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The jury's still out on domesticated animals being able to transmit the disease, but that's still not stopping Chinese in cities and villages from killing them.

It's really hard for me to give a fuck about how bad mainland China is having it. Communist China needs to be in a historical dustbin.
 
Don’t worry Jeremy Corbyn is on the case

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Disease is a game changer. The human race didn't survive the major Black Death Event of circa 1330 to 1370 (which originated on the silk road, probably China) just to wind up forcing one's self to flirt with exposure to appear woke. So far, the plague script is ticking over like a champ, the only modern difference is communication. Eyam never saw it coming. The Corbyns of this world are in for a shock when people act the way they do out of self preservation.



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The actual Black Death didn't cause a Mad Max style collapse, but maybe it's because you can't "collapse" much further than feudalism.
I dunno, some parts of the hundred years war and the condotteri battles between Italian city states sound pretty damn Mad Max to me.

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I know I am late to the game here and this has probably been said before. But boys and girls: Our next global superpower!

Like seriously, with China downplaying the scope of this outbreak, the seeming successive scandals coming from their major businesses, their public showing of disregard for human rights in Hong Kong, and over-exaggeration of their military capability; tell me again why we take this nation seriously as a political rival? I know their manufacturing base is on the surface impressive, but upon closer examination it seems even that is a tinfoil operation.
That's what they want you to think!
 
What's that Mail article on about saying the virus is called SARS-CoV 2? It's named COVID-19. Fucking journalists. If you can't even get the most bsic facts right, what else are they getting wrong?

Apparently SARS-CoV 2 is the virus, while COVID-19 is the disease. As a layman, it seems like an exceptional obfuscation, if it's a SARS variant then just keep it simple like SARS-19 or SARS-RELOADED.

For comparison, the MERS disease was caused by the "MERS-CoV" virus and the original SARS disease was the "SARS-CoV" virus.
 
During famines people save food for their pets. They would rather go without food themselves than let their pets starve, because they love them so much.

If it came between feeding my dog or my wife and kids, I'm sorry, but my dog would be pulling the short straw on that one. I would then be the most depressed motherfucker on the planet.

That being said, if you can't euthanize your pet humanely, then fuck off.
 
If it came between feeding my dog or my wife and kids, I'm sorry, but my dog would be pulling the short straw on that one. I would then be the most depressed motherfucker on the planet.

That being said, if you can't euthanize your pet humanely, then fuck off.
Wtf dude....not the doggo! You can make new kids man!
 
I keep reading your posts and I keep trying to understand why you feel so strongly about this. Comparing a hoarder who has 52 tons of back issues of National Geographic lining his corridors and causing his kitchen to collapse into his basement to people stocking up on legitimately useful things like shelf-stable foods, water, and other necessities in case there's a logistics problem when people get sick or a quarantine of some sort is issued, like we've been seeing in China due to this exact disease, is completely asinine and just plain stupid.

Do some preppers have a hoarder mentality and overprepare? Probably.
Is telling people to have a few 5 gallon jugs of drinking water available if they need to shelter in place and cannot get access to clean water for whatever reason a bad idea? No.

Knowing about treatment and prevention - yes, great idea. I don't see why you can't also stock up on canned food just in case the grocery store has problem getting deliveries because half the drivers it uses are sick, or people start panicking and buying out all the stock immediately, or you want to avoid the store for reasons of safety and just sit in your house the a month while the shit blows over.
If you go back and read carefully you will see I recommended exactly that for exactly those reasons. It's basic FEMA disaster preparedness shit. You aren't some super-special autist for knowing that.

If you have a modestly stocked pantry you will be fine. Years worth of shit is not necessary.

The reason I'm coming on so strong is because before I spoke up we a bunch of innawoods prepper survivalist-type sperging and nobody really challenging it. Here's a sample.
Welp prob fine because I’m white, but still out in the country anyways. I like my get away place anyways and the SO takes care of the vegetables and I take care of stockpiling/freezing deer. Already have a big ass gate that even leads up here so if we see someone boom headshot. I know it isn’t an issue yet but fuck it. Didn’t buy btc for silkroad and cash out to not buy a Shit load of land and make the boomers that live close to me think I’m a drug dealer.

also got the still running(can be used for water) and an actual dedicated water purification system that can make 5 gallons a day. Plenty of powdered bleach and about 10k rounds for each gun and I’ve got a lot of fucking guns.
Picked up a shockwave for cheap and mini slugs.Have my dedicated slug gun for hunting, reload station, shitloads of powder and bullets. Honestly not really doing too much different than when we come out here just decided fuck it let’s get out of the city before shit might get bad and we’ve been itching from the country. And have tons of precursors growing/stockpiled for emergency meds (that are legal). Worse case I can throw some poppies in the shine and make some landrum and get fucked up before going back to the city. Fuck I love the country air.

now if only my BFF had the same luxury of coming up early. Oh well. Got the backup coms tested so we’re fine.I really don’t expect anything except for a nice vacation from already being loaded lmfao. Also, anyone looking to reload 6.5 is an amazing round and the fucking box has the reload instructions on it. Seriously better than 300win, 308, and various other rounds. Do have the two 50BMGs just incase, but I wish I got my 500blackout upper sooner.

Call it a prepper bunker but it isn’t it’s fucking paradise being in the country IMO. Even not expecting shit to get bad around here but might as well start everything up. Also I fucking love making all different types of shine. Even have an e100 engine that I run in my truck up here. Welp time to get day drunk and go shooting. thankgod for burger land.

Edit: just bomb China already and do them a favor.
I had to google it to make sure it wasn't some obscure copypasta. No, it's real.
 
