Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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https://web.archive.org/web/2019090...certain-men-1.4002264?localLinksEnabled=false
Found this thought-provoking indeed.

 

[Fareal]

In England, the drive to the cities and factories was increased by the parliamentary Enclosure Acts in the late 18the and 19th centuries which deprived the peasants of the right to forage and farm on strips of common land - aright they had often exploited to keep from starving. Once that right was removed, they did start to starve, so the choice was stay and starve, seek work in the cities or emigrate to the New World.



Yeah, I've seen Patrick Moore (the original founder of Greenpeace, the only one with an ecology degree and the guy who they now airpbrush out of their history as he has denounced them for being driven by little more than far left politics) tell about the devastation solar farms do to the deserts they are placed in - basically they have to remove every living thing that lives there and all vegetation that may damage the things. They scoop up tortoises etc which then usually die, it's horrific. I was really referring just to the amount of electrocity generated. In countries such as the UK, it's pathetic, we don't get enough light year round or clear skies yet it's still promoted for householders to invest in. In Australia or wherever it must generate more power - but as you say there are other costs involved as well as environmental impacts. Nothing's 'free' and nothing comes without its own impact environmentally.

I giggle at the end that the UK could become solely or majority reliant on solar. We get so little sunlight that we have the world's highest incidence of diseases like MS which are presently believed to be linked to a lack of Vitamin D. Our own national health services recommends all our children under 16 and most adults take additional Vitamin D supplementation because it's too fucking cloudy here to stay healthy. The idea that this place has enough sunlight to power itself was dreamt up by someone who has never spent a winter in Aberdeen

 

[Secret Asshole]

Her recent speech at Davos was interesting.

All of the hypocrisy aside. I couldn't help but be taken aback by her speech and what she said and the sheer lunacy of the comments. Like beyond that of AOC. Stop all world carbon emissions, instantly? Like literally no more fossil fuels. done, because we have to do what we can to save the planet, by grinding everything to a halt.

Economic downfall aside, the amount of people who would die globally from such an event due to food scarcity or starvation would make all of the famines and wars of the 20th century look benign in comparison.

Even if there was some sort of mass return to the land movement, ala Khmer Rouge style, the infrastructure and ability to produce the food demands of the modern world through traditional conventional farming doesn't exist anymore. The population density of any nation on earth has always been dominated by the availability of food, surplus food leads to surplus population growth, and the systems that mass transportation and fossil fuels has provided in terms of output have been incredible. So much so, that even with the whole population working towards the goal of food production, there wouldn't be enough ways to actually subsist to sustain the whole population and starvation would be the result. And that's not even considering inter-regional and international food shortages, because even if you are able to net produce this food you have no way to effectively transport it without transportation. Even centralized distribution like rail would not make it possible to feed the mass of the population without some form of industrialized preservation method.

So regardless of economic damage, in terms of human cost alone and food security. Greta's cure is worse than the disease.

That said, the other thing that went through my mind as I watched what essentially equated to a chicken little style tantrum at these world leaders is the fact that she seems to think that this is going to have some magical effect. Western cuckold politicians in government aside. Your addressing the rest of the world, and the rest of the world doesn't care. They don't care about your white guilt. They don't care about your climate change. These are the governments of people, who have likely over seen mass conflict, mass starvation, and grinding poverty, and will not stand idly aside and tell their countrymen that they must set aside their aspirations because some 17 year old Swede told them to.

It's mind boggling the level of cognitive dissonance.

There's no cognitive dissonance. You misunderstand the ultra rich.

They want all of us dead. They don't want pesky peasants around. They don't care how many it kills, because they'll always be rich enough to survive. They are so far removed from the mass of the humanity, they no longer understand reality, nor the ramifications of their actions. Or even humanity itself. Nor do their idiot-pawns like AOC or Greta or blue checkmarks on Twitter. They've created a culture lacking empathy and full of pure narcissism. What about the farmers who will lose everything because fertilizers brought life to land? Don't care. What about the people who will starve to death? Don't care. What about driving literally every country into abject poverty for some nebulous fucking goal that mother nature could change in a second? Don't care.

There is no cognitive dissonance. They just don't give a fuck. The reason why the pawns short circuit if you ask them is because they don't have an answer for that. Those behind it would give a tactful answer, but they already know why. Because you are expendable to them.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

There's no cognitive dissonance. You misunderstand the ultra rich.

