Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

I also have to reiterate how people should deal with these vindictive bullies as I think a lot of people have dealt with them the same way. These guys will not stop, even if you ignore them and try your hardest with Non-violence, because their objective is to put anyone down to make themselves feel superior. This is the nature of people ranging from school bullies to ANTIFA thugs. They THRIVE on people being put down.

However, their main deterrent is fear, and the most obvious is the fear of retribution. A lot of faggots scream about how "violence isn't the solution" or "revenge is not the way", but in reality, when they fear having MASSIVE punishments for the shit they cause, they will generally not do that because they're also cowards. They thrive off of control, and the loss of that control is their biggest fear. It is exactly like the scenario where you manage to beat the living shit out of a big school bully of yours. That bully stays away from you because he doesn't want another can of ass-kicking, and the loss of control echoes to others saying "he's not as strong as he looks. Don't be afraid of him."

It's only inevitable that people will see this as the main solution, since fear is often an effective tactic to deter someone from fucking with you.
 
So you are telling me that SJWs are even more dangerous than terrorists ?
Damn, that's scary.
Not more dangerous in terms of life and limb, but objectively worse people.

I personally think one should treat them the same way one would treat the terrorists: leave them the fuck alone if they're not targeting you and yours. You're not a caped crusader, heroics are for TV and the movies. If they want to come after you, take that shit right to 10 immediately, and simply don't broadcast what it is you're doing.

No, it won't make the world a better place, but chances are good you'll be left in peace posthaste.
 
I also have to reiterate how people should deal with these vindictive bullies as I think a lot of people have dealt with them the same way. These guys will not stop, even if you ignore them and try your hardest with Non-violence, because their objective is to put anyone down to make themselves feel superior. This is the nature of people ranging from school bullies to ANTIFA thugs. They THRIVE on people being put down.

However, their main deterrent is fear, and the most obvious is the fear of retribution. A lot of faggots scream about how "violence isn't the solution" or "revenge is not the way", but in reality, when they fear having MASSIVE punishments for the shit they cause, they will generally not do that because they're also cowards. They thrive off of control, and the loss of that control is their biggest fear. It is exactly like the scenario where you manage to beat the living shit out of a big school bully of yours. That bully stays away from you because he doesn't want another can of ass-kicking, and the loss of control echoes to others saying "he's not as strong as he looks. Don't be afraid of him."

It's only inevitable that people will see this as the main solution, since fear is often an effective tactic to deter someone from fucking with you.

I think the Andy Ngo thing showed how cowardly these people are. They thought it was funny to throw milkshakes at people. Then someone put concrete in one and damn near killed a gay Asian man.

Now milkshakes aren't funny any more. No one talks about milkshakes. They all dropped that tactic once they realized they might get smacked for it.
 
OK, time to get back to business with a review of Part 2 of Cajun Samurai's / Joshua Knighten's the Broly Backlash.
Part 1, he interviewed MarzGurl, who showed herself to be a fucking hypocrite.
In this part, he interviews a minor player in the Weeb Wars and fellow KVer, DigiRanma.


Hey guys, Samurai here once again with Part 2 of my multi-part series looking back at the scandal that rocked the anime community one year ago. If you haven’t read my first post where I interviewed the awesome Kaylyn Saucedo, please go back and check it out before going onwards because it’s a really great read, if I do say so myself, and she was such a sport to let me interview her!

Now, this next interview I did was with a good friend of mine on Twitter, DigiRamna. I’ve known Digi for a couple years now through our love of anime and heckling bad movies, and I suppose through this scandal, I got to know him a good bit more. He’s a PRODIGIOUS guy and has had more than his fair share of harassment from the more extreme corner of the Vic Mignogna fandom. But he takes it all in his stride and punches back with an intelect that some on the other side only dream of. I sat down with him and chewed the proverbial fat to see what exactly went down, and where exactly do we go from here.


Cajun Samurai: You’ve been following along with this whole case from the beginning. It’s been a long effing year, suffice it to say. How much of an impact do you think this has had on the anime community?

DigiRanma: On the one hand, I think it’s divisive, but on the other not the way most people think. Most of the Vickers, who I call the fanboys that keep saying that’s a dragon on their heads, are acting out because they ether already thought the way he does, think it’s an attack on them, or they’re going after a “Good Christian Man” for his job/faith. Those who are actual anime fans, or even his sane fanbase, understand reality and ether accept what’s happened or are waiting without going off the rails.

Samurai: Ah, I see where you’re coming from. Now you know you and I have both been put on blast by the “ISWV” [“I Stand With Vic”] group, and in fact, we’ve both been mentioned a couple times on Kiwi Farms…and you’ll be surprised to know, not too flatteringly. What’s the worst interaction you’ve had with one of Mignogna’s die-hard defenders?

