Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Look, if you want to buy a P100 mask and learn about it, it's fucking easy.

If you can teach 17 year old high school dropouts who have been inbred since the time of King James to use full NBC MOPP protocol, including proper decon, I'm pretty sure you can read the fucking manuals, read the instructions, and learn all of it. I mean, powerlevel a bit, I taught 5 year old children how to use their M17 gas mask because we lived near an industrial chemical site with a bad record I'm pretty sure you can learn.

I linked before the proper US Army and US Navy procedures for dealing with fitting your mask, proper wear of protective gear, and proper decon. Buy your mask, read the instructions carefully, and learn your decon.

Biggest hint: Wash your hands by brushing in downward strokes toward your fingers, not little circles.

Second Biggest Hint: Don't lick the Chinese Uber driver.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

This reminds me of reading about how the Soviet secret police would pick people up at night during the Purges of the 30's. Just like loading a couple of pieces of meat into a van. Funny how the metal box fits so well into the bad of the truck, as if designed for just that purpose.

Every day this kind of thing happens, and every time this gets out to the world, China shows their true colors. Humans don't matter. Acknowledging a person's humanity doesn't matter. Only the needs of the CCP matter.

And I wonder if the CCP is thusly sowing the wind that begets the whirlwind.

It reminds me of the Gestapo rounding people up in cars and taking them away. Which is pretty ironic to me because didn't the CCP accuse Israel of being like the Holocaust for banning them?

 

[ADHD]

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Update:
Memology: Chen Qiushi Is Missing 2/7/2020 2:02 minutes
My take. You already have been warned on what the CCP will do in my previous postings.

Chen Qiushi Is Missing

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I'll hold you onto that.

This video was posted under his channel and going by the comments he gave his account password to his friends so they could still inform viewers if anything happened to him. It is not currently translated.

 

[Bob's Fries]

Look, if you want to buy a P100 mask and learn about it, it's fucking easy.

If you can teach 17 year old high school dropouts who have been inbred since the time of King James to use full NBC MOPP protocol, including proper decon, I'm pretty sure you can read the fucking manuals, read the instructions, and learn all of it. I mean, powerlevel a bit, I taught 5 year old children how to use their M17 gas mask because we lived near an industrial chemical site with a bad record I'm pretty sure you can learn.

I linked before the proper US Army and US Navy procedures for dealing with fitting your mask, proper wear of protective gear, and proper decon. Buy your mask, read the instructions carefully, and learn your decon.

Biggest hint: Wash your hands by brushing in downward strokes toward your fingers, not little circles.

Second Biggest Hint: Don't lick the Chinese Uber driver.

Would be great if we got a megathread about this to organize it.

 

[Without A Gout]

Have not heard anything of it happening via a bug bite but that would be really bad if it did if you add how it affects people now.

Update:
Memology: Chen Qiushi Is Missing 2/7/2020 2:02 minutes
My take. You already have been warned on what the CCP will do in my previous postings.

Chen Qiushi Is Missing

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Yes... "missing". We all know what this means: Three bullets to the back of the head for "rumor-mongering".

 

[RodgerDodger]

Nice to have other outlets confirming that we have no idea what the real death toll is and that China has been fuck all transparent.
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In that case they're not actually lying. Coronavirus is a Viral Pneumonia. I'm sure the Chinese numbers regarding deaths and infected people are pure bullshit. But stop chasing whatever the leading number the idiots in the media spit out. It's never the whole picture, because the media are complete simpletons.

To assess Death's first we would need to know what the actual baseline for normal seasonal death's is in the area. And ideally some baseline for how many flu or pneumonia deaths typically occur in the winter months. (a lot it's a common way for frail old people to die). Knowing that we can then ask how much above the baseline is the current deaths? And is Corona Virus above and beyond expected seasonal Flu/Pneumonia deaths or is it simply replacing them? ie this years flavor of them? Categorizing the Death as Viral Pneumonia simply means they don't have a formal Coronavirus test result back. And they might not as test kits are in short supply. It's probably best to assume that any reported Viral Pneumonia Death is probably Coronavirus.

For all the blatant lies, bullshit and misinformation the CCP spits out about this, this one seems an odd complaint about what is technically accurate syntax.

