Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[JosephStalin]

I'm sure it will reassure you to know that we're up to 4578 official cases now. Corona-chan has been busy.
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Jesus Christ! If those numbers hold true, or even close to true, China = fucked.

Numbers don't tell the entire story. Say the predictions of dead and sick as of 21 February, which isn't that far away, hold true or are even exceeded. Good chance a lot of health professionals will be among the dead/sick. Takes a long time to train a doctor, not as long for a nurse, but you cannot get more of each overnight. Would expect PLA doctors/nurses/medical personnel not needed to treat sick troops to be used in towns/cities.

Before this outbreak gets to 21 February I see a triage system being used nationally. Not enough medical people and supplies to treat everyone. X number will get well on their own. Y number will not make it, no matter what is done. They're going to need to concentrate on treating Z number, those who can recover with treatment.

Even at that, there's likely to be a lot of disruption in China. Sick people cannot work, and dead people sure can't work. Could see shortages of certain specialties, such as transit workers. One thing I would do if in charge - severely restrict access to all electric power plants. Check everyone coming in as well as coming out. No non-essential visitors. Masks to be worn at all times by everyone. Have medical people roaming, observing the employees, taking random temperatures. Gotta keep the nation supplied with electricity. No power = MEGA fucked.

At times like this, things we take for granted without even thinking can rise to the fore, such as workers at electric power plants. Trash collectors will also be vital. Piled-up garbage creates a great environment for rats and flies, which can spread diseases. Even in China, living today relies on a surprisingly dense, yet fragile web of support functions, things not even noticed until they are gone.

"Interesting times" have come to China, it seems.

 

[Shitassdeaddude]

Jesus Christ! If those numbers hold true, or even close to true, China = fucked.

Numbers don't tell the entire story. Say the predictions of dead and sick as of 21 February, which isn't that far away, hold true or are even exceeded. Good chance a lot of health professionals will be among the dead/sick. Takes a long time to train a doctor, not as long for a nurse, but you cannot get more of each overnight. Would expect PLA doctors/nurses/medical personnel not needed to treat sick troops to be used in towns/cities.

Before this outbreak gets to 21 February I see a triage system being used nationally. Not enough medical people and supplies to treat everyone. X number will get well on their own. Y number will not make it, no matter what is done. They're going to need to concentrate on treating Z number, those who can recover with treatment.

Even at that, there's likely to be a lot of disruption in China. Sick people cannot work, and dead people sure can't work. Could see shortages of certain specialties, such as transit workers. One thing I would do if in charge - severely restrict access to all electric power plants. Check everyone coming in as well as coming out. No non-essential visitors. Masks to be worn at all times by everyone. Have medical people roaming, observing the employees, taking random temperatures. Gotta keep the nation supplied with electricity. No power = MEGA fucked.

At times like this, things we take for granted without even thinking can rise to the fore, such as workers at electric power plants. Trash collectors will also be vital. Piled-up garbage creates a great environment for rats and flies, which can spread diseases. Even in China, living today relies on a surprisingly dense, yet fragile web of support functions, things not even noticed until they are gone.

"Interesting times" have come to China, it seems.

China is particularly vulnerable to this kind of disaster. Nobody takes even basic hygene seriously and the country is so densely populated they're practically packed in like sardines. The only thing shocking about this situation is that a collapse of this scale hasn't already happened.

 

[JosephStalin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxm2WGXcGg

“Does not spread person to person in USA”
“Respect for patient privacy”

Compared to measles, something which they understand. They don’t understand Corona 6 pack of pneumonia so no need for any updates until they understand the disease fully.
Welcome to California

Typical fucking bureaucratic response. Sure doesn't give a person a lot of confidence in their ability to deal with an epidemic. Being Southern California, they'd likely be having meetings about ensuring "diversity" among medical professionals instead of making sure people are getting treatment. Can see why comments have been turned off. They don't want to face criticism.

 

[Hackallier]

At least the memes coming out of this are fantastic.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

One thing I would do if in charge - severely restrict access to all electric power plants. Check everyone coming in as well as coming out. No non-essential visitors. Masks to be worn at all times by everyone. Have medical people roaming, observing the employees, taking random temperatures. Gotta keep the nation supplied with electricity. No power = MEGA fucked.

At times like this, things we take for granted without even thinking can rise to the fore, such as workers at electric power plants. Trash collectors will also be vital. Piled-up garbage creates a great environment for rats and flies, which can spread diseases. Even in China, living today relies on a surprisingly dense, yet fragile web of support functions, things not even noticed until they are gone.

