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That's pretty fucking massive if accurate. The GWP (Gross world product) is only $80 trillion.
it's going to be even more if they keep pretending it isn't already a pandemic and keep injecting liquidity into the market like a bunch of fucking turd flinging monkeys.
the more i watch the markets go up the more disgusted i get about the whole handling and even moreso the international response to this trainwreck. what's worse is that china will probably get away with this massive global-scale-systems fuckup because they have so much juicy potential as a huge credit and loan market in the coming years as more people become blue collar and white collar workers.
 
Actually it won't. That's the funny thing about economics. The needs are still there. All that's going to happen is that "income" will shift. It will go elsewhere as new sources spin up. Such as Apple moving production to Taiwan. It's going to cost China $1.1Tn. But that $1.1Tn will go elsewhere. Rising other non China economies. There just may be a few months lag as that fully happens.
it's always asian countries but i'm honestly kinda surprised there's not more production down in africa, you'd think the decrepit countries down there would jump at the chance to make money by making Iphones and other crap for the westerners. are africans just to stupid to work in factories?
 
I should preface this by saying that I am no expert, I just got into a pissing match with a colleague about such things, and finding and arguing about research papers is considered vaguely entertaining in my autistic sphere.

To summarize very briefly, American production and R&D of agricultural products dominates all other countries capabilities in the world. Two situation tend to develop:

1. The country open/maintains free trade with the United States. This grants an immediate drop in the price of food, but can decimate traditional agricultural and farming practices on the grounds of pricing. Eventually many farms may modernize, but civil turmoil in those regions can result in the mean time. e.g. Mexico

2. The country closes down agricultural free trade with the United States. This gives a reprieve to local traditional farming communities, but will lessen modernizing forces and keep food prices higher. The result is a falling behind in all categories of agritech, but civil unrest is limited. e.g. Europe.

As to how they enforce this ban, as they do not want to come out and say that they cannot handle the economic competition. Everyone knows about the European agricultural and food safety commissions, but most do not know the exact though process they use.

First is a mostly rational safety review. It it safe to eat? Is it safe for the environment? Does it have any potentially nasty health effects somewhere in the processing of the product?

When all of those questions and more come back saying that it is safe (and it almost always is), it then moves into an "Economic Feasibility Study." Where in, one of the most important factors in deciding whether or not a product is "feasible" is the following tests:

1. The new product is put into a a series of test supermarkets. It is a new product, with little or no advertising for it. It has a giant GMO warning label put on it. The question is: do people buy this scarily labeled new product, or their usual standby?

2. General opinion polling about GMOs and the latest biotech. Is the public generally receptive to the general idea of these products?

When those two questions come back in the negatory, the product is declared "Economically Infeasible" and is therefore not allowed to be used.

I should not have to point out that the local agricultural lobbies and their associated government officials have a vested interest in maintaining this particular status quo.

This got far longer than I was intending it to be, sorry.

I got news for you all, this all might overflow a bit.

Bold is mine:

'Don't be kidnapped by China': Taiwan tells WHO in bid for separate virus tally

TAIPEI (Reuters) - Taiwan urged the World Health Organization on Tuesday not to be “kidnapped” by China, as more countries put travel curbs on its citizens because the health agency groups the island’s coronavirus cases with China in the battle on the outbreak.

Taiwan has reported just 22 cases, versus China’s figure of more than 72,400, but the self-ruled island shares the agency’s classification of China as “very high risk”, since the WHO considers Taiwan as part of China.

“Taiwan is not ruled by China and certainly should not be labeled as an infected area,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Joanne Ou told a news conference.

“We urge the WHO to be professional and neutral: Break away from China’s unreasonable claim. Don’t be kidnapped by China.”

Taipei is already in a war of words with Beijing over its exclusion from the WHO, because of objections by China, which considers Taiwan its own territory and has blocked the island’s membership in many international bodies.