[Editors Note – For any of the Kiwi Farm members who happen upon my blog post. Yes, I did write Digimon Fanfiction back in the day. It was fun and I took great enjoyment in it. I hope you liked it too!]

DigiRanma: Oh Lord…can I have a minute? I’ve had everything from “Hair grabbing is not assault” to all the messes I’ve had with Zero, including defending the industry as a whole from him, AND moments where, not even kidding, Vickers said “Wait, Vic has to prove it? Whose dumb idea was that?” The most HILARIOUS is whenever a Vicker said the entire state/legal system of Texas was out to get this ONE GUY.

[Editor’s Note – Just as a reminder, the lawsuit in question was filed by Mignogna. In the US Legal system, the burden of proof is on the Plaintiff. Mignogna needed to prove his case against the defendants.]

Samurai: During this whole case, a lot of very salacious details came out about another Funimation V/A, namely Todd Habberkorn. While his accusations weren’t AS egregious as Mignogna’s, they still prompted a short-lived hash tag along the lines of “Truth for Todd”. Of course, Funimation hasn’t cut bait with him and he’s still getting work in dubs. Do you think he got off Scott free (no pun intended)?

DigiRanma: Honestly, I think I can still stomach Habberkorn, unless I’m wrong about this, because he saw he was becoming a problem, stepped back, and got help. Vic saw/sees no problems in his actions, but Todd stepped back. Now, don’t get me wrong, a monster’s a monster, but I believe if you get AND take help, along with a few actions, people can change. There’s a reason paroles happen, you know.

Samurai: Agreed. Todd did step back, cleared the record on his end as best he could, and kept his head in his work. Speaking of people changing, as you’ve seen, Mignogna’s fans are just hell bent on defending him, even though he lost every one of the claims in his suit. What do you think it would take to finally get these obsessive fans like Zero Resurrected to break away? Or do you think they’re a lost cause? https://archive.li/o/LSCG7/https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/

DigiRanma: Honestly, I think for fans like that, and this is true for my friends (the SANE Vic fans), a legal trial saying he did it. It’s one thing with a lawsuit, it’s another with detectives and cops finding things. And in the case of Zero and other Vickers (who I call the insane fans), that’s being hopeful. My fear is they’ll SOMEHOW TRIPLE down and say the state is out to get this ONE guy, even planting evidence. One, for example, yesterday said the judge, not kidding, was on the take. Again, for this ONE guy.

Samurai: Yes, there does seem to be an “Us Against the World” feel among the more extreme sect of fans. Now, shifting a little to the founder of Mignogna’s Go Fund Me, Nick Rekieta. For someone that Mignogna claims he only knew a short amount of time, he certainly has taken on a large number of roles including funding manager, hype man, and unofficial Co-council. How much of do you credit him for the growing discord in the anime community right now?



DigiRanma: Let’s just say if Vic’s the gas, he’s the match. People like Rek—no, I’m not gonna show him any respect…people like “Wreckita” go towards cases like this because all he sees are suckers that never stop. He took this on like how The Producers were trying to find a play; he fails, he still gets rich. Even richer. But it’s not enough that he lost the case, no, no, he’s gotta make sure the Vickers are good and pissed off so he can get even MORE money, be it from Mr. Botox and said Mr. Botox thinks “Wow, they love me!” or using that anger to fuel his Grift Fund Me. Gotta get that 3rd car somehow. And for the record? The GFM kinda tells me how far mommy & daddy law school money gets ya as far as a career goes. Sorry for being a bit mouthy/jerk, but Vic is just an idiot monster, Wreckita is a GASLIGHTING idiot monster.

[Editor’s Note – At the time I finish writing this, the current amount in the Go Fund Me is now $273,172 with 5.8K donors.]

Samurai: Oh, don’t worry about it. It’s perfectly fine. This whole case has frustrated me as well. Sticking with the fan support, I do have to ask, do you believe that the fans would be so quick to rush and defend Mignogna if he were a minority? If he were a brown Skinned Muslim instead of a blonde haired blue eyed Christian White guy? Do you think Nick Rekieta would be so quick to defend Vince from the Southside or Muhammad from the Bronx? Would the fans shell out over a quarter million for Montel Johnson in Louisiana?

DigiRanma: Honestly? I think for every Vicker that is “COME, WE MUST DEFEND OUR JESUS,” there’s a Vicker that’s going “*BLEEP* ONE OF OUR OWN WHITE BOYS NEEDS US!” I believe there’s more good people than bad, but I also know people and, sadly, you’re gonna get a few that are helping Botox Jesus ’cause of his skin, or his gender, over being an actual person. As for if Vic was another race all together? Eh, I think an asshole’s an asshole and, yeah, most of the nut jobs that are coming to his aid will still do. Anybody who jumps on a “HE DID IT” because of racial profiling was already a moron/asshole/idiot anyway. And as for Nick? I think he’s quicker to defend the guy that’ll get him a house payment. Oh, and anybody who jumps on “HE DIDN’T DO IT” for his skin is an idiot/moron/jerk, too. Hope I made that clear.


