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Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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Like I said to other people, assuming you are a young and healthy person with a strong immune system, these kinds of diseases tend to leave behind permanent damage even after you recover in any case the people who are claiming its not a big deal tend to not factor in the lesions and scaring left behind when you recover from the illness.
Here is a study of 110 SARS survivors 6 months after the onset of the disease.
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Talk about a blessing in disguise for the little island that could. As much as it sucks that Taiwan still remains in a tenuous position due to mainland pressure and now this threat to national health, the corona virus has given its people and allies a rare opportunity to vent their grievances without fear of repercussion. Even folks who usually try to avoid talking about China's territorial disputes have recently been showing a little more cheek with the way they joke and criticize the mainland's approach to the illness. What's China going to do, throw another hissy fit? A little hard to accomplish when there's not much room to wiggle in that quarantined sickbed.Because of international political bullshit Taiwan has not been able to get a lot of the information they need directly from a lot of these international organizations.
US House committee blasts ICAO over Taiwan issue
US House committee blasts ICAO over Taiwan issue - Taipei Times
The US House of Representatives’ Committee on Foreign Affairs on Monday denounced the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) for blocking Twitter accounts that criticized the organization’s continued exclusion of Taiwan during a global public health crisis. “The United Nation’s @icao...www.taipeitimes.com
The US House of Representatives’ Committee on Foreign Affairs on Monday denounced the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) for blocking Twitter accounts that criticized the organization’s continued exclusion of Taiwan during a global public health crisis.
“The United Nation’s @icao plays a valuable role in ensuring aviation security. But silencing voices that oppose ICAO’s exclusion of Taiwan goes against their stated principles of fairness, inclusion, and transparency,” the committee said in a Twitter post.
The tweet was a response to ICAO blocking critics, US news Web site Axios said in a report earlier on the same day.
According to Axios, Jessica Drun (莊宛樺), a non-resident fellow at the Project 2049 Institute, on Sunday noticed that ICAO had blocked her on Twitter, two days after she criticized the organization and the WHO for refusing to share knowledge with Taiwan’s authorities in a tweet.
“This means civil aviation authorities for one of busiest regional airports do not receive up-to-date info on any potential ICAO-WHO efforts. This is how a virus spreads,” Drun tweeted on Thursday last week.
There has been an outbreak of the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), which causes respiratory infection, in the city of Wuhan, China, where the virus was first detected last month.
The virus has since spread to other countries, reaching Europe and the US as a result of people traveling by air, sea and land, or direct contact with a carrier.
The airport Drun mentioned in her tweet was Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport, which was ranked the 11th busiest airport in the world in terms of international passenger traffic in 2018, handling more than 46.5 million passengers.
The Twitter accounts of several other critics were also blocked by ICAO, the Axios report said. However, it did not identify them, saying only that some were Capitol Hill staffers, analysts and an English teacher in Guangzhou who had posted similar criticisms.
Through his press shop Twitter account, US Senator Marco Rubio described ICAO’s action as “outrageous” and said it was “another sign that the Chinese Communist Party’s efforts to pressure and bully international organizations to bend to its demands are working.”
In another tweet posted on Friday last week, Rubio said that Beijing’s efforts to block Taiwan’s meaningful participation in international organizations such as the WHO have real effects on global responses to public health crises.
“We are especially reminded of this as the deadly coronavirus has reached Taiwan,” he tweeted.
ICAO Secretary-General Fang Liu (劉芳), a former Chinese aviation official, issued a reminder of the organization’s social media rules on Twitter, saying: “Irrelevant, compromising and offensive material will be removed and the publisher precluded.”
“Join us in improving advocacy for sustainable aviation development through fact-based discourse,” she tweeted.
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As Wuhan Virus Spreads, Taiwan Has No Say at WHO
As Wuhan Virus Spreads, Taiwan Has No Say at WHO
Chinese pressure keeps Taipei out of international organizations—putting everyone at more risk.foreignpolicy.com
Chinese pressure keeps Taipei out of international organizations—putting everyone at more risk.
On Wednesday, the World Health Organization (WHO) is convening an emergency committee of experts to assess whether the coronavirus outbreak that originated in Wuhan, China, constitutes an international crisis. But one of the countries affected, Taiwan, will not be represented.
