Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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A couple days ago China was lit up like a Christmas tree under the "Epidemics" Region. Now, nothing. A bit more news shows up if you choose "China" as the region, but it appears the CCP has been effective in ramping up the info blackout. Or Liveuamap has been compromised by globohomo shills.
 
Africa is going to explode into a mushroom cloud of diseased death. They're still dealing with a rampant Ebola outbreak, imagine the Coronavirus sweeping in on top of it, and in one of the most impoverished, ignorant, unhygienic and water-poor regions on Earth.

I'm just surprised that there were infections in India but it has yet to even begin buzzsawing through their overcrowded and notoriously unhygienic populace. There are more people dying in desert regions of the Middle East than there are in India, I just can't believe that they're not getting hosed right now and hiding numbers themselves.

A counterpoint to that is the fact that many third world shitholes have a good percentage of their population in poor health. Coronavirus could be ravaging some areas and nobody would really tell the difference. You still get some dumbasses who come in here and say “it’s just a flu bro, nothing to worry about”, imagine if you’re in some country where most of the population is functionally illiterate and the nearest hospital is worthless. Might as well keep working and try to ride it out.

Of course, you will never know until it’s too late and if you die, nobody is going to suspect coronavirus because it could be similar to any number of illnesses like flu, pneumonia, etc. You’ll die from it but since you never reported it, you’re not tracked as a statistic. This is why this virus is spreading all over. We reached the global pandemic stage a long time ago but because governments are afraid to be honest due to hurt feelz, economy, etc., people aren’t finding out until it’s too late. Wouldn’t be shocked if we’re well past a few million who are infected.
 
Africa is going to explode into a mushroom cloud of diseased death. They're still dealing with a rampant Ebola outbreak, imagine the Coronavirus sweeping in on top of it, and in one of the most impoverished, ignorant, unhygienic and water-poor regions on Earth.

I'm just surprised that there were infections in India but it has yet to even begin buzzsawing through their overcrowded and notoriously unhygienic populace. There are more people dying in desert regions of the Middle East than there are in India, I just can't believe that they're not getting hosed right now and hiding numbers themselves.

It's likely a combination of two things, one is that their ability to positively identify those with the disease is likely lacking. As a result, the disease has likely spread there drawing little attention.

The other is that unlike Western media, many Middle Eastern and African shit-holes are not very forthcoming with things like this. Their governments are probably cowtowing to China and trying to prevent panic.

I was listening to Dr Campbell yesterday, pointing out that Ethiopia has seen flights in and out of China with no measures or anything to try and prevent spread.

The only saving grace is that Virus' tend not to spread as quickly in warm climates. I doubt that's the explanation.


Iran has had 6 deaths from 28 infections... Which sounds like nonsense to me - I think there's many more infections than 28. If it isn't, god help the 3rd world because this could show what the death rate might be without adequate healthcare made available.
 
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No shit, Sherlock....

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Carneval in Venice is off, but don't be sad. Your fancy mask will come in handy

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Can we get any confirmation on this?
Yes, people in the lockdown zone can't leave their town.
Yes, if you try you'll be arrested and thrown in jail for three months (Lol, maybe when the emergency is called off? Idk) and you'll have to pay a fine of 260 €
Yes, tests are mandatory.
Schools and public activities in the lockdown zone are closed
School trips in Italy and abroad are suspended
There's talking about closing all schools and unis in the rest of the country

Article from our National Press Association (ANSA)

132 people are positive for coronavirus in Italy. This was said by Commissioner Angelo Borrelli (commissioner of the Civil Protection, a corp of volunteers who act during emergency - they're not soldier, btw) making a point with the reporters on the coronavirus emergency stressing that 26 of these are in intensive care.

Entering or leaving the 'outbreak' areas of the virus is forbidden, the prohibition will be manned by the police and, if necessary, also by the military, with criminal sanctions for those who violate the prescriptions. Stop to school trips in Italy and abroad, suspension of all public events - starting from all those scheduled for tomorrow in Lombardy and Veneto, including Serie A - quarantine with "active surveillance" for all those who have been in contact with confirmed cases of the virus. And again, closing of schools, shops and museums, stops at competitions, private work activities and public offices, without prejudice to essential services, limitation on the movement of goods and people.

The mayor of Milan, Giuseppe Sala, asked "on a precautionary level that the schools should be closed in the city. I will propose to the president of the Lombardy Region, Attilio Fontana - he said - to broaden the intervention at the metropolitan city level. It is a prudential intervention Today we try to do it for a week and I think it will be enough. There are many events in the city, I don't imagine a closed city in which everything is canceled but those that are not mandatory and postponed maybe it will be common sense to postpone them ".

