Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

Normally I would agree with you, but many historians/people who teach history have more overt political agendas now. I can see them finding some excuse to get Obama in there at the very least, assuming the current identity politics paradigms hold in some form in the next 50 years.
Obama's the first second black president, of course he'll be in the history textbooks in 50 years. Trump will inevitably be in there, mainly because of how unprecedented his run for office and time in it was.
 
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What's funny is that the real things you could nail Trump on require a more radical right point of view.

His salivating love for nigger dick is only rivaled by his insatiable lust for cut Israeli cock. Almost all of his grandkids will enjoy Israeli citizenship and his one adult child married out of the tribe is his least favorite child.

The wall is not built and his most unquestionable accomplishment thus far is not being removed from office. The GDP increase looks good on paper but to someone like me is completely meaningless. Big tech is as powerful as ever, Amazon is moving to Texas where they will work around the clock to swing the state blue and enable illegal immigrants to vote while censoring Trump's biggest supporters online. The Donald opened their own site and despite that their numbers there are lower than their Reddit counterpart.

Legislatively, the RNC has poked holes in the communications decency act, threatening online free speech, and failed to make citizenship a criteria of the 2020 census which will impact the house for the next 10 years in the Democrat's favor. Pajeet shit in the street was put as the head of the FCC and immediately dumped curry diarrhea on net neutrality, planting an insidious seed that will inevitably fuck Americans in the ass as soon as they think they can get away with it without the immediate backlash they'd get now. One of many corporate stooges placed in governing bodies designed to regulate the companies that paid them. The second amendment has suffered needlessly with bump stock bans and red flag laws.

I have been very critical of Trump's actions overseas, but to his credit, ISIS is gone and we aren't in any more wars. I would say the military actions were unneeded, but the results are acceptable - good, even. There is very credible reason to suggest his presidency has hampered our relationship and protecting power status on Europe. It remains to be seen if he has accelerated Europe's ambitions to form its own military and break from NATO.

The biggest and best thing to be said about Trump is that he isn't Clinton and didn't start a war. That he was a genuine outsider and proved anyone can be president, if they have enough balls and money. That's why I voted for him and it's why I'm probably voting for him again.

But fuck anyone who says he isn't just treading water. He will be a mostly forgotten president in 50 years.

I wholeheartedly agree with all of this. Despite my posting here (really cause I find his reddit supporters to be cringey fucks who have an annoying cult like obsession to Trump), I don't find Trump a bad president because he's honestly a more mediocre president and has done some good but still fucks up with no major achievements under his belt beyond some of his actions. The most he'll be remembered for is probably the fact he was more of an outsider compared to every other president who was a politician or military leader prior.

As for something else I expect to happen in the future is that once Trump has left office, we're going to likely see so many people try to copy Trump whether it's politicians or business leaders with no political or military background try to ape Trump while the worst of his supporters showcased ITT will likely scream at Trump to abolish the 22nd amendment before he leaves office if he has another term or screech at how "western society" has fallen once Trump left office.
 
-The wall is not built

-Big tech is as powerful as ever

-Legislatively, the RNC has poked holes in the communications decency act

-Pajeet shit in the street was put as the head of the FCC

-The second amendment has suffered needlessly with bump stock bans and red flag laws.

-There is very credible reason to suggest his presidency has hampered our relationship and protecting power status on Europe

fuck anyone who says he isn't just treading water.

If we wanna talk useful criticisms of Trump like these, he's so far done the opposite of "drain the swamp." Either he didn't realize he would never be able to deliver on that promise, or he never intended to do what his supporters thought he meant. The shitposting and political theater of his tenure have been entertaining, but the voting public has meanwhile been quietly handed a series of Ls like the ones listed above.

My current pet problem with Trump has been his apparent failure to capitalize on numerous opportunities to gain geopolitical ground on both Russia and China. I fully expect his administration to squander their chance with a post-Brexit UK.

Granted, no amount of geopolitical success would make up for further erosion of our freedoms to talk, travel, do business and own guns. I like owning guns.
 
My current pet problem with Trump has been his apparent failure to capitalize on numerous opportunities to gain geopolitical ground on both Russia and China. I fully expect his administration to squander their chance with a post-Brexit UK.

Opportunities such as? I am genuinely curious.
 
What's funny is that the real things you could nail Trump on require a more radical right point of view.

His salivating love for nigger dick is only rivaled by his insatiable lust for cut Israeli cock. Almost all of his grandkids will enjoy Israeli citizenship and his one adult child married out of the tribe is his least favorite child.

The wall is not built and his most unquestionable accomplishment thus far is not being removed from office. The GDP increase looks good on paper but to someone like me is completely meaningless. Big tech is as powerful as ever, Amazon is moving to Texas where they will work around the clock to swing the state blue and enable illegal immigrants to vote while censoring Trump's biggest supporters online. The Donald opened their own site and despite that their numbers there are lower than their Reddit counterpart.