Would be great if we got a megathread about this to organize it.

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Removing gloves

 

[Shaka Brah]

Can this be carried by mosquito or some other insect?

It's not really worth worrying about. Touching door handles, talking to other human beings, and being in the general vicinity of sick people is also how it's transmitted and that's way more likely and way more effective. Most mosquito-borne diseases are specifically linked to highly specific mosquito species possessing the traits necessary to keep them active (or they're parasites like Malaria, which are also only carried by one species of mosquito).

I'm thinking the Virus may have far better persistence in the environment than anyone is admitting. But even then, WTF are they doing. Has anyone ever seen trucks like that? And if so what is their normal use? Just watching the spray pattern from the trucks I can't fathom what it is they are trying to do, beyond "disinfect the street behind them"? The mist isn't going up or spreading outwards, so it's meant to dissinfect surfaces? If so they would be better with a more traditional sprinkler system? Hosing down surfaces with disinfectant.

Maybe they are spraying Medical Marijuana into the city to mellow out the populace? It makes as much sense as anything else they are doing.

As for the other thing... wow! They are digging a deep pit... in the quarantine zone... Can anybody come up with a reason for that that doesn't end in "Mass Grave"? Because I've got nuthin'!

These are aerosol dispersal trucks for DDT and other mosquito-killing chemicals. They used to use them on neighborhoods in Hawaii to kill off mosquitoes in the 50s and 60s but it's now known to cause reduced lung capacity in children so no first-world country will use them. That doesn't bode well for China because a pervasive vapor might help the virus survive, and it will definitely weaken the lungs of sufferers or the uninfected.

As for what's in them, it could be anything tbh. Dilute alcohol? Deet? Dilute bleach? Who knows. It could even just be Polyethylene Glycol in solution with water (the base of vape juice) just to fake them doing something.

This may be a bit of a powerlevel but I can identify a lot of industrial chemicals by smell. If someone finds a description of some Chinese guy saying how this fogger/mister juice smells please quote or @ me because I'm really curious.

 

[JosephStalin]

Yes... "missing". We all know what this means: Three bullets to the back of the head for "rumor-mongering".

The CCP doesn't seem to realize they have lost. They can "quarantine" people, they can kill people, but the people will not stop telling the world the truth. Pray for these brave men and women. The CCP has demonstrated they care only about saving "face". Anyone who looks at the material about these "instant hospitals" will realize that in just a few moments. Having hundreds, if not a couple of thousand, beds/mattresses packed into a relatively small, confined space isn't the best environment for people suffering from coronavirus/pneumonia/flu/etc. Opportunities galore for cross-infection. You KNOW the hospitals maintained for the CCP elite will take every precaution to prevent cross-infection; money is no object when caring for these people. The Emperor and his mandarins prosper at the expense of the people, and don't give a fuck about the people at all.

The CCP is not creating one martyr, but an entire group, whose names will not be forgotten, at least in Wuhan.

 

[Consenticles]

Ok so I like to play devils advocate. Just want to provide a tin foil hat conspiracy, for the sake of theory crafting.

Let's assume for a minute that China's claim of the US releasing this virus, and possibly the other two flus that are present in livestock, is true. Probably not. But anything is possible, since the US has done some fucky shit in the past.

Why would the US want to do this?

I can think of a few reasons. The first being that China's greatest strength is its workforce and population. Disable this and you really push china into a corner. I think it would be easy for any expert to simply look at chinas infrastructure and pinpoint their lacking healthcare system as a huge vulnerability.

If you want to destabilize China, you only have so many options. War is unthinkable. Escalating tensions into unfriendly territory is also a terrible option, given the political climate in the US.

But imagine Trump, pondering what he can do about the China problem, or perhaps even what he can do to revive the industrial complex in the US, is presented with some ideas. Some ballsy fucker trying to suck up to trump suggests that we can release a bioweapon, and no one will be able to trace it back to the US. Of course such a virus cannot be too fatal for western healthcare to treat it, but what if it was contagious enough that it had the ability to completely cripple a lesser nation? While also targeting a specific genetic trait found only in asians.

Beyond China, you also may gain an opening to cripple North Korea as well. Since daddy china cant afford to provide aid or trade. Even better, what if the virus drifts into North Korea and destabilizes it?

