[16-Jan-2020] DarksydePhil is filing for bankruptcy (general thread) - and has officially done so on January 31 2020, meaning a lot of his finances have become public

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What will happen with his case following the 341 meeting?

  • Still gets Chapter 7

    Votes: 126 18.1%
  • Changed to Chapter 13 and ultimately fails to make his required payments

    Votes: 218 31.3%
  • Chapter 13 and successfully completed all payments

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Complete dismissal of the bankruptcy

    Votes: 334 47.9%

  • Total voters
    697
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Did Phil actually

Is Dave doing anything really dumb even a question at this point? We have evidence that this man is so dumb that he can screw up making money online. He's so dumb that he buried himself in 6 figure debt. He could have lived in his parent's basement, banked YouTube money for like 3 years, and pay for a small house outright.

No, snort, stupid thought that he had to do the boomer meme thing and get a 6 figure house and thought that internet money would last for his entire mortgage. He is really this stupid. The man has achieved meme-hood.
 
Well, he also listed that he's not sole proprietor of a business when he is, that he doesn't have a cat when he does, and that he had $0 gross income during the month of January when he got his December payments from Twitch/YT and was also getting tips. He listed a lot of things wrong.

I just don't think it's his living expenses, because that would mean he's deducting them twice, and, while Phil is pretty dumb, I don't think he's that dumb.

With respect, aside from the things you mentioned he listed wrong (check the Analysis thread for more), he also conflated gross and net income. As in, he correctly listed his gross income on the income report, but he used the net income to calculate his yearly income and somehow came up with around $68k for 2019, despite listing ~$55k for the 6 months requested on the income report.

He is absolutely that dumb. There's literally no other way he gets anywhere near $5000. Much less the $9000 he listed for July 2019.
 
With respect, aside from the things you mentioned he listed wrong (check the Analysis thread for more), he also conflated gross and net income. As in, he correctly listed his gross income on the income report, but he used the net income to calculate his yearly income and somehow came up with around $68k for 2019, despite listing ~$55k for the 6 months requested on the income report.

He is absolutely that dumb. There's literally no other way he gets anywhere near $5000. Much less the $9000 he listed for July 2019.

he's playing semantics with the government, good luck with that
 
With respect, aside from the things you mentioned he listed wrong (check the Analysis thread for more), he also conflated gross and net income. As in, he correctly listed his gross income on the income report, but he used the net income to calculate his yearly income and somehow came up with around $68k for 2019, despite listing ~$55k for the 6 months requested on the income report.

He is absolutely that dumb. There's literally no other way he gets anywhere near $5000. Much less the $9000 he listed for July 2019.

Fair enough, well see come March 5th.
 
BREAKING NEWS

Meeting with the creditors has been scheduled for 3\5\2020 at 10am with Trustee Nancy L James.


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If anyone's wondering what a typical '341(a) Meeting' looks like:

- 341(a) Meeting script (this particular script is related to a Chapter 13 bankruptcy meeting, but I assume it's not that much different from a Chapter 7 meeting)
341 Meeting Structure and Questions
This page describes the structure of the 341 meeting and the questions that our office asks during the meeting.
OVERVIEW
§341 of the Bankruptcy Code states that "trustee shall call a meeting of creditors to be held. The business of the meeting shall include the examination of the debtor under oath." The meeting is held by a member of the trustee's staff. The debtor, joint debtor and the debtor attorney are required to attend the meeting. Creditors may attend if they wish.

The purpose of meeting is to review the petition and schedules with the debtor to ensure they are accurate, resolve any issues that may impact confirmation of the plan and to give creditors an opportunity to question the debtor.

