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I do feel like CCP was completely taken by surprise about how other nations reacted to news of wuflu. I think they totally thought they had more soft power than they do. To have other nations that they considered to be their equals close the door on them must have done huge damage to lot of big egos.

Pride goeth before a fall. The CCP will be staying bummed out for some time, as more and more foreign companies pack up and move out of China. Bet construction crews in Vietnam, likely other places, have been busy for weeks. You can also bet existing operations in places other than China are going all-out to get product out there. You can also bet pharmaceutical manufacturers in places other than China have ramped up to replace missing Chinese output wherever possible.

This is also going to complicate things for the CCP in China, as thousands of Chinese workers are laid off from factories that have left the country. Hmmm...sort of like what a lot of American workers faced when their factory jobs went overseas.

Thought of another thing it might be worth buying now - athletic shoes. If you are a runner/walker/jogger, you probably go through a pair of shoes in 2-3 months. I do. Just bought three pairs of New Balance shoes, delivered, for just under $100. New Balance, like Nike and some other brands, have outlet stores on eBay. Bought three pairs of New Balance shoes a few months ago, made in Vietnam. As can be expected, the selection will vary at the brand outlets, but for now you can get New Balance running shoes for under $30/pair.

These outlet stores sell more than shoes. Check them out. Costs nothing to do so.
 
Apologies if this is massively late - I've been away from the keyboard since Thursday and find myself about 20 pages back...
My local NHS GP practice sent out helpful texts on Thursday and Friday. (20th & 21st Feb). No idea if this is a nationwide thing or just my GP or Health Trust being proactive.
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I'll collect my late ratings when I get to the head of end of the thread thanks.
 
Pharmacies work the same way. Which should scare people, tbh. If there was some kind of massive disruption we'd make it two weeks at most before we were reduced to putting essential oils on people and reading from the Bible 'cause that's all we got.
To some degree, this has to do with shelf-life of certain medications, afaik.

I mean, there is a difference between stocking large quantities of medication that might spoil over a few weeks and having a large stock of sensors that could literally be used after sitting in a crate 20 years after being made.
 
After some people posted articles from JPost I decided to have a look at the coronavirus tag, and looks like israel is about to get fucked
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Israel's Ministry of Health confirmed that nine South Koreans who tested positive for coronavirus were in Israel February 8-15.
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Nine South Koreans who tested positive for coronavirus visited Israel
On Saturday, the total number of coronavirus cases in South Korea more than doubled to 433, Samsung closed down a factory after one employee had been confirmed to be infected.
By REUTERS
FEBRUARY 23, 2020 08:38

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Workers from a disinfection service company sanitize a street in front of a branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony where a woman known as Patient 31 attended a service in Daegu, South Korea, February 19, 2020 (photo credit: YONHAP VIA REUTERS)


Workers from a disinfection service company sanitize a street in front of a branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony where a woman known as "Patient 31" attended a service in Daegu, South Korea, February 19, 2020

(photo credit: YONHAP VIA REUTERS)

Israel's Ministry of Health confirmed that nine South Koreans who tested positive for coronavirus were in Israel February 8-15. The ministry is working on tracking their movements so they can isolate individuals who came in close contact with the group.

Ministry of Health confirms that 9 South Koreans who tested positive for #coronavirus had returned from a trip to #Israelearlier this month (8.2 - 15.2).

Ministry now working to track their movements and isolate individuals who came into close contact with the group.
— Eytan Halon (@eytanhalon) February 22, 2020

The Health Ministry released the group's schedule so citizens can check if they were in contact with the group. The group visited the city of Caesarea, Masada, Mount Olives, Mount Zion, the national park in Beersheba, as well as several churches and other places.

As a result of this incident, as well the the growing number of cases of the coronavirus in South Korea, the Administration of Border Crossings, Population and Immigration has barred entry to tourist coming from Seoul through Ben-Gurion Airport who are supposed to arrive tonight. Israelis who are on the flight will be asked t follow the directions of the ministry of health. This is not yet a comprehensive ban that would include all South Korean nationals.

