Smugruko / Smug_Legend / Lory / MariEvangelion / Dekapai_Decade / Kokoro_Dev / @FurezoHarto - Former Anime/Videogame Journalist, Twitter Drama Whore, Habitual Liar, E-Cheated on 7 guys, and Currently running from her past by leeching onto different niche communities under some new alias but always getting caught cause she’s an idiot

What’s Next for Smug and her boyfriend Helmet?

  • Helmet grows a spine and breaks up with Smug

    Votes: 12 4.6%
  • Helmet yoinks Smug off the internet a second time before shot gets worse

    Votes: 3 1.1%
  • Helmet cries about how much his life sucks and doesn’t do a god damn thing

    Votes: 47 17.9%
  • Smug becomes an E-Girl who RPS with randos online and Helmet just except that he’s eternally a cuck

    Votes: 108 41.2%
  • Smug genuinely apologizes for her shitty behavior and begins to try to improve herself

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • Smug chugs dish-soap again, and we restart the cycle all over again

    Votes: 90 34.4%

  • Total voters
    262
  • Poll closed .
Do you think that if she'd post a picture of herself, some of the accusations against her would've gone debunked?

By this point, considering that the Duwang Gang gay ops made it's way to Twitter: absolutely fucking not. People have it ingrained their head that she's a dude despite people linking this thread and pointing out that legitimate pics of her on here.

Smug could start posting more pics aside from that grainy piece of shit that some right wing weeb account found and people will say she's a catfish.

Not to mention as @SinglePlayerCarl said: she's insecure about herself due to whatever she went through before she met Helmet.

No, sounds like she's talking about companies like Funimation that have script writers who inject their politics into some of their dubs (Prison School and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, notably.)
 
No, sounds like she's talking about companies like Funimation that have script writers who inject their politics into some of their dubs (Prison School and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, notably.)

tone doesn't carry well across the internet, it seems. I'm aware she's trashing companies like Funimation, but all of those descriptors apply to her own business. I tried and failed to make a joke, rip.
 
is she talking about escape zero?

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edit: "blocking means you're owned, unless I'm the one doing it"

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She can't read the part on the red highlight even
It said via PINNED TWEET OR SOMETHING
But hey do I expect any less ?
 
is she talking about escape zero?

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No, sounds like she's talking about companies like Funimation that have script writers who inject their politics into some of their dubs (Prison School and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, notably.)

I think she was actually talking about the removal of the two gays who molested Ryuji in Persona 5
 
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I think she was actually talking about the removal of the two gays who molested Ryuji in Persona 5

Could be both, honestly, because that person she quote tweeted does start off talking about some weebs who are upset about the removal/altering of the guys who harassed Ryuji before talking about the anime industry.
 
Do you think that if she'd post a picture of herself, some of the accusations against her would've gone debunked?

By this point, considering that the Duwang Gang gay ops made it's way to Twitter: absolutely fucking not. People have it ingrained their head that she's a dude despite people linking this thread and pointing out that legitimate pics of her on here.

Smug could start posting more pics aside from that grainy piece of shit that some right wing weeb account found and people will say she's a catfish.

Not to mention as @SinglePlayerCarl said: she's insecure about herself due to whatever she went through before she met Helmet.


No, sounds like she's talking about companies like Funimation that have script writers who inject their politics into some of their dubs (Prison School and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, notably.)


If people were less stupid, maybe. At the time, I would have 100% said yes, but now, the first half of my plan wouldn't have worked -- not with Lauren posting her face.

The entirety of the campaign hinged itself on the face she will not, did not, and continued to refuse to just post her face and not be held hostage.

If she had even proven that she wasn't the black guy they tried to frame her as, none of it would have worked for them as it did.

All of their tactics relied on the Duwang Gang of G+ Past smearing her before to be used against her now -- all because she used the same RP names as someone who I *still* can't confirm is who they claimed, but was indeed the other "catfisher" @Arb348 tried to frame her as.

It's ironic.​
The one time where her attention seeking behavior would have been her best move is the one time she refuses to be autistic about it for clout.​
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Smug has stated that she did some drawing in the past, however I haven’t seen any examples of this.