Democratically governed Taiwan says it is an independent country called the Republic of China - its formal name - and has never been part of the People’s Republic of China.

Countries including El Salvador, Mongolia, Solomon Islands and Vanuatu have adopted travel curbs for arrivals who have visited Taiwan, while the island’s largest airline is covered by an Italian ban on flights from China.

Ou said Taiwan continued to press Italy to resume flights, adding that the WHO should immediately correct its “inappropriate label” for the island.

Taiwan has scrambled diplomats around the world to ensure no more flights are cut off because of the WHO classification.

In a rare diplomatic success, Taiwan managed to get Vietnam to lift a flight ban this month. Last week, the Philippines lifted a travel ban on visitors from Taiwan imposed to rein in the spread of the virus.

-End of Article-

Virus outbreak: Canadian lawmakers challenge ICAO’s Taiwan stance
{No, Trudeau friends are still sucking China's cock. It is the opposition that has some semblance of a spine.}


Canadian Conservative Party lawmakers on Sunday challenged the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) over its exclusion of Taiwan.

Canadian Member of Parliament Michael Cooper reiterated in a Tweet that Taiwan is a sovereign state and challenged the ICAO’s characterization of the nation as a “province of China.”

“#ICAO this characterization is wrong. #Taiwan is NOT a province of China. TAIWAN is TAIWAN. Democratic & sovereign,” Cooper wrote.

In a session of parliament on Jan. 29, Cooper called on Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to explicitly state the government’s position on Taiwan’s inclusion in international discussions about preventing the spread of COVID-19.

Trudeau responded by saying: “We support Taiwan’s meaningful participation in international multilateral forums. Especially when its presence provides important contributions to the global public good.”

Canadian Member of Parliament James Bezan tweeted: “Has the International Civil Aviation Organization been taken over by the Communist Party of China [CCP]? Hey @icao — get your facts straight! Taiwan is a thriving independent democracy.”

The ICAO, whose secretary-general is Liu Fang (柳芳) of China, has been blocking the Twitter accounts of anyone who expresses support for Taiwan and on Thursday referred to Taiwan as “[China’s] Taiwan Province” when tweeting about the spread of COVID-19.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has called the ICAO an “accomplice” of China’s pressure campaign against Taiwan and asked it to correct its references to the nation.

It has also called on nations friendly to Taiwan to help it communicate with the ICAO, which has its headquarters in Montreal.

Canadian politicians began ramping up challenges to the ICAO’s stance on Taiwan after the organization continued to misrepresent the nation, despite Trudeau’s confirmation of his government’s support.

Canadian Member of Parliament Peter Kent in a tweet responded to Bezan’s question on whether China was influencing the ICAO.

“Short answer is yes. CCP has implanted officials who block legit Taiwan engagement in international aviation safety ... in the same way they have in other international fora,” Kent wrote.

Writing in French, Canadian Member of Parliament Steven Blaney tweeted: “The ICAO should recognize Canada for what it is, an autonomous entity, and not a province of China!”

Canadian Member of Parliament Pierre Paul-Hus tweeted: “Taiwan is Taiwan. Taipei FIR [flight information region] is controlled by Taiwan, which is a full-fledged democratic and sovereign country. Simple and clear.”
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Finally, a bit of link dump because I am running out of room:
One more confirmed coronavirus case reported in Taiwan (update)
One of two missing quarantined New Taipei residents found
Student absences due to fever will not count on record: MOE
WUHAN VIRUS/A glance at Taiwan's quarantine measures on Wuhan virus
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WUHAN VIRUS/Experts find how moderate 2019-nCoV infection ends with death
{Cytokine storm}

Tech sector braces for supply disruptions amid coronavirus spread
{Shortages are going to cause business problems}

Fuck yeah go Taiwan! Time to burn the clothless emperor's posse right out of international politics! Man I'm sperging out tonight but fuck it this deserves a brindis. For the republic of china, they earned their name.