Taiwan confirmed its first case of the pneumonia on Jan. 21, a potentially fatal illness similar to the deadly SARS outbreak of 2002-2003. The United States confirmed its first case the same day.
Although official statements before last weekend claimed the infection was still confined to Wuhan and only a few dozen cases, the number of reported human infections has grown dramatically, to more than 500 in China, and cases have also now been confirmed in Australia, Japan, Thailand, and South Korea. The seventeen people who have been confirmed to have died from the illness were in Wuhan, and many of the others infected had lived in or traveled there.
All of this comes just days ahead of Lunar New Year, celebrated across Asia, when China’s government estimates that people will take 3 billion trips to celebrate the festival with their families, in the largest annual human migration in the world. Many of the 1 million Taiwanese living in China will return to Taiwan during this period.
But Taiwan is no longer able to attend the World Health Assembly, WHO’s annual policy meeting. China has prevented Taiwan from attending since 2016, after President Tsai Ing-wen was elected for the first time. Since her election, Beijing has stepped up its existing military and economic pressure on Taiwan, viewing Tsai’s pro-sovereignty status as a veil for Taiwanese independence.
Under what other circumstances would 24 million people be excluded from representation in such an important organization? Beijing—and the WHO authorities that bend to its will—is allowing political and diplomatic sensitivities to interfere with the administration of global health and safety.
Beijing relies on a United Nations resolution passed on Oct. 25, 1971, recognizing the People’s Republic of China as the only legitimate representative of China to the U.N. China’s Taiwan Affairs Office has openly thanked WHO for excluding Taiwan, blaming an inaccurate representation of Tsai’s views on Taiwan’s independence.
These efforts border on petty, with Beijing at times refusing Taiwan’s right to host sporting events. While Taiwan is able to participate in the Olympic Games under the name “Chinese Taipei,” there are questions as to whether Beijing will even tolerate this when China hosts the Winter Olympics in 2022. The East Asian Olympic Committee bowed to Beijing’s pressure and canceled Taiwan’s planned hosting of the East Asian Youth Games in 2018.
Taiwan has similarly been excluded from the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), despite Taiwan’s largest airport receiving 46.5 million passengers in 2018. While Taiwan was able to attend the 38th ICAO Assembly in 2013 as a special guest, it was refused entry for the triennial assemblies in 2016 and 2019.
Beijing’s successful attempts to exclude Taiwan from international organizations have serious consequences.
While Taiwanese officials receive information on unfolding health crises such as coronavirus from counterparts in China or elsewhere, no formal mechanism exists to ensure that it is received in a timely manner.
Taiwan has a history of managing previous outbreaks in the region, from SARS to swine flu, well. It shouldn’t simply be a passive recipient of thirdhand information; it should have a seat at the table in the planning and preparatory meetings of WHO. Tsai herself said at a press conference on Jan. 22 that WHO should not exclude Taiwan for political reasons and find space to allow Taiwan’s attendance. By her side was Vice President Chen Chien-jen, who managed Taiwan’s response to SARS in 2003 as health minister. China was widely criticized for its opaque handling of the SARS outbreak, which claimed nearly 800 lives. It was only after two SARS-related fatalities that WHO agreed to send specialists to Taiwan.
But Taiwan’s experiences of late are limited to managing disease. As Tsai took to the stage on Jan. 11, reelected with a record number of 8.17 million votes, she had a message for the world: “All countries should consider Taiwan a partner, not an issue.” She’s right. Not only does Taiwan deserve to be a normal country, but there is much to learn from Taiwan.
Delegations of observers from all over the world, from Australia to Japan, the Czech Republic to the Philippines, traveled to Taiwan to witness the Jan. 11 elections. Tsai in her acceptance speech noted the election had received “unprecedented international attention” and she hoped in turn that “Taiwan will be given a fair opportunity to participate in international affairs.”
Taiwan has a long history of being bullied by China, a situation that many other countries are slowly waking up to. The solutions it has been forced to find to questions such as how to balance the demands of an increasingly authoritarian Beijing against the attractions of its lucrative market, how to manage relations with Washington when the United States seems to be retreating from the region, and how to defend its democratic system in the face of actors apparently intent on undermining it are ones that others badly need. As a result, Taiwan has weathered the U.S.-China trade war better than any other Asian tiger, despite the economic interdependence between Taiwan and China’s economies—without conceding ground to Beijing. While many other third-wave democracies have backslid, Taiwan is one of the freest societies on Earth, according to Freedom House. Taiwan has been on the front lines of these debates for decades.
