Megathread TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

In the interests of "balance" I can laugh at troons in the upwards of 1/3 of all kf threads, or at the very least the big one in community watch. TERFs really only have this one, so unless you've discovered a troon that is themselves a TERF, or some little breh getting kicked out of TERFdom for deciding dyking out just isn't enough, these ladies don't need sympathy. TERFs made their bed, they should have to lie in it with troons, they deserve each other.
 
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InvertedDickEnthusiast said:
In the interests of "balance" I can laugh at troons in the upwards of 1/3 of all kf threads, or at the very least the big one in community watch. TERFs really only have this one, so unless you've discovered a troon that is themselves a TERF, or some little breh getting kicked out of TERFdom for deciding dyking out just isn't enough, these ladies don't need sympathy. TERFs made their bed, they should have to lie in it with troons, they deserve each other.
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be careful now

terfs getting raped by troons is apparently its own subgenre of creepy fetish porn
 
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Approx. 59 Robins said:
TERFs and their predecessors were pretty instrumental in the creation of the conditions required for troons to grow to the extent they did. Said troons use the exact same social justice tactics and tools that TERFs and their radfem predecessors used to use all the time, only to even greater success due to being considered "more oppressed".
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100% this.

Remember all the radfems' REEEing against gentlemen's clubs (UK) and men-only golf clubs/country clubs/student societies (US) since at least the 90's?
They wielded any institutional and government power they could get their hands on, to try and shame, thwart, or outright ban such voluntary associations.
Ask a radfem why they think men-only associations are "lItErAl vIoLeNcE" while women-only groups and such are good and necessary, the answer always comes down to a litany of "muh historic oppression".

The moral rule they carved out for themselves is this:
If you can present a compelling victimhood narrative for your identity group, then you get to veto other people's right to free association (and free speech etc.) and you yourself are exempt from scrutiny.​

And they were very successful in getting influential civil institutions (media corporations, university administrations, etc.) and various levels of government (via leftist parties) to adopt this new rule.

Then came along the troons, and presented an even more emotionally stirring victimhood narrative ("We're so vulnerable and oppressed that we can't help but kill ourselves at an alarming rate!"), quickly gained access to all the special privileges and support from the aforementioned institutions thanks to the groundwork laid by the radfems, and ultimately established themselves as the apex of the oppression pyramid.

So the same establishment that made sure entitled feminists can coerce their way into men's clubs, is now making sure that entitled troons can coerce their way into girl's sport teams.

Approx. 59 Robins said:
Maybe the radfems will realize that arguing purely with concepts like social justice and oppression olympics are bad ideas. I doubt they will though.
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I don't think they capable of realizing it.
Which is what makes many TERFs such tragicomical lolcows.

Typical Troon-vs-TERF online exchange (paraphrased):
Troon: "You're erasing our right to exist! LiTeRaL vIoLeNcE! Bow before our superior victimhood narrative!"​
TERF: "B..b...but look here, let me peddle our tired old victimhood narrative! Patriarchy! LiTeRaL vIoLeNcE! You troons must all be MRAs in disguise!"​

They can't think or debate in any other terms.
They can't accept that they've been decisively beat in the Olympic discipline of victimhood narratives, and they aren't able to adapt their moral framework accordingly.
 
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I've seen the feminists of various stripes doing this weird shit before, I honestly can't think of a similar male equivalent to this gross sentiment;
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:story:....ok fishy

The whole thread is amazing, of course any criticism of women is deleted by the mods as per;

r/GenderCritical - The "fish" thing fucking infuriates me

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Video is of a toddler (male) hugging another toddler (female) #NoMercy
 
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If TERFs really wanted to live by their delusions and online posts, they'd need to relocate to a secluded island or establish their own Terfdom, because the deeper they go, the less compatible with a normal society they become. I know some irl and she's so manipulated by this crap she claims to be a lesbian by choice. And then she admits to being grossed out by vaginas- and says she could buy a picture book of labia to get over it. All of that because she hates men. Can you imagine men being so misogynistic they'd look at dick pics every day to "get over it" enough to be able to only interact with other men? Absolutely insane.