NEWS FROM THE FRONT:

My in-laws have been told that everything is fine and there is no longer any need to self-quarantine. Me and the missus have tried to persuade them to not leave the house, but they're fucking spergs, so of course they're not listening to us. To be fair, nobody is sick in their village and none of their family in the city proper have caught it, but I'm certain this is not over.

I'm not sure if the CCP is believing its own bullshit or what, but I suspect this shit is far from over.

In other news, I have a penicillin-resistant strain of strep. Had to go back to my family doctor to have him write me a new script for Keflex. As I was sitting in my doctor's office for the second time that week, I wonder how many coronavirus patients have done the same in the US or other nations. Caught it from a friend of a friend of a friend who traveled to Wuhan. My doctor never even bothered with testing for strep. Just had me open my mouth and went, "Yeah. That's strep."

I wonder how many people have gone to family doctors or urgent cares and dealt with an overworked PA or an old fella who doesn't rely on tests who just went, "Eh. Bad cold or the flu. Take this cough syrup. Drink fluids. Bye."

Probably none. Crossing frontiers is harder than it seems. If pneumonia cases had spiked we'd know. That said a week ago me and one of my pets caught something and I didn't even bothered going to the doctor I just gave him the medicine I knew he'd need from the last time he got sick and powered through it myself while shitting my heart out every hour for a few days, I haven't been anywhere near china thiugh so probs just the regular flu. If not then even in rodents all it gave him was more hunger than normal and mucous shits, so man that's weak af.

As for your inlaws and china... yeah the CCP has just given up on quarantine altogether really. At this poikt all xinnie der pooh cares about is getting those factories open not how many people die for it. I expect second order deaths tl literally decimate the chinese population.

it's going to be even more if they keep pretending it isn't already a pandemic and keep injecting liquidity into the market like a bunch of fucking turd flinging monkeys.
the more i watch the markets go up the more disgusted i get about the whole handling and even moreso the international response to this trainwreck. what's worse is that china will probably get away with this massive global-scale-systems fuckup because they have so much juicy potential as a huge credit and loan market in the coming years as more people become blue collar and white collar workers.

Its still not a real pandemix though. It's an epidemic. A really fucked up one but an epidemic nonetheless. The difference between pan and epi isn't the "height" (number of cases) but the "width" (location of the cases) and outside of chiba and SEasia it's not actually managed to cause an outbreak anywhere else. Even aftwr that tea drinking superspreader gave it a headstart.

Technicallities aside you're right I just get pedantic when I'm drunk at over 4 in the morning.

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it's always asian countries but i'm honestly kinda surprised there's not more production down in africa, you'd think the decrepit countries down there would jump at the chance to make money by making Iphones and other crap for the westerners. are africans just to stupid to work in factories?

Most african countries have regular power blackouts' horrid transport chains (barely even any proper roads and the ones there are are poorly maintained) and water shortages. They can't fucking deal with industrialization no matter the manpower.

That's the issue. All these leftie historical revisionist fucktards love to blame africa's ills on the evil whkte man. Well reality check mofos. Europe has actually consistently brought better infrastructure to africa. Issue is THEY DON'T HAVE WATER. And barely have ANYTHING else. They didn't even start settling for real until the brits brojght them irrigation. Well over 90% of that continent is an ass blasted arid piece of shit. Teying to build thr infrastructure needed to maintain the factories would be more expensive than BUYING THE GOD DAMNED COUNTRY.
 
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Probably none. Crossing frontiers is harder than it seems. If pneumonia cases had spiked we'd know. That said a week ago me and one of my pets caught something and I didn't even bothered going to the doctor I just gave him the medicine I knew he'd need from the last time he got sick and powered through it myself while shitting my heart out every hour for a few days, I haven't been anywhere near china thiugh so probs just the regular flu. If not then even in rodents all it gave him was more hunger than normal and mucous shits, so man that's weak af.