They want all of us dead. They don't want pesky peasants around. They don't care how many it kills, because they'll always be rich enough to survive. They are so far removed from the mass of the humanity, they no longer understand reality, nor the ramifications of their actions. Or even humanity itself. Nor do their idiot-pawns like AOC or Greta or blue checkmarks on Twitter. They've created a culture lacking empathy and full of pure narcissism. What about the farmers who will lose everything because fertilizers brought life to land? Don't care. What about the people who will starve to death? Don't care. What about driving literally every country into abject poverty for some nebulous fucking goal that mother nature could change in a second? Don't care.

There is no cognitive dissonance. They just don't give a fuck. The reason why the pawns short circuit if you ask them is because they don't have an answer for that. Those behind it would give a tactful answer, but they already know why. Because you are expendable to them.

I think some of them truly just see us all as a statistic. You know the old Stalin(?) quote, the death of one man being a tragedy, the death of millions merely a statistic. We're not individuals to them. We're a mass who has no face, no names and not being in their circles, simply do not matter. We're pieces to be moved on a chessboard, as are the sub-Saharan Africans they want to illegally import en masse as to sit on the dole, long as they don't have to live anywhere near them or send their kids to school with them. We're all pieces in some larger game than is designed to serve them well.

The populace is so atomized, set into factions, whether by class, race or occupation that it's easier to get at least some people cheering the most abject enviro-nonsense because they dont believe it's them being punished or affected, it's that other group. I see cityfied middle-aged middle-class Dutch or Germans or up-themselves UK ER-ers' who have never felt soil under their fingers and work in clean, pristine offices for large salaries all their lives, being anti their own farmers, because well, they have no idea what farmers really do, in their hearts they look down on people who don't work in 'professional' jobs in offices and if the government says they'r making too much CO2 or methane, givernment must be right and the farmers must be punished. Same people who will then twitter about how wrong it is to import so much food and we must grow more ourselves

 

[Imperial Citizen]

I think some of them truly just see us all as a statistic. You know the old Stalin(?) quote, the death of one man being a tragedy, the death of millions merely a statistic. We're not individuals to them. We're a mass who has no face, no names and not being in their circles, simply do not matter. We're pieces to be moved on a chessboard, as are the sub-Saharan Africans they want to illegally import en masse as to sit on the dole, long as they don't have to live anywhere near them or send their kids to school with them. We're all pieces in some larger game than is designed to serve them well.

The populace is so atomized, set into factions, whether by class, race or occupation that it's easier to get at least some people cheering the most abject enviro-nonsense because they dont believe it's them being punished or affected, it's that other group. I see cityfied middle-aged middle-class Dutch or Germans or up-themselves UK ER-ers' who have never felt soil under their fingers and work in clean, pristine offices for large salaries all their lives, being anti their own farmers, because well, they have no idea what farmers really do, in their hearts they look down on people who don't work in 'professional' jobs in offices and if the government says they'r making too much CO2 or methane, givernment must be right and the farmers must be punished. Same people who will then twitter about how wrong it is to import so much food and we must grow more ourselves

It’s more so a product of their upbringing. I remember having units on global warming and recycling in school. I knew that we had to start recycling at home and that we needed to transition from fossil fuels. Did I know how much resources went into recycling? Or the economics of resources? No, because I was a child and I wouldn’t understand how to think that deeply about these issues.

For the upper middle class that are supporting this, they still have the simplistic understanding of climate change policies and they reject the market/capitalism as means to “save the planet” as they believe it was the cause of climate change.

In there minds, the government is the only one who can solve the crisis because it can force people and businesses to do so. They don’t recognize the difficulties in radical transformation of infrastructure of lifestyle because they think that the state’s monopoly on violence will resolve those troublesome difficulties.

And finally you have to realize that you are dealing with a left wing version fundamentalist christians. These people were raised with the belief that an environmental apocalypse is around the corner. They believe that only their solutions will save the planet. Eat the bugs is the same as pray the gay away.

And it’s very difficult to convince a fundamentalist away from their beliefs. The only thing you can do is laugh at them.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

There's no cognitive dissonance. You misunderstand the ultra rich.

They want all of us dead. They don't want pesky peasants around. They don't care how many it kills, because they'll always be rich enough to survive. They are so far removed from the mass of the humanity, they no longer understand reality, nor the ramifications of their actions. Or even humanity itself. Nor do their idiot-pawns like AOC or Greta or blue checkmarks on Twitter. They've created a culture lacking empathy and full of pure narcissism. What about the farmers who will lose everything because fertilizers brought life to land? Don't care. What about the people who will starve to death? Don't care. What about driving literally every country into abject poverty for some nebulous fucking goal that mother nature could change in a second? Don't care.

