Manosphere Amud - The Balloon Loon, Loveshy Extraordinaire

[Osaka Seafood Concern]

Well actually there is a reason to trust academic authorities. They know more about the subject than you and know more epistemology behind the subject. This argument is used a lot by people that think they actually know the subject but believe a theory is equivalent to a guess, and that a law is above a theory.

There's this weird implication with anti-academics that bribery is always involved in a degree which is a bit of a cop out for actual specialists who invest time and effort to obtain their degrees. Academia is tightly controlled, and often requires a lot more vigorous research and existent sources for their theories -- these are people who specialize in a subject, and conduct research to enhance the field, to allow for us to progress as a more informed society. While there are issues of ethics in the scientific world - such as corporate sponsored studies in nutrition, I would certainly trust someone with a background in genetics and a degree than someone who seems to still think phrenology is a legitimate measure of intelligence.

 

[Tookie]

Hey @Amud, you really shouldn't stick foreign objects up your nose. You have this thing called an olfactory bulb that is pretty much a direct route to your brain. In the fairly unlikely event that something tags along on your balloons it could be very bad.

 

[Papaya23]

Ok, here's my picture:

Ok, I'm gonna be honest here. I've never read the Communist Manifesto. All I know about economics is what I learned in the high school econ class, which I got a C in. That means I don't have a good way of explaining or articulating my ideas, nor do I have a good way of classifying them into categories like "communism", "fascist authoritarianism", etc. My ideas are what they are.

You don't get to complain about getting some if you part your hair in the center. #sorrynotsorry

Also now that we have biologists in here, can I just ask: why are we considering neanderthals and humans separate species if they had viable offspring? Honest question, I don't need a condom in my nose or anything.

 

[TM Ambrose]

There's this weird implication with anti-academics that bribery is always involved in a degree which is a bit of a cop out for actual specialists who invest time and effort to obtain their degrees. Academia is tightly controlled, and often requires a lot more vigorous research and existent sources for their theories -- these are people who specialize in a subject, and conduct research to enhance the field, to allow for us to progress as a more informed society. While there are issues of ethics in the scientific world - such as corporate sponsored studies in nutrition, I would certainly trust someone with a background in genetics and a degree than someone who seems to still think phrenology is a legitimate measure of intelligence.

Not only that but transparency has become more of a requirement when dealing with scientific research. Not only do we have to mention where our money is coming from in any paper but also how we went about our methodology. The main staple of a good scientific experiment is repeatable results. The major reason journals are considered more substantial than individual claims is because they are peer reviewed by people who can easily repeat the experiment as well as being able to understand the epistemological methods involved with scientific work.

 

[DuskEngine]

Where are you going with this? Also, good job getting "Filthy-Arab.jpg" from a racist website.

Sure is a good thing these phenotypes only apply to Europeans, right?

 

[seagull]

Also now that we have biologists in here, can I just ask: why are we considering neanderthals and humans separate species if they had viable offspring? Honest question, I don't need a condom in my nose or anything.

I'm not a biologist, but this is the most helpful article I could find.
http://www.livescience.com/16010-neanderthal-human-sex-interbreeding-offspring.html

Based on this data and model, the researchers discovered the interbreeding success rate was probably less than 2 percent in most scenarios. Assuming that both lineages interacted for about 10,000 years, this means successful interbreeding would have, on average, happened just once every 23 to 50 years, they calculated.

 

[TM Ambrose]

You don't get to complain about getting some if you part your hair in the center. #sorrynotsorry

Also now that we have biologists in here, can I just ask: why are we considering neanderthals and humans separate species if they had viable offspring? Honest question, I don't need a condom in my nose or anything.

That actually is a good question. There are several different species concepts that we use in biology, not all of them based on how things breed. Currently there are 5 major species concepts. The first is the oldest and is the same one Linnaean used, and is mostly arbitrary but still useful. It is based on structural similarities between species members and discontinuities between different species. This is probably the one that is used however there are a few others. Alfred Wallace, a man who helped influence the idea of natural selection described it as a group of living organisms seperated from all other such groups by distinctive characters and having a relation to the environment different than any other species. This fits into the ecological species concept which is more about what niche a group is involved with. When we think of interbreeding populations we think of the BSC, or Biological Species Concept which typically implies that it is all about producing viable offspring. However in 2001 it was revised by Ernst Mayr, the original proposer of the idea, to read "Species are groups of interbreeding natural populations that are reproductively isolated from other such groups.". While many take this to mean producing viable offspring reproductive isolation can be temporal, mechanical, behavioral or based on gametes. This does open them up to be considered different species. The other two major ones are agamospecies which are used for organisms that reproduce asexually and genetic species which is based on similarities in DNA.
In most situations the term species is mostly arbitrary when considering close relatives however is still useful. We classify these two as similar because they were distributed differently as well as morphological characteristics that seem to suggest genetic differences.
Also as @seagull said the actual interbreeding was limited probably due to separation in location and behavioral habits. Separation like this does lead to what is considered separate species.
I don't know a whole lot about the differences between early hominids but I'm pretty sure this should answer your question.

 

[HickoryDickory]

Every time @Amud posts, all I can think about is Quest for Fire. It's a pretty good movie, and has Ron Perlman in it!

