Did Hitler Have The Right Idea, But The Wrong Means?

[???]

Where can I get the Truth that is not fanfiction written by Allies and Soviets?

Google Ron Unz American Pravda.

 

[Gus]

Return to sender.

 

[Robert James]

This is one of the most loaded cancerous questions I have seen and I fucking love it, God Bless you OP I hope you get what you want out of this thread.

 

[Troon Destroyer]

Null ought to do something about them CIA niggers shilling for free honey on our forums.

 

[ZeCommissar]

All of this "bruh the nazis could have just not done anything and would have been seen as heroes of Germany/won the war/whatever" is really retarded. You are talking about the core fundamentals of what made the nazis who they were: perpetual warfare, racism, and lebensraum.

The main reason the German economy seemingly "got better" after the depression under Nazi rule is that they vamped up military spending and production by a shit ton. Nazi Germany for multiple years had the highest percentage of military expenditure than any other nation. The upper echelon of the nazi leadership believed that another war was inevitable so they wanted to build up as quickly as possible.

Nazi Germany couldn't just build a massive military meant to subjugate multiple nations and just sit there and do nothing with it. They would have reached economic collapse, which is also a big reason as to why the Nazis invaded other nations was to plunder their resources. What's funny is that the returns the Nazis wanted didn't even come to fruition because *gasp* the lands were devastated by their invasion! So had Nazi Germany won they would have to deal with the problem of rebuilding pretty much almost all of Europe, along with keeping a sizable military to keep the occupied zones and puppet governments in line. With all of the extreme corruption already going on internally I just don't see that happening effectively.

You also think the Nazis had everything all planned out. When American and Soviet reports gave them information about the German oil reserves during the war they were stunned. They just couldn't believe that the Nazis would start a war with such little fuel security. Those reports were accurate.

It's laughable that people think the Nazis were magic economical wizards that would have made Germany a powerhouse without going to war.

What other means are you talking about? That he just not go to war? That he doesn't orchestrate the conditions for genocide? This thread is literally "Hitler and the Nazis would have not been seen as warmongering and genocidal if they didn't commit war and genocide" No shit Sherlock.

Hitlers original intention were to make a German hegemony so absolute to the extreme detriment to the peoples around Germany, even Western Europeans, and especially for those that were seen as subhuman. Hitler wanted not just German prosperity, but German domination over all.

"good intentions" stop trolling OP.

 

[AnOminous]

You also think the Nazis had everything all planned out. When American and Soviet reports gave them information about the German oil reserves during the war they were stunned. They just couldn't believe that the Nazis would start a war with such little fuel security. Those reports were accurate.

They were planning on securing oil reserves in the Middle East and Africa. That's a lot of what Rommel was trying to do in Libya, diplomatically through Iraq, and trying to control the Suez Canal. This didn't work out because they weren't the only ones who realized the importance of oil.

 

[The Pink Panther]

This is one of the most loaded cancerous questions I have seen and I fucking love it, God Bless you OP I hope you get what you want out of this thread.

Will do. I'm pleasured that it hasn't got to Spergatory yet and it's at 3 pages.

 

[ElAbominacion]

History is like a corpse you have to dissect very carefully. If you're already making a judgment of value when analyzing something, you'll end up missing critical details. Just like our enforced illiteracy commisars would take this:

And think it's thinly veiled pro-German propaganda, despite every sign otherwise. Like, you know, the character pissing his pants.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

You could paint any controversial leader as sympathetic if you don't go in depth about his/her retarded world views and just say their party slogans.
That Stalin dude just wanted to push Russia into the modern age and be a superpower, get the Russians to be world leaders in technology and work for a society with smaller gaps in wealth.

 

[Consider Lizärds]

You can apply "if x was different, y would have a different result" to pretty much anything ever. It's true, but it's not deep thoughts. Unless you're really stupid, in which case it might be quite the personal achievement in realising this.

