Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Found this thought-provoking indeed.

 

[Antipathy]

Exactly. It's Greta Inc. She's a product, not a person. Like I said, stage parents and NGO political handlers. Probably the best accountants and somewhere a business manager.

I'm just curious as to who holds the actual copyright, because if she doesn't hold her own name legally, that'd be fucking hilarious.

 

[CWCissey]

I'm just curious as to who holds the actual copyright, because if she doesn't hold her own name legally, that'd be fucking hilarious.

<Sov-cit intensifies>

 

[ditto]

I'm just curious as to who holds the actual copyright, because if she doesn't hold her own name legally, that'd be fucking hilarious.

Greta Thunberg applies for trademarks to protect climate change message (http://archive.li/25H9u)

She added that, with her family, she registered a non-profit foundation to manage the income from books, donations or rewards in a “completely transparent manner.”

She also stated that she intends to use the trademarks to protect a not-for-profit foundation that exists to manage the finances that Thunberg is gaining through book royalties, donations and prize money.

 

[Turnip_Head]

GRETA THUNBERG NOMINATED FOR 2020 NOBEL PEACE PRIZE
Young climate activist Greta Thunberg and the global environmental movement Fridays for Future, are nominated for the 2020 Nobel Peace Prize by two Swedish lawmakers, the statement said. According to the publication. two Swedish MPs Jens Holm and Hokan Swanneling came up with this initiative.
Nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize must be submitted by February 1st to the Norwegian Nobel Committee.

It surprises me how the Scandinavians continue to run the Nobel awards into the ground. At the start of the century I thought they were pretty alright. Now after Al Gore, Obama, and this, even if it’s just a nomination. They are kind of turning the awards into a joke.
Like the Oscars.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

Greta’s rhetoric forces attention toward a particular issue. If this inspires others to pick up the mantle and demand for change, it is not unlikely that the use of alternate energy en masse will arrive sooner rather than later.

I'm a trained geoscientist and I can tell you, without the shadow of a doubt, that green/alternative energy will not and cannot ever meet the energy demand of modern society. Are there great technologies like photovoltaics? Sure, but they're stuck in an efficiency doldrum alongside antecedant environmental harm from the rare earth element extraction needed to make the panels in the first place. Wind energy is farcical at best on large scale, it's too fickle compared to solar. At worst it's built along migration routes for endemic wildlife and blends birds worse than passenger pigeon hunters.

The only viable alternative (i.e. not combustion) electricity production source is nuclear fission. Fission produces little non-recyclable waste and what waste is produced is dense and easily sequestered compared to gaseous emissions.
Fusion is n+30 years away, don't even bring it up aside from speculation.

Also your name, FTFY

 

[Mola Ram]

It surprises me how the Scandinavians continue to run the Nobel awards into the ground. At the start of the century I thought they were pretty alright. Now after Al Gore, Obama, and this, even if it’s just a nomination. They are kind of turning the awards into a joke.
Like the Oscars.

The Peace Prize has been a bad joke since they gave one to Arafat, and that was in 1994.

 

[neverendingmidi]

It surprises me how the Scandinavians continue to run the Nobel awards into the ground. At the start of the century I thought they were pretty alright. Now after Al Gore, Obama, and this, even if it’s just a nomination. They are kind of turning the awards into a joke.
Like the Oscars.

Dude, Arafat won one in 1994. It's been shit for a loooooong time.

The Peace Prize has been a bad joke since they gave one to Arafat, and that was in 1994.

Ninja fucker.

 

[Antipathy]

The Peace Prize has been a bad joke since they gave one to Arafat, and that was in 1994.

The Peace Prize has been a joke since its inception and you cannot convince me otherwise.

Otherwise Oppenheimer would've had one, considering what the nuke did for the risk/reward analysis of war.

Greta Thunberg applies for trademarks to protect climate change message (http://archive.li/25H9u)

So basically her family has taken out a trademark on her name and made a "totally not for profit" organization based on exploiting their sped daughter for money.

The MOMENT Thunberg is 18, she is going to be cast aside like garbage, as her child factor will be gone. Only creepy pseudopedophiles will remain orbiting her until she either dies of some drug related crap, offs herself, or, best case scenario, lives a quiet life for ten years or so.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

There's another fellow bound up with puppeteering Greta, the think tank chairman and highly politically connected Ingmar Rentzhog. Some interesting details about his true involvement with the Greta Inc circus in this older Times piece:

Greta is just an ordinary 16-year-old Swedish schoolgirl whose fiery visions have convinced the parliaments of Britain and Ireland to declare a “climate emergency”. Her parents, Svante Thunberg and Malena Ernman, an actor and opera singer respectively, are just an ordinary pair of parent-managers who want to save the planet. Query their motives and you risk being accused of “climate denial”, or of bullying a vulnerable child with Asperger’s syndrome.