Now, there are some reasons why this is a stupid theory. The first being that unleashing a bioweapon is fucking insane and dangerous beyond belief. Second is that you are dealing with nuclear nations. If destabilized, who the fuck knows who will get their hands on those nukes. Then theres the economic toll that the damage to China will bring, worldwide.

Just my 2cents, but I love to theorize.

 

[PumpkinSpiceBitchMeringue]

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[Arctic Fox]

Ok so I like to play devils advocate. Just want to provide a tin foil hat conspiracy, for the sake of theory crafting.

Let's assume for a minute that China's claim of the US releasing this virus, and possibly the other two flus that are present in livestock, is true. Probably not. But anything is possible, since the US has done some fucky shit in the past.

Why would the US want to do this?

I can think of a few reasons. The first being that China's greatest strength is its workforce and population. Disable this and you really push china into a corner. I think it would be easy for any expert to simply look at chinas infrastructure and pinpoint their lacking healthcare system as a huge vulnerability.

If you want to destabilize China, you only have so many options. War is unthinkable. Escalating tensions into unfriendly territory is also a terrible option, given the political climate in the US.

But imagine Trump, pondering what he can do about the China problem, or perhaps even what he can do to revive the industrial complex in the US, is presented with some ideas. Some ballsy fucker trying to suck up to trump suggests that we can release a bioweapon, and no one will be able to trace it back to the US. Of course such a virus cannot be too fatal for western healthcare to treat it, but what if it was contagious enough that it had the ability to completely cripple a lesser nation? While also targeting a specific genetic trait found only in asians.

Beyond China, you also may gain an opening to cripple North Korea as well. Since daddy china cant afford to provide aid or trade. Even better, what if the virus drifts into North Korea and destabilizes it?

Now, there are some reasons why this is a stupid theory. The first being that unleashing a bioweapon is fucking insane and dangerous beyond belief. Second is that you are dealing with nuclear nations. If destabilized, who the fuck knows who will get their hands on those nukes. Then theres the economic toll that the damage to China will bring, worldwide.

Just my 2cents, but I love to theorize.

I don't put it past the U.S. gov't to be honest. they've tested bio-weapons on San Francisco multiple times.
Here's a video on it.

Odds are 60/40 in favor of it being a Chinese bio-weapon in my opinion.

 

[Otterly]

Food/supply shortages could cause a bunch of second-order deaths, especially in conjunction with power shortages/blackouts and failures in trash collection.

This, in a nutshell, is what a successful bio weapon does. I’m not saying this is one because I don’t think we have evidence either way yet, but a bioweapon attack isn’t designed to kill everyone, it’s designed to cripple society. Whether it is or it isn’t, the effects are the same.
What we in the west should be doing is examining very closely exactly what has failed in terms of logistics and infrastructure and learning from it. Where are the weaknesses in our food supplies? How do we keep water purification and power working? Where are the crunch points? Do we need more stockpiles of specific things or to diversify our supply lines? What early warnings systems would work? What king of quarantines work? Do we need more research into rapid vaccine platforms?
We are watching in real time what happens when an infectious agent cripples a country and we need to be learning from it.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Malaria kills millions every year, that's your worry if you're in a malaria zone (which exists in southwest China for the record, but not in Wu Han) and are dumb enough to think you're the big bad boss who doesn't need to take malarial prophylactics and use DEET. Having known enough people who thought malaria was for other people and caught the disease while fucking about in some jungle or tropical holiday, and who either suffer malarial attacks to this day or actually died, I can safely say the main risk from mosquitos isn't any kind of flu. Mozzies carry enough vile disease, but flus of any kind including of the SARS-type aren't among them.

The spraying is just the CCP induging in another visual pantomime to appear to be in control of the situation. same as the nurses cutting their hair off. That was purely done to try to impress idiots too. Why the fuck else would they spray pavements, seriously, when the disease is spread by close contact and droplet infection in the same way as normal flu and colds? Do people in China lick pavements on the regular? No. They don't. There is no appreciable risk of getting the virus from a pavement, where as there is major risk in sharing space with infected people, and having contact with people who do not wash their hands with soap or being trapped in enclosed spaces with infections and poor hygiene. They can spray all the streets they want with whatever that is - and it could even be water for all we know, why waste disinfectant for no purpose - and it'll do precisely fuck all to contain the disease they are actively spreading by herding people in squalid shacks and packing them six deep without heat, medicine or basic hygiene facilities.

