DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[actually]

Has he ever fully taken the accountability for something he did?

Every time he talks about a mistake he did (like getting 14 CCs) there is always a "but". Never a "yes, I did a mistake and I am fully responsible for it".

Hard to think of one, tbh. Even the racist/sexist stuff, he says "Oh yes, it was bad....but it was the wild west back then." As though racism, sexism, and homophobia all suddenly became undesirable in the last few years. Just because you didn't get in trouble for it doesn't mean it was ok. It just means you drove away potential fans and attracted edgelord teenagers who thought saying "fag" was the coolest.

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

Has he ever fully taken the accountability for something he did?

Every time he talks about a mistake he did (like getting 14 CCs) there is always a "but". Never a "yes, I did a mistake and I am fully responsible for it".

Hard to think of one, tbh. Even the racist/sexist stuff, he says "Oh yes, it was bad....but it was the wild west back then." As though racism, sexism, and homophobia all suddenly became undesirable in the last few years. Just because you didn't get in trouble for it doesn't mean it was ok. It just means you drove away potential fans and attracted edgelord teenagers who thought saying "fag" was the coolest.

I've got one, I think this counts.

18:45 incase the timestamp doesn't work. He finally fesses up to asking people to click ads. These minecraft vids are a gold mine that is very difficult to sift through, but if someone cared to there is an amazing video in there somewhere. So many big ticket items waiting to be picked up.

 

[Forbidden Math]

I've got one, I think this counts.

18:45 incase the timestamp doesn't work. He finally fesses up to asking people to click ads. These minecraft vids are a gold mine that is very difficult to sift through, but if someone cared to there is an amazing video in there somewhere. So many big ticket items waiting to be picked up.

Nah, that doesn't count because he's still got a "but" on it and a laundry list of excuses why he did it. "But dood I didn't know what I was doing on youtube, it was 2009, and I never monetized gameplay videos!"

Edit for explanation:
There is a massive difference between someone genuinely accepting blame for something and saying they accept the blame but not really accepting it. People are snakes, and while Phil may say the words "It was wrong to do" he doesn't mean it and he shows it with his laundry list of excuses. To take total responsibility and honestly mean it is to shut up and just say "Yeah, I fucked up, that's my fault." Not string on a bunch of excuses. If it's your fault and you know it, then you should also know there is no excuse. You don't end with going "THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO" 3 times and then call the person calling you out on it an asshole.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

To be fair with TheAireLord, he went from disturbingly loving Phil to viciously hating him in a flash, simply because of general sentiment and realizing Phil does scummy stuff. Phil has reason to be confused on that one, unless he's willing to admit the autism vortex.

 

[Salubrious]

Has he ever fully taken the accountability for something he did?

Never argue with a narcissist. There will always be a justification or an excuse. If you show them concrete evidence of their wrongdoing, they'll say it doesn't count and then call you an idiot for either falling for fake news or bringing it up in the first place "to cause trouble."

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

So for his minecraft stream, he mentioned or advertised that he was going to make a mob grinder now?

Did he start it at least? If so how much progress was made?

 

[the khat quaffer]

Completely off topic but fit for the general thread, I have a burning question about Phil that's been on my mind for months. If the detractors are so bad to him, taking all that money from him, why doesn't he just get their channel shut down? An infinitely smaller fish like LowTierGod routinely strikes channels down with ease. Why can't Phil do it? He always says he'd love to get back at them and sue them for defamation (LMFAO) but can't because he doesn't have the money and neither do the trolls.

Why isn't he able to take a single fucking detractor channel down? It's clearly very easy to do even at Phil's abysmally low effort level. Never heard him address the ridiculously OP take-down tools that YouTube gives slobs like him.

 

[PieceofShet]

So for his minecraft stream, he mentioned or advertised that he was going to make a mob grinder now?

Did he start it at least? If so how much progress was made?

He "started it". He was chasing turtles all stream that required for the grinder and found none. NOTHING WAS ACHIEVED on that stream, except the gold dust.
He was also supposed to catch a wolf and name it after last weeks top paypig, but he also didnt do that.

 

[actually]

So for his minecraft stream, he mentioned or advertised that he was going to make a mob grinder now?