Samurai: Crystal. Now I know that a lot of people, including some of our own mutual friends, have often said that we should try to practice some kind of separation between the actor and what he did. While personally I do have a problem with that, I was wondering if you had issues separating the actor and the work he did from the many accusations levied against him.

DigiRanma: It usually depends on how much of an impact the work’s had on my life. A good…ish example of this is I can still watch Ruroni Kenshin despite it coming out that his creator is a pedo scum bag because Kenshin was one of those animes that shaped me as an anime fan. At the same time, as much as I can’t stand Vic, I can also re-watch both Fullmetal Alchemist series because, again, they shaped my taste in anime being a fan. BUT that said? No way was I gonna get Vic’s newer stuff, get the new Kenshin stuff, etc. I’m glad they got JYB [Johnny Bosch] to voice Broly for one of the games, I’m hoping they can redub him into the Super movie. To top it all off, I can’t 100% dismiss ALL anime Vic’s in. He was two of the characters during the Black Tournament in Yu Yu Hakusho, so I’m not gonna just stop watching an anime I love for one scum bag.

Samurai: I understand where you’re coming from. If you could somehow speak to every single one of the “ISWV” people uninterrupted and face-to-face, what would you say to them?

DigiRanma: He’s not Jesus, if you’re going to use his faith, I can argue why it’s fake, I find it interesting you think hair grabbing isn’t assault yet are afraid to do it (I wonder why…), and since I think some of you live at home, I wonder if your family follows your twitter feed.

Samurai: And lastly, if you had five minutes alone to say whatever you wanted to to Michelle Specht, Mignogna’s ex fiancé, what would you say?

DigiRanma: I’d just simply say that I was sorry what happened and wish she found out sooner and didn’t deserve all the trouble and emotional horror during the entire time. Oh, and ask if there’s a certain Botox Peter Pan she wants me to roshambo [Rock, Paper Scissors]. 😛

And that’s it for my interview with DigiRanma. I want to thank him so much for sitting down and taking the time out to talk with me and help me put this whole last year into perspective. He’s really a great guy, and you should totally follow him on Twitter. However, I’m not quite done with him yet!

In another part of this series that will post tomorrow, I ask Digi to interview ME. Yes, I know that sounds crazy, but hey, these are crazy times. Stick around for that one, okay? I promise It will be worth the wait and I’ll explain later.

Some highlights:
Joshua Knighten said:
He’s [DigiRanma] a PRODIGIOUS guy and has had more than his fair share of harassment from the more extreme corner of the Vic Mignogna fandom. But he takes it all in his stride and punches back with an intelect that some on the other side only dream of.
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I'll take the second one.
Also, "intelect"? :story:

DigiRanma said:
On the one hand, I think it’s divisive, but on the other not the way most people think. Most of the Vickers, who I call the fanboys that keep saying that’s a dragon on their heads, are acting out because they ether already thought the way he does, think it’s an attack on them, or they’re going after a “Good Christian Man” for his job/faith. Those who are actual anime fans, or even his sane fanbase, understand reality and ether accept what’s happened or are waiting without going off the rails.

"Vickers"? Really? You're making ISVW sound like fucking bishops, you know.
That's a common theme, KV really believes ISVW is utterly militant and will probably punch them in the face given the chance. Well, I propose that anyone that is ISVW take up the following cry:

Joshua Knighten said:
Ah, I see where you’re coming from. Now you know you and I have both been put on blast by the “ISWV” [“I Stand With Vic”] group, and in fact, we’ve both been mentioned a couple times on Kiwi Farms…and you’ll be surprised to know, not too flatteringly.

Shit, you don't say!

Joshua Knighten said:
For any of the Kiwi Farm members who happen upon my blog post. Yes, I did write Digimon Fanfiction back in the day. It was fun and I took great enjoyment in it. I hope you liked it too!

Thanks for the link, Josh!

DigiRanma said:
Honestly, I think I can still stomach Habberkorn, unless I’m wrong about this, because he saw he was becoming a problem, stepped back, and got help. Vic saw/sees no problems in his actions, but Todd stepped back. Now, don’t get me wrong, a monster’s a monster, but I believe if you get AND take help, along with a few actions, people can change. There’s a reason paroles happen, you know.

Hey asshole, Haberkorn stepped back because he had defended himself already and probably wants nothing more to do with this toxic dump.
Fucking idiot.
Also, Jessie Pridemore is a fucking thot and probably was not worth the naps.

