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Because recovery takes longer than death.
"Recovery takes longer than death, my friend, choose wisely!"

On a lighter note: We crossed the 40k mark!
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I wonder if when all this is said and done (or as said and done as can be) and they make the documentaries about this, will they tell the truth about Chinese hygienic standards or will they tap dance around that issue like an Irish jig?
 
I wonder if when all this is said and done (or as said and done as can be) and they make the documentaries about this, will they tell the truth about Chinese hygienic standards or will they tap dance around that issue like an Irish jig?
probably depends if China manages to recover, if Xi and his totalitarian regime manages to survive and hold onto power it will show a united and strong china that loved and protected their people and did everything to help them and never ever kill innocents or abandoned them to die. if China gets fucked and doesn't recover all their dirt will become public knowledge and become a world wise laughing stock like the soviets and all their MANY fuck ups.
 
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"Don't do this, just follow our instructions." he said like what's happening is totally mundane to the guy they're about to seal into a drywall sarcophagus indefinitely. You can tell their officials are just incompetent asslickers with zero compassion for the plebs they rule over.

"For the love of god, Montresor"

"No," I said, "For the love of the CCP!"
 
probably depends if China manages to recover, if Xi and his totalitarian regime manages to survive and hold onto power it will show a united and strong china that loved and protected their people and did everything to help them and never ever kill innocents or abandoned them to die. if China gets fucked and doesn't recover all their dirt will become public knowledge and become a world wise laughing stock like the soviets and all their MANY fuck ups.

Unfortunately I think the shit goblins will recover. For them to not to recover is for a complete and total meltdown throughout the entire Global Asian region.

Millions will have to die and hundred of millions will have to be infected in order to have any sort of change in at that cesspool of a nation and that part of the world.

Whinnie the Poo has already been placing his enemies on the front line of this epidemic. His main opponent for any sort of power struggle is the Premier of China. If the shit really hits the fan him, any of his potential opponents, low level officials, will be thrown under the bus.
"They will be nailed to the pillars of shame for all history", quoting something I saw in the Chinese Media.

The Sub humans over there are literially brainwashed, Especially the Han Chinese... The chosen race.

Speaking about these shit goblins. A parody... sort of... actually FUCK NO. The vid was done over 3 years ago and his advice is true today,

 
Actually China finally came out and stated that the virus was airborne, that it was kind of transforming into an aerosol through droplets and then travel around 10 to 13 miles.


Wait what?

13 miles?

hahahaha holy shit China's fucked.


"Recovery takes longer than death, my friend, choose wisely!"

On a lighter note: We crossed the 40k mark!
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Speaking of 40k, I keep wanting to buy some recasts of a few models, but uh...

> Location: China

No thanks Grandfather Nurgle, you ain't getting me that easily. I don't even play CSM.

But that does bring up a thought -- are they preventing shipping from China to the rest of the world? What about small packages like say, some guy selling pirated 40k models? How many random people are going to order off Wish.com or eBay and end up with a little something extra in the package?
 
Things don't seem to be too good in North Korea, either.



North Korea’s Secret Coronavirus Crisis is Crazy Scary

PYONGYANG PETRI DISH

Kim Jong Un canceled a big parade with no real explanation just as the South Korean press reports coronavirus has hit North Korea hard and could explode there.

Donald Kirk
Updated Feb. 09, 2020 1:25PM ET / Published Feb. 09, 2020 1:20PM ET
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KIM WON-JIN/AFP via Getty Images

SEOUL–North Korea’s not saying a word about deaths or illnesses from the coronavirus, but the disease reportedly has spread across the border from China and is taking a toll in a country with a dismal health care system and scant resources for fighting off the deadly bug.
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One sure sign of the regime’s fears is that it failed to stage a parade in central Pyongyang on Saturday, the 72nd anniversary of the founding of the country’s armed forces. Last year, Kim Jong Un himself presided over the procession that displayed the North’s latest missiles and other fearsome hardware along with goose-stepping soldiers in serried ranks.

This year, nothing about the nation’s nuclear warheads, much less the “new strategic weapon” that Kim has vowed to unveil. Rodong Sinmum, the newspaper of the ruling Workers’ Party, merely cited the armed forces’ supposed success combating “severe and dangerous difficulties”—and said nothing at all about the parade.