There is no cognitive dissonance. They just don't give a fuck. The reason why the pawns short circuit if you ask them is because they don't have an answer for that. Those behind it would give a tactful answer, but they already know why. Because you are expendable to them.

I disagree that they want the peasants dead. The rich would rather murder the middle class that's an actual rival than the poor that spends most of their time working or consooming, not to mention that the peasants existence is a good way to confirm the rich person's superiority.
In the end it's similar to 1984, it's all against the middle class. More government control (that is bribed by the rich), more regulations (that the rich can lawyer against), an anti rich ideology (that will only reflect on the middle class while the rich live in castles). They don't results, just tools to fuck their rivals with.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Her recent speech at Davos was interesting.

All of the hypocrisy aside. I couldn't help but be taken aback by her speech and what she said and the sheer lunacy of the comments. Like beyond that of AOC. Stop all world carbon emissions, instantly? Like literally no more fossil fuels. done, because we have to do what we can to save the planet, by grinding everything to a halt.

Economic downfall aside, the amount of people who would die globally from such an event due to food scarcity or starvation would make all of the famines and wars of the 20th century look benign in comparison.

Even if there was some sort of mass return to the land movement, ala Khmer Rouge style, the infrastructure and ability to produce the food demands of the modern world through traditional conventional farming doesn't exist anymore. The population density of any nation on earth has always been dominated by the availability of food, surplus food leads to surplus population growth, and the systems that mass transportation and fossil fuels has provided in terms of output have been incredible. So much so, that even with the whole population working towards the goal of food production, there wouldn't be enough ways to actually subsist to sustain the whole population and starvation would be the result. And that's not even considering inter-regional and international food shortages, because even if you are able to net produce this food you have no way to effectively transport it without transportation. Even centralized distribution like rail would not make it possible to feed the mass of the population without some form of industrialized preservation method.

So regardless of economic damage, in terms of human cost alone and food security. Greta's cure is worse than the disease.

That said, the other thing that went through my mind as I watched what essentially equated to a chicken little style tantrum at these world leaders is the fact that she seems to think that this is going to have some magical effect. Western cuckold politicians in government aside. Your addressing the rest of the world, and the rest of the world doesn't care. They don't care about your white guilt. They don't care about your climate change. These are the governments of people, who have likely over seen mass conflict, mass starvation, and grinding poverty, and will not stand idly aside and tell their countrymen that they must set aside their aspirations because some 17 year old Swede told them to.

It's mind boggling the level of cognitive dissonance.

Add in the fact that before we all sicken and die of malnutrition, actual starvation and lack of basic medicines like insulin (bye bye Type 1 diabetics within a few weeks because no fossil fuels means less to no pharmaceutical manufacturing, no ability transport of existing medicines in good time, after a point no hospitals worth a shit either) the population will slash and burn every single existing tree for fuel for fires to keep warm and to cook our food. The smoke from this will rquickly educe normal air quality to something that's going to kill off your asthmatic children and elders overnight and give the rest of us lung disease common to sub-Saharans who lean over cookfires all day.

And the animals? Anything will be fair game for food, once civilization falls beloved Rover and Tibbles, your kids' pet rabbits and guinea pigs will look good to eat for someone and how will you feed the millions of meat-eating pets anyway? Pet food manufacturing has gone. Transport has gone. Vet medicine also gone. Anything in the countryside gets snared and trapped because big agriculture has also gone along with the tech and distribution transport that make it work. Endangered species? Done, gone, as habitats slashed and burned overnight worldwide for fuel and to try to grow food and no resources to keep any of them safe as humans fight for simple survival. The fact is the poorer a nation is, the less they give a shit about the environment in a larger sense.

Greta's world would be a eco-holocaust. It's terrifying that no media allows anyone on air who can and will point these facts out.

 

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I think a lot of the posters in this thread might enjoy this kid totally owning Greta.

https://twitter.com/ItsJeffHudson/status/1192999958485635073

 

[Overly Serious]

I think a lot of the posters in this thread might enjoy this kid totally owning Greta.
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Well it's not Tom MacDonald but good for anyone that age who has the balls to speak out and try something. She'll be a better person than the timeline of herself where she chickened out of this. The Twitter replies are the predictable cavalcade of mean-spiritedness.