Legislatively, the RNC has poked holes in the communications decency act, threatening online free speech, and failed to make citizenship a criteria of the 2020 census which will impact the house for the next 10 years in the Democrat's favor. Pajeet shit in the street was put as the head of the FCC and immediately dumped curry diarrhea on net neutrality, planting an insidious seed that will inevitably fuck Americans in the ass as soon as they think they can get away with it without the immediate backlash they'd get now. One of many corporate stooges placed in governing bodies designed to regulate the companies that paid them. The second amendment has suffered needlessly with bump stock bans and red flag laws.

I have been very critical of Trump's actions overseas, but to his credit, ISIS is gone and we aren't in any more wars. I would say the military actions were unneeded, but the results are acceptable - good, even. There is very credible reason to suggest his presidency has hampered our relationship and protecting power status on Europe. It remains to be seen if he has accelerated Europe's ambitions to form its own military and break from NATO.

The biggest and best thing to be said about Trump is that he isn't Clinton and didn't start a war. That he was a genuine outsider and proved anyone can be president, if they have enough balls and money. That's why I voted for him and it's why I'm probably voting for him again.

But fuck anyone who says he isn't just treading water. He will be a mostly forgotten president in 50 years.
To also add I'm glad he went tough on China and also got us out of signing the TPP. Last thing I want in my mouth is chink dick.

His attacks on Net Neutrality, environment policy rollbacks, and outrageous spending makes him a poor president however. And while some people here treat the wall like it's going to be some shining shield of the country, I feel that the environmental impact isn't worth it since it's ability as a 'deterrent' will be as effective as the war on drugs.

I'm not gonna lose my fucking mind if he wins again, but I think I'd rather take Bernie at this point. Even if Bernie wins he'll most likely be stonewalled by an (R) filled senate.
 
Opportunities such as? I am genuinely curious.

I honestly think I shit the bed with my choice of words in the post you quoted, because I should have framed it more as a struggle to avoid losing ground than a struggle to gain ground.

Bearing in mind that I'm squarely in opinion territory on this, I've been frustrated by what has looked like a lack of urgency about Chinese espionage and "soft power" expansion. I should also concede that I think the "trade war" up until this point has been paying off.

With that said, I think the Trump administration was caught flat-footed by the scope and speed of China's "Belt and Road" projects. Particularly in Africa and South America, U.S. intelligence services have noted their surprise to find Chinese economic and political footholds being unexpectedly established. I wish I still had the direct source for that, but I'm an idiot and didn't expect it to come up in conversation. My overall impression is that China moved further and faster than U.S. intelligence expected, and it's taking time to mount a response. Maybe I worry too much, but I find it unsettling that U.S. interests were so relaxed as to be taken by surprise at Chinese efforts that aren't exactly famed for subtlety.

At the moment, I'm looking to Australia as a major indicator of how this back-and-forth will go in the coming years. Chinese interests have been encroaching at a rapid pace there, and China now has substantial positions in the Australian housing and commerce sectors - enough to make things difficult for the Taiwanese already, and that leverage is being used. Just how much those positions advance (or don't) in the near future will say a lot about the overall U.S. strategy there.

The Russia side of things is, at least to my very simple brain, mostly connected to relations with the EU. Trump's election almost certainly alienated a large portion of the EU political establishment right off the bat, and I didn't see him doing a lot to fix that. The EU has reasons to worry about both China and Russia, but I think the U.S. under Trump has moved too slowly to warn them about the dangers of Chinese espionage, and too timidly to successfully position itself as the indispensable good guy in opposition to Russian attempts to weaken the EU's position. Russia is all too happy to eat up territory and increase its influence on the EU's eastern side, and it's not above using information campaigns to support anti-EU political movements. I'd love to see more EU member nations take their sovereignty back, but I'd rather it didn't happen on Russia's terms.

The stuff that could properly be described as "opportunities" is really just beginning to happen. As the nasty side effects of Chinese activity begin to show themselves in various countries touched by "Belt and Road," there should be chances to push back. As EU concerns about its stability continue to mount and a post-Brexit UK looks to forge a new trade network, there's a chance to solidify some bulwarks against Russian (and to a lesser extent Chinese) influence.

What's interesting about politics is that talking about it teaches me very quickly how little I know and how dumb I am.
 
A classic I found on tumblr once.

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I wholeheartedly agree with all of this. Despite my posting here (really cause I find his reddit supporters to be cringey fucks who have an annoying cult like obsession to Trump), I don't find Trump a bad president because he's honestly a more mediocre president and has done some good but still fucks up with no major achievements under his belt beyond some of his actions. The most he'll be remembered for is probably the fact he was more of an outsider compared to every other president who was a politician or military leader prior.