But reports have filtered out about Kim’s subjects falling prey to coronavirus despite the country’s decision to seal its 880-mile border with China, most of it along the Yalu River into the Yellow Sea to the west, and its 11-mile border with Russia where the Tumen River flows into the Pacific.

Among the first to report fatalities in North Korea, the Seoul-based website Daily NK said five people had died in the critical northwestern city of Sinuiju, on the Yalu River across road and rail bridges from Dandong, which is the largest Chinese city in the region and a key point for commerce with North Korea despite sanctions.


“Victims had crossed the porous Yalu River border despite orders to cut off traffic from China.”

Daily NK, which relies on sources inside North Korea that send reports via Chinese mobile phone networks to contacts in China, said authorities had “ordered public health officials in Sinuiju to quickly dispose of the bodies and keep the deaths secret from the public.”

The victims had crossed the porous Yalu River border despite orders to cut off traffic from China as the disease radiated from the industrial city of Wuhan where the virus originated in December. As of Sunday, more than 700 people had died inside China.

One of the first patients in North Korea reportedly was hospitalized in Sinuiju “with symptoms similar to a cold and was given fever reducers and antibiotics,” said Daily NK, but the patient died as the fever rose. Two more patients died two days later in another hospital in Sinuiju and another two in a nearby town.

North Korea’s worries about an epidemic are all the more intense because of its shortage of basic medicine and equipment. As cases mount, authorities are working feverishly to contain a disease that, if unchecked, could undermine Kim’s grip over his 25 million people, most of whom live in poverty worsened by hunger.

“Because health conditions and health care in North Korea are so bad,” said Bruce Bennett, long-time analyst at the Rand Corporation, “they cannot allow the replication process to develop without severe intervention”—that is, they have to take drastic steps to keep the virus from spreading fast.

The country has just streamlined a headquarters to coordinate operations, Rodong Sinmun reported, marshaling 30,000 workers to combat the epidemic.
Besides blocking international traffic, the North’s Korean Central News Agency reported the headquarters had ordered tests for everyone entering the capital city of Pyongyang by road and for anyone who had traveled outside the country. Foreigners working in Pyongyang, including those with diplomatic missions or non-governmental organizations, were banned temporarily from venturing outside for shopping.

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Even so, with hospitals and clinics largely bereft of needed supplies other than those serving the elite in the capital and elsewhere, a certain desperation was evident in the state media. Rodong Sinmun warned that “the fate” of the country was at stake, according to Yonhap, the South Korean news agency.

“North Korea lacks a vaccine or medical abilities,” said Bennett,”so they have to act by preventing the disease from coming into North Korea.” The point is to “rapidly contain any leakage—exactly what they are trying to do by preventing people-to-people contacts.”

That’s virtually impossible, however, as long as people move illicitly across the border, carrying on low-level commerce in the need to survive a decrepit system. JoongAng Ilbo, a leading South Korean newspaper, cited anonymous source saying that a woman had been diagnosed in the capital and that all those with whom she had had contact had been quarantined.

Unlike in China, North Korea officially has denied any cases while attempting to get people to cooperate in stopping the spread of the disease. JoongAng Ilbo quoted a North Korean health official, Song In-bom, as having called on North Korean TV for “civil awareness” and unity in dealing with the disease while assuring his audience there had so far been no cases.


“We should expect that the virus would spread rapidly given the state’s inability to contain a pandemic.”
— Victor Cha and Marie DuMond in ‘Beyond Parallel’

“I believe absolutely nothing of what I'm hearing from Pyongyang,” said Evans Revere, a former senior U.S. diplomat who specializes in North Korean issues.

“It simply defies credibility that a country with a grossly inadequate public health infrastructure and a malnourished population, a country that depends on China for some 90 percent of its trade, and a country that had until recently opened itself up to a major influx of Chinese tourists in order to earn foreign exchange has avoided having a lot of victims,” said Revere. “The total closure of the border and other measures Pyongyang has taken reflect a real sense of emergency in the North about the threat.”

In fact, he went on, “I can't help but think it may also reflect panic if the number of patients is growing.”
Indeed, “the coronavirus arguably poses a unique threat to North Korea,” wrote Victor Cha and Marie DuMond of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington in an article in Beyond Parallel, which is published by CSIS.

