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So that's good. Was wondering why there was an influx of masks being worn today in particular
I am very much hoping that my grandparents live no where close to these cases, they're already having enough health problems that would make it hard for them to recover from coronavirus. (:_(

I'm also super surprised that my area hasn't had any cases given its high chinese population of university exchange students, noticed some chinese students walking around campus with masks on but it's no higher than the norm for this season. Apparently, there has been an uptick of people going to the hospital with any kind of symptom they've heard might mean coronavirus, but it's just paranoia these situations cause. Hopefully it stays this way here because I doubt we would be able to deal with an actual outbreak, especially since we only have one quarantine room up to code that can fit one person and a couple "quarantine rooms" that wouldn't quarantine shit.
 
Twelve people in the U.S. have been confirmed to have the virus, but some of them have been released from the hospital, including a Chicago couple that is now home.

Why in the actual fuck would we be sending people who are confirmed infectious carriers home to pinky swear they won't come into contact with anyone else?

We are offering pakistan the oppurtunity to evacuate their citizens from wuhan, no word on that yet.

Shit like this is actually very cool--the idea that the virus might foster peace and cooperation between antagonists could be a silver lining to an otherwise shitty situation.
 
Shit like this is actually very cool--the idea that the virus might foster peace and cooperation between antagonists could be a silver lining to an otherwise shitty situation.
We already evac'ed Maldive and Bhutan citizens from Wuhan. Pakistan refuses to evac their citizens to "show support to china" I think its because china and pakis are allies with China holding the leash on pakis. Highly unlikely we will get pakis out of wuhan but it was a gesture of support.
 
Why in the actual fuck would we be sending people who are confirmed infectious carriers home to pinky swear they won't come into contact with anyone else?/QUOTE]

Me: From what Iv read the release comes with the stipulation of monitering by Sate and more importantly Federal Health Officials home confinement.

Hopefully it doesn't turn out the same as Kaci Hickox. Though they are both in their 60s, hopefully it translates into more maturity.

Edit: Im a idiot and can't quote for shit.
 
Won't happen. Eco-loons and left wing globalists have been blaming GMOs for everything and actively sabotaging biotech labs every chance they get, in great part because their pupeteers know damned well GMOs can fix climate change, and quickly too. And if climate changes thry don't get their propaganda tool.

Basically 90% of eco shit comes from France. I’ll probably get glownigged by French spooks but this is the run down:

>Early 70’s a bunch of Canadian and American marine biologists and ecologists start noticing that a lot of nuclear weapons testing was being done in the Pacific Ocean.
>They start GreenPeace, an environmentalist group that protests nuclear weapons testing mainly by sailing a boat directly into the nuclear test zone. (Old school GreenPeace were absolute mad lad hippies)
>The main countries testing nukes in the pacific at this point are the French and Americans.
>GreenPeace is so successful in disrupting the tests that the French send in their naval special forces to raid GreenPeace’s boat and beat the shit out of the protesters. This backfires and the bad PR leads to the French government having to (begrudgingly) suspend all of their nuclear weapons testing.
>US government also faces some testing setbacks, but not nearly as bad as the French.
>GreenPeace is even successful at hamstringing Soviet and Japanese Whaling operations.

>Some time passes and French intelligence realizes that these “eco-warriors” could be a useful asset if properly used.
>In the 1990s and 2000s these Eco-warriors start turning on “GMO” and the very technologically advanced American agriculture industry. (Frances main competitor in agriculture.)
>They even going so far as to “protest the US giving GMO food as aid to Zambia” (which was in a famine) and suggesting “They take an approach more like the European Union” hmmmmm.
>France also pushes anti-GMO rhetoric in the EU. (Mostly so that they can keep a competitive advantage in agriculture, since without industrialized agriculture, no-one else in Western Europe or Southern Europe can out-compete their geographic advantage)
>Due too access to Middle East oil being hamstrung by the US, well basically confiscating the Suez Canal from France and giving it to Egypt, France chooses to develop an extremely robust (and expensive) Nuclear Program.
>However if other countries were to hamstring their own access to fossil fuels, perhaps through a little “eco-activism” that would put France at a competitive advantage in industry.
>Coincidentally Fossil fuels also get targeted during the 90s. Marking the start of Global Warming entering the public’s zeitgeist.

Now I’m not saying that Green Peace is representative of the whole environmentalist movement, or that GreenPeace has been puppeteered by the French for 40 years, but GreenPeace has been totally puppeteered by France for 40 years.
>To this day the GreenPeace chapters in the US and in Britain consider themselves separate from the wider “international” GreenPeace organization. Which was mainly financed by European Capital.
>A split which coincidentally happened in 1979.

Keep in mind that France is the number 2 greatest foreign intelligence threat according to the US government.

TL;DR Trump was wrong, It wasn’t the Chinese who invented global warming, it was the French.
 
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Guys, I remember @Null posted that the p100 masks had an equivalence in foreign markets, do you know which are? Gonna by them for the family JUST IN CASE. I've found the 95 types, but not p100.