DigiRanma said:
Let’s just say if Vic’s the gas, he’s the match. People like Rek—no, I’m not gonna show him any respect…people like “Wreckita” go towards cases like this because all he sees are suckers that never stop. He took this on like how The Producers were trying to find a play; he fails, he still gets rich. Even richer. But it’s not enough that he lost the case, no, no, he’s gotta make sure the Vickers are good and pissed off so he can get even MORE money, be it from Mr. Botox and said Mr. Botox thinks “Wow, they love me!” or using that anger to fuel his Grift Fund Me. Gotta get that 3rd car somehow. And for the record? The GFM kinda tells me how far mommy & daddy law school money gets ya as far as a career goes. Sorry for being a bit mouthy/jerk, but Vic is just an idiot monster, Wreckita is a GASLIGHTING idiot monster.

Sorry that Nick is looking out for a friend, a friend who has very little of those left.
What an immature sped. Can't even say "Nick Rekieta" in an interview - not a casual conversation, something labeled an interview - without resorting to childish insults.
If you think that's hypocritical of me, Digi, fuck you, this is the Farms, not an interview.

Joshua Knighten said:
Sticking with the fan support, I do have to ask, do you believe that the fans would be so quick to rush and defend Mignogna if he were a minority? If he were a brown Skinned Muslim instead of a blonde haired blue eyed Christian White guy? Do you think Nick Rekieta would be so quick to defend Vince from the Southside or Muhammad from the Bronx? Would the fans shell out over a quarter million for Montel Johnson in Louisiana?

There you go again, making this shit about race. Nigga, this ain't the Civil Rights Movement, at the end of the day, it's just weeb shit. Except it's serious for Vic, and you're not taking it serious at all.
Bastard.

DigiRanma said:
Honestly? I think for every Vicker that is “COME, WE MUST DEFEND OUR JESUS,” there’s a Vicker that’s going “*BLEEP* ONE OF OUR OWN WHITE BOYS NEEDS US!” I believe there’s more good people than bad, but I also know people and, sadly, you’re gonna get a few that are helping Botox Jesus ’cause of his skin, or his gender, over being an actual person. As for if Vic was another race all together? Eh, I think an asshole’s an asshole and, yeah, most of the nut jobs that are coming to his aid will still do. Anybody who jumps on a “HE DID IT” because of racial profiling was already a moron/asshole/idiot anyway. And as for Nick? I think he’s quicker to defend the guy that’ll get him a house payment. Oh, and anybody who jumps on “HE DIDN’T DO IT” for his skin is an idiot/moron/jerk, too. Hope I made that clear.

Hey Brian, you're white. I don't think anyone, white or black, would defend you, by the way. Exceptions being the exceptional.
(https://archive.li/vyeKN)
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I'd profile you as being autistic. Your statements seem to prove my point.

Joshua Knighten said:
Now I know that a lot of people, including some of our own mutual friends, have often said that we should try to practice some kind of separation between the actor and what he did. While personally I do have a problem with that, I was wondering if you had issues separating the actor and the work he did from the many accusations levied against him.
DigiRanma said:
It usually depends on how much of an impact the work’s had on my life. A good…ish example of this is I can still watch Ruroni Kenshin despite it coming out that his creator is a pedo scum bag because Kenshin was one of those animes that shaped me as an anime fan. At the same time, as much as I can’t stand Vic, I can also re-watch both Fullmetal Alchemist series because, again, they shaped my taste in anime being a fan. BUT that said? No way was I gonna get Vic’s newer stuff, get the new Kenshin stuff, etc. I’m glad they got JYB [Johnny Bosch] to voice Broly for one of the games, I’m hoping they can redub him into the Super movie. To top it all off, I can’t 100% dismiss ALL anime Vic’s in. He was two of the characters during the Black Tournament in Yu Yu Hakusho, so I’m not gonna just stop watching an anime I love for one scum bag.

You know, I'm sorta happy that Digi is showing some form of maturity with those last statements. Shame he's such a fucking sped.

DigiRanma said:
He’s not Jesus, if you’re going to use his faith, I can argue why it’s fake, I find it interesting you think hair grabbing isn’t assault yet are afraid to do it (I wonder why…), and since I think some of you live at home, I wonder if your family follows your twitter feed.

He is the Jesus of frosted tips and don't you forget that.
With that said, IIRC the "hair grab" incident was just a strange yet consensual encounter between friends, no? At a con, I believe, between Vic and Jamie. If it was really that fucking violent, someone in the public space would've seen it and it would've been talked about within weeb circles for years. I don't mean a hush hush rumor, I mean a big fucking deal.

Joshua Knighten said:
And lastly, if you had five minutes alone to say whatever you wanted to to Michelle Specht, Mignogna’s ex fiancé, what would you say?
DigiRanma said:
I’d just simply say that I was sorry what happened and wish she found out sooner and didn’t deserve all the trouble and emotional horror during the entire time. Oh, and ask if there’s a certain Botox Peter Pan she wants me to roshambo [Rock, Paper Scissors] :P.