“The regime’s relative isolation from the international community hinders the widespread penetration of many diseases from abroad,” they wrote, but “the porous nature of the border with China and frequent travel is a clear vector for the virus’ transmission.” Thus, “If there are reports of the virus inside of North Korea, we should expect that the virus would spread rapidly given the state’s inability to contain a pandemic.”

By now, it may be too late for North Korea to stamp out all signs of the disease.

“Several suspected coronavirus infections have occurred in North Korea even though it shut all its borders,” said Chosun Ilbo, South Korea’s biggest-selling newspaper, citing anonymous sources. “The infections most likely spread through porous parts of the border with China that see plenty of smuggling and other clandestine traffic,” said the paper, reporting suspected cases among those “engaged in smuggling between the North and China.”

“Bottom line,” said Steve Tharp, who’s been analyzing North Korean affairs as both an army officer and civilian expert for many years here, “the coronavirus has tightened up sanctions enforcement more than any other measure over the years because the North Koreans are actually self-enforcing the sanctions, against their will, through the tight closing of their borders in order to save the regime from being wiped out by this human pandemic coming.”

North Korean leaders, said Tharp, “understand very well that this pandemic would rip through their population and be much more dangerous in North Korea than other places because of their inadequate medical infrastructure and the low resistance disease of the general population after so many years of surviving under near-starvation conditions.”
 
Wait what?

13 miles?

hahahaha holy shit China's fucked.




Speaking of 40k, I keep wanting to buy some recasts of a few models, but uh...

> Location: China

No thanks Grandfather Nurgle, you ain't getting me that easily. I don't even play CSM.

But that does bring up a thought -- are they preventing shipping from China to the rest of the world? What about small packages like say, some guy selling pirated 40k models? How many random people are going to order off Wish.com or eBay and end up with a little something extra in the package?

They are preventing shipping from what I can tell, which is understandable given factories probably aren't running and it was lunar new year before that. I had some items ordered just before shit hit the fan from aliexpress and they haven't shipped when usually it's mailed within a day. I wouldn't be ordering now though as it seems like China has decided to finally get on the ball and lock itself down to wait it out.

There's not much risk on that front anyway though. I think they've stated it has a surface 'life' of about five days if all the conditions are right. Which was what? in a labratory setting? which outside is not. Considering it usually takes five days just for a package to get sorted just to leave China and at least a week but usually more to get it when everything is normal unless the person took a shit in your package there shouldn't be any risk.


I mean China is bad but they've at least got a chance if this got in NK it may very well be game over for them. There's no way they have enough resources to handle any amount of cases.
 
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Speaking of 40k, I keep wanting to buy some recasts of a few models, but uh...

> Location: China

No thanks Grandfather Nurgle, you ain't getting me that easily. I don't even play CSM.

But that does bring up a thought -- are they preventing shipping from China to the rest of the world? What about small packages like say, some guy selling pirated 40k models? How many random people are going to order off Wish.com or eBay and end up with a little something extra in the package?

The good news is there are now a bunch of dirt cheap high resolution Resin 3d Printers on the market that will do gaming miniatures amazingly. Many for just a few hundred. The bad news is all the cheap printers come from China.
 
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Wait what?

13 miles?
Does that seem unbelievable to you? It should: it doesn't make any sense. How would they even test that? I'm betting that's a translation error or some idiot pulling numbers out of his ass to try to justify the scale of the problem. CDC puts typical airborne transmission for a coronavirus at six feet or so and there's no compelling reason to think otherwise.
 
To think this has been happening so quickly after the very first announcement... I wonder what's going to happen in the next months, what will they find out then, maybe there's no real cure and we're all doomed.
Also, thanks for the dumb reactions, very original. I'll just collect these.
 
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Does that seem unbelievable to you? It should: it doesn't make any sense. How would they even test that? I'm betting that's a translation error or some idiot pulling numbers out of his ass to try to justify the scale of the problem. CDC puts typical airborne transmission for a coronavirus at six feet or so and there's no compelling reason to think otherwise.