 

[Ow The Edge]

The CCP doesn't seem to realize they have lost. They can "quarantine" people, they can kill people, but the people will not stop telling the world the truth. Pray for these brave men and women. The CCP has demonstrated they care only about saving "face". Anyone who looks at the material about these "instant hospitals" will realize that in just a few moments. Having hundreds, if not a couple of thousand, beds/mattresses packed into a relatively small, confined space isn't the best environment for people suffering from coronavirus/pneumonia/flu/etc. Opportunities galore for cross-infection. You KNOW the hospitals maintained for the CCP elite will take every precaution to prevent cross-infection; money is no object when caring for these people. The Emperor and his mandarins prosper at the expense of the people, and don't give a fuck about the people at all.

The CCP is not creating one martyr, but an entire group, whose names will not be forgotten, at least in Wuhan.

I want to believe you, I really do, but the problem is that the CCP has a track record of overcoming situations that should have seen the end of them with bald faced lies and sheer brute force. From the tens of millions Mao starved to death in the Great Leap Forward to the time Tienanmen Square where absolutely nothing happened honest, they've killed a lot of people before and gotten away with it. Honestly even if the news were to spread I can think of little that would prevent them from just slaughtering the populace into compliance, unless the PLA is considerably less resolute than I think it is.

 

[Traummaschine]

Truly fascinating to see the shit their state media puts out:

New China TV

Welcome to the official YouTube Channel of Xinhua News Agency, one of the world's largest news gathering and distributing organizations. Supported by corresp...

www.youtube.com

Like this, which is so clearly scripted:

Chinese nurse in coronavirus-hit hospital gives her sobbing daughter "air hug"

A Chinese nurse in a coronavirus-hit hospital in Henan Province gives her sobbing daughter an "air hug." #coronavirus

www.youtube.com

 

[Tikbalang]

I believe there are two of how the virus was made and spread.

• Climate change, pollution and sanitization: mosquitos got their virus because they lay eggs on a contaminated water, same goes for wildlife and bad people eating them
• Bioweapon: we've seen Resident Evil games and Plague inc. and we know how it goes. Only this time, it got leaked and their looking for scapegoats.

It's just a speculation but I'm certain it's man made

Truly fascinating to see the shit their state media puts out:

New China TV

Welcome to the official YouTube Channel of Xinhua News Agency, one of the world's largest news gathering and distributing organizations. Supported by corresp...

www.youtube.com

Like this, which is so clearly scripted:

Chinese nurse in coronavirus-hit hospital gives her sobbing daughter "air hug"

A Chinese nurse in a coronavirus-hit hospital in Henan Province gives her sobbing daughter an "air hug." #coronavirus

www.youtube.com

I wish the government killing people is scripted as well

 

[HonsPonzud]

Truly fascinating to see the shit their state media puts out:

New China TV

Welcome to the official YouTube Channel of Xinhua News Agency, one of the world's largest news gathering and distributing organizations. Supported by corresp...

www.youtube.com

Like this, which is so clearly scripted:

Chinese nurse in coronavirus-hit hospital gives her sobbing daughter "air hug"

A Chinese nurse in a coronavirus-hit hospital in Henan Province gives her sobbing daughter an "air hug." #coronavirus

www.youtube.com

Wow... The level of "sanitized" carefully chosen and acted content on these youtube channels is so transparent. Looks like they are filming these either in a closed down area around hong kong or in large scale studios, most shots have almost no people in these hopsitals, wich is one of many things that show how fake it is.

 

[Jarolleon]

Ok so I like to play devils advocate. Just want to provide a tin foil hat conspiracy, for the sake of theory crafting.

Let's assume for a minute that China's claim of the US releasing this virus, and possibly the other two flus that are present in livestock, is true. Probably not. But anything is possible, since the US has done some fucky shit in the past.

Why would the US want to do this?