China’s efforts to airbrush Taiwan’s existence and control the international narrative about the inevitability of unification are in part to convince the international community that Taiwan isn’t worth a war. International observers may hope that China may adopt a more flexible policy toward Taiwan over the next four years. But the internal logic in Xi Jinping’s China makes this unlikely. Instead, the next four years will likely see more pressure on Taiwan’s remaining diplomatic partners and less space for its international participation.
But Taiwan can flip that strategy. By encouraging more international support in areas like health that are clearly in the national interest of the United States or Australia, it can hope that China will continue to see that the costs of a messy, high-risk, protracted war outweigh the costs of patience.
In some areas, it will be difficult for other countries to navigate Beijing’s sensitivities about Taiwan. Negotiating trade agreements or conducting joint military exercises may be a step too far—but issues such as health and aviation have direct national interest consequences for many other players.
Only international support can resist China’s efforts to erase Taiwan. The coronavirus outbreak is deeply worrying but also a timely reminder that Taiwan needs to be readmitted to WHO and other international bodies. Rather than treat Taiwan as a problem to be resolved, it should be a partner in the challenges that liberal democracies will face over the decades to come.
-End of Article-TL ; DR: China's international fuckery over Taiwanese independence is causing active harm to the people of Tiawan
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Awful lot of words to say "lol calm down".
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The WHO is convening today to decide if it is a global emergency and make a declaration. Or not.
Unless there has been some clarification on the incubation period - and proof being in existence that you are infectious before symptomatic, then I doubt they can declare a pandemic, but might go as far as declaring it an emergency.
If it were infectious during incubation there really should be a lot more international cases known about by now. And they aren't showing up in the data from countries we have a high level of trust with for reporting.
In 2-4 days there will be clear evidence from an observational point if this is true or not; so they may hold back the trigger until then. Really, much depends on this being infectious nature being established.
Unless there has been some clarification on the incubation period - and proof being in existence that you are infectious before symptomatic, then I doubt they can declare a pandemic, but might go as far as declaring it an emergency.
If it were infectious during incubation there really should be a lot more international cases known about by now. And they aren't showing up in the data from countries we have a high level of trust with for reporting.
In 2-4 days there will be clear evidence from an observational point if this is true or not; so they may hold back the trigger until then. Really, much depends on this being infectious nature being established.
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We saw the same shit happen with the swine flu (H1N1.) We had a fairly nasty outbreak here. People get a cold and rush the emergency room because they're afraid that they have it. Congratulations, if you didn't have it before you have it now.
Panic will harm more people than 2019-nCoV itself, guaranteed.
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Coronavirus: Russland schließt Grenze zu China und stoppt elektronische Visa - DER SPIEGEL - Politik
In Chinas Nachbarland Russland ist bislang keine Infektion mit dem neuen Coronavirus bekannt. Die Regierung in Moskau lässt nun die Grenze schließen - und verhängt weitere Restriktionen für chinesische Reisende.
Some random information from Russia I just came across:
- Nobody's infected yet apparently.
- They've closed the border to China on Monday.
- They're not handing out any electronic travel visas to Chinese people right now.
- Russian people are advised to not travel to China at the moment, but there's currently no official restriction.
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Some news:
english.kyodonews.net
www.taiwannews.com.tw
Chinese-phobia?
Japan PM Abe calls for Taiwan's participation in WHO as coronavirus spreads
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe says that Taiwan's participation in the World Health Organization is necessary to effectively fight the spread of a new coronavirus.
Japan PM Abe calls for Taiwan's participation in WHO as coronavirus spreads
KYODO NEWS - 7 hours ago - 15:29 | All, World
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Thursday that Taiwan's participation in the World Health Organization is necessary to effectively fight the spread of a new coronavirus.
"It will be difficult to maintain health and prevent further infections in this region if (Taiwan) is excluded for political reasons," Abe said during a parliamentary session. "We will continue to make our country's stance clear at the WHO."
China regards Taiwan as a renegade province to be brought under its control, by force if necessary, and objects to the self-governing island's participation in the WHO and other international organizations as a different entity.