I've never seen a single page of art, and it's never come up into conversation, js.

Smug still mad that they removed the homosexuals from Persona 5 Royal.

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I think she was actually talking about the removal of the two gays who molested Ryuji in Persona 5
Funny note about that;

I've been looking into it, and it's actually a cover up: Atlus USA fucked up the P5 translations from the start, and the P5R brouhaha was them attempting to make a grand show of it so that no westerner would notice this change was ONLY for the US release.

In the original scene, this was the dialogue that's said in the original JP, translated by one of our other mutuals whose a native JP speaker, which was further backed up with an elaboration from someone explaining on Reddit:
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The reason people are screaming this was homophobic was because the game doesn't make it clear and pointed out that the reason these gay guy hit on him is because he's in a red light district, and they assume he's of age and also gay -- they don't know his character is a minor.

But, ResetEra users and stupid non-fans don't read or care about these details, so they latched onto the narrative to make posts like this:
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In the 4 days she's been back, she has tweeted almost 400 times.

Even with me being unemployed by her actions and struggling to find something to do for money other than stream, she still tweets more than I do, and 80% of my posts are RTs.

Could be both, honestly, because that person she quote tweeted does start off talking about some weebs who are upset about the removal/altering of the guys who harassed Ryuji before talking about the anime industry.

There's been some crossover tweets concerning this topic.

Recently, a jackass made this thread:
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And, just in case you needed to be sure if the opinion is trash:
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This lead to takes like this, out of one of the mutuals with reach that dwarfs Lauren's on this, explaining exactly why he's wrong as hell, made only better because Christina is trans and nullifies the "you can't correct me because I'm a protected minority" defense.

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How is it that someone with 23,400 followers still only gets around 20 likes per tweet?

The same way said person's business account has twenty times less followers than their main. That's how.

You'd think she would bot the business account and not the one she spends her time arguing with equally retarded people. But that would be too much of a smart thing to do.
 
This lead to takes like this, out of one of the mutuals with reach that dwarfs Lauren's on this, explaining exactly why he's wrong as hell, made only better because Christina is trans and nullifies the "you can't correct me because I'm a protected minority" defense.


so, it looks like that thread's gone now. mostly because it seemed like more than a little bullshit?

I think the original thread is a bit stupid (considering the revelation that the "homophobic" overtones are entirely absent within the original source material), but it's standard shit. but this response thread is making a lot of claims that the author fails to back up.

the argument of "Japan is a bigger market" is a bit asinine, because of course it is. nobody, even this dude you seem a bit MOTI about, is saying that it's not.

I remember seeing the "underpaid translator" claim a while back, but could never find a verifiable source for it. when I was googling around, i found that even you, when getting into a little slapfight about it on Twitter, couldn't provide one.

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this is the thread that exists now - free entirely of any claims about the financial side of things. it's competent enough. it speaks from a place the author actually seems familiar with.

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this is why we should have an anitwitter thread, imo. so many fun slapfights and endless troves of misinfo from all sides.
 
so, it looks like that thread's gone now. mostly because it seemed like more than a little bullshit?

I think the original thread is a bit stupid (considering the revelation that the "homophobic" overtones are entirely absent within the original source material), but it's standard shit. but this response thread is making a lot of claims that the author fails to back up.

the argument of "Japan is a bigger market" is a bit asinine, because of course it is. nobody, even this dude you seem a bit MOTI about, is saying that it's not.

I remember seeing the "underpaid translator" claim a while back, but could never find a verifiable source for it. when I was googling around, i found that even you, when getting into a little slapfight about it on Twitter, couldn't provide one.

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this is the thread that exists now - free entirely of any claims about the financial side of things. it's competent enough. it speaks from a place the author actually seems familiar with.

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this is why we should have an anitwitter thread, imo. so many fun slapfights and endless troves of misinfo from all sides.
Don’t you know that side of twitter is nothing but parroting the exact same opinion in different wording? There are different people copying and pasting faux reactions for clout. Carl’s just looking for that sweet influence to earn a couple shekels just like Smug, the trannies RoonKalos, Christiana, and Lilith Lovett.