 

[vertexwindi]

>don't bully the greta she's just a poor kid
>this maga kid should've been aborted

Nice.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

I think a lot of the posters in this thread might enjoy this kid totally owning Greta.
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absolute cringe but still not as cringe as Greta.

 

[CWCissey]

Only I can make money off this!

Greta Thunberg to trademark 'Fridays for Future'

The climate change activist said people had tried to sell products and make money in the movement's name.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Honored guest]

Her recent speech at Davos was interesting.

tl;dr alot of people are going to die.

If you were looking to reduce climate change that would be the most effective and fast acting route to take. Now get in your pod, eat your bugs, and die quickly so that "we" can live.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Only I can make money off this!

Greta Thunberg to trademark 'Fridays for Future'

The climate change activist said people had tried to sell products and make money in the movement's name.

www.bbc.co.uk

The tism is for greta. Brb going to trademark "How dare you?!" and make some tardbux

 

[LetThemEatCake]

I like Greta Thunberg. She’s turned her Asperger’s into an advantage by adopting a no-bullshit attitude. She has an alluring charisma that makes her stand out. She makes a lot of the exceptional conservatives loose their shit with exceptional takes like “learn economics lol”. And she’s harnessed a notoriety that will help her beyond her activism. All whilst being but 17.

I mean sure, a lot of the credit is due to her parents being professional & highly esteemed actors, but she has carved out her own niche by now.

She hasn't done anything. She's a special needs puppet. She is run day to day in her activities by one Luisa Neubauer, a German green activist employed by the ONE Foundation who decides Greta's movements and put the words in her mouth. Everything Greta says that sounds coherent is written for her by adults and memorized. She's the Swedish equivalent of James Harries, but groomed to appeal to people who jizz over 'green issues' and are impressed by child performers.

Greta is useless offscript because she is a longstanding official sped of rather epic proportions. She went to a sped school in Sweden for the most delicate cases, because she has a long history of not just aspergers, but also selective mutism, obsessive compulsive disroder, ADHD, depression and anxiety plus an eating disorder at merely eight years old where she refused to eat and lost a lot of weight (10kgs in twomonths) according to her father) which for a small child who is supposed to be growing, is catastrophic.

This eating disorder explains her tiny, barely pubescent looking and undersized stature at 17. She's physically stunted from her longstanding refusal to eat and god knows what her mental functioning is like with aspergers, OCD, anxiety , ADHD and the effects of self-starvation. Basically it won't be normal or healthy although her aspergers and anxiety are harnessed well by adults to memorize scripts and fuel her 'concern' about things she doesn't have any perspective of, being a special needs kid who sees reality through a prism of mental and neurological disorders. Nobody knows what if any drug regime this child is on given this massive roster of diagnoses. She is probably on a daily pharma count that will make your eyes water to manage the ADHD, anxiety and depression and god knows what other comorbidities she suffers from the Aspergers. I wouldn't be surprised isf some form of epilepsy is in there too as it is frequent co-morbidity alongside OCD in people with this diagnosis.

Her school was set up for speds with so many problems that students didn't even have to go if you do not feel like it, which render her alleged 'school strike' meaningless. Greta's school day was always was entirely optional, she could opt not to go on a normal day or for weeks at a time and not be in any trouble for non-attendance. So 'Greta started a school strike' was not even possible, It was a stunt set up by Bo Thorén, a Swedish green activist from the group Fossil Free Dalsland who had contacted Greta's family after she won some kind of essay competition in which she bleated autistically about climate, which she was groomed into focusing her anxieties on.

Her parents used her to promote the mother's book about climate change., Her mother is a singer, who had no background in anything scientific, but she does have a lot of money and a lot of contacts in media and entertainments and a lot of knowledge as to set up a 'child star'. Her father is also heavily involved.

So we already have a group of four named adults with professed and clear political agendas - Luisa Neubauer, and Bo Thoren who use Greta to achieve their own ends and her mother Malena and her father Svante Thunberg who use her to sell books for them. How many other aduts are involved day to day in producing the show called 'Greta' is anyone;s guess.

Really Greta is no different from any other child star as the products of stage parents and adults who groom and exploit them to make money and push an agenda. Greta reads scripts and no doubt thrives on the idea - a false idea - that is she achieving something being flown and driven around the world on endless holidays, and has enjoyed going from a low status sped in a school for losers to being worshipped and photogrpahed and referred to in glowing terms by world leaders and all sorts of other people who should know way better but also have their own agenda to sell involving 'climate change' and all the lovely taxes they wish to impose to cure it.

