Sluthate has good and bad, like any forum. Probably more bad than most forums I've frequented, but a lot of really fucking insightful good. The borderline/not-so borderline pedophiles are bad. The racists are bad(but they're made fun of and called stormfrontcels on the regular). The name of the place is bad. But the discussions of aesthetics are really really good. It's probably the best place on the internet for discussions regarding male aesthetics and sexual attraction, and while it's clear that a lot of people here will dismiss everybody who goes in depth on that topic as gay, it's actually crucial for improving yourself, with or without surgery. If you know what women want, then you'll know how best to improve yourself. And while there's a ton of debate over "what women want" and there always will be, it should be pretty obvious to anyone that isn't completely deluded that men with certain facial and bodily features are favored by women. It is also well documented and pretty obvious if you pay attention that better looking people are treated better in general. Of course, confirmation bias can go overboard here, but the general principle is an almost undeniable truth. Personally, I don't see what's so bad about recognizing these truths and discussing their application in real life. I'm sure a lot of it comes off as aspie, which is what I thought when I was first bombarded with talk of "maxilla" and "gonial angle", but the same would be true if you walked in on a bunch of astrophysics majors talking about the Chandrasekhar limit or some other shit. SHers are not scientists, but a lot of it is backed up by empirical data and some "experiments"(Tinder with very good-looking people). I don't think I'm as bitter as a lot of SHers since I have sex with "prime females"(another phrase which is aspie af), but that doesn't mean I can't see the the truth in a lot of the discussions. It actually makes it easier to see the truth in a lot of SH's theories. This post is probably too far gone with shitposting for anyone to care, but I feel like SH has some very interesting and truthful material under a veneer of shitposting that is hard not to defend.