Foreign Minister Israel Katz instructed the Foreign Ministry on Saturday to hold an urgent discussion on the possible significance and international implications that the Korean tourists who visited Israel that were found carrying the Wuhan coronavirus would have for the State of Israel, and to take necessary preventative actions around the world.

Minister Katz instructed the ministry's management to support any stringent directive that the Ministry of Health provided with regard to preventing the entry of passengers from various countries around the world that could pose a health risk to the Israeli population.


"The main consideration is the preservation of both the health of Israeli citizens and the ability of the State of Israel to continue and maintain good relations with countries around the world, as a country that adheres to strict rules and is not infected with the Corona virus."

The Health Ministry has ordered that anyone who was in direct contact with the group, which is defined as having been within 2 meters (6.56 feet) of them for at least 15 minutes quarantine themselves at home for 14 days since the date of contact.

The ministry also said that anyone who develops coronavirus symptoms, such as a fever of more than 38 degrees celsius (100 degrees fahrenheit) or coughing needs to be examined by a medical professional.

Those who were in the same place as the group at the same time, but were not in direct contact with them are not required to go into quarantine.

Coronavirus
cases in South Korea more than doubled on Saturday to 433 and officials flagged the tally could rise significantly higher as more than 1,000 people who attended a church at the center of the outbreak reported flu-like symptoms.

Korea's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported 142 new cases at a morning briefing and another 87 in the afternoon. It had reported 204 cases on Friday.

Samsung Electronics on Saturday said one of the virus cases had been confirmed at its mobile device factory complex in Gumi, causing a shutdown of the facility there until Monday morning. Gumi is close to Daegu.

Samsung's factory in Gumi accounts for a small portion of its total smartphone production, as the world's top smartphone maker produces most of its products in Vietnam and India.
The death toll from the outbreak in mainland China, where it originated, rose to 2,345 as of Friday with over 76,000 people infected.

Also among the new cases were the first reported infections in Busan, South Korea's second-largest city, and on the Island of Jeju, a popular tourist destination.

KCDC designated both the city of Daegu, which has a population of 2.5 million people, and Cheongdo county, home to around 43,000 people, as "special care zones" on Friday. Officials were sending in military medical staff and other health workers, and extra resources, including hospital beds.

At least half of the national cases are linked to a 61-year-old woman known as "Patient 31" who attended religious services at a branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in Daegu, the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony. The woman had no recent record of overseas travel, authorities said.

KCDC said on Saturday they had obtained a list of 9,300 people who had attended church services, around 1,200 of whom had complained of flu-like symptoms.

"We are conducting investigation based on the database ... we have obtained," KCDC Director Jeong Eun-kyeong told reporters.

The church and Cheongdo hospital outbreaks may also be linked as several church members attended a funeral at the hospital for the brother of the founder of the church earlier this month. President Moon Jae-in has called for officials to investigate potential links.

Cases from the hospital surged from 18 to 111 overnight, with all but two of the new infections from the hospital's psychiatric unit.

"We think the patients had repeated exposure given the isolated facility of the psychiatric wards where many patients share the same room," KCDC Director Jeong Eun-kyeong told reporters.

The hospital, which has around 600 patients and staff, has been closed and patients are still being transferred to other facilities.

SEOUL RALLIES GO AHEAD

Two people have died in South Korea in the current outbreak; a woman in her fifties who was moved from to Busan for treatment and a 63-year-old man. Both were patients at the Cheongdo hospital.

Among the new cases confirmed on Saturday, two were in Busan, while one was on Jeju, a soldier stationed on the island who had come into contact with residents in the Daegu area. The government had previously banned all military personnel at a Daegu base from leaving the barracks.

In the capital of Seoul, thousands of people took to the streets on Saturday for regular weekend political rallies, despite the city's mayor on Friday saying the gatherings would be banned as part of containment measures.

Seoul police told Reuters they were aware of the ban but it would be an "abuse of power" for them to intervene. Police could only begin an investigation into the rallies if the city administration sued an individual or groups, an official said.