"Interesting times" have come to China, it seems.

Temperature taking on arrival at school and workplaces was a SARS protocol in my area. Every single person had their temperature taken before admission to the building. Anything above normal, a second reading was taken aftera few minutes, giving the individual time to cool down if the temperature rise was caused by being stuck in a hot bus or train or rushing fast up the stairs or whatever. if you will STILL above normal range, you got sent home immediately, no ifs or buts. Gone for the day. If you didn't exhibit any more symptoms or start to feel ill, back to work and temperature taken again at the door the next day. Nobody was being allowed to sit in class or infect others at close quarters if they showed the first signs of a fever.

Cannot agree more about the garbage. You can go years without middle managers and marketing 'experts' and other office types but civilization starts to fall apart within a week or two without cleaners, rubbish collectors and sanitation workers. Roach and rat infestations happen fast and are hard to get rid of. Even mild squalor is terrible for morale. Cleaners and sanitation folks who do their jobs well deserve a lot more respect than they get .

 

[Ow The Edge]

Jesus Christ! If those numbers hold true, or even close to true, China = fucked.

Numbers don't tell the entire story. Say the predictions of dead and sick as of 21 February, which isn't that far away, hold true or are even exceeded. Good chance a lot of health professionals will be among the dead/sick. Takes a long time to train a doctor, not as long for a nurse, but you cannot get more of each overnight. Would expect PLA doctors/nurses/medical personnel not needed to treat sick troops to be used in towns/cities.

Before this outbreak gets to 21 February I see a triage system being used nationally. Not enough medical people and supplies to treat everyone. X number will get well on their own. Y number will not make it, no matter what is done. They're going to need to concentrate on treating Z number, those who can recover with treatment.

Even at that, there's likely to be a lot of disruption in China. Sick people cannot work, and dead people sure can't work. Could see shortages of certain specialties, such as transit workers. One thing I would do if in charge - severely restrict access to all electric power plants. Check everyone coming in as well as coming out. No non-essential visitors. Masks to be worn at all times by everyone. Have medical people roaming, observing the employees, taking random temperatures. Gotta keep the nation supplied with electricity. No power = MEGA fucked.

At times like this, things we take for granted without even thinking can rise to the fore, such as workers at electric power plants. Trash collectors will also be vital. Piled-up garbage creates a great environment for rats and flies, which can spread diseases. Even in China, living today relies on a surprisingly dense, yet fragile web of support functions, things not even noticed until they are gone.

"Interesting times" have come to China, it seems.

Don't forget that this thing will likely continue to spread throughout other countries as well, or discount the economic shockwaves that will come if the world's second largest economy shuts down in a panic. They've already extended their holiday two extra weeks.

 

[Muttnik]

Fucking THIS is why this shit is getting as bad as it is. This is what I was talking about. "Traditional Chinese medicines" are the equivalent of woo shit that mlm schemes sell. It doesn't do jack shit. These people need warm beds, tons of fluids, proper nutrition, sanitary conditions, and actual virus-centered medicine that's not made out of lion intestine or white rhino horns.

 

[ln18]

It is if you eat it normally.
Buy what you eat. But If you eat nothing but takeout and TV dinner type shit then maybe its time to start learning some basic cookery.

Let Anne Byrd be your guide.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

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Fucking THIS is why this shit is getting as bad as it is. This is what I was talking about. "Traditional Chinese medicines" are the equivalent of woo shit that mlm schemes sell. It doesn't do jack shit.

As we've learned, there is a huge swathe of the mainland population who demand that superstitious magical tiger bone shit over real evience-based medicine and start murdering doctors when they get what they consider the 'wrong' treatment over whatever idiocy their uneducated ass thinks they should have. It's likely a placebo to splacate and shut those dumb fuckers up, or look like they're actually doing something when decent treatment isn't available or the patient is fucked anyway, or both.

 

[Arctic Fox]

Okay okay, everyone is worried about getting sick, and it's good to take precautions and be extra conscious of sanitization, but if you're really going to worry, worry about the people.

People do not worry about food or creature conforts in the West. They take it for granted. When an emergency pops up they will panic. And panicking people are more dangerous than disease. People are most dangerous when frightened. Avoid people clearly panicking just as you would those who are coughing.