Abe made the remarks after an opposition party lawmaker said Taiwan was not allowed to participate in an emergency WHO meeting on the outbreak of the deadly virus in Geneva on Jan. 22.
Both Japan and Taiwan have confirmed cases of infections with the pneumonia-causing virus that has been spreading rapidly from the central Chinese city of Wuhan.
Between 2009 and 2016, Taiwan was allowed to attend the international body's annual meetings as an observer. But China has hardened its stance since Taiwan's independence-leaning President Tsai Ing-wen took office in 2016.
Japan has built ties with Taiwan on a nongovernmental basis over the years, with Taiwanese visitors accounting for about 15 percent of all travelers from overseas in 2019.
As of Thursday afternoon, the death toll from the viral outbreak in Wuhan has reached 170 and more than 7,700 cases of infections have been confirmed in mainland China.
Infections have also spread to other parts of the world, including Europe and North America.
Chinese-phobia grows in S. Korea amid coronav... | Taiwan News
Stores in Seoul open doors for Chinese tourists despite fears of virus and surging anti-Chinese atmosphere
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Chinese-phobia grows in S. Korea amid coronavirus outbreak
Stores in Seoul open doors for Chinese tourists despite fears of virus and surging anti-Chinese atmosphere
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By Chris Chang, Taiwan News, Staff Writer
2020/01/30 19:15
Residents scuffle with police officers during a rally against the government's decision to quarantine South Koreans returning from Wuhan. (AP photo)
TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — As South Korea discovered the 4th confirmed case of 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), businesses in Seoul are hesitating to open their arms to Chinese tourists.
A famous Michelin-starred Korean restaurant in Seoul brought its name into the news again on Wednesday (Jan. 29) with a "No Chinese allowed" sign affixed to its door. However, after less than a day, the sign was taken down amid criticism of racial discrimination, reported Joongang Daily.
The spread of 2019-nCoV has changed the atmosphere of this Lunar New Year in South Korea. Seoul's Myeongdong Shopping Street, which Chinese tourists frequent, teems with people wearing facial masks. One clothing store owner told Joongang Daily, "There is no way to forbid Chinese tourists from entering the shop, and we have to continue our business. Compared to the virus, losing clients is scarier, isn't it?"
Meanwhile, a petition for a temporary entry ban on Chinese coming to South Korea has accumulated more than 440,000 signatures.
The price of facial masks has also been going up: a non-woven mask skyrocketed from ₩110($0.09) to ₩1,398, as did the KF94 mask, from ₩1,482 to ₩2,690. Some online stores even canceled existing orders and resold the masks at a higher price, Joongang Daily said.
Even though there is no sign of a facial mask shortage, South Korean President Moon Jae-in's donation of 2 million facial masks to China still drew public outrage. Korean netizens were also amazed at the decision made by Taiwan's authorities to fine a Taiwanese businessman NT$300,000 (US$9,98for lying about his illness.
In light of the potential Chinese travel ban, South Korean writer-doctor Namgoong In, published a Facebook post in which he said the ban is unrealistic and would have a limited effect in the real world.
"Doing so will only cause illegal entries and let the epidemic grow out of control. Even when the Ebola outbreak was declared as a global health emergency by the WHO last June, the organization discouraged travel bans," he said.
Chinese-phobia?
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Hun Sen has ruled the country since Vietnam overthrew Pol Pot. When he saw communism's days were numbered, he bowed to the king and became a dictator hiding behind a facade of constitutional monarchy and democracy.
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Well, if I was gonna be the biggest possible dick I could be, and I was China...
I'd set up those Wu Flu Triage centers that will invariably need to be made once we start hitting 20 to 30 thousand people in Taiwan and fly every sick person I confirmed to the island and leave them there. If they "accidentally" escape into the Taiwanese population... oh well.
Weaponized Typhoid Marys. CHINA NUMBAH WON!
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True. But what info caused the panic? I'd ask you to consider that on Sunday night, it was reported that this virus spreads during incubation. That is the most alarming statement made in the history of viruses in the last 40 years. there has never been a coronavirus that does this.
So alarm based on an officials statement is highly acceptable. Now, is that statement true? If it isn't then the panic is entirely unwarranted. If it is, then the alarm and panic we are seeing is far below what it needs to be.