Did he start it at least? If so how much progress was made?

No, didn't start it. Needed a turtle for some reason, started searching, starting ranting, and missed a couple of what looked like turtles in the time he was pissing and moaning.

Why isn't he able to take a single fucking detractor channel down? It's clearly very easy to do even at Phil's abysmally low effort level. Never heard him address the ridiculously OP take-down tools that YouTube gives slobs like him.

Laziness and pride. He would have to admit that duh trolls do actually bother him. Also, the overwhelming majority of the content would be protected under fair use. The restreams are dicey (imo), but all the clip channels, especially if they cut in counterexample clips to what Phil says, easily meet the mark of fair use by way of criticism.

 

[Frogga]

Why isn't he able to take a single fucking detractor channel down? It's clearly very easy to do even at Phil's abysmally low effort level. Never heard him address the ridiculously OP take-down tools that YouTube gives slobs like him.

I think he's said he can flag troll channels for copyright, but the troll can just dispute the copyright claim saying it was "fair use" and the only action from there is to sue them.

It's kinda funny how Phil will rant and rave about how troll channels aren't "fair use" and that he could easily sue them for thousands of dollars, yet doesn't. He's all bark and no bite.

The restreams are dicey (imo), but all the clip channels, especially if they cut in counterexample clips to what Phil says, easily meet the mark of fair use by way of criticism.

Null asked Nick Rekieta in that stream last week if Tevin would be protected under fair use, and he says if he's reacting and providing commentary and criticism, even ridicule, then yes.

I wouldn't believe re-streams like Dark Dave's Mirror to be protected though, unless you can somehow convince a judge that using an automated soundboard would count as commentary and criticism.

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

Nah, that doesn't count because he's still got a "but" on it and a laundry list of excuses why he did it. "But dood I didn't know what I was doing on youtube, it was 2009, and I never monetized gameplay videos!"

Edit for explanation:
There is a massive difference between someone genuinely accepting blame for something and saying they accept the blame but not really accepting it. People are snakes, and while Phil may say the words "It was wrong to do" he doesn't mean it and he shows it with his laundry list of excuses. To take total responsibility and honestly mean it is to shut up and just say "Yeah, I fucked up, that's my fault." Not string on a bunch of excuses. If it's your fault and you know it, then you should also know there is no excuse. You don't end with going "THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO" 3 times and then call the person calling you out on it an asshole.

To explain why I listed it regardless of those facts, #1 he doesn't do what is said where he deflects. In either case what you are conflating with deflection is really bringing up a valid point. "yeah I did that, but it was a decade ago and stupid asses keep bringing it up"

There's a lot of places where's he's still a massive bonehead today, even moreso than then since he is realizing all these big boy responsibilities and still neglecting them or doing them wrong. But in this one case he admitted it was him, there are no excuses given but there are explanations or details given which themselves explain why it is exasperating to have address it. Now if he was clean about it earlier he wouldn't have had to but that's an argument for another day.

"but". Never a "yes, I did a mistake and I am fully responsible for it".

That is this. There is a but, but that but isn't "but it was the darn chat's fault" or "but it was a parody" where you remove responsibility. He owned having said it entirely. His stupid distinction about the vlogs doesn't make sense or matter from any approach, but he doesn't say its a lie like he used to, nor does he say its a 'tractor meme. I think that he is learning but he is both spoiled and developmentally delayed (likely for no other reason than the perpetual spoiling his life has afforded him) so now at his age his ego is keeping him from learning faster than he could. This applies to the spirit of this request, if not the letter of the request.

 

[actually]

He owned having said it entirely.

This is true, but he also (on multiple occasions, if not in this particular video) has immediately qualified it with "But that's not why I got in trouble." He has blamed Google/Youtube for erroneously detecting his fans clicking on ads as "invalid click activity" and supposedly only doing so months later. So yes, he did finally, after being bombarded with multiple videos from his own channels showing he did it, admit he said some words. But he still can't admit that his actions directly led to the consequences. That part is still Youtube's fault in his alternate reality mind.

