Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Back when the human genome was first sequenced (God I'm old) there was a big push to sequence the different human phenotypes (Is that right? Feels like it is...) AKA the various races of humanity. Initial papers talked about trying to track the genome sequence for certain birth defects inherent in different races (Sickle-Cell was a big focus) as well as talk about muscle and bone density and the like.

Then the "All the races are the same there is not difference between the races!" mantra hit hard, and I wonder if they've stopped doing that research because it's not politically correct and if all the research was memory-holed?

Oh no that research never stopped. STEM has quite a beef with sociology due to that actually. Because ethnic differences have been accounted for in medical papers, much to SJWs' dismay.

Btw this is far from the only virus that affects one race more than the other. Indeed the impmementation I talked about before was the priorization of tests for certain diseases based on ethnicities upon multiethnic populations, because when you have multiple diseases with similar symptoms knowing which tends to fuck up your patient more so you can check it first can save lives. Dunno if it was ever implemented in hospitals but the studies sure were made.

This is no sign of artificial design though. Generally speaking viri target the receptors of the local population. If the receptors they target is one of the MANY MANY MANY proteins that significantly varies based on ethnicity then the virus is significantly more efficient at infecting one particular ethnicity. Basic bio really. Coronaviri are native to asia, it stands to reason they'd target asians. That said, it's too early to say that's what's happening. Honestly chinese mishandling of the situation seems to be the strongest issue here. Hell, just look at the germans. Both spanish confirmed infections were germans on vacation, both of which caught it from one of the families infected in germany (both from the same one) who in turn all got it from a single tour guide. I'd say that's above average spread for how little time it's taken the virus to jump around like that. So it seems to me it ain't just asians that are weak to it. Frontiers have always been a pain to cross so we'll see once it gets past one how well it does. I'm betting africa will have the key since they're apparently not closing airports like everyone else.

Genomics has rapidly advanced and as provided some great data for reconstructing human historical and prehistorical migration patterns and such (for example, providing evidence of human-Neanderthal interbreading); it's been harder for that information to be applied to biomedical science.

There is no actual evidence of neardenthal-sapiens interbreeding that was bullshit. Quick explanation: what there is evidence of is that neardenthals were more closely related to sapiens than previously thought, NOT that they interbred. If two supposed "species" turn out to be able to produce fertile offspring, then they are the same species. This is why canis lupus and canis familiaris got rebranded to canis lupus lupus and canis lupus familiaris, had the evidence actually proven interbreeding we would be classifying it as homo sapiens sapiens and homo sapiens neardenthalensis. We ain't doing that, cuz we only got a common ancestor, and if they had sex (which is likely) and had children (which is highly unlikely) then we sure have no evidence suggesting the kids were fertile (like mules basically), then again same can be said of the hasburgs...

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The file name of this image in the NYT article

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Is it like another Holocaust? No? Try again! Its Virus Racism, that sounds better!

eta forgot image lol

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

There is no actual evidence of neardenthal-sapiens interbreeding that was bullshit. Quick explanation: what there is evidence of is that neardenthals were more closely related to sapiens than previously thought, NOT that they interbred. If two supposed "species" turn out to be able to produce fertile offspring, then they are the same species. This is why canis lupus and canis familiaris got rebranded to canis lupus lupus and canis lupus familiaris, had the evidence actually proven interbreeding we would be classifying it as homo sapiens sapiens and homo sapiens neardenthalensis. We ain't doing that, cuz we only got a common ancestor, and if they had sex (which is likely) and had children (which is highly unlikely) then we sure have no evidence suggesting the kids were fertile (like mules basically), then again same can be said of the hasburgs...

I thought the Neandrethal died out because his women had big booty and big ol' titties and he was made of tasty tasty meat.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Apologies if this was already posted

Japan succeeds in isolating Wuhan coronavirus in step toward vaccine and test kit | The Japan Times

The National Institute of Infectious Diseases will also offer the isolated virus to researchers and companies.

www.japantimes.co.jp

Japan succeeds in isolating Wuhan coronavirus in step toward vaccine and test kit
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The National Institute of Infectious Diseases said Friday that it has succeeded in cultivating and isolating the new coronavirus, first reported in the Chinese city of Wuhan, from a person in Japan who has been confirmed to have the virus.
Using the isolated virus, the institute will start work to develop a vaccine and a drug for the coronavirus, as well as a test kit capable of quick diagnosis. It will also offer the isolated virus to researchers and companies, while trying to discover the infection mechanism and promoting research on the toxicity of the virus.


