-Shiloh seems more relaxed in this interview.
1:38 - Mentions her social media break was caused by all the hate and harassment she was receiving. Guys sought after because they wanted to know if she was a crazy as Grugly made her out to be. This made Shiloh want to stop meeting ppl in general. Gave her PTSD from this situation and speaks for the other victims Grug has abused.
4:30/6:26/9:13 - Victims get have breakdowns in their day to day life, even during showers. Had to call because she was reliving the Stockholm syndrome like feeling and experience. Has effected her motivation, eating habits, and sleep schedule. Currently the other victims are suffering self esteem issues. She recently realized how much Greg has damaged her intimacy with others or way of showing love to others with her therapist.
10:13/10:32/12:16- Greg weakens his victims, had a notable charm that his victims didn't see the red flags. Most of his victims are understanding, kind and naive people either from broken homes or are suffering from teen rebellion against their others. His victims are caught in the stage in which they are confused about themselves during the rebellious adolescence into the transition to adulthood.
13:47 - Chris asked her about the strength that made her break away; her mother hiding her passport. If she didn't leave she doesn't know what would have happened to her. A small jab at Krai.
15:31/17:23/18:56 - Questions about Greg's retaliation. Rampaging with the sex tweets to try and confuse the victims. Later released to be the incident with his daughter's fall that was filmed. Speculation that Greg is trying to put them back into their place. Chris mentions the video of Greg saying "Victims don't speak out" to the extent in Onision's words "kAi Is A rEaL vIcTiM gUyZ". Onision is running his mouth and as stated above me, called the sheriff's office to complain. Living in his own dream/world. Backpedaling rn to figure what to do. Shiloh reference the original video in which Greg say "No one will ever know how much I abuse you" to describe his mental process.
20:57 - The mindset of Grugly according to Shiloh: When he panics he locks himself away, watches the drama unfold to try and convince ppl.
23:16/23:56 - Lives on the internet since his high school years, confided this to Shiloh. Filmed himself as a teenager showing how he lived. Might have started as incel and was anti social in high school.
21:46 - When he livestreamed with his ex wife Skye they would run into arguments or she would get hurt and Skye would get up to leave the room. Greg whores himself out for sympathy and attention by his audience to "make him feel better".
22:28 - Fakes being crazy, just sits and plots. His father had an influence on him.
24:35 - His influence rubbed on to Shiloh was attacking women who were comfortable with their bodies or makeup as sluts. Made her become anti-abortion and attack ppl who weren't vegan. Molded into his image. Diminished Jacklyn Glen becauseof her wants, made her believe she was less of a woman.
26:14 - Trying to make a cult/ echo chamber.
27:18 - Took Sarah's confession and used to against her, thinking it make him look like has truth. Made fun of the situation, targeting her just to try and manipulate her back to his swamp.
30:05-She wants this case to remain public because this isn't taught in schools/homes. Chris states this is an example of how it's reached R. Kelley levels of infamy.
31:23 - Made her account because of how her friends and other victims got talked down too. Spent the last 8-9 years thinking she wouldn't have a voice or justice. There are cases similar to this.
32:55/34:30 - Susan Wojcicki/Youtube blame with an TV analogy of her being a "Landlord of serial killer, not informing tenants".
35:08-Developed an ED and wouldn't open herself up to therapy at first.
36:14 - Former Onision fans reach out to Chris: made them normalized unhealthy, inappropriate relationships with older men.
37:03/38:25 - Gurg will only be removed once he is incarcerated, almost acts as a platform for other predators
39:23/39:41-More victims might be out there, Chris opened a line for conversation for victims coming foward.
40:16 - Greg is secretive and his info about him talking to Lamey. Secretive like the tactics R. Kelley used, references the Surving R. Kelley documentary
41:01/42:19 - Stripped Shiloh of femininity and the tactics Greg was using failed on her (she was his testing dummy). Jabs at Kai saying "There's nothing Greg could have me do that would make me sleep with a minor, send naked pictures to minor, talk sexually to a minor or bring a third to relationship that's an adult decision."
42:14 - She had to hear what Kai did through the other victims confiding in her. She is guilty
Her message (43:44) : You're young and I'm not going to discredit your intelligence or your ability to know right from wrong. You are young and easily manipulated and you will not catch it. Predators don't care about you they are not what you think
45:11 - Had to lie low after hearing all the details about Chloey, Greg filming her. Reminded her of when Greg filmed her suicide threat. And it sparked her to continue. Using her account to advocate for victims.
46:32/48:22 - Working on a music video, and writing second album. Taking it slow from her mental issues. Wants to show other you can move on from trauma and is moving past trauma.
48:36 - Gives advice to bigger names put there and to not drop the case, keep mentioning it to bring more awareness. Use your platform for change.
51:02/52:27 - With Mike Morse: Onion called the sheriff's department complaining it violated policies. Sheriff's department is compiling evidence for the prosecutor's office. Prosecutor will observe the case to see what he will be charged for and what the cops can arrest him on.
53:36 - Talking about the physician Larry Nasser case.
57:03 - Asking victims or ppl with information to contact the Pierce county department for more information, needing everyone's help.
55:49/57:34 - Reinstated the point made before with Shiloh about Onion's content, causing potential tangential victims.
58:14 - Should YouTube be held accountable?