The coronavirus originated in China before spreading to some 26 countries and territories outside mainland China.

Jerusalem Post Staff contributed to this report.



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Bunch of carrier Koreans took a trip across the entire country.

Israel also considering quarantining 200 Korean tourists:

Destinations for which you have to quarantine if you came in from to Israel:
China, Hong Kong, Thailand, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, Italy, Australia Macau
 
Noticing something in the face of how severe this has spread everywhere, "world" leaders are just still either traveling all around the world and don't give much of a fuck about being infected by this Coronavirus, Trump going to india around probably thousand of attendees, the French president Macron going to large scale / populated agricultural / farmer events (even if Macron has just a lot of "actor studio" people chosen to attend his fake meetings with "electors" this is still a large scale agricultural / farmer event with a lot of people and a lot of animals there) and getting in the middle of thousands of people, the prime minister of cambodia just shaking hands with most probably a coronavirus infected woman leaving that cruise ship, and no news about him or anyone being infected after this.

Could it be a complete disregard for any danger, or should i get myself a tiny tinfoil hat, if i start to believe they think they are immune to any of this ? Why take any chance like that and parade in public as if nothing can happen ?
You're misreading the situation.

The world leaders are the ones spreading the virus through their continued travel and insistence on ignoring protocol to save a few minutes on the tarmac. You'll hear about it in the History Channel documentary someday.

*in/on whatever
 
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After some people posted articles from JPost I decided to have a look at the coronavirus tag, and looks like israel is about to get fucked
TLDR:

Jerusalem Post
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WORLD NEWS

Nine South Koreans who tested positive for coronavirus visited Israel
On Saturday, the total number of coronavirus cases in South Korea more than doubled to 433, Samsung closed down a factory after one employee had been confirmed to be infected.
By REUTERS
FEBRUARY 23, 2020 08:38

Email Twitter Facebook fb-messenger
Workers from a disinfection service company sanitize a street in front of a branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony where a woman known as Patient 31 attended a service in Daegu, South Korea, February 19, 2020 (photo credit: YONHAP VIA REUTERS)


Workers from a disinfection service company sanitize a street in front of a branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony where a woman known as "Patient 31" attended a service in Daegu, South Korea, February 19, 2020

(photo credit: YONHAP VIA REUTERS)

Israel's Ministry of Health confirmed that nine South Koreans who tested positive for coronavirus were in Israel February 8-15. The ministry is working on tracking their movements so they can isolate individuals who came in close contact with the group.



The Health Ministry released the group's schedule so citizens can check if they were in contact with the group. The group visited the city of Caesarea, Masada, Mount Olives, Mount Zion, the national park in Beersheba, as well as several churches and other places.

As a result of this incident, as well the the growing number of cases of the coronavirus in South Korea, the Administration of Border Crossings, Population and Immigration has barred entry to tourist coming from Seoul through Ben-Gurion Airport who are supposed to arrive tonight. Israelis who are on the flight will be asked t follow the directions of the ministry of health. This is not yet a comprehensive ban that would include all South Korean nationals.

Foreign Minister Israel Katz instructed the Foreign Ministry on Saturday to hold an urgent discussion on the possible significance and international implications that the Korean tourists who visited Israel that were found carrying the Wuhan coronavirus would have for the State of Israel, and to take necessary preventative actions around the world.

Minister Katz instructed the ministry's management to support any stringent directive that the Ministry of Health provided with regard to preventing the entry of passengers from various countries around the world that could pose a health risk to the Israeli population.


"The main consideration is the preservation of both the health of Israeli citizens and the ability of the State of Israel to continue and maintain good relations with countries around the world, as a country that adheres to strict rules and is not infected with the Corona virus."

The Health Ministry has ordered that anyone who was in direct contact with the group, which is defined as having been within 2 meters (6.56 feet) of them for at least 15 minutes quarantine themselves at home for 14 days since the date of contact.