MEETING
Prepare computer and escort attendees to room.
  • Select case in the 341 worksheet function.
  • Announce case in the reception area and attorney area.
  • Escort people to room and have everyone sit down.
Turn on recorder and state case information.
  • Turn on the recorder
  • Complete recording label information.
  • Good morning. My name is hearing officer, I will be the hearing officer for this meeting of creditors required by section 341 of the bankruptcy code. I am a representative for the trustee in this case.
  • This meeting will be tape recorded as required by bankruptcy rules. I would like everyone to please speak clearly when asking or answering questions.
  • This is the case of debtor names.
  • Case number case number.
  • Today is date.
Ask attendees to state their appearances.
  • address debtor attorney Counsel, please state your appearance.
  • Debtor attorney announces name and client's name.
  • address debtors Please state your name for the record.
  • Debtor announces name.
  • address creditor representatives Please state your appearance.
  • Creditor representatives announce name and the creditor they represent.
Explain meeting process to debtor.
  • We are here today to make sure the documents you and your attorney have submitted to the bankruptcy court are correct. Also, we will try to make sure your plan to repay your creditors will work. In order to do that, I will ask you some questions.
  • If any creditors are present Creditors will have an opportunity to ask you questions about your case.
Swear in debtor.
  • Before we start with questions, I will ask you to take an oath to tell the truth.
  • Please raise your right hand.
  • Do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
  • Debtor must answer yes aloud.
  • Thank you. If at any time you want to ask me a question, please feel free to do so.
Verify name, social security number, address, prior filings.
  • Debtor's first name, joint debtor's first name are you married to each other?
  • Use information from petition and question the debtor:
  • Mr./Ms. debtor's last name have you used any other names during the last 6 years?
  • Is your social security number debtor social security #?
  • Do you live at debtor's address?
  • Have you ever filed bankruptcy before? (Skip this question if a joint case.)
  • Is your mailing address debtor's mailing address?
If there is a joint debtor, use information from petition to ask the following questions:
  • Have you used any other names in the last 6 years?
  • Is your social security number joint debtor social security #?
  • Do you live at debtor's address?
  • Have either of you ever filed bankruptcy before?
If this is a repeat filer ask the following questions:
  • How long have you been on your job?
  • Is this the same employer/job you had in the last case?
  • If it is the same job, ask why this case will work when the last one didn't.
Pro Se Debtor. Ask the following questions:
  • Did you receive help with the filing of your petition, schedules and plan?
  • If yes, what is the occupation of this person?
  • Did you pay them for their services and how much?
  • Obtain the name, occupation, phone number and address of the person.
Business cases. Ask the following questions regarding the reporting package mailed to the debtor and debtor attorney:
  • Our office mailed you documents regarding the operation of your business. Did you receive them?
  • If yes, ask for the completed forms.
  • If no, give them a copy and explain we must have the completed forms one week prior to the confirmation date.
  • Do you have any questions about the forms?
Verify schedules - property, debts, income and expenses.
  • Show debtor/joint debtor copy of petition and schedules.
  • This is a copy of your petition. Did you see these documents before you signed them?
  • Have you listed all of your property in these documents?
  • Review schedules A and B.
  • Have you listed everyone you owe money to in these documents?
  • Review schedules D, E and F.
  • Did you bring a pay stub with you today?
  • Ask for all of the stubs available.
  • Verify the accuracy of the scheduled income.
  • Have there been any significant changes to your budget?
Allow creditors to ask relevant questions.
  • address creditor representatives Do you have any questions?
  • Limit the creditor to questions about collateral and insurance issues.
  • Ask about the creditor's claim amount if not on file.
Verify accuracy of claim amounts and equity.
Update information on 341 worksheet.

  • address debtor attorney Are there any unpaid attorney fees?
  • Enter data on system.
  • Verify the following dollar amounts and numbers and inform the parties of the terms of the plan..
  • monthly plan payment
  • months in plan
  • estimated percent.
  • Recalculate computer worksheet.
Arrange payroll deduction and provide Chapter 13 plan information.
  • We recommend that all plan payments to the trustee be made through payroll deduction. We have found that cases have a better chance of success when on payroll and you don't have to purchase a cashiers check or money order.
  • Do you want payroll deductions?
  • If debtor agrees to payroll deduction:
  • Print order.
  • Explain order.
  • Have debtor sign order.
  • If debtor refuses payroll deduction:
  • You should understand that if you miss a payment, the judge can order payroll deduction or dismiss your case without your permission.
  • Explain how to make payments to our office.
  • If the debtor agreed to payroll, explain that they should make a payment every time they are paid until they see the deductions coming out of their check.
  • Explain information on it.
  • Give the debtor payment envelopes.
Meeting conclusion
  • Mr./Ms. debtor's last name, do you have any questions at this time?
  • No further action required by debtor attorney:
  • The confirmation hearing will be on date.
  • Address debtor attorney Our office requires no additional information or documents at this time. You may contact the trustee's attorney staff attorney name if you have any questions regarding the confirmation hearing.
  • Good luck to you. This meeting is adjourned.
  • If debtor attorney must do something:
  • The confirmation hearing will be on date.
  • address debtor attorney Our office requires the following things from you:
  • State documents that must be provided or amended.
  • State any other requirements.
  • This must be done at least one week prior to the confirmation hearing.
  • You may contact the trustee's attorney staff attorney name if you have any questions regarding the confirmation hearing.
  • Good luck to you. This meeting is adjourned.
  • Turn off the recorder.
  • Excuse everyone from the room.
Meeting follow up.
  • Enter the meeting result and any necessary notes.
  • Print a copy of the worksheet.
  • Make copies of the confirmation order, payroll order and any other necessary documents.
  • File documents and return the case file to the front desk.
(http://www.chi13.com/Web/341script.html)

- 341(a) Meeting recording
















(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igxzV4ToZlw)

Note: DSP's meeting could be (slightly) different, but the examples above should give a good impression of the general idea.
 
Chapter 7 bankruptcy actually has an overwhelmingly huge success rate (allegedly 99% according to Wallethub.com) and something tells me the "King of Retro" will fall into that 1% that doesn't make it.

I was wondering where you got this number because it's not true. I think you probably got it from this:

"Generally, excluding cases that are dismissed or converted, individual debtors receive a discharge in more than 99 percent of chapter 7 cases."

I think you missed some important words there.


I'm not sure what the exact statistics for dismissal/conversion are but they're way over 1%.

My question is this. Is it possible he will be given a chance to just amend the filing or update it? Will this also be public if he does this?