Most westerners who have gotten it have likened it to a really bad cold, so I really wouldn't be surprised if there's a colony or two growing somewhere.
 
Manufacturers are assuring US businesses the Chinese factories will be reopening next week with only a delay in shipping of soft goods by 2-3 weeks from normal Chinese New Year shutdowns.

So if that doesn't happen, we'll know shit is real
If factories reopen in the middle of an outbreak like that, with the medical services already as fucked as they are, people are gonna die. A LOT of people are gonna die. Millions. Literal millions...

Wait. Sorry, I made a mistake. It should say "when".
 
My in-laws have been told that everything is fine and there is no longer any need to self-quarantine. Me and the missus have tried to persuade them to not leave the house, but they're fucking spergs, so of course they're not listening to us. To be fair, nobody is sick in their village and none of their family in the city proper have caught it, but I'm certain this is not over.
Most people start with a conclusion and look for facts to support it. My parents are questioning why the quarantine is so strict - using the official government figures for the virus.
 
Metokur retweeted this:


Sony Won't Attend PAX East Either Due to Coronavirus Concerns
Sony won't be at PAX East either.
Matt Kim
By Matt Kim

Updated: 19 Feb 2020 1:43 pm

Posted: 19 Feb 2020 1:20 pm

Sony has announced that it is canceling its participation in the upcoming PAX East due to concerns over COVID-19, or the novel coronavirus.

The company announced the news as an update to its PlayStation Blog postdetailing its PAX East plans. "Today, Sony Interactive Entertainment made the decision to cancel its participation at PAX in Boston this year due to increasing concerns related to COVID-19 (also known as "novel coronavirus")[,]" Sony wrote in an update to its February 13 blog post.
All the Big Games Coming in 2020

Sony was originally scheduled to present the first playable public demo for The Last of Us Part 2 at PAX East. Other games in Sony's PAX East lineup included Marvel's Iron Man VR, Nioh 2, Doom Eternal, Spelunky 2, and more.

It is unclear if the demo will still be available since Sony has decided to pull out of the event. IGN has reached out to Sony for more details, including whether The Last of Us Part 2 will still be available as a demo at the show.

We’re so sad to have to miss PAX East! We were really looking forward to meeting you and seeing your reactions to the demo. Although we know this makes the wait until May 29 a bit harder, we appreciate your understanding. Don’t worry, we’ll have more to share closer to launch. https://t.co/tIJ0Z7Ztcs
— Naughty Dog (@Naughty_Dog) February 19, 2020


The outbreak of COVID-19 has interrupted several planned gaming events already. Overwatch announced it will temporarily relocate its Chinese teams to South Korea, and Nintendo confirmed the outbreak will impact Animal Crossing: New Horizons shipments in Japan.

Developing...
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are africans just to stupid to work in factories?
Yes, as a matter of fact. The average IQ over there is low enough that if you set a room's temperature to it in F, you'd need a very good sweater and some thick slippers. The average IQ they've got to work with is too low for most of even the most menial tasks in the general workforce. We're talking legal mental retardation. Add in their utter lack of work ethic and absolutely nothing would get done aside from employee theft of company property. I firmly believe that everyone needs to watch Empire of Dust, which should still be up on Youtube in its entirety. You might even get some insight on the chinks that will make some of their behavior during the outbreak click.
 
Yes, as a matter of fact. The average IQ over there is low enough that if you set a room's temperature to it in F, you'd need a very good sweater and some thick slippers. The average IQ they've got to work with is too low for most of even the most menial tasks in the general workforce. We're talking legal mental exceptionalism. Add in their utter lack of work ethic and absolutely nothing would get done aside from employee theft of company property. I firmly believe that everyone needs to watch Empire of Dust, which should still be up on Youtube in its entirety. You might even get some insight on the chinks that will make some of their behavior during the outbreak click.

Oh I still remember that film. I wouldn't say it's a matter of intelligence as much as just what happens when you have a culture based mostly around "every man for himself" in a land with no infrastructure and a climate directly averse to human settlements.