The ministry also said that anyone who develops coronavirus symptoms, such as a fever of more than 38 degrees celsius (100 degrees fahrenheit) or coughing needs to be examined by a medical professional.

Those who were in the same place as the group at the same time, but were not in direct contact with them are not required to go into quarantine.
Coronavirus cases in South Korea more than doubled on Saturday to 433 and officials flagged the tally could rise significantly higher as more than 1,000 people who attended a church at the center of the outbreak reported flu-like symptoms.

Korea's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported 142 new cases at a morning briefing and another 87 in the afternoon. It had reported 204 cases on Friday.

Samsung Electronics on Saturday said one of the virus cases had been confirmed at its mobile device factory complex in Gumi, causing a shutdown of the facility there until Monday morning. Gumi is close to Daegu.

Samsung's factory in Gumi accounts for a small portion of its total smartphone production, as the world's top smartphone maker produces most of its products in Vietnam and India.
The death toll from the outbreak in mainland China, where it originated, rose to 2,345 as of Friday with over 76,000 people infected.

Also among the new cases were the first reported infections in Busan, South Korea's second-largest city, and on the Island of Jeju, a popular tourist destination.

KCDC designated both the city of Daegu, which has a population of 2.5 million people, and Cheongdo county, home to around 43,000 people, as "special care zones" on Friday. Officials were sending in military medical staff and other health workers, and extra resources, including hospital beds.

At least half of the national cases are linked to a 61-year-old woman known as "Patient 31" who attended religious services at a branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in Daegu, the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony. The woman had no recent record of overseas travel, authorities said.

KCDC said on Saturday they had obtained a list of 9,300 people who had attended church services, around 1,200 of whom had complained of flu-like symptoms.

"We are conducting investigation based on the database ... we have obtained," KCDC Director Jeong Eun-kyeong told reporters.

The church and Cheongdo hospital outbreaks may also be linked as several church members attended a funeral at the hospital for the brother of the founder of the church earlier this month. President Moon Jae-in has called for officials to investigate potential links.

Cases from the hospital surged from 18 to 111 overnight, with all but two of the new infections from the hospital's psychiatric unit.

"We think the patients had repeated exposure given the isolated facility of the psychiatric wards where many patients share the same room," KCDC Director Jeong Eun-kyeong told reporters.

The hospital, which has around 600 patients and staff, has been closed and patients are still being transferred to other facilities.

SEOUL RALLIES GO AHEAD

Two people have died in South Korea in the current outbreak; a woman in her fifties who was moved from to Busan for treatment and a 63-year-old man. Both were patients at the Cheongdo hospital.

Among the new cases confirmed on Saturday, two were in Busan, while one was on Jeju, a soldier stationed on the island who had come into contact with residents in the Daegu area. The government had previously banned all military personnel at a Daegu base from leaving the barracks.

In the capital of Seoul, thousands of people took to the streets on Saturday for regular weekend political rallies, despite the city's mayor on Friday saying the gatherings would be banned as part of containment measures.

Seoul police told Reuters they were aware of the ban but it would be an "abuse of power" for them to intervene. Police could only begin an investigation into the rallies if the city administration sued an individual or groups, an official said.

The coronavirus originated in China before spreading to some 26 countries and territories outside mainland China.

Jerusalem Post Staff contributed to this report.



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Bunch of carrier Koreans took a trip across the entire country.

Israel also considering quarantining 200 Korean tourists:

Destinations for which you have to quarantine if you came in from to Israel:
China, Hong Kong, Thailand, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, Italy, Australia Macau
looks like s.korea is gunna get a few holocaust museums donated to them in the near future as punishment
 
Apologies if this is massively late - I've been away from the keyboard since Thursday and find myself about 20 pages back...
My local NHS GP practice sent out helpful texts on Thursday and Friday. (20th & 21st Feb). No idea if this is a nationwide thing or just my GP or Health Trust being proactive.

What, do the cops come and ask if you're licensed to carry the coronavirus?