However, the Greta phenomenon has also involved green lobbyists, PR hustlers, eco-academics and a think tank founded by a wealthy former minister in Sweden’s Social Democratic government with links to the country’s energy companies. These companies are preparing for the biggest bonanza of government contracts in history: the greening of the western economies. Greta, whether she and her parents know it or not, is the face of their political strategy.

The family’s story is that Greta launched a one-girl “school strike” at the Swedish parliament on the morning of August 20 last year. Ingmar Rentzhog, the founder of a social media platform, We Don’t Have Time, happened to be passing. Inspired, Rentzhog posted Greta’s photograph on his own Facebook page. By late afternoon, the newspaper Dagens Nyheter had Greta’s story and face on its website. The rest is viral.

But this isn’t the full story. In emails, Rentzhog told me that he “met Greta for the first time” at the parliament and “did not know Greta or Greta’s parents” before then. Yet in the same emails, the media entrepreneur admitted to having met Greta’s mother “3-4 months before everything started” — in early May last year, when he and Malena shared a stage at a Stockholm conference called the Climate Parliament.
Nor did Rentzhog stumble on Greta’s protest by accident. He now admits to having been informed “the week before [via] a mailing list from a climate activist” named Bo Thoren.

Rebecca Weidmo Uvell, an independent journalist, has obtained an earlier email that reveals Thoren, the leader of a group called Fossil Free Dalsland, was searching for fresh green faces.

In February last year, he invited a group of environmental activists, academics and politicians to plan “how we can involve and get help from young people to increase the pace of the transition to a sustainable society”. In May that year, after Greta won second prize in an environmental writing competition run by the newspaper Svenska Dagbladet, Thoren approached all the competition winners with a plan for a “school strike” modelled on the walkouts by pupils after the shootings at a high school in Parkland, Florida, a few months before.

“But no one was interested,” Greta’s mother claimed, “so Greta decided to do it for herself.”

Fortunately, Greta’s decision coincided with the publication of Scenes from the Heart, her parents’ memoir of how working to save the planet had saved their family. Unfortunately, Malena omitted to tell her publisher that Rentzhog had commandeered Greta’s stunt.

“We had a problem,” recalled Malena’s editor, Jonas Axelsson. “Journalists asked if it was promotion for the book. It wasn’t at all. It was a nightmare.”

It was, however, a dream for Rentzhog. He combined Thoren’s plan, Malena’s musical fame, Greta’s uncanny charisma and his social media platform’s mailing list. And that turned Greta into a viral celebrity.

“I have not invented Greta,” Rentzhog insisted, “but I helped to spread her action to an international audience.”

Trained by former US vice-president Al Gore’s environmental group, the Climate Reality Project, Rentzhog set up We Don’t Have Time in late 2017 to “hold leaders and companies accountable for climate change” by leveraging “the power of social media”.

He and his chief operating officer, David Olsson, have backgrounds in finance, not environmental activism: Rentzhog as the founder of Laika Consulting, an investment relations company, and Olsson with Svenska Bostadsfonden, one of Sweden’s biggest property funds, whose board Rentzhog joined in June 2017. The platform’s investors included Gustav Stenbeck, whose family control Kinnevik, one of Sweden’s largest investment corporations.

Ingmar Rentzhog is a think tank chairman



Petter Skogar, the president of Sweden’s biggest employers’ association, is also on Global Challenge’s 10-person board. So is Anders Wijkman, a former co-president of the Club of Rome, former chairman of the environmental objectives committee and a recipient last February of Thoren’s call for youth mobilisation.

Among Global Challenge’s senior advisers is Catharina Nystedt Ringborg, a former chief executive of Swedish Water, an adviser to the International Energy Agency and a former vice-president of the Swedish-Swiss energy giant ABB. Ringborg is also a member of Sustainable Energy Angels, a green energy venture capital firm, the members of which are a Who’s Who of the Swedish energy sector. Its president and the chairman of its investment committee are former ABB personnel, as are four of its 17 members.