Literally the only thing we can agree on. Vic is an asshole for cheating on his fiancée like that, even though Michele was cheating on him too.
And Digi, Michele would never sleep with you. Oh, I'm taking this the wrong way? Why don't you say that to Michele and see if she takes that the wrong way.

Joshua Knighten said:
He’s [Digi] really a great guy, and you should totally follow him on Twitter.

I guess if you want to, sure.

Overall... eh? It's just more sperging, very vanilla compared to what is to come. All I took away from it is that KV thinks Nick is some sorta greed monster trying to siphon Vic for all he has. And they're fucking childish. And they believe Jessie Pridemore.

Ew.
 
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I've never seen someone be hilariously wrong. AND childish.
"The facts are different" my right asshole.
Seriously, my entire brain hurts from reading that entire exchange, especially this CodingEtudes fuckwit.
Here is a man trying to be civil and fucking argue a point, and this CodingEtude asswipe talks down to him and shames him.

Oh, by the way Jimmy: KV has NOT been 50% doxed. That would be a fucking terabyte of info all on its own.
 
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I've never seen someone be hilariously wrong. AND childish.
"The facts are different" my right asshole.
Seriously, my entire brain hurts from reading that entire exchange, especially this CodingEtudes fuckwit.
Here is a man trying to be civil and fucking argue a point, and this CodingEtude asswipe talks down to him and shames him.

Oh, by the way Jimmy: KV has NOT been 50% doxed. That would be a fucking terabyte of info all on its own.
Also way too much effort on a bunch of nobodies.
 

Might be relevant to Weeb Wars. Seems like TFS were stressed by copyright stuff and ran out of good jokes so they became PG-13 Saban's Digimon Adventure.
Watching the video, part of me thinks it could be burnout and they could just need to step away for a while to get the juices flowing again...and then I’m reminded of Doug Walker and Demo Reel and how that turned out. Another part of me feels like DBZA is slightly higher than the Vic suit on the list of things Toei gives a shit about.

On the other hand, I did find this comment:
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Here's John C. Scott v. William E. King, a Texas defamation case where Kemah, TX (a town of 2,000 people) mayor William E. King sued local politician John C. Scott for defamation after Scott put up flyers accusing King of being a Klansman, a state-sponsered terrorist, and naming specific instances of corruption King had allegedly done. Scott claimed he had First Amendment rights to free speech since King was a public figure.

The court thought otherwise, and told Scott to pay King over $600,000 for having maliciously made false statements about King with reckless disregard for the truth.

Now go orbit Lawtwitter some more, dumbass.
 
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Hey, DigiRanma...they are not going to redub the Super Broly Movie. Fuck off.

I'm so tired of these r.tards thinking that's going to happen. Sure, redubs happen but if this movie were to be redubbed for some reason, it would be many years from now and it would not even be relevant anymore.
 
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Is he challenging the farms to dox him?
 
OK, time to get back to business with a review of Part 2 of Cajun Samurai's / Joshua Knighten's the Broly Backlash.
Part 1, he interviewed MarzGurl, who showed herself to be a fucking hypocrite.
In this part, he interviews a minor player in the Weeb Wars and fellow KVer, DigiRanma.


Hey guys, Samurai here once again with Part 2 of my multi-part series looking back at the scandal that rocked the anime community one year ago. If you haven’t read my first post where I interviewed the awesome Kaylyn Saucedo, please go back and check it out before going onwards because it’s a really great read, if I do say so myself, and she was such a sport to let me interview her!

Now, this next interview I did was with a good friend of mine on Twitter, DigiRamna. I’ve known Digi for a couple years now through our love of anime and heckling bad movies, and I suppose through this scandal, I got to know him a good bit more. He’s a PRODIGIOUS guy and has had more than his fair share of harassment from the more extreme corner of the Vic Mignogna fandom. But he takes it all in his stride and punches back with an intelect that some on the other side only dream of. I sat down with him and chewed the proverbial fat to see what exactly went down, and where exactly do we go from here.


Cajun Samurai: You’ve been following along with this whole case from the beginning. It’s been a long effing year, suffice it to say. How much of an impact do you think this has had on the anime community?

DigiRanma: On the one hand, I think it’s divisive, but on the other not the way most people think. Most of the Vickers, who I call the fanboys that keep saying that’s a dragon on their heads, are acting out because they ether already thought the way he does, think it’s an attack on them, or they’re going after a “Good Christian Man” for his job/faith. Those who are actual anime fans, or even his sane fanbase, understand reality and ether accept what’s happened or are waiting without going off the rails.