So yeah, compare apples to apples when you've got apples, but we got apples and bananas here according to some. To be verified. If we want to blame alarming reports, then we should go to the major news sources in every country - including the reputable ones that ran with the Chinese Health statement about the infectious nature during incubation. The greatest source of alarm isn't from FB, Social Media, Blogs or forums like this - it is this time the media, mainstream and otherwise running with dubious statements for effect. Shame on them for not asking more about it. Shame on WHO, China and the CDC for not providing any answers and when pressured, giving more dubious answers that assist in spreading alarm.
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So just like how Castro invented floridamen.
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Pretty sure anyone who condemns racism or misinformation about WuFlu is in China's pocket. Either that, or they're extremely suggestible.
It's times like these that teach us just how happily people will parrot things they heard just to feel a little less anxious.
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There is also a subclass of jaded watchers who are saying that nothing has happened recently, so nothing will happen now.
And to be fair to them, the alarmism over many, many things that do not warrant histrionics is a case for mocking the worst of the "end of the world" crowd.
Many people have tried to get logic/truth out of the Chinese reporting numbers. I do not see much use/veracity in them. Until we get secondary sources to back up Chinese claims, those numbers mean next to nothing.
The social media coming out of the country either paints a horror show (and is quickly censored), or it paints a rosy picture (and is pushed by the government). So what little information we are getting out is a steady stream of content promoted by the propaganda machine, briefly interrupted by content that brings a shadow of doubt over the narrative.
So, social media is largely out as a secondary source, because one is the government, and the other isn't really verifiable either for a multitude of reasons.
Until a suitable second source comes out, we just don't know how bad it is in China.
As for the rest of the world? I have said before that the developed world would not be hit very strongly. It would not surprise me if the R0 is significantly lower in the West than it is in China. After all R0 is a function based around the idea of the general population of a region.
Bottom line, if you do not have some basic emergency supplies, get them.
If you have emergency supplies, relax until either the Virus comes to your hometown, or we know more about our dear Corona-Chan.
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E: correcting a bit of grammar.
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Soo even more updates from Finland
Suomessa koronavirukselle altistuneita jo 24 - Kotimaa - Ilta-Sanomat
archived 30 Jan 2020 15:08:11 UTC
The article goes trough many things but main points to take away.
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A week ago or so I was sifting through Thai twitter tags on the virus and they seemed like they really really hated both the Chinese for the outbreak and their PM for letting Chinese tourists in. I get the feeling there is definitely huge negative sentiment towards China from all surrounding countries. I mean they are probably predisposed to hate each other anyway.Some news:
Japan PM Abe calls for Taiwan's participation in WHO as coronavirus spreads
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe says that Taiwan's participation in the World Health Organization is necessary to effectively fight the spread of a new coronavirus.
Chinese-phobia grows in S. Korea amid coronav... | Taiwan News
Stores in Seoul open doors for Chinese tourists despite fears of virus and surging anti-Chinese atmosphere
Chinese-phobia?
-Kelly Anne starts off by saying "we have good news!" she is talking about the opioid crisis and what Trump is doing to help you haven't missed anything on Corona-chan yet. Getting the feeling this might be the bread in the shit sandwich.
-Trumps drug Czar going over in more detail what he and Trump are doing to stop dangerous drugs more specifically opioids.
-He is talking about working with the Chinese to prosecute fentanyl production/distribution
-Now he's talking about stopping drugs coming over the southern border
-DOJ under Trump ramped up prosecutions domestically and internationally
-New HIDA(sp?) initiatives
-Admiral (jawa) Giroir talking about reducing opioid prescriptions
-everyone carry naxolone "everyone deserves a second chance at life"
-American longevity decrease have been stemmed and is turning around mortality rates continuing to drop
-When auto-plants close opioid dependence goes up we must consider those socio-economic issues
-Kellyanne again, talking about the multi-faceted approach to stopping opiod crisis including border control, stopping abuse of prescription drugs
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Plague Inc. maker: Don’t use our game for coronavirus modeling
Ndemic warns title is "not a scientific model" after spike in popularity.
Interest in the continued spread of the coronavirus has had an unintended side effect for UK-based Ndemic Creations, makers of Plague Inc. The eight-year-old game—which asks players to shepherd a worldwide pandemic so it can destroy all of humanity—has seen a spike in popularity in recent weeks, becoming the most-downloaded iPhone app in China on January 21 and in the United State on January 23, according to tracking firm App Annie.