I think the CDC is in a mild state of panic right now. The fact that people can be infectious while not having symptoms and infectious after recovery has everyone a bit on edge.

At least Ebola had the decency to make carriers obvious as they slowly melted into blood.
 
Apologies if this is massively late - I've been away from the keyboard since Thursday and find myself about 20 pages back...
My local NHS GP practice sent out helpful texts on Thursday and Friday. (20th & 21st Feb). No idea if this is a nationwide thing or just my GP or Health Trust being proactive.
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I'll collect my late ratings when I get to the head of end of the thread thanks.
Man your GP surgery is slow on the uptake, myself and others all received texts like this, the week before last.
We did have the super spreader locally though...
 
Apologies if this is massively late - I've been away from the keyboard since Thursday and find myself about 20 pages back...
My local NHS GP practice sent out helpful texts on Thursday and Friday. (20th & 21st Feb). No idea if this is a nationwide thing or just my GP or Health Trust being proactive.
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I'll collect my late ratings when I get to the head of end of the thread thanks.
Man your GP surgery is slow on the uptake, myself and others all received texts like this, the week before last.
We did have the super spreader locally though...
i can't wait for trump to use the national emergency text system to send out the following mass shitpost in a month:

"My Fellow Awesome Americans, everything is great! All of you are great! We have the best people working on things and nobody needs to worry about the Totally Not Flu Virus! We have the best people and we will win against this! DON'T GO OUTSIDE OR BREATHE AIR! GOD BLESS YOU!"
 
Third death reported in northern Italy, a woman that was already hospitalized and in a "very compromised situation", even before contracting the virus. News outlets are reporting 150 confirmed cases.
Wonder when we're gonna hear reports of a major metropolitan area being hit. I give it a couple of weeks tops.
 
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I'm surprised Latin America has been mostly untouched by this. Metokur said something like anti-malaria drugs kill off the disease. I guess we all have to come to Brazil.

Its' not Malarya treatment.

"Sickle cell disease is more common in certain ethnic groups, including: People of African descent, including African-Americans (among whom 1 in 12 carries a sickle cell gene) Hispanic-Americans from Central and South America. People of Middle Eastern, Asian, Indian, and Mediterranean descent. "

Sickle cells are a mutation against malaria. It says Asians above, but a book from 2000 says it's very rare in China.

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Sickle cell anemia or trait is rarely encountered in Korea.
It has been estimated that the prevalence of sickle cell trait and sickle cell anemia in southern Iran is about 1.43 and 0.1 %, respectively

It's also prevalent in South Italy. The current cov cases happen in the North.

There must be something there.
 
That's rich, coming from the same organization who is still discouraging governments from halting flights to and from China. What about France, who let just two days ago a sick Chinese family land in Paris and move to Genoa by train, unchecked, or Germany, who doesn't test sick people with consistent symptoms, unless they (admit that they) came back recently from China?

Make no mistake, the cluster around Munchen, the one caused by the Chinese woman visiting, resulted in so few infected only because they limited the testing to those in direct contact with her and their families. No investigation has been carried out to retrace their movements or to ascertain whom they further came in contact with. The child of the first infected was allowed to attend kindergarten with both his parents already sick and before he himself tested positive!

Yesterday evening they announced the suspected patient zero in Lombardy has no anti-bodies. He never contracted the Wuflu. Yet, patient one is a friend with which he got multiple contacts around two weeks ago, and even his brother-in-law is positive.

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And the hotbed in Veneto is not related to this one, for sure. It means there have been, and still are, several patient zeros roaming unchecked, in Italy and Europe, and they'be been there for weeks, by now. As I said a couple of posts ago, you either suspend Schengen or the entire EU ceases contacts with China. Now I doubt a containment in Europe is possible anymoew. Were more countries to test as extensively as Italy is doing right now the numbers would skyrocket.
It's far too late to be closing borders, transmission is starting to pop up all over the place with no connection to china. The total inability for western nations to mount a meaningful response to this is just staggering to watch, Japan and their cruise ship experiment has been a complete catastrophe for everyone involved and this is just a few thousand people. 25% of their population is over 65 and would likely be hit hardest by a large scale outbreak and their government can't manage one ship.
Thailand somehow having less cases than Italy despite being the number one travel spot from Wuhan is a joke. There are probably already cases being exported from there all around the world going undetected.