Probably at least one but he'll probably be challenged to produce actual backup documents this time because he obviously can't be trusted not to just make up obvious nonsense. Checking account statements, bank accounts, they'll probably find his PayPal he hid, because transfers back and forth will show up in those, etc.
 
So the attorney just pulled numbers out of her head to put on the form? lol
Also, can't wait for the creditors to compare the paperwork he submitted to get credit to what he put in these papers.
His attorney has nothing to do with it. It's up to Phil to provide figures that are true and correct (to Phil's knowledge). The attorney just told Phil what they need to file his bankruptcy paperwork, they don't scrutinize the actual figures.
 
I was wondering where you got this number because it's not true. I think you probably got it from this:

"Generally, excluding cases that are dismissed or converted, individual debtors receive a discharge in more than 99 percent of chapter 7 cases."

I think you missed some important words there.


I'm not sure what the exact statistics for dismissal/conversion are but they're way over 1%.

Yeah, a lot of people misinterpret that number. Your debt can't be discharged if your filing is dismissed or converted to Chapter 13, so you wouldn't count towards that 1%.
 
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That's true, but he also very specifically listed all his debt as "consumer debt" not related to the business.
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Every single credit card debt "type" is listed as consumer debt as well. So he can't be claiming the interest on them as business related. I think it's far more likely, as others have pointed out, that he's just adding up all the household expenses in full and throwing in some tax payments or something.

Section question queries if primarily, not all, debts, are consumer. Now how all those first mortgages are being folded into consumer debt and make up the primary share of the outstanding amounts owed, I don't know, but then again I don't rake in 12 C notes to mill these things through the state system either?

I'm not totally convinced this number is over-estimated. Remember Phil made more money in the past than he does today, and he's still pulling over six-figures...I can't stress enough how his money seems to have just disappeared into a black hole.

If we average what the watchers of the account have him pegged for and what the overstated number by an extra six figures total when tacked onto that conservative estimate, we're in the $95K range for this particular mobile game whaling. I can see it getting to that level, but all the way to the full $140K he's continually used to 'debunk' any mentions of the saga with since it broke publicly and was offered for him to comment on derisively? Seems excessive even for this level of financial incompetence. Not out of the realm of possibility though I suppose!

(We also have almost no research at this time devoted to the other gatcha games he's admitted to playing so maybe between all those totals we'd get our exact coordinate location of the black monetary hole anomaly in this system?)
 
"Florida was dirty," and he didn't like the weather there, no way the air there would have ever have cured his back injury. Pretty sure Florida has a better business environment to run your sole proprietorship from out of in regards to a tax assessment point of view though and only one of those two problems is still lingering for him today...

And yet, in Florida, he could have dumped virtually unlimited money into any kind of house and had it be exempt. Why do you think O.J. Simpson moved there? But he was too smart for that and is going to get fucked with Washington's house exemption instead.
 
And yet, in Florida, he could have dumped virtually unlimited money into any kind of house and had it be exempt. Why do you think O.J. Simpson moved there? But he was too smart for that and is going to get fucked with Washington's house exemption instead.
DOOD KHAMAN
IT GOES OVER 80 DEGREES F THERE, HE WOULD LITERALLY DIE!
AND ALL THE *bites thumb* NON WHITE PEEPOL, HE JUST WOULDNT BE SAFE!
 
One little comment that stuck out to me during his little rant at the end of his stream was “no one not a single person ever in the history of filing for bankruptcy has filed a bankruptcy filing like this and gone to jail ever”

lol that the only people who may believe that are his wheelers. not the
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He’s gotta be somewhere BY 10am? Poor Philip isn’t going to enjoy that Morning...
and he doesn't realize he'll probably be there all day since he lied on the forms.
damn we have to wait another month for the next chapter
Good writing takes time.
 
And yet, in Florida, he could have dumped virtually unlimited money into any kind of house and had it be exempt. Why do you think O.J. Simpson moved there? But he was too smart for that and is going to get fucked with Washington's house exemption instead.

Subforum tries to not suggest good ideas for DSP here due to him reading it every day. But you know what? Fuck it, way too late in the game now to do any good for the pigroach!

What exactly in the Washington state home exemption law he's citing here will end up raming it up his ass, as Phil's so fond of promising during any random variety streaming day of his, as I'm not familiar with their legal set up for this kind of proceeding? He was very insistent he was keeping that middle unit a month ago and they do cite a specific law to protect it in the paperwork I read, so I would assume he feels this limb could support his attempt to game the system to his favor.
 
He spends 380$ a month on a 2017 Corolla. Lol what? Corolla are $20k cars brand new. Did he just not put a down payment or something?

My car when I bought it was 24,000 brand new, I put down 8 grand and got my monthly payments to under $200.

I just looked up a new 2020 Corolla (same price) and messed around with it until I got it to exactly $380:

Credit score= poor
Down payment= $3,750
APR= 14.64%
Term= 72 months

LOL.
Buyers market for cars, dood.

I'm surprised he didn't 'splurge' on something a tad bit more exotic, like a BMW or Audi, since that's what all the real adult businessmen drive.
 
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