Still kinda sadly hillarious when poor old Yang finally breaks and proclaims "I feel bad for them, but I also hate them." After so much time dealing with such inmesurable piles of bullshit from everyone in the country.

The reason I think its mostly about infrastructure and culture is that I've actually seen that kinda behavior here amongst the poor sectors on the worst areas. Won't enter into much info due to possible doxx but one of my contacts in healthcare is a technician which is both in charge of keeping a lot of informatic systems working and part of the union dealing with the lowest ranks amongst healthcare workers. Cleaning staff, cooks, whatever you call celadores in english. Basically all the rabble. I've lent them a hand by going with them unnoficially and trying to help fix certain issues. I can this whole myth about the noble poor person being oppressed by the system is fucking bullshit. You'd be horrified by what poverty does to people, they become twisted, egotistical, self serving pantomimes once their morals start breaking due to desperation. Sure some manage to stay sane. But most just become what you see in that video.

Also protip. Wanna know how a hospital works? Grab a pack of beer and go to the kitchen, tell them the union hired you and you wanna get up to date. A few hours later you'll know the best danmed kept state secrets and they'll know your first crush's name and adress. Those fuckers have so much time to spare its kind of disgusting and they're not ashamed to waste it being nosy fuckers. I cannot tell you how many issues were solved by going to the kitchen and finding out what the fuck actually was going on because either neither side of the issue was being honest or they simply didn't understand each other. But the cooks sure as shit knew every last damned detail. Sadly the cooks tend to be the biggest source of bullshit because their pay is shit and they have nothing to do for most of the day, and when that devolves into the next bit of bullcrap whatever poor schmuck has to deal with it will understand mr Yang's point of view. INTIMATELY.
 

Dont think I saw this info posted here for the Lackland quarantine.


57 To be let out from the Ashland quarantine tomorrow.
 
Actually it won't. That's the funny thing about economics. The needs are still there. All that's going to happen is that "income" will shift. It will go elsewhere as new sources spin up. Such as Apple moving production to Taiwan. It's going to cost China $1.1Tn. But that $1.1Tn will go elsewhere. Rising other non China economies. There just may be a few months lag as that fully happens.

This may be a blessing in disguise for the companies moving out of China. Most other possible destinations for the factories have the rule of law. Am guessing Vietnam would ensure the rule of law for the companies. The companies wouldn't need to worry about the CCP demanding any seats on the local subsidiary's board, or demanding CCP cadres be "employed" there, etc.
 
https://www.ijbs.com/v14p0253.htm

Very interesting study on air pollution and it’s affects on ACE2, I’m sure this has absolutely nothing to do with why the pollution goblins are dropping like flies compared to everyone else.

Juicy parts
“Inhaled particulate matter 2.5 (PM2.5) can cause lung injury by inducing serious inflammation in lung tissue. Renin-angiotensin system (RAS) is involved in the pathogenesis of inflammatory lung diseases and regulates inflammatory response. Angiotensin-converting enzyme II (ACE2), which is produced through the angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE)/angiotensin II (Ang II) axis, protects against lung disease.”

“Air pollution has worsened in recent years, particularly anthropogenic sources due to the development of heavy industry in recent years. Particulate matter 2.5 (PM2.5), an index of air pollution, is defined as particulate matter with an aerodynamic diameter of less than 2.5 μm and can adversely affect the respiratory and circulatory systems of humans [1, 2]. Approximately 96% of PM2.5were retained in the lungs given its size effect [3]. In addition, PM2.5 contains different components, such as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, oxygenated volatile organic compounds and heavy metals, which exert toxic effects”

“WT and ACE2 KO mice were treated with PM2.5 via intratracheal instillation once a day for 3 days and sacrificed at 2 and 5 days postinstillation. Body weight and RRR of the animals were monitored daily until sacrifice. The body weight of WT and ACE2 KO mice were markedly decreased throughout the entire PM2.5 treatment period and slightly recovered to almost their initial body weight at 5 days postinstillation (Fig. 2). However, the WT and ACE2 KO mice in the sham (saline treatment) control steadily gained body weight during the experimental period. RRR in the WT and ACE2 KO mice significantly increased during PM2.5instillation period and remained at a high level at 5 days postinstillation (Fig. 3). Compared with those of the mice of PM2.5treatment group, RRR of the WT and ACE2 KO mice in the sham group remained below 330 BPM throughout the experimental period.

