Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Iuz]

If you listen to lefties they claim the only reason the bombs were dropped was to intimidate Russia.

They forget that even with the two atomic bombs being drooped, elements of the Military tried launching a coup d'etat to prevent surrender.

Edit: fixed quote.

 

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PHOTOS: Scenes From The Epicenter Of The Coronavirus Outbreak

A photojournalist in Wuhan, China, portrays a city under quarantine in the midst of COVID-19.

www.npr.org

Pretty interesting pics. One that I liked:

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Every 3 days now? It was every 2 a few days ago.

Totes a flu guys

 

[JosephStalin]

If you listen to lefties they claim the only reason the bombs were dropped was to intimidate Russia.

Yeah. If we had the bomb ready in January 1945 Germany would have gotten a couple.

Dropping the atomic bomb saved maybe millions of lives, both Allied and Japanese. We were preparing for invasions of the Japanese home islands. Very heavy casualties expected. So many Purple Heart medals were prepared in advance that we are still using them today.

Would say this about Imperial Japan. Earlier in the 20th Century they treated POWs quite well. They captured Russians during the 1905 Russo-Japanese War. Japan was on our side in WWI. Captured Germans when they overran German possessions in Asia. Those men were taken to Japan and treated almost as honored guests.

Couple of very interesting articles..

https://www.nippon.com/en/in-depth/...i-life-for-german-pows-in-japanese-camps.html

Prisoners of War (Japan) | International Encyclopedia of the First World War (WW1)

After Germany and its allies were defeated in Tsingtao, their soldiers were captured and sent to Japan. More than 4,600 combatant prisoners of war (POWs) were interned in temporary camps in cities throughout Japan. In 1915, after it became clear that the war would last longer than originally...

encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net

It was in the 1930's, as the "Bushido" movement grew, that the Japanese attitude toward POWs and conquered people changed so radically.

Every 3 days now? It was every 2 a few days ago.

Totes a flu guys

Hey, nice rack on the lady in the white top dancing in the fourth picture down.

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More seriously, look at the beds that have been set up. All pillows head-to-head. Cross-infection much? Not rocket science, people. In my opinion stupid shit like this gives the lie to any statement that people are being properly cared for. They aren't.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

It’s an RT-PCR test. You take a sample (probably from airways) and isolate RNA, then reverse transcribe the RNA to DNA and then amplify it up using sequence specific primers. If the corona sequences are in there they will amplify and you can use a probe tagged with various things like fluorescence. Any lab with a PCR machine should be able to do it off supplied with primers and probe.
There’s probably a protocol online, let me see if I can find it...

edited to add: yeah, here.https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/rt-pcr-detection-instructions.html
Archive: http://archive.li/wip/0fQpf

It’s not hard to do - anyone working in a molecular biology lab will have the tools and ability to do this.

it’s possible it ‘hangs’ in still air yes, most airborne and droplet transmissions do for a short while indoors. Cruise ships are notorious for this sort of thing. Every year a few get hit by norovirus and it rips through the whole ship. Close quarters and poor ventilation of inner cabins plus cleaners using the same cloths on multiple cabins, central food prep, etc. Floating petri dish...
Edited again: it’s a real time PCR so you shove the fluorescent probe in with the reaction and it reads out in real time - you get an amplification curve. This machine is slightly more pricey than your basic lab PCR machine, but not horrifically so. you can still do it in a regular machine with a bit of tinkering, you’d just not get the instant read out.

Did somebody figure out this as a better way? Cos last week it was all "there's not enough test kits" and on the news they were saying there was only one lab in the entire Western Hemisphere (in Georgia) that could process tests...

 

[Mike Stoklasa]

Hey, nice rack on the lady in the white top dancing in the fourth picture down.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/02/12/20200127-22-5_custom-528fab95c81341aab6c020c6d3b43a4d9872485e-s1300-c85.jpg

I've got some news that may come as a surprise you, Joseph.