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This all started near the beginning of Dec, right? Now think about how long it's taken for the amount of people that are currently in China to get infected (and show outward symptoms) from then, to now. About 9-11 weeks.

The first case in the west (or the US at least) was confirmed on Jan 21, three and a half weeks ago. Between then and now there's been a number of fuckups as far as containment goes, and this virus is known to stay asymptomatic for a while.

I think it's still too early to be calling which way this is going to go.

But that actually works against what we are seeing. The first patient checked into the hospital Dec 1. So he became infected somewhere in the 24 day block before that. There were enough hospitalized Patients by Dec 8, to start getting Doctors to notice. At that point most were being sent home to rest and recover. So it was active and increasing up through Christmas and into the Chinese New Year. With lockdowns happening on Jan 20. There was no disruption of Travel until Jan 23. With a high number of Chinese traveling overseas for things like The Christmas Holiday in Europe or North America. Given all that movement for 2 months before quarantines started, there has been remarkably little incidents of it in the West. The "Wait and See 60 Days" assumes the first patients began arriving Jan 20-21. But travel was happening before that. Plus None of the US or Canadian Hospitals and Health systems have gone back through their records and found any prior cases that turn out to be Corona-Chan. Thats what makes it weird. You would expect a handful of cases out in the US, Canada Europe, India, Russia and East Africa in that period between Thanksgiving and Early January.
 
Apparently SARS-CoV 2 is the virus, while COVID-19 is the disease. As a layman, it seems like an exceptional obfuscation, if it's a SARS variant then just keep it simple like SARS-19 or SARS-RELOADED.

For comparison, the MERS disease was caused by the "MERS-CoV" virus and the original SARS disease was the "SARS-CoV" virus.


Creating unnecessary confusion during an outbreak like that is very nearly criminal.
Clear, concise and accurate messaging is crucial.
 
If the overreaction is to this degree, I honestly wonder how many people would react to shit like the monster storms we've had hit NY from time to time. Sandy was a fucking apocalyptic beast that knocked power out for weeks in the best areas and tore trees out of the ground like matchsticks. This board probably would have acted like it was Mad Max.

Meanwhile the state as a whole just got really drunk for days at a time (no one could go to work after all) and got on with it.

It was mad Max in NJ though if you remember.
 
The reason I'm coming on so strong is because before I spoke up we a bunch of innawoods prepper survivalist-type sperging and nobody really challenging it. Here's a sample.

I had to google it to make sure it wasn't some obscure copypasta. No, it's real.

This is the only super-autismo post I've seen, and if he's the guy you were responding to, that's fair, but you came off like you were painting everyone with a broad brush of "haha why are you worried about food and water this is just the flu bro"
 
But that actually works against what we are seeing. The first patient checked into the hospital Dec 1. So he became infected somewhere in the 24 day block before that. There were enough hospitalized Patients by Dec 8, to start getting Doctors to notice. At that point most were being sent home to rest and recover. So it was active and increasing up through Christmas and into the Chinese New Year. With lockdowns happening on Jan 20. There was no disruption of Travel until Jan 23. With a high number of Chinese traveling overseas for things like The Christmas Holiday in Europe or North America. Given all that movement for 2 months before quarantines started, there has been remarkably little incidents of it in the West. The "Wait and See 60 Days" assumes the first patients began arriving Jan 20-21. But travel was happening before that. Plus None of the US or Canadian Hospitals and Health systems have gone back through their records and found any prior cases that turn out to be Corona-Chan. Thats what makes it weird. You would expect a handful of cases out in the US, Canada Europe, India, Russia and East Africa in that period between Thanksgiving and Early January.

I get where you're coming from but that take only makes sense if you take the numbers of infected now and apply them to pre Jan 23 numbers, and if you assume that the ones first infected were high enough on the socioeconomic ladder in China to be able to travel abroad.

Not only that, but it needs be said that this is a virus known for a long asymptomatic period, up to two weeks. A half a month before symptoms even begin to appear means that we're always going to be two weeks behind the actual numbers, anyway.

FWIW my opinion so far is that it'll probably stay localized to mainland China and a few other areas in the far east, I just don't like pretending that I know what the outcome is of such a happening when there's so many moving parts deciding how it ultimately turns out.

The reason I'm coming on so strong is because before I spoke up we a bunch of innawoods prepper survivalist-type sperging and nobody was really challenging it.

Thank god we have you here to be the voice of reason, I was just about to go out and buy seventy pallets of MREs and a few hundred 5L bottles of drinking water, but you brought me back to the light. Sarcasm aside I don't think anybody was "challenging" those posts because nobody took offense to some people with a niche hobby/lifestyle who finally feel they can use that knowledge to be of some common good to others.
 
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Oh no. Coronavirus is in Egypt now.
 
Welp it's official, the Virus has been confirmed to have reached Africa, specifically Cairo, Egypt.


Well damn, just got beaten to the punch.

To add a bit of flair to my post, here have a video of people being led around like dogs
 
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if you assume that the ones first infected were high enough on the socioeconomic ladder in China to be able to travel abroad.

1% of 1.4 billion is still 14 million plague carriers going to your airports and spitting on your country's elevator buttons. You don't have to be especially low on the socio-economic ladder to come into contact with a plague in China when you see their public transit system and how they treat their public properties (i.e. spitting, shitting, and pissing all over public property)

 
So here is the question if you live in an area ripe for infection from corona-chan, is it better to be the first infected so you get to use the medical system before it collapses. Having imunity during the apocalypse would be amazing and if it's just a scare imagine the money you could make as an imune delivery service to people who think they are dieing.
 
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