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So far this has been a whiff for people that don't have fucked up urban Chinese lungs but I hope it kills most of the Arabian peninsula somehow.
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If I thought the Commies could accomplish something like making a virus then yes I could see that being a thing, but the Communists are so terrible at everything if they tried to make a Super-Virus they would accidentally make a virus that grants immortality and then destroy by accident. I don't think the virus came from Eating Habits..but the general health situation in the backwater areas of China sure as hell didn't help this situation out at all.Do you guys believe the theory that the virus was man-made as a way for the Chinese government to curb the elderly population,Wuhan had some bio-tech labs, or do you believe the main culprit is just Chinese eating habits?
Looks like they’re actually wearing gloves too! It blows my mind that people in China handle raw wildlife meat without gloves. Without even considering the safety of buyers, it makes no sense to me why someone wouldn’t want to prevent exposure to whatever nasty shit might be on wild animals.View attachment 1120925
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“No more BATS & SNAKES for gourmands: China bans WILDLIFE trade after virus outbreak linked to agricultural producers READ MORE: https://t.co/K63RAMFbeO https://t.co/Q4m4G7ZB0n”twitter.com
Finally some good news.
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RT on Twitter
“No more BATS & SNAKES for gourmands: China bans WILDLIFE trade after virus outbreak linked to agricultural producers READ MORE: https://t.co/K63RAMFbeO https://t.co/Q4m4G7ZB0n”twitter.com
Finally some good news.
That's not good news. It's a band-aid on a tranny's stinkditch. It's the hygiene that's the problem, not the animals themselves.View attachment 1120925
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RT on Twitter
“No more BATS & SNAKES for gourmands: China bans WILDLIFE trade after virus outbreak linked to agricultural producers READ MORE: https://t.co/K63RAMFbeO https://t.co/Q4m4G7ZB0n”twitter.com
Finally some good news.
I told you China was still communist. Raise the price of an item to be commensurate with its value? How dare you!View attachment 1120935
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Chinese pharmacy to pay $430,000 fine after it hikes face mask price by SIX TIMES as coronavirus spread overshadows SARS
A drug store in Beijing will have to pay a hefty fine after it apparently tried to cash in on the coronavirus outbreak, hiking the price of an essential protective mask by about six times, China’s market watchdog has said.www.rt.com
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No. I don’t believe it was deliberately released to do that. Has it been released? Maybe, it’s not possible to say right now. Is it natural? Very possible, these viruses do emerge like this. Is it man made? Also possible, the fact it is contagious before symptoms is very unusual.Do you guys believe the theory that the virus was man-made as a way for the Chinese government to curb the elderly population,Wuhan had some bio-tech labs, or do you believe the main culprit is just Chinese eating habits?
They do not know what they’re doing. Kid and entire family should be home for incubation period plus. Rate me MOTI but that is absolute fucking insanity.Ironically the child of the dude who first got infected is happily going to kindergarten because she's 'symptom free'. I hope they know what they're doing
Kid and entire family should be home for incubation period plus.
Looks like they’re actually wearing gloves too! It blows my mind that people in China handle raw wildlife meat without gloves. Without even considering the safety of buyers, it makes no sense to me why someone wouldn’t want to prevent exposure to whatever nasty shit might be on wild animals.
>On Jan. 21, 2020, ZhengHarvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/...hinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china (http://archive.vn/EVsfN)
BOSTON – The U.S. Attorney’s Office announced today that the Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department and two Chinese nationals have been charged in connection with aiding the People’s Republic of China.
Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Lieber will appear this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler in federal court in Boston.
Yanqing Ye, 29, a Chinese national, was charged in an indictment today with one count each of visa fraud, making false statements, acting as an agent of a foreign government and conspiracy. Ye is currently in China.
Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.
Dr. Charles Lieber
According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University, beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruitment plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference, applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT.
The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.
Yanqing Ye
According to the indictment, Ye is a Lieutenant of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), the armed forces of the People’s Republic of China and member of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). On her J-1 visa application, Ye falsely identified herself as a “student” and lied about her ongoing military service at the National University of Defense Technology (NUDT), a top military academy directed by the CCP. It is further alleged that while studying at Boston University’s (BU) Department of Physics, Chemistry and Biomedical Engineering from October 2017 to April 2019, Ye continued to work as a PLA Lieutenant completing numerous assignments from PLA officers such as conducting research, assessing U.S. military websites and sending U.S. documents and information to China.
According to court documents, on April 20, 2019, federal officers interviewed Ye at Boston’s Logan International Airport. During the interview, it is alleged that Ye falsely claimed that she had minimal contact with two NUDT professors who were high-ranking PLA officers. However, a search of Ye’s electronic devices demonstrated that at the direction of one NUDT professor, who was a PLA Colonel, Ye had accessed U.S. military websites, researched U.S. military projects and compiled information for the PLA on two U.S. scientists with expertise in robotics and computer science. Furthermore, a review of a WeChat conversation revealed that Ye and the other PLA official from NUDT were collaborating on a research paper about a risk assessment model designed to decipher data for military applications. During the interview, Ye admitted that she held the rank of Lieutenant in the PLA and admitted she was a member of the CCP.