 

[Uranus Pink]

Yeah. If we had the bomb ready in January 1945 Germany would have gotten a couple.

If Germany didn't surrendered right when they did, they would have won the nuclear sweepstakes with Berlin getting nuked. USAAF were just finished putting Little Boy and Fat Man together and loading them onto the bombers when they got word of the surrender.

 

[Bat Soup Reviews]

Hey, nice rack on the lady in the white top dancing in the fourth picture down.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/02/12/20200127-22-5_custom-528fab95c81341aab6c020c6d3b43a4d9872485e-s1300-c85.jpg

More seriously, look at the beds that have been set up. All pillows head-to-head. Cross-infection much? Not rocket science, people. In my opinion stupid shit like this gives the lie to any statement that people are being properly cared for. They aren't.

Great chance for all sorts of nasty secondary infections to start showing up in these death camps self isolation wards, thousands of people all sharing the same bathrooms and air within feet of each other for weeks on end.

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[Iuz]

Did somebody figure out this as a better way? Cos last week it was all "there's not enough test kits" and on the news they were saying there was only one lab in the entire Western Hemisphere (in Georgia) that could process tests...

A few days old but the CDC has been having some problems with their test kits apparently.

Some coronavirus test kits shipped around US are flawed, CDC claims

Some of the coronavirus testing kits distributed to state labs around the US do not work properly, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

nypost.com

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/PQ1ve

2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)

CDC is closely monitoring an outbreak caused by a novel (new) coronavirus in Wuhan City, China.

www.cdc.gov

The IRR is accepting orders for 2019-nCoV tests from qualified laboratories. This includes 115 qualified U.S. laboratories, such as state and local public health laboratories and Department of Defense (DoD) laboratories, as well as 191 qualified international laboratories, such as the World Health Organization (WHO) Global Influenza Surveillance Response System (GISRS) laboratories.

Looks like there is more than one lab that can obtain results from the test kits. Unless I'm missing something.

 

[SparklyFetuses]

"Oh, it's no worse than the flu"... well, if that's true: Influenza has a HIGH mortality rate. If you combine the influenza lethality rate to corona-chan's estimated infection amount, you're looking at a LOT bigger body count.

In Chile, people already deal with problems related to H1N1 and even pneumonia during autumn and winter days every year. If the virus arrives in Huasoland (especially in March, when upcoming protests will start and people who'll come back from China), the whole country might be horribly fucked.


Also:
Corona-chan fucked 95% of Juan Fernández Island's lobster exports up. Article is in spanish: https://www.publimetro.cl/cl/notici...izo-exportacion-langostas-juan-fernandez.html

Archive: http://archive.li/E5UQQ

 

[Shick]

Are the symptoms finalized? Most of the symptoms we know are information from China, and it's common sense to not to not trust China. Here is what I remember so far:

• Coughing
• Coughing/vomiting blood, even moreso than pneumonia(?)
• Feeling of (heavy) fluid in lungs
• Itchiness(?)
• Shortness of breath(?)
  Takes 1 or 2 weeks to develop (I'm not sure which one is correct, or the virus does indeed flip flop between them)
• Sudden fatigue/fainting(?)

There's a bunch more that escaped my mind, but I'm not sure if some of them are the real symptoms or made up.

EDIT: I looked in the last pages and how did it reach Egypt of all places?

Add in fever, nausea, vomiting or diarrhea depending on the person.

 

[pwnest injun]

Great chance for all sorts of nasty secondary infections to start showing up in these death camps self isolation wards, thousands of people all sharing the same bathrooms and air within feet of each other for weeks on end.

Forget secondary infections. They're creating a thunderdome environment where the most virulent forms of the virus are going to outperform the less dangerous versions, making sure that the sick get sicker and spread their worse sickness more effectively.

 

[Cast Away]

EDIT: I looked in the last pages and how did it reach Egypt of all places?