They all do this to build up a reputation to own the SJWs and have enough simps to send them some dollars. People like seeing stupid people owned, and this thread is proof people will go through hurdles to see fights, or to support the one big account fighting.
 
Could be both, honestly, because that person she quote tweeted does start off talking about some weebs who are upset about the removal/altering of the guys who harassed Ryuji before talking about the anime industry.
so, it looks like that thread's gone now. mostly because it seemed like more than a little bullshit?

I think the original thread is a bit stupid (considering the revelation that the "homophobic" overtones are entirely absent within the original source material), but it's standard shit. but this response thread is making a lot of claims that the author fails to back up.

the argument of "Japan is a bigger market" is a bit asinine, because of course it is. nobody, even this dude you seem a bit MOTI about, is saying that it's not.

I remember seeing the "underpaid translator" claim a while back, but could never find a verifiable source for it. when I was googling around, i found that even you, when getting into a little slapfight about it on Twitter, couldn't provide one.

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this is the thread that exists now - free entirely of any claims about the financial side of things. it's competent enough. it speaks from a place the author actually seems familiar with.

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this is why we should have an anitwitter thread, imo. so many fun slapfights and endless troves of misinfo from all sides.
Oh, the source for the underpaid translator claims? Those come from GlassDoor salary comparisons from what people were being paid or underpaid while working for the California offices of Crunchyroll, which got brought up again because of CR announcing how they upgraded to newly built offices, which always brings out the reminder posts about it.

Here's some of the posts typically getting brought up about it, when the argument crops up normally, and some of that proof:
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It's not that I couldn't provide one, it's that the rates of pay CR gives explicitly compared to the rest of the industry are based on multiple factors requiring self-reporting income and comparisons to them between all points and factors of the industry-- numbers which CR, and Funimation don't announce or report much if ever expect through self-reporting comparisons on sites like GlassDoor by current/former employees;

Mainly because, most of those people's salaries are freelancers, and alot of the information concerning the point is mostly unreliable due to variance.

It's always been agreed upon and known that anime dubbers and script translators are massively underpaid for their work, especially CR employees working in CA -- it just gets muted or ignored in favor of the more annoying Jamie Marchi "IM MAKING ALL YOUR ANIME POLITICAL AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME" cases and reality of general censorship and wokescold mightier-than-thou attitudes from these groups pushing these arguments, and they know that we all know this.

Ultimately, you don't even need to talk about the financial side of the business to make that point -- because Christina is right, it's not about the money, it's about non-fans, progressive dipsticks, and general RE idiots demanding and crying outrage to make or outright harassing companies to make changes to eastern works (including even fan-translations that are translated accurately to the text), and then purity-spiraling about it's not good enough, and then harassing others about how problematic thier desired changes made it.​
For example, how they bullied the fansubber for Goemon into deleting their account because they accurately translated the game, including the term "newhalf", only to then "correct" it to trans because RE heard it used to be a 'transphobic slur' -- only to change the context of the scenes for the worse, because it was part of a dialogue about how the character that self-ID'd with that term struggling with telling their partner about their sexuality.​
TL;DR: They hounded him, and Atlus USA using the same tactics -- only to either make it worse or to continue the ResetEra Shuffle.​

In fact, this is just part of a bigger reporting cycle concerning ResetEra, because this is literally all they ever do, concerning any situation -- it's just getting watered down by people like I said earlier for attention and a chance to "own the gamers" , "own the chuds", "show what gamer fragility looks like."

To demonstrate this, here are some choice archives about explicitly this constant point of contention, illustrated by ResetEraTake's documentation of it all for Jan and Feb:









Fortunately, the ResetEraTakes account did us all the favor of documenting everything that comes out about this that we now have this take to demonstrate/illustrate that same point Christina is making:

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Don’t you know that side of twitter is nothing but parroting the exact same opinion in different wording? There are different people copying and pasting faux reactions for clout. Carl’s just looking for that sweet influence to earn a couple shekels just like Smug, the trannies RoonKalos, Christiana, and Lilith Lovett.