The mayor Sala then specified that the "provision" for closing schools "is better taken by the Region on Milan and the Metropolitan City. I could do it regardless of another formula, but I would like to be the actor of a decision that has a more complete sense. This is why I made the proposal to the Region and I think there will be no problems - he concluded -. Today we will do it for a week and I think it will be enough. It is the carnival week and some schools are already closed from Thursday so I think it is logical to extend the decision from Monday and also to the Metropolitan City ".

To those who asked him if he will suspend the measures of Area C and Area B, the limited traffic areas of the city, in order not to crowd public transport, Sala replied that "already with the closure of the schools, it becomes much lighter".

"The numbers of the night leads to 89 infected in Lombardy - said the president of Lombardy Attilio Fontana - and therefore on a national basis" unfortunately "surely" exceeds one hundred. The number of people who will have to stay in solitary confinement to avoid that we have Coronavirus "will be very relevant", other structures are being sought besides the military hospital of Baggio in Milan and the aeronautical lodgings in Piacenza. It is considering "a decommissioned hospital and hotel facilities that are available. Further provisions will soon be promulgated. I believe - Fontana said - that we should thank the attitude taken by Lombard citizens who accepted the limitations, who acted following the advice data, which did not dramatize proving to be a community of serious people. We must thank them for this and insist that they still follow us and also follow the further provisions that will soon be promulgated ".

In Friuli Venezia Giulia from tomorrow until 1 March inclusive all didactic activities and exams will be suspended, as well as conferences and debates of the Universities of Trieste and Udine and of the International School of Advanced Studies of the Julian capital. Libraries and study rooms will also be closed. The Fvg Region and the regional academic authorities agreed on this.

The number of people infected with coronavirus in Veneto has risen to 25 (including the deceased man). Among the new sick also two elderly people from Venice, hospitalized in the city hospital, announced the governor Luca Zaia. In the outbreak of Vo 'Euganeo alone there are now a total of 19 infections.

The Deputy Minister for Health, Pierpaolo Sileri, specifies that "our task is to contain the infections, but we are already alerted to a stage that is even subsequent to what we have today. You need close contact to get infected, so let's be careful. "

The Minister of Infrastructures and Transport Paola De Micheli assured that the goal is "to isolate the virus and not the people. We have decided on the basis of scientific evidence because it is fundamental, at this moment, to protect everyone's health. For this reason, for people who live in places of containment, we will make important economic and care decisions. And it must be clear that nobody will be left alone. "

The Interior Ministry decided that "Ocean Viking will land in the port of Pozzallo. In order to ensure adequate prevention measures, migrants will be kept in quarantine in the hotspot of the Sicilian town. For the same precautionary purposes, the ship's personnel will remain isolated at on board for as long as necessary. The competent authorities will carry out the assessments and health surveillance deemed essential "
 
They're locking everything down, but the situation is probably fucked already. Some guy managed to evade quarantine and travelled from Codogno to Irpinia, to their family. They basically travelled from the north to the south of Italy before being intercepted. If they used public transportation things could get truly dire.
 
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>Jeri Seratti-Goldman

Martin Luther was right about the jews.
Literally spreading a plague...
Oy Vey ! Don't be anti semite now ! This isn't some poison... I mean... look at the nice violet colors in this bucket... I was just pouring lavander in all of your wells... It gives water a nice perfume ! I swear we didn't do that all across europe in the early middle ages to sell some miraculous cure...

Go back to the fields and stop worrying when your crops are dying.
 
Another death on Diamond Princess:

A third passenger has died after contracting the coronavirus on a cruise ship that was quarantined off Japan, the country’s health ministry said on Sunday.

In a statement, the ministry identified the victim as a Japanese man in his 80s who was also suffering from other ailments.

He was removed from the Diamond Princess and taken to a local hospital after testing positive for COVID-19, the statement said, without giving details on when he tested positive or where he was being treated.

The man’s cause of death was given as pneumonia, the statement added.


The death comes after two other elderly passengers, also both Japanese and in their 80s, died on Thursday after contracting the virus.



 
Africa won't go up like a mushroom cloud. More like a rolling blanket of death.