Zaosong Zheng
In August 2018, Zheng entered the United States on a J-1 visa and conducted cancer-cell research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston from Sept. 4, 2018, to Dec. 9, 2019. It is alleged that on Dec. 9, 2019, Zheng stole 21 vials of biological research and attempted to smuggle them out of the United States aboard a flight destined for China. Federal officers at Logan Airport discovered the vials hidden in a sock inside one of Zheng’s bags, and not properly packaged. It is alleged that initially, Zheng lied to officers about the contents of his luggage, but later admitted he had stolen the vials from a lab at Beth Israel. Zheng stated that he intended to bring the vials to China to use them to conduct research in his own laboratory and publish the results under his own name.
The charge of making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of visa fraud provides for a sentence of up to 10years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of acting as an agent of a foreign government provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of conspiracy provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of smuggling goods from the United States provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. Sentences are imposed by a federal district court judge based upon the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
United States Attorney Andrew E. Lelling; John C. Demers, Assistant Attorney General for National Security; Joseph R. Bonavolonta, Special Agent in Charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Boston Field Division; Michael Denning, Director of Field Operations, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Boston Field Office; Leigh-Alistair Barzey, Special Agent in Charge of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, Northeast Field Office; Philip Coyne, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General; and William Higgins, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Commerce, Office of Export Enforcement, Boston Field Office made the announcement today. Assistant U.S. Attorneys B. Stephanie Siegmann, Jason Casey and Benjamin Tolkoff of Lelling’s National Security Unit are prosecuting these cases with the assistance of Trial Attorneys William Mackie and Davie Aaron of the National Security Division’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section.
These case are part of the Department of Justice’s China Initiative, which reflects the strategic priority of countering Chinese national security threats and reinforces the President’s overall national security strategy. In addition to identifying and prosecuting those engaged in trade secret theft, hacking and economic espionage, the initiative will increase efforts to protect our critical infrastructure against external threats including foreign direct investment, supply chain threats and the foreign agents seeking to influence the American public and policymakers without proper registration.
The details contained in the charging documents are allegations. The defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
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RT on Twitter
“No more BATS & SNAKES for gourmands: China bans WILDLIFE trade after virus outbreak linked to agricultural producers READ MORE: https://t.co/K63RAMFbeO https://t.co/Q4m4G7ZB0n”twitter.com
Finally some good news.
Ah, Scots and Aussies leading the charge. I wonder if that Scottish team is going to rely on volunteers. I mean, there isn't really going to be a shortage of people who have the virus already...G'day, Aussies! May your progress blaze forward like the fires devouring your country. Seriously though, I'm glad. It's at least something. Good for them.
I also recently read that the Scottish team that created a vaccine for zika virus in just 7 months is currently charging ahead with the intent to get a full human vaccine done in only 4 months.
Britain finally banned air travel. The White House is still thinking about it.Hi all, bit of an update on the SEA side.
Went to the mall opposite the Singaporean border today to catch up with my ex-colleagues. Found a shitton of people wearing surgical masks and about 3 people with the 3M N95's. Well, at least it's a placebo that helps prevent you spraying your snot everywhere...
And since I was next to the border, I decided to check out the Immigration situation. Say what you want about Singapore having an authoritarian streak, but they get shit done real quick. Personnel around all potential exits with body temperature sensor guns and all. Guess they got spooked pretty bad by 2003 SARS.
now if only another country with a bit of an authoritarian streak could have half the efficiency of Singapore in damage control.....
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That sounds a lot like the first wave of the Spanish Flu.Interesting article on Bloomberg today regarding the issue of the incubation period and the 10 year old boy who was infectious during the incubation period. It is vague on the details but seems to imply that perhaps rather than not showing symptoms, that for healthy infants and perhaps adults that the symptoms are so mild they are undetectable except through exceptional diagnostic means such as swabbing.
It would imply we likely have tens of thousands of cases, but that most are having such mild symptoms that they are not being tested.
It also may indicate the virus is gaining strength to infect; but perhaps is also mutating to be less severe, thus the mortality rate at this time may be as low as 0.5%. Right now mortality rate percentages are based on known cases but it would seem that only 1 in 5 cases are likely known about, thus fatalities are always known because they leave bodies.
I'd suggest that we likely are going to see a mortality rate ending up (assuming no serious mutations), of around 0.5% - 1.5%. But a probable spread to millions.
But until the infectious nature of the incubation period is really understood to be true or not, I'd suggest that we likely we will not see a global pandemic - perhaps a technical one, but unlikely to be global.
But if we do, in a weird twist, it will be the children that will become the super-spreaders and grandpa and grandma will pay the price.