So, when Greta met Rentzhog, he was the salaried chairman of a private think tank owned by a former Social Democrat minister with a background in the energy sector. His board was stacked with powerful sectoral interests, including career Social Democrat politicians, union leaders, and lobbyists with links to Brussels. And his board’s vice-chairwoman, Ringborg, was a member of one of Sweden’s most powerful green energy investment groups.

Greta and her parents probably did not know this — and Rentzhog seems to have wanted to keep it that way. On September 2 last year, just after Rentzhog claimed to have stumbled on Greta protesting outside parliament, the Dagens Nyheter newspaper ran a long opinion piece on the need to force the greening of the global economy by “bottom-up” action against national governments, including “broad social mobilisation . . . reminiscent of what takes place in communities threatened by war”.

Greta’s mother was one of nine signatories, as were Persson and three other Global Challenge board members, though they cited other affiliations. Only Rentzhog admitted that he was associated with Global Challenge.

An English edition of the article identifies Rentzhog and Wijkman as its authors. Rentzhog claims that “many of us involved in Global Challenge were also involved” in writing it. He admitted to me by email that he showed Malena “the article and the other signatures, but not their titles for Global Challenge”.

Greta’s father, Svante, who now devotes himself to managing his daughter’s career, declined requests for an interview and refused to respond to a detailed list of written questions about Rentzhog and Global Challenge. Instead, he issued a three-paragraph statement through an intermediary, saying that “neither I nor Greta feel qualified to answer” questions about Rentzhog’s business connections and when the family might have known about them.

Svante also claims that “we have never worked with” Rentzhog’s social media platform or Global Challenge. Yet Greta served on the We Don’t Have Time advisory board between last November and January this year, and Malena signed a letter with four Global Challenge board members. When I asked Rentzhog if he had introduced Greta and her parents to other Global Challenge board members, he replied: “I don’t know. Maybe I did, but if Svante says no, maybe it was not connected.”

Svante refuses to answer questions about whether he and Greta have met members of the Global Challenge board. But Wijkman remembers.
Wijkman used to lead the Club of Rome, whose alarmist 1972 report, The Limits to Growth, has become a cornerstone of the “climate emergency” campaign. Last December, We Don’t Have Time and Global Challenge launched the Club of Rome’s latest vision of apocalypse, the Climate Emergency Plan. Greta, Rentzhog told me, was invited to the launch event, but was unable to attend as she was already booked to deliver a TED Talk.

The Climate Emergency Plan’s talking points are Greta’s talking points. “Around the year 2030, in 10 years, 252 days and 10 hours,” the Scandinavian Cassandra told British parliamentarians in April, “we will be in a position where we set off an irreversible chain reaction beyond human control that will most likely lead to the end of our civilisation as we know it.” The only way to save ourselves is to follow the Climate Emergency Plan and green the global energy business through massive government investment and emergency legislation.

Wijkman sees Greta as vital to pushing the “climate emergency” strategy on Europe’s political class. “We had many scientists and climate researchers who have been speaking in terms of emergency for a number of years,” he told me. “But it is only now, in the past couple of months, that the concept of emergency has been more or less accepted.”

He said Greta has been “instrumental” to this breakthrough. “Young people seemed not to pay much attention only half a year ago, but now obviously they do. So she has been a lightning rod or catalyst of this.”

Has Rentzhog been essential to Greta’s rise? “Yes, yes,” said Wijkman, though he finds it hard to quantify to what degree. “I don’t know how much he’s been influential. I think that Greta and her father and mother are quite skilled.”

Svante claims his daughter “acts independently of any organisation or individual”. Yet Wijkman says Greta has “good advisers”, such as climate change professor Kevin Anderson. Anderson claims only to “discuss” Greta’s ideas and “correct” her manuscripts, but Wijkman is certain he does more. “I know that he has given her a lot of advice in terms of substance,” he said.

In January, Rentzhog and We Don’t Have Time used Greta’s face and story in promotional materials for a new venture’s share issue. Rentzhog claimed the family knew, but Greta and her parents insisted they did not. They announced their association with Rentzhog was over — a curious statement, considering that Svante claims they had never associated with him in the first place.

Greta’s new press agent, Daniel Donner, works from the office of a Brussels lobby group, the European Climate Foundation. Still, We Don’t Have Time retweet Greta as if nothing has changed. In a way, nothing has. Whatever Greta or her parents know or think, her eco-mob increases the likelihood of legislation and investment that will make colossal profits for those such as Global Challenge, We Don’t Have Time and Sustainable Energy Angels, as well as for the British and American lobbyists and corporations clambering aboard her campaign.

