Ebola, AIDs, Malaria, and Bubonic Plague greet their new cellmate

 

[Niggaplease]

Yup the US is the land of antivaxxers too. This isn't going to play well either with that special brand of stupid either.

Just imagine being some kid coming down with measles because your parents are retarded, and then you get hit with a viral based pneumonia that a doctor can do fuck all about it other than supportive care.

 

[JongleJingle]

Africa just can't catch a break, can it? First HIV/AIDS, then Marburg fever, then Ebola-chan, now Corona-chan is going on safari.
A real worry is that it's in West Africa during ongoing ebola activity. I wonder how likely DNA/RNA transfer is between filoviruses and coronaviruses. This may be the event that gets Ebola-chan airborne.

Poor nignogs are gonna have to deal with both Ebola Zeds AND Corona Wheezers soon... Man Africa is fucked.

 

[AltisticRight]

Traditional Chinese Medicine to the rescue!
Text: The virus isn't spreading as fast as TCM doctor's scamming of money.
Not going to translate the ingredients. It's a load of hogwash I can't be bothered to look up.

Red text on bottle: 2019-nCov TCM prevention
[List of whack autistic plants and whatever]
Suitable for: Healthy Individuals
Drink 20ml at a time, 1-2 times a day.

So if you're healthy, this thing is totally going to prevent the virus! BTW don't go outside.
I have another method. Buy a Winnie the Pooh plushie and stay indoors, that will prevent you from contacting the virus too.

 

[LazyLizard]

There are several critical factors that will unfold over the next 5 days:

1. The CDC or the WHO will confirm or revoke the chinese statement that 2019-nCov is infectious during the incubation. This is the most important aspect bar none; and either confirms we are in a real global threat or not.

2a. If it IS NOT infectious, then we have averted a major disaster and regular quarantine rules will apply and we will not see a genuine pandemic. We will probably see it as a technical pandemic, but not the "full Monty".

2b. If we see the CDC or WHO confirm China's statement that IT IS Infectious during the incubation then we will see this virus most certainly become a global pandemic and confirmation of such within a week. Why? Because it means for every confirmed case there are vast amounts of unknown cases wandering around the globe. They are not showing symptoms, but are spreading it.

3. If point 2b is true, then governments will have to instigate quarantine of people who show no symptoms and for every newly confirmed case this will be dozens of people that person has been in contact with or around. People don't like being locked up for 14 days with other people when they may actually not be sick - thus they most certainly will get sick. So people will stop self-reporting to avoid having themselves and their family members quarantined. This will be the same in every country.

4. Because of the late revelation of point 2b (if it is confirmed), some actions must be taken to social distance which will include restricted air travel and social events. This will impact the entire global economy quickly.

i wonder what would be the best strategy, to barricade yourself in your apartment/house and survive on supplies for weeks/months hoping some government will come up with a cure or simply packing up and running into the forest with as much food and water as you can carry and survival equipment.

 

[Dank Wankula]

I love how well the suit fits over my avatar, just by sheer chance.
Thanks null.

 

[Niggaplease]

View attachment 1117809
Traditional Chinese Medicine to the rescue!
Text: The virus isn't spreading as fast as TCM doctor's scamming of money.
Not going to translate the ingredients. It's a load of hogwash I can't be bothered to look up.

Red text on bottle: 2019-nCov TCM prevention
[List of whack autistic plants and whatever]
Suitable for: Healthy Individuals
Drink 20ml at a time, 1-2 times a day.

So if you're healthy, this thing is totally going to prevent the virus! BTW don't go outside.
I have another method. Buy a Winnie the Pooh plushie and stay indoors, that will prevent you from contacting the virus too.

Probably exotic animal piss and factory grade alcohol.