Now, updates:

BRAZIL:
Bolsonaro already approved a new law related to health emergencies like this. The law includes indications on how to handle isolation and quarantine in case of needing them, establishing mandatory procedures such as medical tests, lab tests, vaccinations, etc. It also gives special permission to the import of related health products. Every procedure must be backed by "scientific evidence", according to the paper. Also, every person who's been affected by this law will be treated without cost and will have the right of constant information about their status.

There's also a few people mad because Bolsonaro helped evacuating Polish people from Wuhan rather than South Americans, especially Argentinians. People in twitter claim is because of Bolsonaro's politics and opinions about Argentina and how Poland is a "religious ally". Seems to be more about logistics: the plane will have to do a scale in Poland. It makes sense Poland would allow them to land there IF they bring back their own people because something related to permits for a plane to be there (most of this is in portuguese, I'm just translating on the go).

17 hours ago, Bolsonaro tweeted a video of the team flying to Wuhan. There is no much information about how the team is doing there as they will stay for about 24 hours before boarding the plane.

Still not one single confirmed case in Latin America besides the Argetinian in the Japanese cruiseship. There are Chileans and Peruvians there, all still healthy although in isolation according to the Chilean man:

"We cannot leave the rooms and the food is brought by people quite equipped with masks and gloves(..). They bring the food, we open the door and put the empty plates out."


The peruvians in the ship work there and they are healthy according to the Peru ambassador in Japan. They all will be in quarantine until Feb. 14.

Other minor news:

Bolivia: Patient suspected of coronavirus tests positive for dengue he got in Singapore.
Ecuador: Chinese patient who tested negative for Coronavirus died of pneumonia.
 
While we're discussing such thoughts, my money is on accidental release, especially after hearing about the lab workers eating eggs meant for the facility, etc. The biggest tell for me was the fact they tried to hush it up for something over two months. Not the really reaction of a government had it been attacked by an enemy. If this were someone else's shit, the Chinese would have been screaming bloody murder in Dec. But they knew it was theirs and were hoping on mopping it up before anyone noticed. I also think an intentional release would have been a bit more dramatic and not have taken 6 weeks or more to get attention. ETA: They also wouldn't have gone through this whole tortured 'wet market/bat/snake/pango-fucking-lin charade if there was any chance of blaming another country for it.

Also there are several major factories with US ties in Wuhan. Foxconn, in particular, which make parts for MS, Apple, and other US companies. Not to mention closures of Disney, etc. If the US was targeting China, I doubt they would have lobbed this stinker where they did. This is messing with American supply lines and economy as well.

If this was intentional, I would look at states who dislike China and would love to get a dig in at the US in the process, but I really think this was a case of someone either not washing properly as they left the facility or someone bringing some tasty bat either home or to the wet market.
 
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Whats weird about it is. At this point there is a bigger crisis in regards to society breaking down. Food shortages medical shortages etc.

It makes sense to get your people out of the area because then they become one less problem for the local government.

You're not thinking like a Communist loyal to the Party and state. The point isn't practicality. The point is showing ideological loyalty, even if it kills you and everyone around you. Image is everything to them.
 

 
So the 3rd UK case is a British national who returned from a business conference in Singapore where the disease did the rounds. He was apparently in contact with a bunch of people in France before coming back to Britain and they have now all come down with the disease themselves. Brilliant.


Five Britons have tested positive for coronavirus in eastern France, the French health minister confirmed.

Four adults and a child were diagnosed with the virus after coming into contact with a British national who recently returned from Singapore.

That man returned to the UK on 28 January before being diagnosed with the virus himself on Thursday.

The five Britons, who stayed in the same ski chalet, were not in a serious condition, French officials said.

French authorities are closing two schools next week attended by the child with the virus, a nine-year-old boy who lives in the ski resort of Contamines-Montjoie with his family.

There have been almost 35,000 cases of the coronavirus globally, mostly in China. The latest incident stems from a man who became the UK's third confirmed case when he tested positive on his return to Brighton.

The Briton had stayed in Singapore on a business trip from 20 to 23 January, the French health ministry said.

He arrived at Contamines-Montjoie, in Haute-Savoie, on 24 January for a four-day trip, before returning to England on 28 January.

On his return to the UK, he is thought to have isolated himself at home and called NHS 111. After a positive test, he was taken to St Thomas' Hospital in London where he is being treated.

Public Health England also advised a student at Portslade Aldridge Community Academy in Brighton to self-isolate for 14 days, as part of their investigation into this case of coronavirus. The school said it had been advised by health authorities that there was no need to close.

The Brighton man told UK authorities that he had visited a chalet in Contamines-Montjoie, prompting French officials to take the 11 Britons staying there to hospitals in Lyon, Saint-Etienne and Grenoble on Friday night.

The chalet has two apartments where two families were staying, French authorities said in a news conference. A British couple and their three children, who are now resident in France, lived in one. The mother is in the UK at the moment and has been contacted.

Seven of their friends were staying in the other apartment.

Those with the virus are the father of the family resident in France and his nine-year-old son, as well as three members of the visiting family.