But what happens to someone with lifelong neurological disorders and mental illness when they outgrow their child star appeal? And have to operate outside their team of people who run them likea presidential candidate to make them look as special as possible? We know what actually happens to discarded child stars and it isn't pretty for the most part.

I'm sure Greta will be offered far more financial opportunities than she ever deserved - opportunities that someone more capable of rational and independent though witha real educaiton and less the neurologically and mentally damaged child of rich celebrities would be better suited to - but how far can she really go on her own? Greta is thoroughly uneducated - and her usefulness is confinded to being a pathetic sockpuppet for people with agendas she isnt even capable of understanding.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

All of these eco-luddites should be forced to spend a whole year living solely on the meme-tier energy sources they peddle. Better yet, spend a year living with the Amish!

 

[Iron Hamster]

I like Greta Thunberg. She’s turned her Asperger’s into an advantage by adopting a no-bullshit attitude. She has an alluring charisma that makes her stand out. She makes a lot of the exceptional conservatives loose their shit with exceptional takes like “learn economics lol”. And she’s harnessed a notoriety that will help her beyond her activism. All whilst being but 17.

I mean sure, a lot of the credit is due to her parents being professional & highly esteemed actors, but she has carved out her own niche by now.

A little bitch being a little bitch is nothing new or special. My neighbor's daughter is a little bitch too. So what. Adults don't take shit from any disrespectful children.

 

[vertexwindi]

She hasn't done anything. She's a special needs puppet. She is run day to day in her activities by one Luisa Neubauer, a German green activist employed by the ONE Foundation who decides Greta's movements and put the words in her mouth. Everything Greta says that sounds coherent is written for her by adults and memorized. She's the Swedish equivalent of James Harries, but groomed to appeal to people who jizz over 'green issues' and are impressed by child performers.

Greta is useless offscript because she is a longstanding official sped of rather epic proportions. She went to a sped school in Sweden for the most delicate cases, because she has a long history of not just aspergers, but also selective mutism, obsessive compulsive disroder, ADHD, depression and anxiety plus an eating disorder at merely eight years old where she refused to eat and lost a lot of weight (10kgs in twomonths) according to her father) which for a small child who is supposed to be growing, is catastrophic.

This eating disorder explains her tiny, barely pubescent looking and undersized stature at 17. She's physically stunted from her longstanding refusal to eat and god knows what her mental functioning is like with aspergers, OCD, anxiety , ADHD and the effects of self-starvation. Basically it won't be normal or healthy although her aspergers and anxiety are harnessed well by adults to memorize scripts and fuel her 'concern' about things she doesn't have any perspective of, being a special needs kid who sees reality through a prism of mental and neurological disorders. Nobody knows what if any drug regime this child is on given this massive roster of diagnoses. She is probably on a daily pharma count that will make your eyes water to manage the ADHD, anxiety and depression and god knows what other comorbidities she suffers from the Aspergers. I wouldn't be surprised isf some form of epilepsy is in there too as it is frequent co-morbidity alongside OCD in people with this diagnosis.

Her school was set up for speds with so many problems that students didn't even have to go if you do not feel like it, which render her alleged 'school strike' meaningless. Greta's school day was always was entirely optional, she could opt not to go on a normal day or for weeks at a time and not be in any trouble for non-attendance. So 'Greta started a school strike' was not even possible, It was a stunt set up by Bo Thorén, a Swedish green activist from the group Fossil Free Dalsland who had contacted Greta's family after she won some kind of essay competition in which she bleated autistically about climate, which she was groomed into focusing her anxieties on.

Her parents used her to promote the mother's book about climate change., Her mother is a singer, who had no background in anything scientific, but she does have a lot of money and a lot of contacts in media and entertainments and a lot of knowledge as to set up a 'child star'. Her father is also heavily involved.

So we already have a group of four named adults with professed and clear political agendas - Luisa Neubauer, and Bo Thoren who use Greta to achieve their own ends and her mother Malena and her father Svante Thunberg who use her to sell books for them. How many other aduts are involved day to day in producing the show called 'Greta' is anyone;s guess.

Really Greta is no different from any other child star as the products of stage parents and adults who groom and exploit them to make money and push an agenda. Greta reads scripts and no doubt thrives on the idea - a false idea - that is she achieving something being flown and driven around the world on endless holidays, and has enjoyed going from a low status sped in a school for losers to being worshipped and photogrpahed and referred to in glowing terms by world leaders and all sorts of other people who should know way better but also have their own agenda to sell involving 'climate change' and all the lovely taxes they wish to impose to cure it.