Someone must be playing Plague Inc

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Are the symptoms finalized? Most of the symptoms we know are information from China, and it's common sense to not to not trust China. Here is what I remember so far:

• Coughing
• Coughing/vomiting blood, even moreso than pneumonia(?)
• Feeling of (heavy) fluid in lungs
• Itchiness(?)
• Shortness of breath(?)
  Takes 1 or 2 weeks to develop (I'm not sure which one is correct, or the virus does indeed flip flop between them)
• Sudden fatigue/fainting(?)

There's a bunch more that escaped my mind, but I'm not sure if some of them are the real symptoms or made up.

EDIT: I looked in the last pages and how did it reach Egypt of all places?

And mind you, some who were diagnosed never displayed symptoms at all.

You can detect viruses during incubation, right? You don't have to wait for it to activate to find it? So if the incubation period does last upwards to a month in some cases, could it be those who were diagnosed without symptoms were in the incubation period?

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

I still believe this is more a issue because of how the Chinese Government handled it and how fucking corrupt and incompetent there local officials are.

I mean if it hits Europe hard then people will die, but i don't think it will be the same kind of disaster like it is in China.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

If you listen to lefties they claim the only reason the bombs were dropped was to intimidate Russia.

I thought the reason was racism towards the Japanese.

 

[Iuz]

China is super active all over Africa. It is a easy place to do business for them.

Their apparently one of the largest investors in Egypt's efforts to expand and develop the Suez canal zone. Which makes sense considering how much Chinese produced crap probably gets transported though it.

Be surprising if it didn't actually, Egypt was one of the main entry and spread points of Yersinia pestis (Bacteria that causes Plague) into the Mediterranean world in the 14th century, due to it's commercial importance in East/West trade.

 

[LazyLizard]

Forget secondary infections. They're creating a thunderdome environment where the most virulent forms of the virus are going to outperform the less dangerous versions, making sure that the sick get sicker and spread their worse sickness more effectively.

literally every move China has made so far has just made shit worse. how hard is it to just ask the CDC or some other reputable health organization for help fixing this instead of fumbling around with a deadly disease in the hope of not embarrassing yourselves.

 

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I thought the reason was racism towards the Japanese.

Nah, it was institutional power disparities. The bombing was the straight white male patriarchy enforcing it's will on the poor oppressed Japanese people wot dindu nuffin uwu uwu uwu

 

[Rudy Russo]

American from cruise ship docked in Cambodia tests positive in Malaysia for coronavirus

An 83-year-old American woman who had been a passenger on a cruise ship that docked in Cambodia has tested positive for the new coronavirus on landing in Malaysia, health authorities said on Saturday.

www.reuters.com

So dock in Cambodia and let them right on planes. Good job.

 

[JosephStalin]

If Germany didn't surrendered right when they did, they would have won the nuclear sweepstakes with Berlin getting nuked. USAAF were just finished putting Little Boy and Fat Man together and loading them onto the bombers when they got word of the surrender.

Not quite correct as to the timing of the bombs' readiness. First test of weapon in July 1945. President Truman got the word during the Potsdam Conference. But if that bomb had been ready in January 45, sure as shit Hitler would have gotten the instant sunshine.

On another thing, still cannot understand why the Chinese are placing all those beds in gyms, etc., as they are. Didn't work real well for us in 1918/early 1919 and WILL! NOT! WORK! NOW! Once again, the local CCP is showing the CCP at higher levels how hard they have been working. But if you just make things worse then what have you done? Even putting people head-to-feet would help a little. Easy to do. I still want to know the conditions in the existing death houses. Believe they are already close to charnel houses. Just can't see the powers that be making sure there is water, toilets, clean linen on beds (here in the USA would expect to see that linen changed daily), enough food and medicine.

You know what it is...common sense and proper medicine are taking a back seat to politics. Wonder how many innocent men, women, and children will pay with their lives because of politics' triumph. Just as fucked up as a football bat.