Insanity aside, after reading this thread, I think it's safe to say a lot of these women are secretly trans men (or they at least considered it) who are in TERF community to keep themselves in check. Sad, but also hilarious. Hell, some are openly trans.

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Non-binary crap aside, at least she doesn't sound angry?
 
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People, this is the first time I've heard Terri Strange talk about her family and her relationship to her father. Before this the only thing I knew about her from her videos was that she grew up without her biological mother. She says that he hated her father's girlfriends and at times hated her father too.


Perhaps this is why she resents the idea of sex and being sexual with men? Because it's a Freudian Electra Complex, ie, she couldn't stomach the idea of her father being sexual with all these other women who weren't her mother?

In this part she turns into Terrence McKenna and admits being a pothead: "It's really fucking hard in this culture to just go up to a tree and fucking talk to it. You get hated on for that."


Approx. 59 Robins said:
TERFs and their predecessors were pretty instrumental in the creation of the conditions required for troons to grow to the extent they did. Said troons use the exact same social justice tactics and tools that TERFs and their radfem predecessors used to use all the time, only to even greater success due to being considered "more oppressed". Maybe the radfems will realize that arguing purely with concepts like social justice and oppression olympics are bad ideas. I doubt they will though.
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This argument is repeatedly made by simplistic MRAs and conservatives and is frankly pure nonsense. This whole "radical feminism created the conditions for trannies to exist", well, what about all the trannies who don't use feminist rhetoric to justify themselves, and instead prefer to use libertarian post-humanist rhetoric to justify trooning out? Are you gonna say that "libertarianism/technoanarchism created the conditions for trannies to exist, so they deserve the extreme far left backlash they are getting from SJW troons who are also hardcore communists/ancaps"? Of course not, because you're that opportunistic to single out feminism for blame. Trannies are a psychiatric/medical invention, not a feminist one. Trannies as a psycho-medical invention go all the way back to the 1920s, decades before radical feminism. The psychiatric establishment created the conditions for trannies to exist and proliferate in the world, not feminists. To give another example, how do you explain the proliferation of trannies in Asian or Latin countries that didn't have a huge radical feminist wave? (For example, did you know that breast enhancements by means of silicone were pioneered in the East? We took that new medical technology from them.) This alone shows that the "feminism laid the groundwork for trannies" theory is nonsense. If trannies were simply an ideological invention like feminism they never would've gotten legal hold the way they have, they would still be fighting an ideological battle for justification like other ideological groups had to do to gain social clout. All the political leverage trannies have as a social group comes from being backed by the medical and pharmaceutical establishment, with them all only recently admitting that this medical/psychiatric charade was just a front to gain clout. I wholeheartedly believe in the TRA/TERF horseshoe theory and that these two groups deserve eachother, but rather because they are both social justice cults who are 100% convinced of their righteousness and believe they can do no wrong, so the means justify the ends. However, how they actually came about and gained political clout is a very different trajectory and blaming feminism for the other is some post hoc bullshit. You're just letting an powerful, vested, globalized, greedy and immoral medical industry off the hook by perpetrating this narrative. Seriously dude, go and watch that new documentary The Pharmacist and connect the dots, the same shit they did with OxyContin they are now doing with HRT. Same shit, different drugs.
 
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Are you gonna say that "libertarianism/technoanarchism created the conditions for trannies to exist, so they deserve the extreme far left backlash they are getting from SJW troons who are also hardcore communists/ancaps"? Of course not, because you're that opportunistic to single out feminism for blame.
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lolbertarians and anarchoanythings get what they fucking deserve, so yeah, I'll say that.
 
