Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Oh man Pooh bear masks please
 
China-wide, if spending on things including discretionary transport and entertainment dropped by 10 percent, overall gross domestic product (GDP) growth would fall by about 1.2 percentage points, according to "back of the envelope" estimates from Shaun Roache, chief economist for the Asia Pacific region at global ratings agency Standard & Poor's.

Link also has nice breakdowns of Wuhan's annual tourist numbers, tourist income, etc. I fully expect the Chinese kept the outbreak hush for several weeks so that they could sign the US-China phase 1 trade deal; otherwise, they would have completely fucked their economy.
 
A shoutout to the mad Kiwis who did this, also.

Bar is slammed for coronavirus-themed promotion offering $6.50 Coronas while the pandemic lasts - but the boss says offended 'snowflakes need a sense of humour'


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A shoutout to the mad Kiwis who did this, also.

Bar is slammed for coronavirus-themed promotion offering $6.50 Coronas while the pandemic lasts - but the boss says offended 'snowflakes need a sense of humour'


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I'm more offended that those bottles of Mexican pisswater almost cost 7 bills to buy.
 
Does anyone have the articles that say one of the symptoms was coughing blood and a guy who has it has to get forty or so ounces of blood pumped out of his lungs? Seems like searches of that scrubbed it, and I'm too lazy to dig for 165 pages to find it.
 
One aspect about this whole thing which is bothering me is the infections reported specifically the USA. The USA - like most other nations at the top of the list - should have seen a few more cases reported. We have a great deal of travel to and from China. But our figure isn't growing. This is statistically very unlikely and indicates a problem. Of the 100 or so suspected cases, about 70 of them have been confirmed to be negative. They were suspected because they showed something that looked like a symptom- so obviously it was a cold or something else they had.

Which means in all likelihood the infected persons who arrived to the USA have been entirely missed and are about to show symptoms within the next 3-5 days. They are here. And they have been missed.

It is a near certainty with modeling that there are cases here in the USA that are unknown to the CDC or anyone else. If they are infectious during incubation then the data will show this in an explosive growth within 5-7 days.

Does anyone have the articles that say one of the symptoms was coughing blood and a guy who has it has to get forty or so ounces of blood pumped out of his lungs? Seems like searches of that scrubbed it, and I'm too lazy to dig for 165 pages to find it.
Sounds extreme and unlikely. It is possible if other medical conditions exist or an extreme infection has set in. But as for this being a standard or moderate action of the 2019-nCoV, no, it wouldn't be. I'd expect mucus or pus but not blood. This is likely a single case or fake.

Update about the Wuhan plague ship arriving in the US following evacuation of American citizens from Wuhan, China.


https://www.foxla.com/news/passenge...-from-wuhan-arrives-at-march-air-reserve-base

RIVERSIDE, Calif. - A jet airliner carrying a reported 201 American evacuees from Wuhan, China landed at March Air Reserve Base in Riverside County Wednesday morning.

The flight landed just after 8 a.m.

Health officials say the deadly coronavirus originated in Wuhan and the latest numbers reflect 5,974 cases in China.

Those aboard reportedly include diplomats and their families, along with businessmen.


Officials provided an update late Wednesday morning.

The aircraft was originally set to land at the Ontario International Airport, but was diverted to the military base.
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Healthcare workers began setting up mobile health clinics at March Air Reserve Base around 4 a.m. They were prepared to give evacuees another round of medical screenings once the plane lands in Riverside County.

The plane first landed in Alaska from China where all passengers underwent a medical screening at the airport and were all cleared.

“All passengers had already been screened twice before they left China. They were monitored on the flight and in Anchorage, passengers were screened twice more and were approved to continue onto California by the CDC. In California, they will continue medical screenings and will finish the repatriation process,” Anne Zink, the Chief Medical Officer for the State of Alaska said.

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Local officials said steps are being taken to ensure there is no threat to public health.

"While we realize that many people are nervous right now, understand that we are committed to your safety and are taking all precautions to ensure both the passengers and our residents are safe," Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Hewitt said.

The plane touched down at March ARB at 8:11 a.m. The passengers remained at the base and were cordoned off from military personnel. While they are not under mandatory quarantine orders, they are expected to remain under observation at the base for 72 hours.