The surge in interest has led Ndemic to issue a statement urging players not to rely on the app for information on staying safe from the coronavirus' current spread. "Please remember that Plague Inc. is a game, not a scientific model and that the currentcoronavirus outbreak is a very real situation which is impacting a huge number of people," the statement reads, in part. "We would always recommend that players get their information directly from local and global health authorities."
At the same time, Ndemic notes that Plague Inc. was "specifically designed... to be realistic and informative, while not sensationalising serious real-world issues." The company points to a 2013 CDC interview which highlights the online research that went into the game, as well as its use as "an educational tool—teachers and professors often get in touch to let me know how they used Plague Inc. to illustrate biological and economical concepts to their students."
This is not the first time Plague Inc. has benefited from real-world epidemic news; Ndemic also issued a statement during the 2014 ebola outbreak, noting the game's contributions to global health charities, for example. Ndemic notes that "whenever there is an outbreak of disease we see an increase in players, as people seek to find out more about how diseases spread and to understand the complexities of viral outbreaks."
FURTHER READING
China locks down 35M people as US confirms second coronavirus case
This time around, the added interest in the game has been large enough to take the Ndemic website offline temporarily "due to very high player numbers." Ndemic also tweeted that its "servers for multiplayer and custom scenarios are struggling to cope with very high player numbers."
Ndemic points players to the WHO for up-to-date information about the coronavirus. The disease now has more than 2,800 reported cases worldwide and has led to at least 80 deaths.
The surge in interest has led Ndemic to issue a statement urging players not to rely on the app for information on staying safe from the coronavirus' current spread. "Please remember that Plague Inc. is a game, not a scientific model and that the currentcoronavirus outbreak is a very real situation which is impacting a huge number of people," the statement reads, in part. "We would always recommend that players get their information directly from local and global health authorities."
At the same time, Ndemic notes that Plague Inc. was "specifically designed... to be realistic and informative, while not sensationalising serious real-world issues." The company points to a 2013 CDC interview which highlights the online research that went into the game, as well as its use as "an educational tool—teachers and professors often get in touch to let me know how they used Plague Inc. to illustrate biological and economical concepts to their students."
This is not the first time Plague Inc. has benefited from real-world epidemic news; Ndemic also issued a statement during the 2014 ebola outbreak, noting the game's contributions to global health charities, for example. Ndemic notes that "whenever there is an outbreak of disease we see an increase in players, as people seek to find out more about how diseases spread and to understand the complexities of viral outbreaks."
FURTHER READING
China locks down 35M people as US confirms second coronavirus case
This time around, the added interest in the game has been large enough to take the Ndemic website offline temporarily "due to very high player numbers." Ndemic also tweeted that its "servers for multiplayer and custom scenarios are struggling to cope with very high player numbers."
Ndemic points players to the WHO for up-to-date information about the coronavirus. The disease now has more than 2,800 reported cases worldwide and has led to at least 80 deaths.
It's important to remember that coronavirus is basically pneumonia, maybe even less dangerous than that. If your country is not a complete shithole, you will be provided with proper help (mostly respiratory), and your immune system will do the rest. It's not like Ebola, which killed people in 4 days with internal fucking bleeding. Just be vigilant, and you'll be fine.
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People are panicking, (I should know, I'm from Japan)
but when people say "Panicking" they don't mean running around screaming at the top of their voice,
more like, people refusing to go outside, buying all the necessary precautions like face masks, refusing to be near Chinese tourist (Yes they're quite distinguishable)
Yes, maintain this level of panic. I need it
but when people say "Panicking" they don't mean running around screaming at the top of their voice,
more like, people refusing to go outside, buying all the necessary precautions like face masks, refusing to be near Chinese tourist (Yes they're quite distinguishable)
Yes, maintain this level of panic. I need it
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Even viruses with capsids usually die outside a host within a few hours on the outside. Proteins are pretty sensitive to temperature, ph, etc, and contact with oxygen and water dissolves nucleic acids rapidly. The capsid is more to protect the viral genome from nucleases and the immune system of the host than to make it survivable on the outside. Or it facilitates entry. There's a lot of diversity there.
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