The nine-year-old boy attends the local school and has French classes at another school in St-Gervais. Both schools will be shut next week, and parents are being asked to keep their children under observation.

A crisis unit has been set up as a result of the new cases.

It comes as four members of the same British family were admitted to hospital in Majorca after contact with a coronavirus carrier.

They are being tested at the University Hospital of Son Espases in Palma.

The British family said they had been in contact with a person who recently tested positive for the virus in France, the government in Spain's Balearic Islands said.

Meanwhile, a British man transferred from a cruise ship off the coast of Japan on Friday after testing positive for the virus is said to be feeling well and in good spirits.

Alan Steele, from Wolverhampton, on his honeymoon with his wife Wendy, was among 61 people to be taken off the ship for hospital treatment.

She has been in telephone contact with her husband, and said in a Facebook post on Saturday that he was still feeling healthy.
 
So the 3rd UK case is a British national who returned from a business conference in Singapore where the disease did the rounds. He was apparently in contact with a bunch of people in France before coming back to Britain and they have now all come down with the disease themselves. Brilliant.


If there's one thing I hope comes from this, it's the expectation of handshakes at 'formal meetings' being killed off. There's been soooo many times I've been at job interviews or conferences where there's an expectation of a handshake and no opportunity to immediately wash my hands.
 
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While we're discussing such thoughts, my money is on accidental release, especially after hearing about the lab workers eating eggs meant for the facility, etc. The biggest tell for me was the fact they tried to hush it up for something over two months. Not the really reaction of a government had it been attacked by an enemy. If this were someone else's shit, the Chinese would have been screaming bloody murder in Dec. But they knew it was theirs and were hoping on mopping it up before anyone noticed. I also think an intentional release would have been a bit more dramatic and not have taken 6 weeks or more to get attention.

Also there are several major factories with US ties in Wuhan. Foxconn, in particular, which make parts for MS, Apple, and other US companies. Not to mention closures of Disney, etc. If the US was targeting China, I doubt they would have lobbed this stinker where they did. This is messing with American supply lines and economy as well.

If this was intentional, I would look at states who dislike China and would love to get a dig in at the US in the process, but I really think this was a case of someone either not washing properly as they left the facility or someone bringing some tasty bat either home or to the wet market.
Why not both? Thats what happen to Africa during the 2014 ebola panic. There were two strains of ebola running at that time. One that came from the Congo, patient zero in this case was a pregnant woman who had eaten some bushmeat. This strand was fairly typical and like most ebola outbreaks stayed rural. The second strand had a toddler as patient zero and I'm not sure of the cause in that case but in that particular part of Africa they had very Victorian funeral rights. It's the families duty to prepare the body. The childs body was CARRIED to multiply villages so that various family members could say goodbye. Needless to say these family members all got sick and died, the village healer who had tended to the family got frightened and went to a clinic in the city and BOOM ebola was introduced into a dense urban population . To make matters even worse this strand was more infectious than previous versions of ebola.
 
There is a security guard I have to pass often who drives me crazy telling people that the coronavirus originated and was created in the USA and is being used for population control. Even the half-wits around her are like, hmmm I'm pretty sure it originated in China. I try to remind myself it's not worth the energy engaging with her.

She also thinks the underground structures under the Denver International Airport are concentration camps. :stress:
 
There is a security guard I have to pass often who drives me crazy telling people that the coronavirus originated and was created in the USA and is being used for population control. Even the half-wits around her are like, hmmm I'm pretty sure it originated in China. I try to remind myself it's not worth the energy engaging with her.

She also thinks the underground structures under the Denver International Airport are concentration camps. :stress:
I've been following this on a couple of news aggregators as well. I've quit reading the comments there because the signal to noise ratio has become so great. Who knew KF and /pol/ were relative bastions of sanity.
 
We already evac'ed Maldive and Bhutan citizens from Wuhan. Pakistan refuses to evac their citizens to "show support to china" I think its because china and pakis are allies with China holding the leash on pakis. Highly unlikely we will get pakis out of wuhan but it was a gesture of support.

It's sad and makes me MOTI that there are governments (actually, most of them) who are willing to throw their own citizens under the bus for their own selfish interests. I'm sure that if it were Pakistani officials who were suddenly trapped in Wuhan instead and seeing all those dead bodies carted around, they'd waste no time in jetting off out of there, show of support be damned.
 
The problem with the US origin hypothesis is that the Pentagon, White House staff and Glow-in-the-darks have no loyalty to the President and our plans would have been leaked long ago. CIA could have possibly done it on their own but it'd be too effective and competently done for me to easily believe it.

If this was intended to be a bioweapon (which I doubt) I think it would make the most sense as an unintended release of an early version of a strain intended to paralyze Taiwan or pacify a rebelling Hong Kong. Release it on them, China reacts in a super competent way to contain the disease, moves in troops to provide humanitarian aid. The ringleaders of resistance die in hospitals and are quickly cremated and China #1 Biotech turns out a vaccine in record time. The international community claps.
 
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