Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[HonsPonzud]

I love that since Winnie the Pooh took steps for more censorship, everything seems to leak ten times more, much faster, and most people that don't give a fuck on their death camp beds just record their situation and spill all the beans as they clearly know it's the final bus stop, the end of the line for them.

Heh... No one would give a fuck about their government lies at this point too.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

God...fucking damn it

I really hate being right about this shit....I really fucking hate that my worst case scenario is already playing out before us

It wasn't that hard to guess this would happen. We all knew China would rather let their people die at the end. It's tragic, but then again, at least it's not us. There is nothing wrong about thinking that.

 

[Judge Holden]

I love that since Winnie the Pooh took steps for more censorship, everything seems to leak ten times more, much faster, and most people that don't give a fuck on their death camp beds just record their situation and spill all the beans as they clearly know it's the final bus stop, the end of the line for them.

Heh... No one would give a fuck about their government lies at this point too.

Or to nurdify the point a bit....

 

[HonsPonzud]

It wasn't that hard to guess this would happen. We all knew China would rather let their people die at the end. It's tragic, but then again, at least it's not us. There is nothing wrong about thinking that.

The second we saw them piling cheap made containers with metal bars welded to windows that could only be opened from the outside, we all knew what was coming a week or so ago.

The media is either completely incompetent, or lag 2 weeks on the reality of the situation on purpose.

Completely open areas of sick people like the spanish flu death camps is a whole new level in the accelleration of this shitshow and should be treated as total confession of things getting out of hand / control.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

I love that since Winnie the Pooh took steps for more censorship, everything seems to leak ten times more, much faster, and most people that don't give a fuck on their death camp beds just record their situation and spill all the beans as they clearly know it's the final bus stop, the end of the line for them.

Heh... No one would give a fuck about their government lies at this point too.

Here's the thing about the leaks: we don't just get the numbers, we get information on how they put together their metrics.

When someone with a pre-existing condition dies in the hospital while suffering from the coronavirus, the doctors record that death as the pre-existing condition. About 70% of people in China have pre-existing conditions. Asthma is one of the most common.

The 25k number - that would probably be 75k in the West. The numbers they are releasing should offend the Chinese people.

 

[Angry New Ager]

So, what should I make of this situation as far as doing something to prepare?

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Anyway, don't no what to do, or how to feel. Does anyone want to internet hug me?

Calm the fuck down, fam.

No, seriously. I'm not saying that out of autistic rudeness; I'm saying it because people tend to make incredibly bad decisions when they're anxious and afraid, and that you're sick (with what is more than likely just a common cold, or a mild case of non-Wu flu) is not helping. When you're sick, everything seems a lot worse than it is. It just does.

I'd give you an internet hug, but my internet autism forbids it. Sorry.

From here, I'd say you're in a pretty low-risk area. I live in a major West Coast city with lots of Chinese students and 1st/2nd generation immigrants with close ties to China, and I'm not even worried. I wash my hands more often, and refilled all the bottles of hand sanitizer I have in the car and various bags and coat pockets, but that's pretty much it--the same shit I do in any given flu season. We've had one case of Wu Flu in another county, but so far no additional cases have cropped up.

Now, if that changes, I'll revise my plans accordingly, but for now it's merely a potential threat that bears watching, not an active one.

Hanging out here, I seem to be way more informed about the epidemic's progress and the nature of the Wu Flu than anybody else I know (seriously, Kiwis, you're fucking amazing). So I just keep re-assessing the situation on a day-by-day basis, thinking about what I might want to do or acquire if things look like they're going pear-shaped. But until that happens I'm not going to worry about it. Staying mindful is one thing, worry is another, and you want to stay in that first mindset, not the second.

That said, if you do want to stock up on extra non-perishable food in case other people panic and empty the Walmart, buy stuff you like and eat on a regular basis, so it will actually get eaten even if nothing happens. Otherwise, it's just a waste of money and cabinet space. I live in earthquake country, and keep a lot of extra food on hand for when the Big One hits, and I don't buy anything I wouldn't normally eat.

 

[Computer Boy]

Dr.Li is dead (for real this time)

 

[kcbbq]

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Dr.Li is dead (for real this time)

The body double they found must not have been convincing enough. /conspiracy

 

[HonsPonzud]

Here's the thing about the leaks: we don't just get the numbers, we get information on how they put together their metrics.