It's probably just a somewhat BS calculation given it's known persistance in the environment which is seemingly 3-5 days worst case. And how far they believe it could spread or float in aerosol form in that time period. But the thing is open air dilutes things really really fast. You're chances of being infected by that one particle of virus that floated 12 miles over the better part of a week are probably substantially lower than being hit by lightning while standing in your kitchen.
 
Ok with not too much power levelling I can say from experience this isn’t true. With all the SOPs and autism and highly trained people in the world, even western labs have leaks, drainage issues, BioWaste removal and disposal issues and contractors fucking up ventilation issues. Oh the airflow goes that way... shit... oh the storm this weekend has damaged the roof and flooded which area?... shit... People slip and stick themselves with needles. Stuff happens. The foot and mouth outbreak in 07 was from the pirbright lab, via a dodgy pipe. It shouldn’t happen but people are human, and sometimes it does.
I’ve worked with China on medical research projects. The idea of a BSL4 lab somewhere like China gives me chills. (Frankly even the ones in the western countries do)
Is this released? I don’t think we have enough data to say either way, nature is perfectly capable of cooking this stuff up herself, especially given a wet market hot zone to play with. But it’s just as likely it was something sampled from the wild and stored. After SARS, people have been collecting wild samples for study. It doesn’t have to have been a super engineered weapon, it could just be sample 389b among a thousand others, from some random bat infested cave somewhere, being grown up for aliquotting out and storage, or raising antibodies, or looking at a specific protein.
We will probably never know where it came from. A bio lab fuck up is one possibility among many.
Thanks for the information. I've only been to P3 ones and those seem fucking strict enough on the surface already. Indicating to your later post, I'm glad I work at a place that allows casual wear. I cannot imagine wearing those heavy masks for several hours. Wearing laser protection goggles trigger me already, but of course I don't want my eyeballs cooked.

When a fuck up happens here, it's usually some intern not doing the right thing. That's why the idea of high power lasers being sold on ebay with a listing lying about the wattage makes me feel very worried. I guess humans just aren't capable in keeping these deadly viruses. I'd rather not work with the Chinese on such dangerous things.

Pretty much all Chinese markets are open air, housing live avian, live slaughter, fresh fruit and veg, stored together with raw meat and cooked stuff... even if the chance of some kind of outbreak is infinitely low, due to the almost infinite number of Chinese that don't give a fuck about hygiene, the virus being spawned is a given, just give it time.
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These are contagious shitholes. Even the ones in tier 1 cities aren't too different. Only recently, some cities started to rebuild these markets, there's zones for different types of food, live slaughter of mammals are not allowed etc. By recently, I mean 2019. I do have a mini-project in mind. On my next travel, I'll visit various markets and take some photos, I'm guessing there's maybe one or two good ones as a showpiece for the city, and the rest are filthy shitholes. This is how Chinese run stuff, have a showpiece or two and to hell with the rest.

I actually like bats, they are quite cute little things, why do they carry so many viruses though? Rats and mice do because they eat and live in filth. I read on some questionable source (vegetarian website) that omnivorous animals are usually the ones that carry the most diseases, while herbivores carry the least, and that humans started off being herbivores which later turned into omnivores? These deadly creatures also tend to be small, hard to hunt. Surely if our ancestors fucked up by eating rats or bats, they'd be a genocide, right? Hard to hunt combined with very little profit in food makes them undesirable, that's why our ancestors never ate mice or bats unless it's a matter of survival?
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(Look at this little thing, you can't say it's not adorable)

Alright, this isn't really a surprise. I caught a cold last week and did sneeze a couple times on a bus, people obviously paid more attention than usual and ducked away in disgust. I told them to not worry, it's just a silly cold from excessive aircon, and everything went back to normal.

Is this "racism"? Fuck no, these stupid slants are retarded. If being asked about it, just say no you fucking stupid monkey. Maybe they are worried about you and more importantly themselves and their fucking kids.