Samurai: Ah, I see where you’re coming from. Now you know you and I have both been put on blast by the “ISWV” [“I Stand With Vic”] group, and in fact, we’ve both been mentioned a couple times on Kiwi Farms…and you’ll be surprised to know, not too flatteringly. What’s the worst interaction you’ve had with one of Mignogna’s die-hard defenders?

[Editors Note – For any of the Kiwi Farm members who happen upon my blog post. Yes, I did write Digimon Fanfiction back in the day. It was fun and I took great enjoyment in it. I hope you liked it too!]

DigiRanma: Oh Lord…can I have a minute? I’ve had everything from “Hair grabbing is not assault” to all the messes I’ve had with Zero, including defending the industry as a whole from him, AND moments where, not even kidding, Vickers said “Wait, Vic has to prove it? Whose dumb idea was that?” The most HILARIOUS is whenever a Vicker said the entire state/legal system of Texas was out to get this ONE GUY.

[Editor’s Note – Just as a reminder, the lawsuit in question was filed by Mignogna. In the US Legal system, the burden of proof is on the Plaintiff. Mignogna needed to prove his case against the defendants.]

Samurai: During this whole case, a lot of very salacious details came out about another Funimation V/A, namely Todd Habberkorn. While his accusations weren’t AS egregious as Mignogna’s, they still prompted a short-lived hash tag along the lines of “Truth for Todd”. Of course, Funimation hasn’t cut bait with him and he’s still getting work in dubs. Do you think he got off Scott free (no pun intended)?

DigiRanma: Honestly, I think I can still stomach Habberkorn, unless I’m wrong about this, because he saw he was becoming a problem, stepped back, and got help. Vic saw/sees no problems in his actions, but Todd stepped back. Now, don’t get me wrong, a monster’s a monster, but I believe if you get AND take help, along with a few actions, people can change. There’s a reason paroles happen, you know.

Samurai: Agreed. Todd did step back, cleared the record on his end as best he could, and kept his head in his work. Speaking of people changing, as you’ve seen, Mignogna’s fans are just hell bent on defending him, even though he lost every one of the claims in his suit. What do you think it would take to finally get these obsessive fans like Zero Resurrected to break away? Or do you think they’re a lost cause? https://archive.li/o/LSCG7/https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/

DigiRanma: Honestly, I think for fans like that, and this is true for my friends (the SANE Vic fans), a legal trial saying he did it. It’s one thing with a lawsuit, it’s another with detectives and cops finding things. And in the case of Zero and other Vickers (who I call the insane fans), that’s being hopeful. My fear is they’ll SOMEHOW TRIPLE down and say the state is out to get this ONE guy, even planting evidence. One, for example, yesterday said the judge, not kidding, was on the take. Again, for this ONE guy.

Samurai: Yes, there does seem to be an “Us Against the World” feel among the more extreme sect of fans. Now, shifting a little to the founder of Mignogna’s Go Fund Me, Nick Rekieta. For someone that Mignogna claims he only knew a short amount of time, he certainly has taken on a large number of roles including funding manager, hype man, and unofficial Co-council. How much of do you credit him for the growing discord in the anime community right now?



DigiRanma: Let’s just say if Vic’s the gas, he’s the match. People like Rek—no, I’m not gonna show him any respect…people like “Wreckita” go towards cases like this because all he sees are suckers that never stop. He took this on like how The Producers were trying to find a play; he fails, he still gets rich. Even richer. But it’s not enough that he lost the case, no, no, he’s gotta make sure the Vickers are good and pissed off so he can get even MORE money, be it from Mr. Botox and said Mr. Botox thinks “Wow, they love me!” or using that anger to fuel his Grift Fund Me. Gotta get that 3rd car somehow. And for the record? The GFM kinda tells me how far mommy & daddy law school money gets ya as far as a career goes. Sorry for being a bit mouthy/jerk, but Vic is just an idiot monster, Wreckita is a GASLIGHTING idiot monster.

[Editor’s Note – At the time I finish writing this, the current amount in the Go Fund Me is now $273,172 with 5.8K donors.]

Samurai: Oh, don’t worry about it. It’s perfectly fine. This whole case has frustrated me as well. Sticking with the fan support, I do have to ask, do you believe that the fans would be so quick to rush and defend Mignogna if he were a minority? If he were a brown Skinned Muslim instead of a blonde haired blue eyed Christian White guy? Do you think Nick Rekieta would be so quick to defend Vince from the Southside or Muhammad from the Bronx? Would the fans shell out over a quarter million for Montel Johnson in Louisiana?