As much as I like to defend my folks in Nigeria, even they say they're going to die, and horribly. Why? Usually they can be clever, but they're not going to be able to be clever about this. Remember, I said the Nigeria government is offering a cash prize? ~USD$71,000. Yeah, you're going to have the true scientists and doctors drowned out by the fundamentalist Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentacostals, and Muslims. These people also mix their folk beliefs into the religion, which then bleed over (pun intended) into practices. Even worse is that those horrifying schemers will have political support. A local politician will laud the work, very much in the same vein (pun intended) as the Chinese with TCM, saying they don't need outside help with this, and their voice will carry.

I think we all remember Ms. "Decolonize Science". That's a small example of thinking that is spreading (pun intended) through some colleges.

And then you have guys like this:

"For additional evidence, Amalaha cited the truism that two identical chemical agents do not yield a reaction, as well as the fact that he’d never seen a lion have sex with another lion. The next step, he says, is to publish the findings in an international journal. He believes his work is worthy of the Nobel Prize."

The rest of the world debunked, but you can be damn sure he had support by politicians.

I'm hoping my family can avoid infection and get the fuck out.
 
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You'd be surprised how fucking exceptional the terrorists get. *They still think salty water and sweet water don't mix.* I'm not fucking kidding here, that shit's in the quran and you'd be surprised how many muslims will not just defend it but even try to use it as evidence of their scripture's divine wisdom. And there's so many muslim creatards even here in europe... it's a fucking mess. I swear I heard that shit from the first time when debating a moroccan migrant on creationism and I just burst out laughing 'cause we were literally in a coastal province with plenty of rivers it was like "wanna take a trip and fucking check that shit?!" Like... even discounting where he migrated to Morocco is almost all coast and has multiple rivers how have people not bloody gotten the memmo where those end up?! I'll never understand this shit I swear. It just makes no sense. Point is: don't expect proper medical knowledge from people who have yet to grasp that if you put a well too close to the coast and take too much water from it it'll start getting progressively saltier. Even though they live in the fucking coast.

Old habits die hard. During the early days of the crusade, muslims thought Allah was on their side and would guide their arrows into the crusader's hearts, so they didn't even bother aiming their shots propperly. Meanwhile, the european bowmen took aim carefully and shot the muslims to shit - and they had plenty of time aiming, since the incoming fire fell short or went down way off to the sides. Similarly, the muslims thought Allah would protect them from cavalry charges, which they seemed to regret, once a couple hundred heavily armed and armored knights smashed through their loose formations over and over.
Took them a while to learn that praying to Allah isn't a godmode cheatcode.

Apparently, that way of thinking is even present to this day, with Taliban literally doing "spray and pray", wondering why they don't hit for shit.
Now, we have these people apparently thinking that just praying to Allah enough will make you immune to Corona-Chan's lapdance of doom.
I've already seen tweets and such by muslims claiming that Corona is a divine punishment for China's plans to rewrite the Quran, would play into their delusion that they are untouchable for this sickness, since it was send to punish unbelievers.

If this thing is still around when the Hajj starts, it's going to be massive. The Hajj isn't just a great opportunity for Corona-chan to spread her love amongst several thousands of people, they are also from all over the world, acting as a springboard for another wave of infections in countless nations across the globe.

So yeah, Corona might fuck up China and the muslim world...

Though I doubt China will be toppled by this sickness, no matter how incompetent the political leadership is. They didn't get toppled during the great leap forward, they didn't get toppled during the cultural revolution, I doubt they will get toppled over this. Not unless the military gets either taken out by a massive spread of Corona amongst their ranks, making them unable to defend the government -or- if they start rethinking their loyalty towards the goverment for some reason.
 
Right around the time this thread started I was going home on a train sitting next to an obviously sick young Chinese woman. She coughed several times and I moved away from her and covered my face, not because she was Chinese but she's sick, we're in an enclosed space with lots of people in winter and I don't want to catch what she has. Shortly afterward I came down with a mild cold, I felt awful but it ran its course over the next few days. It's gone, whatever it was.

That's the problem with the lack of information, concern and absolute shilling for the CCP and the usual a"YOU'RE RACISS" spergs; for all I know I had coronavirus or it may have just been a seasonal cold. Because symptoms can be mild I could have fought it off or had it turn into something way more serious. If I had it, it came and went, meanwhile I could have spread it to who knows how many people.

No one knows, not because it's some mystery illness that has scientists baffled, it's the opposite. No one knows because the authorities in charge decided to acquiesce to Xi and the CCP, keep the supply chain and markets going and heaven forbid some slants and dangerhairs get triggered. We know how this virus spreads and who's severely affected but let's risk a serious pandemic because they're afraid the Chinks will have a tantrum.