"When I talked to them about their willingness to stay to be fully evaluated over three days or so, all of those that I talked to were very willing to do that. ... They want to protect their family, they want to protect others," said Christopher Braden, a deputy director at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The passengers will be checked for temperature and respiratory symptoms every three hours over the course of the next three days, officials said.

Asked if any passengers will be allowed to leave the base before the three-day evaluation period is up, Rear Admiral Dr. Nancy Knight, director of the Division of Global Health Protection at the CDC, said, "Any discussion about departure will be just that, a discussion."

Braden said that after the three-day evaluation period, passengers will have the option to go home, but they will continue to be monitored for the remainder of the virus' two-week incubation period by their local public health agency.

"If we think that a person is a danger to the community, we can institute an individual quarantine for that person, and we will," said Braden.

The coronavirus outbreak was first detected in December in the industrial city of Wuhan in the Hubei province of central China. Since then, more than 5,975 cases have been reported in China, with at least 132 deaths, and the virus has been confirmed in patients in a handful of other nations, including the United States. As of midday Wednesday, five cases have been confirmed in the United States -- including one in Los Angeles County and one in Orange County.

City News Service contributed to this report.
In older times, they would catapult infected body parts over the walls of the city they were attempting to subdue. But if your enemy is stupid enough to send a cart out, hey, why not fill it for them?
 
I hate to keep being the bearer of bad news, but here's the chart again:
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If your chart holds true, then we will see a divergence shortly where the apparent mortality rate climbs and matches your chart, but the cases do not - giving the appearance of a higher mortality rate, but less cases. Why? Because by the time you get above 20,000 cases, no one has the medical staff or time to do verified diagnostic testing on cases as they are too busy with the tends of thousands of patients dying, and they will cease using "confirmed" numbers and just roll with "suspected cases".
 
Since we are now discussing the possibility of this being a man made virus I'm going to put up these 2 short videos.

The first one is important.
Coronavirus Confirmed as Man-made, Wuhan Mayor Admits Witholding Information 1/27/2020 2:03 minutes.

The second is is how those with power try to stop the flow of information by misinformation. Disinformation
People Tried to Debunk My Coronavirus-Centered Video With an Unrelated Article 1/27/2020 1:42 minutes.

Is this a Made Made Virus? Quite possibility yes. Nobody builds a hospital made out of prefabs for nothing. This did not happen in the SAR's out breaks nor any other of these outbreaks.

Do I think it is? Probably. Because I know their social mindset. Think of them is Medieval Social Serfs With Technology. A FAILED STATE pretending to be a world power, which they are not. This is China works with lies and disinformation about everything that goes on over there. Years ago I got tired dealing with that country as a whole and went elsewhere.

And if it is not a man made Virus then it is it their God damn Serf Mentality of their Wet Markets. Butchering live animals right out in the open and cleanliness is only an imaginary thing.

How bad this could get? Because of sites like these that gather information that people/corporations just love to hide, I think it forced governments to take action well before they would have because of this type of information quickly reached social media. So I think this will not be a catastrophic pandemic as long as people are vigilant and the virus does not mutate into something else.
 
How bad this could get? Because of sites like these that gather information that people/corporations just love to hide, I think it forced governments to take action well before they would have because of this type of information quickly reached social media. So I think this will not be a catastrophic pandemic as long as people are vigilant and the virus does not mutate into something else.

I hope a decade or so from now, HBO makes it into a kind of spiritual sequel miniseries to Chernobyl. I bet there's some fascinating stories to tell from the locals.
 
If your chart holds true, then we will see a divergence shortly where the apparent mortality rate climbs and matches your chart, but the cases do not - giving the appearance of a higher mortality rate, but less cases. Why? Because by the time you get above 20,000 cases, no one has the medical staff or time to do verified diagnostic testing on cases as they are too busy with the tends of thousands of patients dying, and they will cease using "confirmed" numbers and just roll with "suspected cases".

You've brought up an interesting point. When do you think the Chinese will start triaging virus patients? At the rate things are going, soon there won't be enough medical people, buildings, or supplies to treat all the sick. I see no alternative to triage.
 
You've brought up an interesting point. When do you think the Chinese will start triaging virus patients? At the rate things are going, soon there won't be enough medical people, buildings, or supplies to treat all the sick. I see no alternative to triage.
The second those "hospitals" they're building are able to securely contain them.
 
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