I can think of a few reasons. The first being that China's greatest strength is its workforce and population. Disable this and you really push china into a corner. I think it would be easy for any expert to simply look at chinas infrastructure and pinpoint their lacking healthcare system as a huge vulnerability.

If you want to destabilize China, you only have so many options. War is unthinkable. Escalating tensions into unfriendly territory is also a terrible option, given the political climate in the US.

But imagine Trump, pondering what he can do about the China problem, or perhaps even what he can do to revive the industrial complex in the US, is presented with some ideas. Some ballsy fucker trying to suck up to trump suggests that we can release a bioweapon, and no one will be able to trace it back to the US. Of course such a virus cannot be too fatal for western healthcare to treat it, but what if it was contagious enough that it had the ability to completely cripple a lesser nation? While also targeting a specific genetic trait found only in asians.

Beyond China, you also may gain an opening to cripple North Korea as well. Since daddy china cant afford to provide aid or trade. Even better, what if the virus drifts into North Korea and destabilizes it?

Now, there are some reasons why this is a stupid theory. The first being that unleashing a bioweapon is fucking insane and dangerous beyond belief. Second is that you are dealing with nuclear nations. If destabilized, who the fuck knows who will get their hands on those nukes. Then theres the economic toll that the damage to China will bring, worldwide.

Just my 2cents, but I love to theorize.

That's pretty much what the original text of that claim was saying-that America wants to sabotage China because otherwise "CHINA NUMBA ONE" would become a reality.

 

[JosephStalin]

This, in a nutshell, is what a successful bio weapon does. I’m not saying this is one because I don’t think we have evidence either way yet, but a bioweapon attack isn’t designed to kill everyone, it’s designed to cripple society. Whether it is or it isn’t, the effects are the same.
What we in the west should be doing is examining very closely exactly what has failed in terms of logistics and infrastructure and learning from it. Where are the weaknesses in our food supplies? How do we keep water purification and power working? Where are the crunch points? Do we need more stockpiles of specific things or to diversify our supply lines? What early warnings systems would work? What king of quarantines work? Do we need more research into rapid vaccine platforms?
We are watching in real time what happens when an infectious agent cripples a country and we need to be learning from it.

I can assure you people working at certain places in the Washington area are studying this very closely indeed. These people will have access to information the average person doesn't have.

On a different subject, the people from China asked me to remove my 1-star Amazon feedback. I said no. Masks were not for me, but for a relative. The sellers didn't bother to let me know my stuff wasn't coming until I asked them. Feedback stays. Not the only one-star feedback there, either. NFG.

I want to believe you, I really do, but the problem is that the CCP has a track record of overcoming situations that should have seen the end of them with bald faced lies and sheer brute force. From the tens of millions Mao starved to death in the Great Leap Forward to the time Tienanmen Square where absolutely nothing happened honest, they've killed a lot of people before and gotten away with it. Honestly even if the news were to spread I can think of little that would prevent them from just slaughtering the populace into compliance, unless the PLA is considerably less resolute than I think it is.

This isn't 1958, 1962, 1967, 1976, or 1989. The CCP controlled the message in all but 1989. Here, they cannot stop all the people with cell phones sending videos. These are seen in real time by people around the world, like us.

The China of 2020 isn't the China of 1989. Today's China is integrated into the world economic system. It has pretensions to becoming a great power, if not a superpower. Projecting the image of a great power aspiring to become a superpower is vital. The CCP reaction to the virus outbreak shows the world the CCP simply will never be ready for prime time. Their glittering cities have terrible medical systems and even worse water systems, for starters. It's as if the curtain at the land of OZ was lifted, showing Emperor Xi flailing away. This Emperor has been proven to have no clothes.

Should the Chinese start massacring their own people, watch how fast economic sanctions hit them. We export relatively little to China. Suppliers who used to be in China moved to Vietnam, Indonesia, Mexico, back to the USA. Anyway, the CCP is beyond that. Easier to just let them die, in the "death houses", in their small apartments, in their villages.

 

[not william stenchever]

I'm leaning towards a catastrophic series of viral recombinations brought about by the wet market and its bushmeat. I'm 60/40 in that direction. But the 40/60 chance is that the BSL-4 lab had one or more personnel who were were studying an isolated virus and fucked up containment by doing something stupid (for example with the pig corpses)