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This argument is repeatedly made by simplistic MRAs and conservatives and is frankly pure nonsense. This whole "radical feminism created the conditions for trannies to exist", well, what about all the trannies who don't use feminist rhetoric to justify themselves, and instead prefer to use libertarian post-humanist rhetoric to justify trooning out? Are you gonna say that "libertarianism/technoanarchism created the conditions for trannies to exist, so they deserve the extreme far left backlash they are getting from SJW troons who are also hardcore communists/ancaps"? Of course not, because you're that opportunistic to single out feminism for blame. Trannies are a psychiatric/medical invention, not a feminist one. Trannies as a psycho-medical invention go all the way back to the 1920s, decades before radical feminism. The psychiatric establishment created the conditions for trannies to exist and proliferate in the world, not feminists. To give another example, how do you explain the proliferation of trannies in Asian or Latin countries that didn't have a huge radical feminist wave? (For example, did you know that breast enhancements by means of silicone were pioneered in the East? We took that new medical technology from them.) This alone shows that the "feminism laid the groundwork for trannies" theory is nonsense. If trannies were simply an ideological invention like feminism they never would've gotten legal hold the way they have, they would still be fighting an ideological battle for justification like other ideological groups had to do to gain social clout. All the political leverage trannies have as a social group comes from being backed by the medical and pharmaceutical establishment, with them all only recently admitting that this medical/psychiatric charade was just a front to gain clout. I wholeheartedly believe in the TRA/TERF horseshoe theory and that these two groups deserve eachother, but rather because they are both social justice cults who are 100% convinced of their righteousness and believe they can do no wrong, so the means justify the ends. However, how they actually came about and gained political clout is a very different trajectory and blaming feminism for the other is some post hoc bullshit. You're just letting an powerful, vested, globalized, greedy and immoral medical industry off the hook by perpetrating this narrative. Seriously dude, go and watch that new documentary The Pharmacist and connect the dots, the same shit they did with OxyContin they are now doing with HRT. Same shit, different drugs.
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By "TERFs and their predecessors were pretty instrumental in the creation of the conditions required for troons to grow to the extent they did", I meant more-so that the incredibly liberal climate that enabled transgenders to grow from being a fringe niche or a paraphernalia to a full-blown mainstream group was, in part, fostered by TERFs and their predecessors, who were all in favour for pushing in the liberal, progressive social politics that made the political climate more hospitable for transgenders. They weren't the sole reason, as pharmaceutical companies wanted to help them gain traction to have more lifelong customers (Which you did indeed point out), as well as LGBT activists who had recently succeeded in getting gay marriage legalized and needed a new social movement to fight for, as an activist without issues is an activist without a job.

What TERFs and Radfems did in general was utilizing the progressive stack to it's fullest. They used the idea that "women are more oppressed than men" as both justification for their policies, and to shut down people that disagreed with their policies by calling them "sexist". This then led to transgenders taking this exact method, and using it to declare themselves as "even more oppressed than women", and shut down any criticism of their policies that any opposition had (whether it was radfems or conservatives) by calling them "transphobic". Generally, having an enemy effectively use your own tactics against you is generally a point where you should reconsider if said tactics are a good idea.

As for your point about trannies going all the way back to the 1920's, they were still INCREDIBLY fringe back then, and didn't really hit the mainstream until recently. Compare and contrast to the Suffragettes of the 1910's, who were a more militant form of the Suffragists, so you could argue that they were radfems. Now, granted, the suffragettes were fighting for the women's right to vote, which is a noble cause, but utilizing bombings and arson to achieve your goals is hard to not consider radical. As for trannies in the East, I don't know enough about them to make any solid claims, but I'd still imagine that they're completely different to trannies you get in the West, in terms of social behaviours at least.

I may have misrepresented my argument by making it seem like TERFs and Radfems were solely to blame, which they weren't. Pharma companies and LGBT activists were just as, if not more, guilty for letting the issue become this big. But Radfems can't exactly wash their hands completely of the issue.
 
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