When someone with a pre-existing condition dies in the hospital while suffering from the coronavirus, the doctors record that death as the pre-existing condition. About 70% of people in China have pre-existing conditions. Asthma is one of the most common.

The 25k number - that would probably be 75k in the West. The numbers they are releasing should offend the Chinese people.

I don't think these people even know about the real numbers either, it's not even "talked" about or thrown out to the public of course to avoid very obedient civilians to panic, i think that the only way we will be allowed to come close is to guess and look at the clues, they will never come out as straight honest numbers ever.

 

[JosephStalin]

I love that since Winnie the Pooh took steps for more censorship, everything seems to leak ten times more, much faster, and most people that don't give a fuck on their death camp beds just record their situation and spill all the beans as they clearly know it's the final bus stop, the end of the line for them.

Heh... No one would give a fuck about their government lies at this point too.

Yeah, we called it. We're looking at death houses, pure and simple. No place to wash? No doctors? People packed in like sardines? I didn't even see people laying head to foot, alternating. They've just been dumped in there, and the families are doing what little they can to help. Heard no mention of feeding the patients and changing the linen. Wouldn't be surprised to learn the families have to feed their loved ones due to inadequate kitchen facilities or a shortage of food. Heard nothing about any sort of medicine.

Looking at the "repurposed" facility, going to be the same thing. Stick them in beds, no isolation. Disease will run rampant. God knows how many will die each day, to be added to the work of the way-overburdened mortuary services. Things keep up, bodies will be taken out of town, put on pyres with flammable material, and burned.

And for all this, the CCP still has the sheer gall, not to mention the resources, to go after people who have been merely telling the truth. Party before country. Who knows how many innocent Chinese people will pay with their lives so the CCP can save the face they've already lost forever.

Sadly, things are likely to only get worse, with no idea when there will be any real improvement.

On a side note, went to Amazon, left message for the people I bought the masks from. Far as I know they are either still in Shenzhen or have been confiscated by the CCP. Told seller if masks have been confiscated, I want a refund. Not the seller's fault. Mercifully, no cases in our area yet.

 

[Otterly]

The problem with fake numbers (apart from the ethical concerns of treating your own populace like crap) is that everyone else needs accurate data to make risk assessments and treatment/quarantine/other plans. The numbers coming out of China are clearly not reliable, but HOW they are unreliable is hard to say. If there are 25k dead, and 100k infected, that’s bad news. Up the infected number to a million, your death rate changes a lot. Infectiveness and kill rate are really important, and rate of people made seriously ill is too and we don’t know those rates.
By obfuscating the true extent of infections AND deaths, everyone else is working on supposition. That’s bad news, because responses and plans need to be made on accurate data. It’s quite obvious from other countries’ responses that they do not believe china’s number either. They can’t say so out loud, but if they believed the numbers, we wouldn’t be seeing total bans on entry.

 

[HonsPonzud]

The problem with fake numbers (apart from the ethical concerns of treating your own populace like crap) is that everyone else needs accurate data to make risk assessments and treatment/quarantine/other plans. The numbers coming out of China are clearly not reliable, but HOW they are unreliable is hard to say. If there are 25k dead, and 100k infected, that’s bad news. Up the infected number to a million, your death rate changes a lot. Infectiveness and kill rate are really important, and rate of people made seriously ill is too and we don’t know those rates.
By obfuscating the true extent of infections AND deaths, everyone else is working on supposition. That’s bad news, because responses and plans need to be made on accurate data. It’s quite obvious from other countries’ responses that they do not believe china’s number either. They can’t say so out loud, but if they believed the numbers, we wouldn’t be seeing total bans on entry.

It's not the 1920's anymore we live in a world of pathetic lies and sellouts, there are no man of real principle in charge anymore in position of power that would just threaten the fuck out of China to know the real numbers so a real contagency plan based on facts and truth could be deployed with good old cold steel effectiveness, not fucking around with a bunch of weak ass world leader insitutionalized sodomites that would rather receive a huge paycheck from China. Even if it appears more and more true that it only greatly affect and kill AC2 cells holder like asian people, it's still very eye opening on how corrupt / willfully incompetent all these world organization of bullshit for this and for that are.