The ability for public health services to contact trace everyone who might be affected is going to rapidly fall apart when you have people in Europe moving around from city to city interacting with hundreds if not thousands of people just going about their day. People are going to get infected in massive numbers before they decide to shut down a large number of pubic services and by then it's probably already too late. Maybe they get shut down before there's a steady stream of cases in most major cites but the response so far has been largely reactionary and a few days behind where they should be at the best of times.
 
Its' not Malarya treatment.

"Sickle cell disease is more common in certain ethnic groups, including: People of African descent, including African-Americans (among whom 1 in 12 carries a sickle cell gene) Hispanic-Americans from Central and South America. People of Middle Eastern, Asian, Indian, and Mediterranean descent. "

Sickle cells are a mutation against malaria. It says Asians above, but a book from 2000 says it's very rare in China.

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Sickle cell anemia or trait is rarely encountered in Korea.
It has been estimated that the prevalence of sickle cell trait and sickle cell anemia in southern Iran is about 1.43 and 0.1 %, respectively

It's also prevalent in South Italy. The current cov cases happen in the North.

There must be something there.
I mean, southern Italy is ridiculously underfunded and corrupt, so I hope to God they at least have weird-ass mutations to protect them from the virus...
 
The Diamond Princess is the gift that keeps on giving. Four more Brits newly diagnosed in quarantine, shipped off to infection centres in hospitals:


Four cruise ship passengers flown to Britain on Saturday have tested positive for coronavirus, bringing the total number of cases in the UK to 13.

They were among a group of 30 Britons and two Irish citizens beginning a 14-day quarantine at Arrowe Park Hospital in Wirral.

The four patients caught the virus on board the Diamond Princess in Japan, England's chief medical officer said.

They have now been transferred to specialist NHS infection centres.

It comes as 118 UK citizens and their family members rescued from Wuhan - the centre of the virus outbreak - ended their two-week isolation in Milton Keynes on Sunday.

The Department of Health said a "full infectious disease risk assessment" was done before Saturday's repatriation flight from Japan, adding that no-one who boarded the flight had displayed any symptoms of the virus.

Separately, four Britons from the ship who recently tested positive for the new coronavirus were not on the flight.

They included David and Sally Abel, from Northamptonshire, who have since been diagnosed with pneumonia, according to their family and are being treated in a Japanese hospital.

Arrowe Park was previously used to isolate 83 British nationals who were flown back to the UK from Wuhan on the Foreign Office's first evacuation flight in January.

Janelle Holmes, chief executive at Wirral University Teaching Hospital NHS Trust reassured staff that the hospital was "running as usual".

"When guests arrived yesterday evening, we followed clear guidance in relation to infection prevention control. This was to minimise the chance of any infection spreading."

The evacuees had already spent two weeks in quarantine on board the cruise ship, but since then 600 passengers and crew have tested positive for the new virus, raising fears that the incubation period for the virus may be longer than originally thought.

Italy imposes lockdown
The new strain of coronavirus, which originated last year in Hubei province in China, causes a respiratory disease called Covid-19.

China has seen more than 76,000 infections and 2,442 deaths. The virus has since spread to at least 11 other countries.

Over the weekend, Italian officials imposed strict quarantine restrictions in two northern "hotspot" regions close to Milan and Venice, as the number of coronavirus cases soared to 130 - the worst outbreak in Europe.

Venice Carnival has been cut short, schools and museums closed and sporting events suspended as authorities struggle to contain the spread of the virus.

About 50,000 people cannot enter or leave several towns in Veneto and Lombardy for the next two weeks without special permission. Three people have died.

Elsewhere, authorities in South Korea and Iran are battling to control rising numbers of infections. South Korea has raised its coronavirus alert to the "highest level".
 
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