I don't think OP is stupid at all, but the question is pretty tired by now.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Christ this forum is so gay for Hitler it's embarrassing, you've got at least 2000 years of crackpot tyrants to choose from and you go with the one whose regime imploded in under 20 years and had no redeeming features.

-actions brought stability and structure to a total shitshow
-functional political body for over a thousand years
-all major social issues such as faith and language defined by it.
-endless contributions to art, science, philosophy and culture.
-every other megalomaniac and imperialist power desperate to have some of the prestige of Augustus' empire.

Bam done, tyrant who wasnt a total failure and an empire which isnt a joke now you can argue an actual case.

 

[Linako 2.0]

Had Hitler focused on the wellbeing of his people and not been a murderous psychopath with the intent of invading his neighboring countries, he would have been fine.

So literally his plan according to his book.
if there's one thing I really agree in Mein Kampf is that schools should focus on physical education and encourage kids to be athletic with 2 PE classes a day.

 

[Jeffrey Epstein]

#hitlerdidntkillhimself

btw, who's hitler? Is that the name of that Scottish dude's pug or something?

 

[ElAbominacion]

Christ this forum is so gay for Hitler it's embarrassing, you've got at least 2000 years of crackpot tyrants to choose from and you go with the one whose regime imploded in under 20 years and had no redeeming features.
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-actions brought stability and structure to a total shitshow
-functional political body for over a thousand years
-all major social issues such as faith and language defined by it.
-endless contributions to art, science, philosophy and culture.
-every other megalomaniac and imperialist power desperate to have some of the prestige of Augustus' empire.

Bam done, tyrant who wasnt a total failure and an empire which isnt a joke now you can argue an actual case.

Do you realize the irony of that? Like 90% of what you mentioned wasn't due to Augustus but due to Roman hegemony at the best of its times, which Augustus clearly took advantage of. True, it brought stability and structure to a Republic torn into a civil war, only for his own dynasty's successors to tear it apart over and over to the point they lost control over their Empire.

Charlemagne and Napoleon, for all that Napoleon ruled for 20 or so years, himself, both had lasting impressions in European and colonial history, culture and legal heritage.

Hitler was a simp compared to any of these people, true, but he was the perfect shitstorm for his time. And I don't mean this as praise.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Do you realize the irony of that? Like 90% of what you mentioned wasn't due to Augustus but due to Roman hegemony at the best of its times, which Augustus clearly took advantage of. True, it brought stability and structure to a Republic torn into a civil war, only for his own dynasty's successors to tear it apart over and over to the point they lost control over their Empire.

Couldn't the same be said of all tyrants? They're only as good as the system they exploit? Jokes aside I don't actually approve of the Roman Imperial system it's just if I was stupid and weak enough to desire a strong man leader telling me what to do, Augustus is a way better leader than Der fuhrer and he's only the first one to spring to mind. I mean in terms of legacy his period rival Stalin was probably more of a success story. The only reason he's so prominant is because he's pretty much the perfect frame of referance for human evil and his downfall was a real feather in the caps of the UK, US and Russia.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Holy fuck, I was just about to post this.

 

[L'Homme de la Lune]

Lol @ the nigger trying to argue that Weimar Germany was prosperous in the 20s. This board knows nothing about anything related to this era. Very cringe.

 

[Christ Cried]

Killing the jews was the right idea, failing was the wrong execution

 

[PrussiansMarchingOn1819]

He should of let his Field Marshals do their job. He didn't go to a military academy, he was a hobo starving artist that got rejected from some school or art because his paintings lack technique. America, England, and France were hoping another war would break out, but a war with them not involve. While they didn't like The Nazi, they saw Germany as buffer zone kind like Austria was Italy's buffer zone from Germany. The rest of Europe mainly Eastern Europe as bait. They would simply deal with whoever left standing I think if things were planned out differently I think Germany could of win the war if they didn't declare war on the United States

 

[Hal]

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