From Wiki:

While they travel back toward the Ulam territory, Amoukar attempts to have sex with Ika. She hides near Naoh, who then demonstrates his claim on her by mounting her in front of the other two males.

At first, Naoh is teased and subjected to several forms of humiliation by the Ivaka, but eventually they accept him and show him their ways, initiating him into the tribe. Impressed by his physical features, they arrange for him to "service" all the high-status women of the tribe who are large and big-breasted. The petite Ika is excluded by her tribe, and when she attempts to lie near him later that night, she is chased away by the other members of her tribe.

 

[DuskEngine]

Anyway, Bieber is in my undesirable list because he is roughly equivalent to an inbred psychopathic banker. One upsets the financial market, the other upsets the sexual market. At any rate, both are upsetting markets, and in my society, that's not allowed.

Curse those sexual financiers and their erotic derivatives trading!

 

[Big Nasty]

Give this guy, MylarBaloonFan, and Holden their own subforum to post in. It'll be like a zoo: we can look, but not touch.

Yeah, we are starting to get so many of these crazy assholes that I think a dedicated "Virgin Pride" subforum would be good idea.

 

[Rammspieler]

Sadly, I must agree with Amud on one thing. Tinder definitely is a degenerate dating app in that in between all the "Country Girls" that abound in my area looking for their own Toby Keith and all the camwhore bots, I now have to pay just to match with more bots!

Also, since @Amud is a self proclaimed expert in the science of facial attractiveness, I must ask what he thinks of this guy. From what I hear, there may be some girls (and guys for some weird reason) who would bang him, Kiwis included. He's Love-Shy's Public Enemy #1 from what I heard. Must be the Alpha Bad Boy swag.

Spoiler: Gotta love that shirt!

 

[Arctic]

Because if I'm incel for my whole life, maybe I won't have the motivation to continue the great work I do.

Nikola Tesla was a virgin his entire life, didn't stop him from changing the world. Also, pretty much every classical composer was a complete chad.

 

[XH 502]

Also, since @Amud is a self proclaimed expert in the science of facial attractiveness, I must ask what he thinks of this guy. From what I hear, there may be some girls (and guys for some weird reason) who would bang him, Kiwis included. He's Love-Shy's Public Enemy #1 from what I heard. Must be the Alpha Bad Boy swag.

Spoiler: Gotta love that shirt!

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You know what makes this man attractive? He has a job and is working hard to improve himself. He's not an asshole. It's funny how that endears you to people.

Should probably ditch the Fuckbot gloves, though.

 

[Dalcon]

After reading through the thread I've come to the conclusion that Amud is 50% troll, 25% racist and 25% colossal idiot. I'm too lazy to find the correct skullotypes for those classifications.

 

[creamyfanta]

I'm happy that mylar woke from his slumber to comment in this thread about the misuse of the word "loon" and to defend his precious mylar balloons.

If a loveshy could love a woman as much as mylar loves his goddamn balloons there would no longer be incels. Treat your honey with the same respect mylar does to his lovely, curvacious, helium and semen filled bloons and she will bang you for sure.

Amud is just a wannabe Holden imo

 

[YI 457]

Everything about our environment that is intellectually stimulating (digital technology, for instance) was created by non-Chad, non-slut individuals.

I've seen plenty of articles that include measurements of these skulls.

Keep in mind that I am a functioning member of society and am not disabled in any way.

She is a Borreby, and quite Ignobilid. She is also one of the sort of people who I would have executed.

You're joking, right. I love how you try to state absolute truths with sources and/or reasons driven by madness or just pure incompetence. But it's funny to listen to you, so please continue.

 

[SATC Vortex]

So is this guy a troll or what? Because after 40 pages he looks very pitiful.

Condom huffer.

 

[24isthehighestnumber]

Having someone executed for the shape of their skull? Am I getting this right? Someone please tell me I'm reading that wrong.

 

[Sunny-D]

Also now that we have biologists in here, can I just ask: why are we considering neanderthals and humans separate species if they had viable offspring? Honest question, I don't need a condom in my nose or anything.

Not a biologist, just interested in science, but while I'm pretty sure that most of the hybrids that can be produced are usually infertile (mules, ligers, etc.) more closely related species can produce viable and even fertile offspring. Viable just means it can survive, fertility is more important, since that would allow it to pass on its genes from both parent species and would explain the small amount of neanderthal DNA existing in modern humans.

Bengal cats are a cross between a domestic cat and an Asian leopard cat, and they're fertile, since I'm pretty sure they generally use an individual a few generations away from the wild ancestor for pets. I think there's another cat that's a cross between a serval and a domestic cat that works the same way. There's even been at least one case of a mule being fertile, and probably more examples.

I believe hybrid viability and fertility is related to the number of chromosomes. It doesn't look like we know yet how many chromosomes neanderthals had, but it must have been close enough to humans to allow for interbreeding. The fact that modern humans only have at most 1-4% neanderthal DNA could be explained either by hybrids only rarely being fertile, or just by the amount of time that's passed since then.

It's amazing how interesting the actual solid demonstrable science is and how much Amud ignores it in favor of inaccurate eyeballing what some skulls look like without any scale or measurements or anything else at all.

 

[Eddy84]

If you think this guy is fun, you would love the owner of sluthate, 3D Facial Analysis. I think he should come defend his forum from the white knight kiwis. It's like a basement nerd slaughter fest up in here.