The isolated virus’ gene sequences 99.9 percent matched those released by the Chinese government, according to the Japanese institute.
In the isolated virus, there was no gene mutation leading to higher infectiousness or toxicity, the institute said.

 

[Slap47]

I don't understand how academics can just take Chinese statistics at face value.

 

[Arctic Fox]

academics

Answered your own question, honey.

 

[not william stenchever]

I don't understand how academics can just take Chinese statistics at face value.

Many western academics these days are purer communists than those who infest the halls of the Chinese Communist Party

 

[dopy]

I don't understand how academics can just take Chinese statistics at face value.

academics take their own words at face value. fucked up but true.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Apologies if this was already posted

Japan succeeds in isolating Wuhan coronavirus in step toward vaccine and test kit | The Japan Times

The National Institute of Infectious Diseases will also offer the isolated virus to researchers and companies.

www.japantimes.co.jp

Ah shit, didn't even get past a few sparse dots outside of china and the cure's already at 70%. Should've gone for silent "no healthy people left in the world" then rushed total organ failure. Guess I'll replay neurax worm to relax.

Jokes aside, coronaviri are notoriously crappy at vaccinating, so while it's a step, it's not the end. Far from it.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

these days

I have bad news

 

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There is no actual evidence of neardenthal-sapiens interbreeding that was bullshit. Quick explanation: what there is evidence of is that neardenthals were more closely related to sapiens than previously thought, NOT that they interbred. If two supposed "species" turn out to be able to produce fertile offspring, then they are the same species. This is why canis lupus and canis familiaris got rebranded to canis lupus lupus and canis lupus familiaris, had the evidence actually proven interbreeding we would be classifying it as homo sapiens sapiens and homo sapiens neardenthalensis. We ain't doing that, cuz we only got a common ancestor, and if they had sex (which is likely) and had children (which is highly unlikely) then we sure have no evidence suggesting the kids were fertile (like mules basically), then again same can be said of the hasburgs...

I don't follow this chain of reasoning.

Sub-Saharan Africans do not share the same quotient of specifically Neanderthal ancestry that other modern human groups do, having either no such ancestry at all, or possibly, some tiny fraction (<0.5% as opposed to 4-10x that elsewhere), a tiny fraction that would have not originated in Africa but instead came back with migration from those outside Africa.

I haven't bothered to follow the literature about when interbreeding is estimated to have occurred, but even that's pretty well known.

He literally, directly, and unambiguously compared keeping Typhoid Marys out of other countries to the Holocaust...then turned around and said "No, you just THOUGHT I was comparing this to the Holocaust, but I wasn't."

Shouldn't have apologized.

That said, as good an intelligence operation as the Chinese empire has inside the United States, it never hurts to just be able to buy access to the latest American military hardware.

 

[Evilronald]

China had and still somehow could have the potential to be a top notch first world country. Makes you think how backwards communism is.

Im not sure they could be a first rate country unless their culture, political system, and mindset changed. Chinese generally feel no obligation towards their countrymen and are always cutting corners and putting dangerous shit in their products. My uncle was telling me how the Chinese government had a protein requirement in their milk, so farmers who were unable to meet that through their feed gave their cows a chemical that’s poisonous to people if consumed... for a country that’s supposedly thinking 100 years ahead their citizens definitely aren’t.

 

[afternoon_tea]

Im not sure they could be a first rate country unless their culture, political system, and mindset changed. Chinese generally feel no obligation towards their countrymen and are always cutting corners and putting dangerous shit in their products. My uncle was telling me how the Chinese government had a protein requirement in their tard cum, so farmers who were unable to meet that through their feed gave their cows a chemical that’s poisonous to people if consumed... for a country that’s supposedly thinking 100 years ahead their citizens definitely aren’t.

It was melamine, and they put it directly in the milk and infant formula, fucked up shit.

 

[Fougaro]

Apologies if this was already posted

Japan succeeds in isolating Wuhan coronavirus in step toward vaccine and test kit | The Japan Times

The National Institute of Infectious Diseases will also offer the isolated virus to researchers and companies.

www.japantimes.co.jp

So if the Nips actually succeed, it's not "CHYNA NUMBAH WAN!", but rather "Nippon ichi!"?