 

[Forbidden Math]

To explain why I listed it regardless of those facts, #1 he doesn't do what is said where he deflects. In either case what you are conflating with deflection is really bringing up a valid point. "yeah I did that, but it was a decade ago and stupid asses keep bringing it up"

There's a lot of places where's he's still a massive bonehead today, even moreso than then since he is realizing all these big boy responsibilities and still neglecting them or doing them wrong. But in this one case he admitted it was him, there are no excuses given but there are explanations or details given which themselves explain why it is exasperating to have address it. Now if he was clean about it earlier he wouldn't have had to but that's an argument for another day.

No, it's really not an argument for another day. As you said yourself this is his first time confirming it and still he's calling the person bringing it up an ass hole. You may not think those deflections were deflections but they clearly are. They were the first thing he said, and they're not good reasons to be upset about it being brought up because in the past he had denied and deflected. You can't deny, deflect, and literally ban people for calling you out on something and then call someone else an asshole for bringing it up. If you never fessed up there's no reason to stop bringing it up.

You may think that was Phil admitting what he did and owning it, but you'd be wrong and missing the whole point of my previous post.

TL;DR
If someone is still telling you how they didn't do something wrong or how it wasn't a big deal while they're apologizing then the apology isn't worth shit.

 

[Radical Goodspeed]

To explain why I listed it regardless of those facts, #1 he doesn't do what is said where he deflects. In either case what you are conflating with deflection is really bringing up a valid point. "yeah I did that, but it was a decade ago and stupid asses keep bringing it up"

There's a lot of places where's he's still a massive bonehead today, even moreso than then since he is realizing all these big boy responsibilities and still neglecting them or doing them wrong. But in this one case he admitted it was him, there are no excuses given but there are explanations or details given which themselves explain why it is exasperating to have address it. Now if he was clean about it earlier he wouldn't have had to but that's an argument for another day.

The moment the fat fuck prefaces his apology with a "but," the apology is worthless. The shit he did in the past is inextricable from his gay 'legacy' as long as he paints that on the side of his begging cup, so the idea that assholes keep bringing it up isn't valid.

 

[James Smith]

What the fuck is it with DSP's Minecraft streams making him an absolute insufferable narcissist?

It's because he doesn't have any gameplay to distract him from thinking about himself.

 

[Vic Viper T301]

I love that Phil's explanation for why people started making this is how you don't play videos is essentially "I was only pretending to be retarded."

And holy shit Phil needs to stop saying "in reality" so damn much it's really fucking annoying.

 

[Zappin’ And Spazzin’]

I love that Phil's explanation for why people started making this is how you don't play videos is essentially "I was only pretending to be exceptional."

And holy shit Phil needs to stop saying "in reality" so damn much it's really fucking annoying.

Why would someone who never lies and is always honest ever, even once, feel the need to say,
"I'm telling you the truth here. Truth of the matter is...now, I'm being 100% honest with you guys" or any variation of that? Phil is absolutely terrible at lying, it's part of why he's so endearing. He's like an introductory course in how to deal with liars. But the sad part is, there are those who genuinely believe him. The amount of human interaction you'd have to have not experienced for that to happen to you is staggering.
Most people can tell DSP's bad news from a glance, however the autism filter that keeps people from realizing exactly why is the sheer amount of time his (huge amount of) footage demands. Your average Joe won't watch a two and a half hour-long TiHYDP.
It's like a dog-turd on the side of the road. It's gross, and most people would just walk by it.

 

[ZehnBoat]

I love that Phil's explanation for why people started making this is how you don't play videos is essentially "I was only pretending to be exceptional."

it's shrodinger's retardation
he's the realist guy, he doesn't clown around, he's not fake
BUT AT THE SAME TIME
he's just pretending, it was a joke, it was a fake reaction

it's like how he never lies
but when he does it's okay he did it to protect his khet and cat
but he wont ever lie again
... until he does. but he HAD TO, but he wont lie again
...until...

 

[N0thingICanDo]

Looks like twitter found out who he was ranting about last night, there’s more in those replies but I don’t wanna spam a bunch of pics

DSP is not responding to him..............YET

 

[BlackDragoons]

So another check DSP wrote that he knows he can't cash in.

What a fool.