Most of these stupid FOB spawns have never even been to China. Can they find Shanghai or even Beijing on a map? They can't. Oh I can't find Wuhan on a map if you catch me in the streets within 30 seconds, so there's that. I've been all over the country, even studied there for many years as an utter outcast having actual Chinese-to-Chinese racial slurs lured at me for being slightly different, I'm not gonna whine about it. They tried to "correct" my abo-accent, until my parents stepped in and threatened them. Their perspective is fucking worthless. Why do most of these diaspora spawns turn out to be uber libtards? I guess only the very first wave produces off-spring that's very critical of far leftist ideologies because most were seeking political cover. But, oh it's Twitter, oh well, fuck twitter and fuck Ching Wing Lau. Coughing just to spite people? I hope you get two of those viruses you obtuse 4-eyed misprogrammed calculator.

Glad that most of us here vote for the Republican equivalent (Liberal party).

Oh and I saw this.
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Well done... I guess. 3M must be the happiest party here, wonder what their profits look like.
 
Thanks for the information. I've only been to P3 ones and those seem fucking strict enough on the surface already. Indicating to your later post, I'm glad I work at a place that allows casual wear. I cannot imagine wearing those heavy masks for several hours. Wearing laser protection goggles trigger me already, but of course I don't want my eyeballs cooked.

When a fuck up happens here, it's usually some intern not doing the right thing. That's why the idea of high power lasers being sold on ebay with a listing lying about the wattage makes me feel very worried. I guess humans just aren't capable in keeping these deadly viruses. I'd rather not work with the Chinese on such dangerous things.

Pretty much all Chinese markets are open air, housing live avian, live slaughter, fresh fruit and veg, stored together with raw meat and cooked stuff... even if the chance of some kind of outbreak is infinitely low, due to the almost infinite number of Chinese that don't give a fuck about hygiene, the virus being spawned is a given, just give it time.
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These are contagious shitholes. Even the ones in tier 1 cities aren't too different. Only recently, some cities started to rebuild these markets, there's zones for different types of food, live slaughter of mammals are not allowed etc. By recently, I mean 2019. I do have a mini-project in mind. On my next travel, I'll visit various markets and take some photos, I'm guessing there's maybe one or two good ones as a showpiece for the city, and the rest are filthy shitholes. This is how Chinese run stuff, have a showpiece or two and to hell with the rest.

I actually like bats, they are quite cute little things, why do they carry so many viruses though? Rats and mice do because they eat and live in filth. I read on some questionable source (vegetarian website) that omnivorous animals are usually the ones that carry the most diseases, while herbivores carry the least, and that humans started off being herbivores which later turned into omnivores? These deadly creatures also tend to be small, hard to hunt. Surely if our ancestors fucked up by eating rats or bats, they'd be a genocide, right? Hard to hunt combined with very little profit in food makes them undesirable, that's why our ancestors never ate mice or bats unless it's a matter of survival?
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(Look at this little thing, you can't say it's not adorable)


Alright, this isn't really a surprise. I caught a cold last week and did sneeze a couple times on a bus, people obviously paid more attention than usual and ducked away in disgust. I told them to not worry, it's just a silly cold from excessive aircon, and everything went back to normal.

Is this "racism"? Fuck no, these stupid slants are exceptional. If being asked about it, just say no you fucking stupid monkey. Maybe they are worried about you and more importantly themselves and their fucking kids.

Most of these stupid FOB spawns have never even been to China. Can they find Shanghai or even Beijing on a map? They can't. Oh I can't find Wuhan on a map if you catch me in the streets within 30 seconds, so there's that. I've been all over the country, even studied there for many years as an utter outcast having actual Chinese-to-Chinese racial slurs lured at me for being slightly different, I'm not gonna whine about it. They tried to "correct" my abo-accent, until my parents stepped in and threatened them. Their perspective is fucking worthless. Why do most of these diaspora spawns turn out to be uber libtards? I guess only the very first wave produces off-spring that's very critical of far leftist ideologies because most were seeking political cover. But, oh it's Twitter, oh well, fuck twitter and fuck Ching Wing Lau. Coughing just to spite people? I hope you get two of those viruses you obtuse 4-eyed misprogrammed calculator.

Glad that most of us here vote for the Republican equivalent (Liberal party).

Oh and I saw this.
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Well done... I guess. 3M must be the happiest party here, wonder what their profits look like.

The fact that she's wearing a surgical mask INSIDE the bloody helmet is priceless. Especially since it prevents the helmet from achieving a seal thus making the whole thing fucking pointless. It's like watching evolution at work.
 
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