"Fuck the optics, we selling out"

 

[Jimothy]

God...fucking damn it

I really hate being right about this shit....I really fucking hate that my worst case scenario is already playing out before us

Why? Those subhumans deserve this. Especially after blowtorching that dog alive, throwing their pets out of high-rise apartments, and burying cats alive. Not to mention the dog meat festivals where they boil and flay dogs alive, bear bile farms where captive bears routinely attempt suicide, and other horrors beyond your imagination. God surely smiles on this world every time a chink dies. I for one love seeing the numbers go up.

 

[Computer Boy]

Why? Those subhumans deserve this. Especially after blowtorching that dog alive, throwing their pets out of high-rise apartments, and burying cats alive. Not to mention the dog meat festivals where they boil and flay dogs alive, bear bile farms where captive bears routinely attempt suicide, and other horrors beyond your imagination. God surely smiles on this world every time a chink dies. I for one love seeing the numbers go up.

Animals are gay and your a zoophile if you like them

 

[remiem]

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Dr.Li is dead (for real this time)

Something about this that really bugs me is the fact that if he's just now died? That's a very long time to be sick, if he was 'aware' of it as one of the earliest people.

 

[RodgerDodger]

The most interesting demonstration of our Western laws was the furor over alleged plans for "FEMA death camps" under Obama. As far as the conspiracy theory went, it was wrong and didn't happen... But the laws actually did allow for FEMA to set up concentration camps if a state of emergency was declared and rule over them with martial law. There is a huge degree of power and leeway they're given to deal with people if the government declares the correct type of catastrophe to be in effect.

The trick is to maintain a representative government in which there are checks and balances to carefully restrict and limit such powers of government and to prevent their abuse. But some of these powers are a necessity of civilization. They are by definition what governance is. We appoint designated leaders to act decisively in times of great crisis. But in a representative and non authoritarian society we place firm limits on when such may be used, and demand total transparency. There are times when individual rights and liberties will come in conflict with the health, well being and survival of everyone else. You can’t fight a plague by public referendum. You can’t put out a burning building by committee. This is part of the social compact we enter into. We can select who our leaders are that will act for us and our communal needs in times of crisis.

 

[ADHD]

We're looking at death houses, pure and simple. No place to wash? No doctors? People packed in like sardines? I didn't even see people laying head to foot, alternating. They've just been dumped in there, and the families are doing what little they can to help. Heard no mention of feeding the patients and changing the linen. Wouldn't be surprised to learn the families have to feed their loved ones due to inadequate kitchen facilities or a shortage of food. Heard nothing about any sort of medicine.

Assuming families have to come to these places to take care of the "patients", at this point wouldn't it make more sense to just let people stay in their homes and send around a cart to collect bodies? What is the point of packing them into these shitty buildings to die in misery, other than cruelty? Although I can't say I'd shed any tears if the animal abusers end up dying in a place like that, they deserve way worse.

 

[XYZpdq]

Spoiler: /Pol/'s theory

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Probably not true though. 20k is a lot of people. Even if they've got the crematoriums going and giant field pyres I doubt it would be enough.

At long last all those years of calculating crematorium processing rates pays off!

 

[la mort]

People of WHO are fucking retarded. First they tweet about the death of Dr. Li and then they say they have no confirmation of his passing.

Link / Archive

 

[HonsPonzud]

Something about this that really bugs me is the fact that if he's just now died? That's a very long time to be sick, if he was 'aware' of it as one of the earliest people.

They probably forced him into catching it multiple times after he recovered. CCP doesn't tolerate "traitors" to the social well being and unity. They are treated like the utmost despicable traitor / spy for the other "imaginary" adversary / enemy as if they were under a war of some sort.

Assuming families have to come to these places to take care of the "patients", at this point wouldn't it make more sense to just let people stay in their homes and send around a cart to collect bodies? What is the point of packing them into these shitty buildings to die in misery, other than cruelty? Although I can't say I'd shed any tears if the animal abusers end up dying in a place like that, they deserve way worse.

To keep some semblance of social balance / peace and to look like they are trying to do something, on one or two videos you can tell even elderly chinese speaking in these "dorms" are dumbfounded and stunned they don't receive any medical treatment, cross infections possible, no medical supplies, no isolation... Goes to show the government propaganda still has a lot of weight on these poor people's souls when they get their reality check on their last days when it stares them in the eye.