DigiRanma: Honestly? I think for every Vicker that is “COME, WE MUST DEFEND OUR JESUS,” there’s a Vicker that’s going “*BLEEP* ONE OF OUR OWN WHITE BOYS NEEDS US!” I believe there’s more good people than bad, but I also know people and, sadly, you’re gonna get a few that are helping Botox Jesus ’cause of his skin, or his gender, over being an actual person. As for if Vic was another race all together? Eh, I think an asshole’s an asshole and, yeah, most of the nut jobs that are coming to his aid will still do. Anybody who jumps on a “HE DID IT” because of racial profiling was already a moron/asshole/idiot anyway. And as for Nick? I think he’s quicker to defend the guy that’ll get him a house payment. Oh, and anybody who jumps on “HE DIDN’T DO IT” for his skin is an idiot/moron/jerk, too. Hope I made that clear.


Samurai: Crystal. Now I know that a lot of people, including some of our own mutual friends, have often said that we should try to practice some kind of separation between the actor and what he did. While personally I do have a problem with that, I was wondering if you had issues separating the actor and the work he did from the many accusations levied against him.

DigiRanma: It usually depends on how much of an impact the work’s had on my life. A good…ish example of this is I can still watch Ruroni Kenshin despite it coming out that his creator is a pedo scum bag because Kenshin was one of those animes that shaped me as an anime fan. At the same time, as much as I can’t stand Vic, I can also re-watch both Fullmetal Alchemist series because, again, they shaped my taste in anime being a fan. BUT that said? No way was I gonna get Vic’s newer stuff, get the new Kenshin stuff, etc. I’m glad they got JYB [Johnny Bosch] to voice Broly for one of the games, I’m hoping they can redub him into the Super movie. To top it all off, I can’t 100% dismiss ALL anime Vic’s in. He was two of the characters during the Black Tournament in Yu Yu Hakusho, so I’m not gonna just stop watching an anime I love for one scum bag.

Samurai: I understand where you’re coming from. If you could somehow speak to every single one of the “ISWV” people uninterrupted and face-to-face, what would you say to them?

DigiRanma: He’s not Jesus, if you’re going to use his faith, I can argue why it’s fake, I find it interesting you think hair grabbing isn’t assault yet are afraid to do it (I wonder why…), and since I think some of you live at home, I wonder if your family follows your twitter feed.

Samurai: And lastly, if you had five minutes alone to say whatever you wanted to to Michelle Specht, Mignogna’s ex fiancé, what would you say?

DigiRanma: I’d just simply say that I was sorry what happened and wish she found out sooner and didn’t deserve all the trouble and emotional horror during the entire time. Oh, and ask if there’s a certain Botox Peter Pan she wants me to roshambo [Rock, Paper Scissors]. 😛

And that’s it for my interview with DigiRanma. I want to thank him so much for sitting down and taking the time out to talk with me and help me put this whole last year into perspective. He’s really a great guy, and you should totally follow him on Twitter. However, I’m not quite done with him yet!

In another part of this series that will post tomorrow, I ask Digi to interview ME. Yes, I know that sounds crazy, but hey, these are crazy times. Stick around for that one, okay? I promise It will be worth the wait and I’ll explain later.

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I'll take the second one.
Also, "intelect"? :story:



"Vickers"? Really? You're making ISVW sound like fucking bishops, you know.
That's a common theme, KV really believes ISVW is utterly militant and will probably punch them in the face given the chance. Well, I propose that anyone that is ISVW take up the following cry:



Shit, you don't say!



Thanks for the link, Josh!



Hey asshole, Haberkorn stepped back because he had defended himself already and probably wants nothing more to do with this toxic dump.
Fucking idiot.
Also, Jessie Pridemore is a fucking thot and probably was not worth the naps.



Sorry that Nick is looking out for a friend, a friend who has very little of those left.
What an immature sped. Can't even say "Nick Rekieta" in an interview - not a casual conversation, something labeled an interview - without resorting to childish insults.
If you think that's hypocritical of me, Digi, fuck you, this is the Farms, not an interview.



There you go again, making this shit about race. Nigga, this ain't the Civil Rights Movement, at the end of the day, it's just weeb shit. Except it's serious for Vic, and you're not taking it serious at all.
Bastard.



Hey Brian, you're white. I don't think anyone, white or black, would defend you, by the way. Exceptions being the exceptional.
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I'd profile you as being autistic. Your statements seem to prove my point.




You know, I'm sorta happy that Digi is showing some form of maturity with those last statements. Shame he's such a fucking sped.



He is the Jesus of frosted tips and don't you forget that.
With that said, IIRC the "hair grab" incident was just a strange yet consensual encounter between friends, no? At a con, I believe, between Vic and Jamie. If it was really that fucking violent, someone in the public space would've seen it and it would've been talked about within weeb circles for years. I don't mean a hush hush rumor, I mean a big fucking deal.




Literally the only thing we can agree on. Vic is an asshole for cheating on his fiancée like that, even though Michele was cheating on him too.
And Digi, Michele would never sleep with you. Oh, I'm taking this the wrong way? Why don't you say that to Michele and see if she takes that the wrong way.



