Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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So the new flights bringing bringing people back the the USA will be landing at Lackland Airbase in Texas and Eppley airfield (civilian airport) in Omaha.

Why Eppley and not Offutt Airforce base 12 miles away since returnees from Wuhan were going to be quarantined at military bases. Dont think there is any other place in Omaha to do that and it would be stupid to drive them through the city. Could be all of the runways were damaged in last seasons floods but wouldnt that be stupid? Why not pick a base with a working runway then.

I know they sent few of those doctors that caught ebola to Omaha a few years back since the National Ebola training and education center is there but I didnt think they'd have enough quarantine for a planeload of people.
Oh great, Lackland, the air force base for everything, especially basic.
 
He was an ophthalmologist so I don't think he was regularly exposed to all sorts of pathogens on the day to day. He would be a specialist for eyesight issues- cataracts, glaucoma, etc. It's literally one of the fields of medicine where you should have a very low risk of pathogen exposure, even.

The guy seemed to have heard about the outbreak, warned friends and it went viral, was reprimanded for it then he treated a patient who was infected and thus infected him. We don't know if he was healthy either, you could assume so certainly. You could also consider his death if it was by wuflu was another tally on it affecting Asian males even more. If he wasn't killed by China for being a dissident.

IMO. They probably wanted confusion about his death otherwise there's a huge risk of him becoming a martyr figure.

I haven't seen this mentioned a lot but he was only 33. That might make him the youngest confirmed death so far. Which is either really fucking suspicious or really bad, depending on how you look at it. Best case scenario is he had some bad lung condition.

Also tons of people on weibo are allegedly pissed about his death. The phrase "free speech now" was trending with millions of likes before chicom shut it down.

Oh and there are now reports of chickens dying due to lack of feed in Hubei. Supply lines are fucked.
 
The 3rd case in UK turns out to be some chucklefuck who flew in from Singapore:


The circumstances of how or where the British national caught coronavirus in Singapore remain unknown.
However, it does follow concerns being raised about at least three Asian businessmen catching the disease after attending a meeting of more than 100 international delegates at a hotel in the country. Other attendees are also showing symptoms of the disease, according to Reuters.

First British national tests positive for coronavirus
The first British national has tested positive for coronavirus after travelling back to the UK from Singapore, according to government sources.
It emerged earlier that a third case of the disease had been confirmed in the UK but England’s chief medical officer refused to disclose the patient’s nationality or specify which country in Asia they caught the disease.

But the Guardian understands that the individual is British and contracted the coronavirus in Singapore. It comes after Downing Street indicated the patient was British, with a spokesman saying earlier they “believed they are, yes”.

It follows an unnamed Chinese student from York University and his mother being diagnosed with the disease this week. The pair are being treated in Newcastle.

The Department of Health and Social Care is yet to release its list of Asian countries where it is now advising people who have travelled to and developed symptoms on their return to the UK to immediately self-isolate and call NHS 111 for advice. Asked by the Guardian, the department says it is aiming to do so this evening.

The list could include Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, Cambodia, Philippines, Thailand, Nepal and Sri Lanka, where cases of coronavirus have been confirmed.

According to the latest World Health Organzation figures, Japan, Thailand and Singapore all have the most number of cases in Asia outside China.
 
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This HAS to be a hoax.

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China seek for court’s approval to kill the over 20,000 coronavirus patients to avoid further spread of the virus
By Local Correspondent

The highest level of court in Chhina, Supreme People’s Court, is expected to give an approval on Friday for the mass killing of coronavirus patients in China as sure means of controlling the spread of the deadly virus.

The State tells the court that China is on the verge of losing its health workers to Coronavirus as at least 20 health workers contract the virus daily.

The State argues that coronavirus patients admitted at hospitals only have their deaths delayed and infect many others while receiving care at the hospital.

China has been under criticism for human rights violations and organizations have questioned China’s approach in dealing with the Coronavirus outbreak and it is believed the country has already killed many of its coronavirus patients.

The State mentioned in a document to the court that the country may lose its entire citizens if the few affected patients do not sacrifice their lives to save health workers and a billion others as there is no hope in sight in the fight against the virus.

The World Health Organization (WHO) has said it needs $1 billion to fight coronavirus outside China.

Countries around the world are starting to cut ties with China and pull their citizens out of the crisis-hit Hubei region, where the virus emerged in the city of Wuhan.

Hong Kong’s leader today held a press conference during which she wore a face mask and said the city would stop all high-speed trains and ferries to the mainland, halve the number of flights and stop giving visas to visitors from China.