Inflammatory cytokine levels were determined to confirm that whether PM2.5instillation could induce pulmonary inflammation in mice. At 2 days postinstillation, IL-6, TGF-β1 and TNF-α levels in the lungs significantly increased by 2.1-, 1.5- and 1.9-fold in WT mice, and 2.3-, 1.5- and 2.0-fold in ACE2 KO mice, respectively (Fig. 4). At 5 days postinstillation, the levels of IL-6 and TNF-α in the lungs of WT mice returned to almost their basal levels, whereas that of TGF-β1 still increased by 1.3-fold. IL-6, TGF-β1 and TNF-α levels in the lungs of ACE2 KO mice increased by 1.7-, 1.5-, 1.6-fold at 5 days postinstillation, respectively. In particular, IL-6 and TGF-β1 levels in ACE2 KO mice were significantly higher than those in WT mice (Fig. 4). The expression and distribution of TGF-β1 in the lungs were also detected by IHC staining (Fig. 5). TGF-β1 level in the lung tissues, especially in the bronchus, significantly increased at 2 and 5 days postinstillation.”

Conclusion:
The present study is the first to use a mouse model of PM2.5-induced ALI to investigate the effects of ACE2 deficiency. ACE2 deficiency would attenuate injury repair, inflammatory response and tissue remodeling in response to PM2.5 instillation. Therefore, ACE2 may have protected the respiratory system from PM2.5-induced injuries. Further studies, however, are necessary to validate this conclusion. Moreover, circulating or lung Ang II and Ang-(1-7) and the actions of both peptides on PM2.5-induced ALI remain to be further explored.
 
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Most african countries have regular power blackouts' horrid transport chains (barely even any proper roads and the ones there are are poorly maintained) and water shortages. They can't fucking deal with industrialization no matter the manpower.

Yeah, even South Africa, which was the most developed, functional and technological country of them all before 1994 now has endless power shortages - euphemistically called 'load shedding' caused by a mixture of incompetence and corruption regarding the state power company Eskom. Rolling blackouts have been going on there since 2007. It's now 2020 and it's getting worse, not better. Homes and businesses have to have their own generators or just sit and watch freezers defrost, refrigerated or frozen food stocks rendered unusable or spoiled and unsellable, factory production lines shut down, and this goes on daily, week in, week out. Since 2007, on and off. One of their greatest assets and source of revenue, their platinum mines, have to shut down because of lack of power. Oh, and when the power goes off, your home security systems/caameras go down with it and that's when you're likely to be a victim of the insane SA crime rate. Home invasions and burglaries peak when the power is off and in SA home invasions are often the feature that marksthe end of your life. Nobody wants to invest in South Africa or relocate there, rather people who want to start businesses or be entrepreneurs leave if they can, and SA still looks like a functional technical dreamland compared to much of the rest of the continent. Think of somewhere like Mali, or Congo, or Sudan ... no way would anyone try to reasonably manufacture or look for a workforce in those places.

Add in the crime levels and socio-political situation to the infrastructural woes - outside of South Africa most Sub-Saharan nations have longstanding, lethal ongoing issues with Islamic insurgenices, ethnic conflicts that turn bloody, civil wars, extremely low levels of education, high levels of violent crime, endemic corruption, terminal laziness and thieving, nobody with any choice would want to bring their families there to relocate and thus no business will invest in Africa. The only nation that does is .. China, with its belt and road initiative amd you see how that goes in Cities of Dust. They'll get the mining rights and the Africans will get the roads they'll neglect until they're functionally useless after so many years.
 