For energy titans in Sweden, as elsewhere, saving the planet means government contracts to print the green stuff. Green energy lobbyists are using populist scare tactics and a children’s crusade to bypass elected representatives. But the destination is technocracy, not democracy; profit, not redistribution. Greta, a child of woke capitalism, is being used to ease the transition to green corporatism.
This is an edited version of a story that first appeared in Standpoint magazine

Greta Thunberg and the plot to forge a climate warrior

Greta Thunberg’s great American adventure has begun. Last Wednesday, she set sail from Plymouth like the pilgrims did, her Mayflower a zero-carbon but very expensive racing yacht; her goal not

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[Antipathy]

There's another fellow bound up with puppeteering Greta, the think tank chairman and highly politically connected Ingmar Rentzhog. Some interesting details about his true involvement with the Greta Inc circus in this older Times piece:

Greta Thunberg and the plot to forge a climate warrior

Greta Thunberg’s great American adventure has begun. Last Wednesday, she set sail from Plymouth like the pilgrims did, her Mayflower a zero-carbon but very expensive racing yacht; her goal not

www.thetimes.co.uk

"And the plot to forge a climate warrior"
I swear to fucking god that sounds so god damn unnerving it's absurd. I understand that this is supposed to be some kind of 'inspirational' thing but I mean it sounds like child soldiers.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

I just don't know how anyone can read that Times article or anything covering the same ground even in part, and not acknowledge that the child is the puppet of some major political players with their own personal agendas as well as her parents. And they call us 'denialists'.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Greta Thunberg: För mycket fokus på mig

Greta Thunberg vill att uppmärksamheten som riktas mot henne i stället vänds mot andra klimataktivister. – Vi har märkt att det finns ett enormt intresse var vi än dyker upp. Den möjligheten måste vi använda, säger hon.

www.aftonbladet.se

Greta Thunberg: Too much focus on me
Greta Thunberg wants the attention that is directed at her instead to be directed towards other climate activists.
We have noticed that there is a huge interest wherever we turn up. We must use that opportunity, ”she says.

Obviously I get a certain kind of attention and if I say something it will be headlines. That is not the case for many other climate activists, especially not on the earth's southern globe, Greta Thunberg continues at a press conference in Stockholm on Friday.
According to the 17-year-old, too much of the attention is directed towards her - something that removes focus from other activists, research and the climate issue at large.
That is why we are here today, for the people who need to be heard to tell their stories, she says.
Via the video link, the press conference was attended by three African climate activists and researcher Ndoni Mcunu from South Africa to discuss the climate crisis in Africa.

Was cut away
Among them was Ugandan counter Vanessa Nakate, who was cut from a picture last week where she posed with Greta Thunberg and several other climate activists at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
An incident that got a lot of attention on social media.
- It was frustrating. It felt like I wasn't being listened to. When I was there, I tried to get journalists to cover the climate issue in a broader perspective, so I was surprised that it happened, says Nakate.
Vanessa Nakate, the only dark-skinned of the five climate activists in the picture, was later cut again - but she believes the incident shows how African perspectives are often forgotten in climate issues.
- In my country, and throughout Africa, activists do not receive the same kind of attention. And we don't have the opportunity to tell our stories the same way.
South African Ayakha Melithafa and Kenyan Makenna Muigai, both climate activists, also joined via link.

"Children die"
After the incident, Nakate was supported by many - including Greta Thunberg.
- It was tough to see the experience she had and we tried to support each other through it, says Thunberg.
According to the UN, parts of Africa are at risk of severe global warming with drought and reduced harvests due to a warmer and drier climate.
The Save the Children organization is already describing a situation with extreme food shortages in Somalia, parts of Ethiopia and northern Kenya due to too little rainfall.
- The disasters following climate change are many in Africa and as a result, almost 52 million people have had an uncertain food situation on our continent. Children die and families split, says climate scientist Ndoni Mcunu.
Although many local farmers have already adjusted to become more resistant to climate change, food security is the most pressing issue, according to Mcunu.
Makenna Muigai, in turn, believes that the lack of education in her native Kenya is a major problem.
- People cannot afford proper education and are therefore not aware of what is happening. In Kenya, more young people need to take part in education to understand, she says.