 

[Evilronald]

I see people say this kind of dumb shit all the time.

First of all, those people had jobs, they weren't all unemployed robots hanging around the eCig shop with their dongles out. These people are going to be involved with everything from transportation to running the electrical grid to working at stores. That's going to be, say 28-47 million jobs that are suddenly empty. That's also 30-50 million corpses that have to be cleaned up in less than a few months, with all the associated diseases and resource allocation and effort by the living.

This isn't going to hit peasant villages that kill everyone that comes within a mile, or basements full of neets, or neckbeards who never leave their apartment, this is going to kill people who work with the public or who cannot take days off due to "mission essential" as well as government officials. A LARGE percentage of your medical system will have been part of the casualties, further dislocating your infrastructure.

You're talking about 30-50 million jobs suddenly no longer putting in tax money, going to work, and in some cases they have to figure out how to replace those people.

In the meantime, you have hundreds of millions sick, for weeks, no longer going to their jobs.

Using FEMA and COG metrics, if you had 30-50 million dead, you had 300-500 million SICK for weeks. With more logistics fuckups. Then you have people who starved to death, died in the panic, were killed by mobs, who died of other reasons than the plague (Human stupidity will be the number one killer out of all of these), then you have the millions who's immune systems were compromised and died of other diseases, then you have the suicides, the murders, and the just plain acts of god.

So, that means that if China suffers 30-50 million dead, and hundreds of millions of sick, their logistics disrupted in a way that will take months or years to fix, their GDP and economy fucking wrecked, entire cities abandoned, the ruling politically party maybe fatally wounded, MOUNDS OF DEAD, with the secondary waves of disease and death from the bodies, lack of water, lack of power, lack of food, lack of basic survival needs.

50 million might not seem that much when you look at the fact they have 1.36 billion, after all, it's only 3.6%, right?

Well, to use your example, that's 1,080 dying in your town alone. Now, you've got to safely dispose of those bodies, come up with a way to replace them all NOW, and remember, it isn't the recluses and the like (And Methican Americans are notoriously hard to kill, so don't think it's gonna be largely them) it's going to be people working in the stores, government, police, medical, power plants, shipping and receiving.

I agree with "Don't get excited yet, she's still dancing at the strip club" but she's always working the fuck out that stripper pole.

But don't downplay it like if those 30-50 million die it actually won't matter because miraculously they won't have had any part in running the country, making sure things work, and will magically teleport into graves.

Totally agree with your point. “The NEET will inherit the earth” then promptly starve to death for lack of legitimate skills for growing food or functioning at anything useful.

 

[God of Nothing]

So if the Nips actually succeed, it's not "CHYNA NUMBAH WAN!", but rather "Nippon ichi!"?

Does it even need to be said? Japan has been our Chigga since the end of WW2. Place has got its problems but it could've gone way worse if not for Uncle Sam spanking its flat ass and showing them how to run shit.

 

[Stoneheart]

Hell, just look at the germans. Both spanish confirmed infections were germans on vacation, both of which caught it from one of the families infected in germany (both from the same one) who in turn all got it from a single tour guide. I'd say that's above average spread for how little time it's taken the virus to jump around like that. So it seems to me it ain't just asians that are weak to it. Frontiers have always been a pain to cross so we'll see once it gets past one how well it does. I'm betting africa will have the key since they're apparently not closing airports like everyone else.

the tour guide was in Japan, Germany was from a company meeting. the cases right now are all pretty tame.
Im pretty sure China is just reporting Cases that need hospital care, so the numbers look alot worse than they are.

 

[Fougaro]

Does it even need to be said? Japan has been our Chigga since the end of WW2. Place has got its problems but it could've gone way worse if not for Uncle Sam spanking its flat ass and showing them how to run shit.

Dubs confirm it.

 

[Ow The Edge]

What is up with the Chunks and breeding these new viruses every few years? Is there some secret bunker where they CRISPR them up from political dissidents and Muslims?

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

What is up with the Chunks and breeding these new viruses every few years? Is there some secret bunker where they CRISPR them up from political dissidents and Muslims?

in addition to them eating everything, their hygiene is really bad. People don't wash their hands, spit wherever, and let their kids go to the bathroom wherever. Western cities in the 19th century were constant hotbeds of disease because of this type of behavior.