Thirteen cases around the world have confirmed the coronavirus is spreading from person to person outside of China among people who have not visited the country.
 
What are you doing in China, Martin Shkreli ?

I wouldn't put it past them, actually they might even be doing it as we speak and just ask "approval" to make it so it doesn't look like they have been murdering infected people these past few days.
 
the point isn't death as much as disruption as pointed out earlier in this thread w/r/t bioweapons. imagine if the entirety of NYC was shut down due to hyperflu. if wall street was shut down for a week, that'd be a chunk out of someone's bank account. now imagine several US cities shut down due to vomiting and shitting. not only does that completely stop your economy and create social unrest, it costs you billions upon billions in cleanup (literally and metaphorically).

the more i think about it, i wouldn't be surprised if we eventually find out that this was an experiment gone wrong from that BSL facility. welcome to the future, comrades.
Given that Bird flu, swine flu, and coronavirus are all happening at once - either China is just ridiculously unlucky/unhealthy as a nation, or these were in fact bioweapon deployments. Having one by itself is bad. Having all three is a fucking nightmare, especially since two of them don't affect humans at all (no civilian casualties) and instead only affect food supplies, which the United States directly benefits from in their trade negotiations.

I'm not saying it is bioweapons. But if bioweapons were ever deployed, this is what it would look like.
But do note that China has been sowing the wind for the longest time regarding these kind of zoonotic viruses. There's a reason why Ebola and SARS happen in areas that eat wild animals on a regular basis, but we haven't really seen a full on major epidemic in the Western World since AIDS (which can be traced back to Africa and it's bushmeat practices). Stop fucking eating mystery meat, you stupid shits. There's a reason why agriculture was invented.
 
"...In the empty field."
"Where exactly? How did you take care of it?"
"We buried it deep in the dirt.
"I need a full explanation.
Give me a time, date, and process."
"We buried it deep around 5:50 today."
"Was it alive?"
"Alright, I understand your feelings, but please understand us, because of the epidemic."
"You're not answering my question."
I think I'd have to kill some people and bury them deep in the dirt.
 
So the new flights bringing bringing people back the the USA will be landing at Lackland Airbase in Texas and Eppley airfield (civilian airport) in Omaha.

Why Eppley and not Offutt Airforce base 12 miles away since returnees from Wuhan were going to be quarantined at military bases. Dont think there is any other place in Omaha to do that and it would be stupid to drive them through the city. Could be all of the runways were damaged in last seasons floods but wouldnt that be stupid? Why not pick a base with a working runway then.

I know they sent few of those doctors that caught ebola to Omaha a few years back since the National Ebola training and education center is there but I didnt think they'd have enough quarantine for a planeload of people.
why do they gotta drag us flyover folks into this bullshit? Dump em in Seattle or something.
 
indian scammers get rekt.

my plan: make a call center for the indians. tell them you have a cure from vishnu but it will cost 213,637 rupees in amazon gift cards.
Bonus points for staffing the call center with English people speaking broken Indian and claiming to be Pajeet from their home city.
 
BRAZIL: After a group of Brazilian residents in Wuhan begged their president to take them home, Bolsonaro has ordered two planes to fly to China, even though the Congress hasn't yet finished approving a new law with procedures on these cases. His people say they're confident the Congress will approve these new protocols, but they can't wait anymore. These new rules will demand patients to follow a number of procedures. In case the law isn't approved, the government has alternatives to follow instead.

Brazilian government has said they will only bring back people who accepted to be put in quarantine for 18 days in an isolated area of Anápolis Air Base. Also, the people will be first evaluated before boarding the plane. Those with any symptom won't be allowed in. Bolsonaro's first words about the case were: "if we have a few dozens people there, we have 210 millions of Brazilians here". The government has ordered full alert once the plane lands in Brazil with the passengers from Wuhan this Saturday.


Also, the number of suspected cases has dropped from 11 to 9



Now that is really taking this shit seriously :

Nah, consider these people are in charge, they need to be extra careful because they will be dealing with a lot of people.
 
Of course the actual number is higher. I've explained this earlier.
Here's how it's gathered:
Hospitals report numbers to county/low level officials
Low level officials report numbers to higher level officials, that of the province level or a nearby major city
Then the province level officials gather the numbers and send it off to the state which releases them

It's the typical "roundoff error", however in this case, people can lie.

So basically hospitals can lie to officials to make the situation look less severe, county level officials can lie to province level officials to make themselves look better.
Province level officials lying would be stupid, but they can too.