Pretty to assume the media would want to focus less on their favorite climate mascot (until a new one comes around, that is)

 

[Slimy Time]

The MOMENT Thunberg is 18, be cast aside like garbage, as her child factor will be gone. Only creepy pseudopedophiles will remain orbiting her until she either dies of some drug related crap, offs herself, or, best case scenario, lives a quiet life for ten years or so.

Idk, with her growth and physical development (gross, I know) being as stunted as it is, they might be able to keep the grift going for a few more years after she becomes 18, just redo marketing to avoid her age and done. In 10 years, she will be exactly as you described though.

Greta Thunberg: För mycket fokus på mig

Greta Thunberg vill att uppmärksamheten som riktas mot henne i stället vänds mot andra klimataktivister. – Vi har märkt att det finns ett enormt intresse var vi än dyker upp. Den möjligheten måste vi använda, säger hon.

www.aftonbladet.se

Pretty to assume the media would want to focus less on their favorite climate mascot (until a new one comes around, that is)

"When a new one comes around".

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Greta Thunberg: För mycket fokus på mig

Greta Thunberg vill att uppmärksamheten som riktas mot henne i stället vänds mot andra klimataktivister. – Vi har märkt att det finns ett enormt intresse var vi än dyker upp. Den möjligheten måste vi använda, säger hon.

www.aftonbladet.se

Pretty to assume the media would want to focus less on their favorite climate mascot (until a new one comes around, that is)

Sorry but Bill Gates, Bono, George Soros, etc. paid good money to parade your autistic ass around so they can tighten their control of the masses even harder. They, not you, will decide when the world will stop paying attention to you.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

environmental harm from the rare earth element extraction needed to make the panels in the first place

It's just more shit that the retards don't have the capacity to understand, so instead of even trying they just get on with their epileptic dancing.

 

[Cyclonus]

We already have the perfect way to generate as much power as we want without releasing any greenhouse gases whatsoever, it's called nuclear power. That's why I don't believe the conspiracy theories popular in right wing circles (and this forum) that the whole global warming thing is ginned up nonsense by the environmentalists to push their agenda. There's no way they'd give the nuclear power industry that kind of opening.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Wasn't the nobel prize already called couple of months ago? Or is it for a consecutive second year?

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

We already have the perfect way to generate as much power as we want without releasing any greenhouse gases whatsoever, it's called nuclear power. That's why I don't believe the conspiracy theories popular in right wing circles (and this forum) that the whole global warming thing is grinned up nonsense by the environmentalists to push their agenda. There's no way they'd give the nuclear power industry that kind of opening.

But they don’t. They will shriek about fossil fuels but if you bring up nuclear, they shriek even louder. There’s a reason why Chernobyl for HBO came out last year, besides a swipe at the Russians.

 

[Cyclonus]

Roll on fusion power, that's what I say.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

But they don’t. They will shriek about fossil fuels but if you bring up nuclear, they shriek even louder. There’s a reason why Chernobyl for HBO came out last year, besides a swipe at the Russians.

Personally I think HBO's Chernobyl was a good show; the main take away being that a scientific apparatus that requires absolute truth to operate mixes very poorly with an authoritarian culture that is founded on lies.
Of course the Greens couldn't see that, what with their desire to control every minute aspect of the proles' lives. So "MUH 3.6 ROENTGEN, FISSION BAD" became the message of the show to them.

 

[Icasaracht]

Holy nickel the mod deleted my text pertaining that the thread is a rage-boner for a teen-aged girl who has accomplished more than themselves with autism!

I'm a trained geoscientist and I can tell you, without the shadow of a doubt, that green/alternative energy will not and cannot ever meet the energy demand of modern society. Are there great technologies like photovoltaics? Sure, but they're stuck in an efficiency doldrum alongside antecedant environmental harm from the rare earth element extraction needed to make the panels in the first place. Wind energy is farcical at best on large scale, it's too fickle compared to solar. At worst it's built along migration routes for endemic wildlife and blends birds worse than passenger pigeon hunters.

The only viable alternative (i.e. not combustion) electricity production source is nuclear fission. Fission produces little non-recyclable waste and what waste is produced is dense and easily sequestered compared to gaseous emissions.
Fusion is n+30 years away, don't even bring it up aside from speculation.

Also your name, FTFY

Oi, cock-mocking eunuch! Greta Thunberg approves of you hiding your wanton privates with a word salad!