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Yeah, even South Africa, which was the most developed, functional and technological country of them all before 1994 now has endless power shortages - euphemistically called 'load shedding' caused by a mixture of incompetence and corruption regarding the state power company Eskom. Rolling blackouts have been going on there since 2007. It's now 2020 and it's getting worse, not better. Homes and businesses have to have their own generators or just sit and watch freezers defrost, refrigerated or frozen food stocks rendered unusable or spoiled and unsellable, factory production lines shut down, and this goes on daily, week in, week out. Since 2007, on and off. One of their greatest assets and source of revenue, their platinum mines, have to shut down because of lack of power. Oh, and when the power goes off, your home security systems/caameras go down with it and that's when you're likely to be a victim of the insane SA crime rate. Home invasions and burglaries peak when the power is off and in SA home invasions are often the feature that marksthe end of your life. Nobody wants to invest in South Africa or relocate there, rather people who want to start businesses or be entrepreneurs leave if they can, and SA still looks like a functional technical dreamland compared to much of the rest of the continent. Think of somewhere like Mali, or Congo, or Sudan ... no way would anyone try to reasonably manufacture or look for a workforce in those places.

Add in the crime levels and socio-political situation to the infrastructural woes - outside of South Africa most Sub-Saharan nations have longstanding, lethal ongoing issues with Islamic insurgenices, ethnic conflicts that turn bloody, civil wars, extremely low levels of education, high levels of violent crime, endemic corruption, terminal laziness and thieving, nobody with any choice would want to bring their families there to relocate and thus no business will invest in Africa. The only nation that does is .. China, with its belt and road initiative amd you see how that goes in Cities of Dust. They'll get the mining rights and the Africans will get the roads they'll neglect until they're functionally useless after so many years.
I read an article from the 80s saying if the Afrikaners did their own thing they could be socialist while preserving a free market, but if they did that they would have to carry 15 million nogs on their shoulders. Therefore it was better to be capitalist and let 10,000 of their own fall behind than have that happen.
 
Most african countries have regular power blackouts' horrid transport chains (barely even any proper roads and the ones there are are poorly maintained) and water shortages. They can't fucking deal with industrialization no matter the manpower.

That's the issue. All these leftie historical revisionist fucktards love to blame africa's ills on the evil whkte man. Well reality check mofos. Europe has actually consistently brought better infrastructure to africa. Issue is THEY DON'T HAVE WATER. And barely have ANYTHING else. They didn't even start settling for real until the brits brojght them irrigation. Well over 90% of that continent is an ass blasted arid piece of shit. Teying to build thr infrastructure needed to maintain the factories would be more expensive than BUYING THE GOD DAMNED COUNTRY.

It varies by country, but the worst basketcases in Africa are extremely corrupt, to the point that a foreign business owner has to shell out a shitload of money to government officials to break ground on a factory. Even the non-basketcase countries have a lot of workforce traditions that aren't conducive to running a profitable company. Unless you have foreigners making all the hiring decisions, your factory is going to be staffed entirely by the manager's family and friends, and they won't get fired, no matter how useless they are.

In addition to bad infrastructure, there's also the weather. The heat and humidity can fuck over production of a lot of goods.

The basketcase countries barely have a rule of law outside of the major cities.

A lot of people assume that factory workers are a bunch of dumbshits, but one reason why China is so popular for manufacturing is because its population is cheap and educated. Africans are cheap, but they're not well educated.

Africans also don't exactly have a Western, or Eastern, work ethic. I've even heard Africans in the U.S. joke about "African time". Workers show up when they show up, and they leave when they leave. I can't see Africans working themselves to suicide like Chinese Foxconn workers. They'd rather drive cabs or sell cigarettes to tourists, and, honestly, same.
 
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