There's plenty of clips showing body bags and stuff. The actual number is likely 800-1000 if I were to guess. Double what the officials claim.
Don't forget how they actually categorize people who died of the Coronavirus, you can only be declared dead of the Coronavirus if you were in a hospital without a preexisting condition. If you're diagnosed, leave and die, you're not declared as having died of the Coronavirus, or if you had a preexisting condition before entering the hospital & you're diagnosed with the Coronavirus, the preexisting condition is considered your cause of death.

They just have all sorts of ways of obfuscating how people really died, and that's before they even begin to just outright lie about it.
 
COLOMBIA: From a teacher trapped in Chengdu, where things aren't yet that bad (just translating the most important points:

"Whenever I'm back to my building, after buying some fruit, the watchman takes his plastic pistol-shaped white thermometer, points at my forehead, a "blimp" sounds, checks, and lets me in. This is one of the new precautions against Coronavirus, as it's wearing a mask when you're outside, they also recommend wearing gloves and avoid touch your face with your hands and always wash them well for 20 seconds. Luckily, here in Chengdu, the crisis hasn't yet been that bad, although we aren't yet officially in quarantine, they'te advised us to only leave to buy the most necessary, avoid crowded places, and, if possible, work from home."

"In Chengdu, with a population of 15M, so far only 97 people are sick and only one has died. Part of this success in Sichuan is because governor Yin Li is a doctor who worked for the Ministry of Health and had experience from the SARS crisis in 2003."

About numbers: "(..)The government has said they want to be more transparent to inform and control the situation better. According to BBC, the Hong Kong university calculates the number of infected should be around 75K people and, today, China publishes officially the following numbers: 29,070 infected, 24,702 suspected, 1219 recovered and 564 deaths. Local and international media (NYT, BBC, Guardian) say the virus is less contagious when compared with SARS, Ebola or Zika. Most deaths have been people older than 60 who already had breathing problems. These news help you to feel better and understand the virus is lethal only for a small percent of the population."

"January 24, one day after the quarantine in Wuhan started, the management office in the residential block where I live did a census, door by door, to know how many people there were, if anybody had visited Wuhan and if someone had any fever symptom. They also gave us information in case of emergency and advised us to avoid leaving."

He also said people are somehow worried about the economy but they feel lucky they live in a place where they know won't lack any food because it's fertile. He said instant noodles are always in stock. He also mentioned the government has promised they will later help boosting back the economy.

About the mood among people:

"Sichuan University (where I work) has sent 25 doctors and nurses to help in Wuhan. We're expected to start classes in Feb. 24, but it's not confirmed, no education institution has given an exact date to start classes. With the situation as it is, I imagine they are cancelling the semester as it happened during SARS.

I dont' think it will happen here, but they're considering the idea of online classes, which is something I've seen Chinese salsa teachers do with intention of share and ease the spirt of people. From their homes, they've been streaming with their cellphones classes of salsa, bachata, kizomba, etc. Yesterday, they had more than 81,555 viewers."

source: https://www.elespectador.com/notici...-plena-crisis-del-coronavirus-articulo-903382
 
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Indian here.
5123 people were under home surveillance as a precautionary measure for coronavirus. At least 741 tests for nCoV have been done so far. Of these 738 have tested NEGATIVE, and 3 found positive.
Unsurprising considering these were found in the South, a region with humidity, uncleanliness and farming. They have been taken to Govt. hospitals for testing and care. Their condition atm is stable, non threatening. All Indian flights to China are suspended and India evacuated all Indians from Wuhan(647) successfully.
Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
 
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Dr.Li is dead (for real this time)

Missus and I were talking about this tonight. Weibo and Wechat are broiling alive right now with uncontrolled outrage about Dr. Li's death. Nobody is buying the "three hours of CPR" tactic the CCP is using to try and show they didn't just let him die. Everyone thinks this is a major conspiracy and Dr. Li might be the canary in the coal mine for the coming unrest that is going to foment in China. This isn't frustration at local leaders or institutions: this is rage directed towards the Communist Party as a whole.

Do I think the CCCP is going to fall? Eeehhh. I wouldn't make that bet. I'm wagering most of the PLA combat troops and logistics troops are being cooped up on bases for such an eventuality. If it came to it, the CCP would not be ashamed to let some 19-year-old kid in a Type 96 MBT mow down a crowd of protesters with his coaxial gun if it came down to it. We're already seeing them locking people away in death camps. You think they care about shooting them?

The only chance China has is if a large enough faction in the PLA breaks away and receives outside assistance from a major power(s); preferably NATO and perhaps even Russia. But China simply doesn't have the culture to make that likely. If anything, a lot of PLA commanders are even battier than Party politicians are.
 
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