Calmly get your shopping done, remain calm in public, don't wear a fucking surgical mask unless your coughing.
Canned goods are your friend. Here's a simple list along with other goods.

Soups
Broth
Beans
Chili
Canned meat
Canned peaches, apples, pears, applesauce, etc.
Rice is cheap and good for you
Tuna. Cheap, high in protein
Hand sanitizer and wipes.
P100 mask as a precaution, one for each of the household. They're fifty bucks on Amazon atm. Might change soon.
Propane or gas cannister for a camping stove
Camping stove
Extra blankets if you don't have them
A good jacket, multiple if able
Good boots
Socks socks socks! Socks are your best friend.
Rubbing alcohol, first aid supplies, etc
If you own a gun, buy extra ammo. For those who are thinking of it, start with a shotgun or rifle. As has been mentioned before, they're easier to use. I recommend a shotgun. Pump is solid, but as has also been mentioned already double-barrels are durable and are extremely unlikely to jam.

At the very least, you have some camping supplies and back up food for a while. I doubt it will get very bad, but say it is an actual apocalyptic scenario.

Stay home, mind your own business, get together with trustworthy folks, only leave home when absolutely necessary, keep your stuff in good condition, and properly ration your food and water. If you're going out, eat a little more, drink extra. If you're just at home practice strict portion control.

And if you get any good video oppurtunities make sure to upload it to here so we have something to entertain ourselves.

 

[Coleslaw]

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Fucking THIS is why this shit is getting as bad as it is. This is what I was talking about. "Traditional Chinese medicines" are the equivalent of woo shit that mlm schemes sell. It doesn't do jack shit. These people need warm beds, tons of fluids, proper nutrition, sanitary conditions, and actual virus-centered medicine that's not made out of lion intestine or white rhino horns.

It would be very funny if my money wasn't going to it.

 

[nosemouth]

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And just like that, I now support the coronavirus.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I have a close friend who is currently traveling to the Philippines. She'll be there for a couple of weeks. I'm internally screaming out of concern for her. When she was talking to me about it, she (and everyone else around me) acted like it was nothing. The media is truly underreporting this. Holy shit.

I've read stories about the Philippines trying to handle the situation to prevent an outbreak ... But China could easily fuck them over if they denied any access to their land, I think. I don't know what to believe at this point in time.

There's just a lot of untruths being reported (that's what we get from a Communist government ...). I can't help but worry for my friend.

 

[Ow The Edge]

I have a close friend who is currently traveling to the Philippines. She'll be there for a couple of weeks. I'm internally screaming out of concern for her. When she was talking to me about it, she (and everyone else around me) acted like it was nothing. The media is truly underreporting this. Holy shit.

I've read stories about the Philippines trying to handle the situation to prevent an outbreak ... But China could easily fuck them over if they denied any access to their land, I think. I don't know what to believe at this point in time.

There's just a lot of untruths being reported (that's what we get from a Communist government ...). I can't help but worry for my friend.

You're not wrong to be worried.

 

[Arctic Fox]

If anyone wants to form a furry hunting club if this really is the end of civilization, I might be game depending on the area.

 

[tehpope]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxm2WGXcGg

“Does not spread person to person in USA”
“Respect for patient privacy”

Compared to measles, something which they understand. They don’t understand Corona 6 pack of pneumonia so no need for any updates until they understand the disease fully.
Welcome to California

Thumbs up and down & comments disabled.

 

[ketamineshovel]

So has everyone decided to stock up on carbon/charcoal masks? Despite not being in an area within enough radius to "worry" about the virus, I still plan on wearing one when going out in public.

 

[HitchWunter]

If anyone wants to form a furry hunting club if this really is the end of civilization, I might be game depending on the area.

I don't think I want to eat lanky, smelly incel meat. Pelts might be alright if you wash them.

 

[Muttnik]

Here's more information about how conditions really are in these kinds of places--unsanitary and with low resources even on a normal day apparently.

I don't know if any of this is comforting information but apparently China has ALWAYS had a shitty healthcare system from the very beginning and that might be the reason why this is blowing up so bad and why so many people are dropping like flies. I'm putting my faith to Uncle Sam's infinitely superior healthcare system to save my ass if this gets bad (which hopefully it won't). Plus if people are supposedly being cured and discharged from shithole hospitals in bumfuck China--not a lot but they're still claiming it--I think there's a good chance the same will happen but to greater effect in the West.

 

[ln18]

Good plague shorts.

This one's not as good.