We're like serfs whose overlords make decisions based on how events affect their bank accounts, the peasantry be damned. We're marginally better off than some nobody in Wuhan. I hope the globalist shills all get this virus, it'll be the only time it'll get taken seriously.
 
Old habits die hard. During the early days of the crusade, muslims thought Allah was on their side and would guide their arrows into the crusader's hearts, so they didn't even bother aiming their shots propperly. Meanwhile, the european bowmen took aim carefully and shot the muslims to shit - and they had plenty of time aiming, since the incoming fire fell short or went down way off to the sides. Similarly, the muslims thought Allah would protect them from cavalry charges, which they seemed to regret, once a couple hundred heavily armed and armored knights smashed through their loose formations over and over.
Took them a while to learn that praying to Allah isn't a godmode cheatcode.

Apparently, that way of thinking is even present to this day, with Taliban literally doing "spray and pray", wondering why they don't hit for shit.
Now, we have these people apparently thinking that just praying to Allah enough will make you immune to Corona-Chan's lapdance of doom.
I've already seen tweets and such by muslims claiming that Corona is a divine punishment for China's plans to rewrite the Quran, would play into their delusion that they are untouchable for this sickness, since it was send to punish unbelievers.

If this thing is still around when the Hajj starts, it's going to be massive. The Hajj isn't just a great opportunity for Corona-chan to spread her love amongst several thousands of people, they are also from all over the world, acting as a springboard for another wave of infections in countless nations across the globe.

So yeah, Corona might fuck up China and the muslim world...

Though I doubt China will be toppled by this sickness, no matter how incompetent the political leadership is. They didn't get toppled during the great leap forward, they didn't get toppled during the cultural revolution, I doubt they will get toppled over this. Not unless the military gets either taken out by a massive spread of Corona amongst their ranks, making them unable to defend the government -or- if they start rethinking their loyalty towards the goverment for some reason.
The times are different now. During those Mao's fuck ups Chinese people were dirt poor farmers with no contact to the outside world or other parts of China. Now significant portion Chinese people have access to outside world and they know about heretical ideas like having individual rights. China, while still being largely poor country, has a middle class of tens of millions and they will get angry if or when CCP fucks up their economy and causes them to lose the modern comforts they have become accustomed to. CCP's strategy for several decades has been "You can make a lot money if you let CCP do their thing". Once the money stops people will start asking uncomfortable questions and bucking against CCP. As a side note Xi's cult of personality is far weaker than Mao's. Just google Mao's mangoes.
 
I saw the video with information about exponential growth of swine flu in 2009. It was quite sobering. My question is why the economic impact of swine flu wasn't nearly as disastrous as what some people predict now will be the result of coronavirus?
Perhaps you want to share a comparison between the economic impact of Swine Flu and the Wuhan Flu? Or at least point at the numbers you are citing? My understanding was the Swine Flu wiped out a large part of the Pork industry in Asia, but losses to individual businesses do not always equate to macro-level economic losses.

Economists use different measures to estimate impact, but Wuhan was a particularly bad place for this outbreak to start. In today's global economy, this has shut down supply chains affecting every country in the world. Apple has been saying they won't have enough iPhones to meet demand because component parts made in Wuhan have dried up and won't be available again for 4 months (which means some factories supplying the component parts manufacturer have been very hard hit, smaller ones may have lost their entire workforce.)

One of the downsides about globalism is you get highly specialized manufacturing zones. It's impossible to find another place to get some things made because they don't exist, you have to build them again from scratch someplace else. Sometimes that's easy to do, sometimes not.
 
I saw the video with information about exponential growth of swine flu in 2009. It was quite sobering. My question is why the economic impact of swine flu wasn't nearly as disastrous as what some people predict now will be the result of coronavirus?
Because alarmism generates more ad revenue and clicks.
 
Old habits die hard. During the early days of the crusade, muslims thought Allah was on their side and would guide their arrows into the crusader's hearts, so they didn't even bother aiming their shots propperly. Meanwhile, the european bowmen took aim carefully and shot the muslims to shit - and they had plenty of time aiming, since the incoming fire fell short or went down way off to the sides. Similarly, the muslims thought Allah would protect them from cavalry charges, which they seemed to regret, once a couple hundred heavily armed and armored knights smashed through their loose formations over and over.
Took them a while to learn that praying to Allah isn't a godmode cheatcode.
Amazing, they're just like 40K Orks without the psychic gestalt. That is how stupid they are.

I'm surprised they don't just starve to death because they think Allah will feed them.
 
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