But what happens to someone with lifelong neurological disorders and mental illness when they outgrow their child star appeal? And have to operate outside their team of people who run them likea presidential candidate to make them look as special as possible? We know what actually happens to discarded child stars and it isn't pretty for the most part.

I'm sure Greta will be offered far more financial opportunities than she ever deserved - opportunities that someone more capable of rational and independent though witha real educaiton and less the neurologically and mentally damaged child of rich celebrities would be better suited to - but how far can she really go on her own? Greta is thoroughly uneducated - and her usefulness is confinded to being a pathetic sockpuppet for people with agendas she isnt even capable of understanding.

You forgot the part where, due to the Facebook glitch, we found out as everyone was suspecting that Greta's FB account is pretty much a puppet for her father.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

You forgot the part where, due to the Facebook glitch, we found out as everyone was suspecting that Greta's FB account is pretty much a puppet for her father.

I did forget that piece of evidence! So to add - all the posts on social media in Greta's 'voice' are concocted by her father Svante Thunberg. God knows what Greta's real 'voice' even is. I doubt she even knows.

I wonder how it will be for her in the future, trying to seperate this persona created for her by activists from the real Greta. Again, it's the child star problem. They play a role for years, are famed and loved for it, then don't know who they even are when the role ends because they had no chance to develop like a normal adolescent.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

lol when I’d mentioned her making exceptional individuals make very exceptional takes, I did not think I would stumble upon one as quickly as I did with your own response.

I don’t see the merit to anything that you’re saying. None of her ailments have demonstrably stunted her own cognitive ability. In fact, if she’s had all the issues she has and those that you alluded to, then her attaining worldwide recognition for herself and her much-neglected cause is all the more extraordinary. To equate her with a typical child actor is disingenuous at best. She’s made her way into Times, attended world forums touching on or about global warming, and became eulogized by artists whom painted her on murals.

Her being influenced by adults is a misnomer; she’s a teenager. The schooling part just goes to show that mandatory curriculums are useless. Her getting scripted speeches is no different to most politicians with their speech writers. Cue Trump. Plus, most persons rely on pharmaceutics to function in today’s environment. Your point?

And speaking of the environment, you’re a denialist. Your views are in all likelihood more irrelevant than Greta’s.

Not sure if you're some old climate weirdo who has a protective boner for wittle sped girls, or naive and very young, or just trollin' away, but again:

1) Everything she has achieved has been set up by professional and well0-unded adult activists from day one.
2) She cannot answer any questions that require an answer that deviate from her memorized scripted response.
3)Her own father has attested to her neurological and mental illnesses, so it's not an 'if', it's a fact, and rather than proves her special, proves the point that she's a perfect programmable mark.
4)There is a difference between a special needs adolsecent girl with mental illness and neurological issues that are known to muddle thinking and limit perception and a 70 year-old President who has been around the block. Greta is naive, and has zero experience of the world outside her pampered parents, her precious sped school and now the pampered world of welheeled activism. She is an isolated individual with no understanding of the real world and its complexities. She thinks it's enough to shout and demand dumb shit, like 'stop all fossil fuels now'. She does nothing, achieves nothing but fame. And if you really don't understand the cognitive and social difference between kids and adults, and why kids cannot be leaders, god help you.
5) So Greta is places at conferences by Neubauer to bleat her scrpt and glare at Orange Man etc. So what? She hs nothing to contribute except autistic takes and adolescent personal ire. She is nothing but a teenage scold. She has zero qualifications and yes, education does matter. Some adolscent who hasn't been to school for yeears and when she did was in sped class alongside equally messed up children isn't someone anyone should be looking to for answers or leadership.
6) Get off the internet if you're so concerned, you're using electricity. Climate criminal,
5) 'Artists' have painted murals of a lot of people. including mass murderers and people who OD'd. It doesn't confirm their amazing intelligence or abilities, just that they are famous? What is your point? Is Cardi B someone we should listen to too because someone's made a mural of her somewhere?

 

[AnOminous]

So regardless of economic damage, in terms of human cost alone and food security. Greta's cure is worse than the disease.

Those people also wouldn't just consent to dying en masse. They'd fight for their lives and kill whoever was responsible for this bullshit. Those people would be strung up and it would make the French Terror look like a walk in the park.