I guess if you want to, sure.

Overall... eh? It's just more sperging, very vanilla compared to what is to come. All I took away from it is that KV thinks Nick is some sorta greed monster trying to siphon Vic for all he has. And they're fucking childish. And they believe Jessie Pridemore.

Ew.

Is this part of the attempted PR blitz that Ron is attempting to spearhead? Between Animat and Hut 3:16 it seems like they are attempting an offensive. Odd move for people who "won."
 
Here's John C. Scott v. William E. King, a Texas defamation case where Kemah, TX (a town of 2,000 people) mayor William E. King sued local politician John C. Scott for defamation after Scott put up flyers accusing King of being a Klansman, a state-sponsered terrorist, and naming specific instances of corruption King had allegedly done. Scott claimed he had First Amendment rights to free speech since King was a public figure.

The court thought otherwise, and told Scott to pay King over $600,000 for having maliciously made false statements about King with reckless disregard for the truth.

Now go orbit Lawtwitter some more, dumbass.

Just the recent keisha lawsuit shuold be a good exemple, Dr luke is said to be well known within its own industry but is not a household name. Vic is well known in the anime dubbing industry but isnt a big household name like say michael jackson or an A listing actor.

Shit ive watched FMA and been watching anime since i was a kid in the 90s and had no fucking clue who Vic was before all this. Is niche is really not anime but just dubs anime which is a niche within a niche.
 
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No one seems to know what LPPF means, do they? Limited Purpose Public Figure isn't "General Purpose Public Figure, Lite". If Dwayne Johnson is a GPPF, having only half of his fame doesn't make you a LPPF.

Limited Purpose Public Figure is for when you insert yourself into some public controversy in an attempt to influence. If this lawsuit was somehow about Vic's signings and appearances, then he'd be a LPPF because he talks about his con invites and people he meets. He wasn't talked about the defamation against him other than a public denial and eventually a lawsuit. If anything, Rekieta, Doucette, Armzgurl, Dominique Skye, Hero Hei, etc, are more LPPFs than Vic is because they're trying to influence the outcome of this whole mess.

Just the recent keisha lawsuit shuold be a good exemple, Dr luke is said to be well known within its own industry but is not a household name. Vic is well known in the anime dubbing industry but isnt a big household name like say michael jackson or an A listing actor.

Shit ive watched FMA and been watching anime since i was a kid in the 90s and had no fucking clue who Vic was before all this. Is niche is really not anime but just dubs anime which is a niche within a niche.
Take the American population.

Separate the weebs,

From the weebs, separate those that watch English dub.

From the weebs that watch the English dub, separate those that follow specific voice actors.

It'll be a small number.
 
No one seems to know what LPPF means, do they? Limited Purpose Public Figure isn't "General Purpose Public Figure, Lite". If Dwayne Johnson is a GPPF, having only half of his fame doesn't make you a LPPF.

Limited Purpose Public Figure is for when you insert yourself into some public controversy in an attempt to influence. If this lawsuit was somehow about Vic's signings and appearances, then he'd be a LPPF because he talks about his con invites and people he meets. He wasn't talked about the defamation against him other than a public denial and eventually a lawsuit. If anything, Rekieta, Doucette, Armzgurl, Dominique Skye, Hero Hei, etc, are more LPPFs than Vic is because they're trying to influence the outcome of this whole mess.

Luckily for Dr. Luke, he got a judge who actually understands these legal concepts instead of a fucking idiot who thinks that if someone shows up in court with you, that makes you a general purpose public figure like Tom Cruise.
 
No one seems to know what LPPF means, do they? Limited Purpose Public Figure isn't "General Purpose Public Figure, Lite". If Dwayne Johnson is a GPPF, having only half of his fame doesn't make you a LPPF.

Limited Purpose Public Figure is for when you insert yourself into some public controversy in an attempt to influence. If this lawsuit was somehow about Vic's signings and appearances, then he'd be a LPPF because he talks about his con invites and people he meets. He wasn't talked about the defamation against him other than a public denial and eventually a lawsuit. If anything, Rekieta, Doucette, Armzgurl, Dominique Skye, Hero Hei, etc, are more LPPFs than Vic is because they're trying to influence the outcome of this whole mess.


Take the American population.

Separate the weebs,

From the weebs, separate those that watch English dub.

From the weebs that watch the English dub, separate those that follow specific voice actors.

It'll be a small number.
It makes sense why they're jonesing to establish Rekieta as Vic's agent aside from 'defending yourself is harrassment'. They could use Rekieta to make out Vic is a LPPF. Otherwise his so-called fame is from his accusations and defense which is ridiculous. If I make you a public pariah with my lies, it shouldn't make it easier on me in a defamation suit.

Lemon doesn't have any confidence PF will hold.
 
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