As for something else I expect to happen in the future is that once Trump has left office, we're going to likely see so many people try to copy Trump whether it's politicians or business leaders with no political or military background try to ape Trump while the worst of his supporters showcased ITT will likely scream at Trump to abolish the 22nd amendment before he leaves office if he has another term or screech at how "western society" has fallen once Trump left office.

I imagine Trump will go down in history as a McCarthy type. He will mostly be reviled besides a few alt history right wing weridos
 
If we wanna talk useful criticisms of Trump like these, he's so far done the opposite of "drain the swamp." Either he didn't realize he would never be able to deliver on that promise, or he never intended to do what his supporters thought he meant. The shitposting and political theater of his tenure have been entertaining, but the voting public has meanwhile been quietly handed a series of Ls like the ones listed above.

My current pet problem with Trump has been his apparent failure to capitalize on numerous opportunities to gain geopolitical ground on both Russia and China. I fully expect his administration to squander their chance with a post-Brexit UK.

Granted, no amount of geopolitical success would make up for further erosion of our freedoms to talk, travel, do business and own guns. I like owning guns.
I think it's a bit of both. I think he only really wanted to drain the swamp
 
He didn't "drain the swamp". Who do you think those 52 Republican senators were during the impeachment trial? He kept who was "necessary" for his own benefit.
KF shit the bed and lost half my post. I basically agree, he only wanted to purge the "swamp" of those that opposed him because of his ego but he failed at that.
 
I think it's a bit of both. I think he only really wanted to drain the swamp
If he did, he gave up around the point random circuit judges started issuing nationwide injunctions and McCain cucked his entire push for repealing Obamacare that he wasted an entire year of political capital on after taking the GOP's advice that he should focus on that first. @Null is right, Trump is barely treading water but people have such Stockholm syndrome with overall shitty presidents that they cope by insisting he is a great President.

I imagine Trump will go down in history as a McCarthy type. He will mostly be reviled besides a few alt history right wing weridos
I'm starting to see him more as a Ronald Reagan 2.0. A mediocre President that a chunk of the population will fondly remember for the "good old days" but actually laid the seeds for those "good old days" destruction. And of course a significant chunk of the population that will despise that he ever happened in the first place.

...I do suppose that prediction comes with the assumption the US doesn't implode in the next 2 decades, as then Trump's legacy becomes completely irrelevant.
 
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If he did, he gave up around the point random circuit judges started issuing nationwide injunctions and McCain cucked his entire push for repealing Obamacare that he wasted an entire year of political capital on after taking the GOP's advice that he should focus on that first. @Null is right, Trump is barely treading water but people have such Stockholm syndrome with overall shitty presidents that they cope by insisting he is a great President.
Hard agree. People have gotten so used to 'BUH WHA ABOOT OBAMA/BUSH/CLINTON' that they can no long just assess a president as is. Sure you obviously have to compare an administration to the previous, but holy fuck just think critically.

Also while this thread obviously began to shit on reddit spergs, I will say that /r/trumpcriticizestrump is a pretty good indication of how I see this current administration.
 
If he did, he gave up around the point random circuit judges started issuing nationwide injunctions and McCain cucked his entire push for repealing Obamacare that he wasted an entire year of political capital on after taking the GOP's advice that he should focus on that first. @Null is right, Trump is barely treading water but people have such Stockholm syndrome with overall shitty presidents that they cope by insisting he is a great President.

Your not wrong, one of the reasons people like him is that compared to other presidents who seem to want to swim farther away from land the guy treading water seems like a godsend.

It also makes it funnier when people keep claiming he's destroying the country, he's changing the country, how will we ever fix the damage he has done, other TDS shit,


Hard agree. People have gotten so used to 'BUH WHA ABOOT OBAMA/BUSH/CLINTON' that they can no long just assess a president as is. Sure you obviously have to compare an administration to the previous, but holy fuck just think critically.

Also while this thread obviously began to shit on reddit spergs, I will say that /r/trumpcriticizestrump is a pretty good indication of how I see this current administration.

Remember though he was sold as the anti-establishment candidate and most people that do the what about include both Dem and Rep Candidates. I get wanting to assess him without comparison but that's like asking someone to be completely objective, impossible.
 
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If he did, he gave up around the point random circuit judges started issuing nationwide injunctions and McCain cucked his entire push for repealing Obamacare that he wasted an entire year of political capital on after taking the GOP's advice that he should focus on that first. @Null is right, Trump is barely treading water but people have such Stockholm syndrome with overall shitty presidents that they cope by insisting he is a great President.

You forgot that his opposition is completely insane. That alone makes him look a lot better than he is.
 
People can't seem to decide whether their political shit is a sportsball game that means nothing or a titanic battle between good and evil.
It isn't even sportsball, it is just Professional Wrestling except instead of Old and Roided up everyone is Old and Fat.
 
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