They all do this to build up a reputation to own the SJWs and have enough simps to send them some dollars. People like seeing stupid people owned, and this thread is proof people will go through hurdles to see fights, or to support the one big account fighting.

You're not wrong, just not the right reasons of why/how I'm involved here.

The majority of most of the people getting the most attention is fueled by people like me doing the groundwork of looking into something, then followed by someone of bigger reach seeing that, or asking them to look into that, who then takes that information, RTs it, summarizes it into cliff notes that then tweets that, and somewhere after the arguments reach the general public of a community on said topic, Lauren gets her grimy hands on it and shits it up.

It basically looks like this:

Niche Investigator/Researcher -> Moderately known twitter poster -> Massively known twitter poster -> "The General Public" -> Smug/Lauren.

If I fit anywhere into this scheme, as I see it, it's at the start of the chain. It's actually a perfect representation of the 48h news cycle observable on Legacy Media, except faster and more invasive & renewable, because of how social media encourages emotional responses both passionate and outrageous.

Lauren was using me (and my research/work) to just jump straight ahead of that line and be able to have the benefit of getting it right & getting it first while being not informative and not funny/likable enough for people to care, which is why she constantly picks fights to make up for that attention-- whereas everyone else in this system, as I see it, do similar if not the same thing, but just appeal to different or similar if not the same niche audiences and communities, while having the benefit of having similar arguments but tackling them from different angles and amounts of experience/observation.


As for "earning a couple shekels" -- you're goddamn right. I'm still among the number of people who went and still are, and at this point, never will be paid for my work, my research, or any amount of my services during my official employment for Lauren, or even out of general appreciation for what I did for her for free as, what I thought I was, a friend.​
Boy, was I fucking stupid for ever thinking that.​
another brother impoverished, fleeced & cucked by the huwite™ race.​


But seriously though, it goes back to what I said before about Lauren putting in the work: she doesn't and I do.

It's not even a money thing, I actually give a shit about my hobby, my ideas, and the things I'm involved in.

I wouldn't waste the reasearch time on the topics if I didn't. I know what my value and worth is to myself, and I'm not going to let someone liek her and this whole experience discourage me or silence me like you've witnessed her try to when I never wanted anything to come to this.

It was my original investigation into her abusive behavior that set off this avalanche of tard cum and gay ops, bore out of my original work experience.

So why not make use of that skill, while making/doing something that gives others some type of value other than just smug arguments on the internet or neverending fights about nothing of importance?
 

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except, according to glassdoor itself, that exceeds the average.
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and roughly median according to PayScale -
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You forgot about/left out the factor that that's in CA -- a state that assblasts people for taxes and cost of living expenses. The salaries for most of the freelancers from users that come and go in these arguments, including the user in the RE thread, say that it's what said they were promised, whereas in reality, it doesn't add up to be enough.

I wish when I had first started I had archived more, because someone once did a tell-all about this backseat couch behavior concerning companies like Funimation, way before #WeebWars became a thing surrounding Vic Mignogna -- that the pay would fluctuate based on how "valued" people were considered on projects concerning the usual suspects of that industry.


Hit me with the thunkprovok rating here, because it's all chin-scratching to me. You'd have to get a big boss for a company/circle like Funimation or CR/Ellation like Justin Cook to open the books and point it out.​
I'm just reporting what I know & what/where the leads take me, for the most part.​
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Ultimately, you don't even need to talk about the financial side of the business to make that point -- because Christina is right, it's not about the money, it's about non-fans, progressive dipsticks, and general RE idiots demanding and crying outrage to make or outright harassing companies to make changes to eastern works (including even fan-translations that are translated accurately to the text), and then purity-spiraling about it's not good enough, and then harassing others about how problematic thier desired changes made it.
 
i honestly couldn't care less about the culture war shit - it's the fact that people are using lies to seem superior to the "other side" that tends to get my goat.

also, here's info on both the average salary for a translator in LA and the general average salary. not exactly damning for CR.

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