Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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The Taliban has always had the exact same relationship with the poppy growers we've had, which is that you can't really do shit about them because if you do you'll have every goat fucker tribe up there sperging out.

Strap on an Svest and zerg rush a bunch of heavily armed dudes = totally safe practice.
Take a zippo to the fields supposedly funding the occupation = horrible risk.

Lol good to know.
Just to bring it back around to China, and quash all the opium spergery. Fentanyl, and carfentanil are structural analogs of opium. Totally synthetic. We have no need of the poppy anymore. China loves to send out its carfentanil to all us decadent Westerners, killing us by the thousands. That being said, I long ago stocked up on the Papaver somniferum seeds. They are such pretty flowers, and you never know when one of natures best analgesics will come in handy.
 
Just to bring it back around to China, and quash all the opium spergery. Fentanyl, and carfentanil are structural analogs of opium. Totally synthetic. We have no need of the poppy anymore. China loves to send out its carfentanil to all us decadent Westerners, killing us by the thousands. That being said, I long ago stocked up on the Papaver somniferum seeds. They are such pretty flowers, and you never know when one of natures best analgesics will come in handy.
They really are gorgeous, the red is vibrant and the blue is beautiful. Interspersed with whites they are amazing. I wish I had a place to grow some.
 
Well, if it's in Canada now, I guess I'll keep people posted on whether things go belly up in Ontario. It didn't seem like anyone was acting any differently in the past few weeks in regards to shopping habits, although there's apparently a different disruption that may affect food.

I really hope it hits the fake pipeline protesters and the fake refugees.
And then the politicians, but that's aiming kind of high.
 
Well, if it's in Canada now, I guess I'll keep people posted on whether things go belly up in Ontario. It didn't seem like anyone was acting any differently in the past few weeks in regards to shopping habits, although there's apparently a different disruption that may affect food.

I really hope it hits the fake pipeline protesters and the fake refugees.
And then the politicians, but that's aiming kind of high.
Trudeau gets sick and canada finally gets on the right path
 
Since we're into the last week of February, any bets on how far this will go into March?
All the way through. This is the very beginning. It’s no longer able to be quarantined, so we expect it to spread throughout the globe. My prediction would be something like:
-Further seeding of clusters through to mid april
-Serious spread through to mid June/July
-Warmer weather and school holidays in northern hemisphere will make it stutter a bit
- September the schools reopen and it gets going again, next winter will see the biggest peaks of infection.
- IF we are lucky a vaccine gets developed by the autumn or winter of 2020, BUT the amount of resource needed to make billions of doses will be significant. Dont expect a vaccine soon
-There’s also the possibility of mutation leading to emergence of a different strain which could kick off a second or third wave.
- long term SARs becomes another human endemic respiratory virus and we get echoes of this initial pandemic for the next decade or two followed by, like the flu, further strains novel enough to cause issues. By that time we have a solid vaccine platform and we go back to flu levels of excess deaths
A reminder that flu alone kills 30,00-45,000 people per year in the USA alone. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html
 
-Warmer weather and school holidays in northern hemisphere will make it stutter a bit
Is there a reason to assume WuFlu will settle down in the summer, other than the fact it's a conoravirus? I've seen so much literature suggesting it's able to exist longer than typical flu strains on surfaces and in the air, I wonder if that's a safe assumption.
 
Is there a reason to assume WuFlu will settle down in the summer, other than the fact it's a conoravirus? I've seen so much literature suggesting it's able to exist longer than typical flu strains on surfaces and in the air, I wonder if that's a safe assumption.
It's not, it's been in the 80's (F) in Singapore and its spreading just fine.
 
There’s no reason to obsessively test. It is the middle of flu season and an army of Karens are going to flood the EDs demanding little Khyler and Khodi get the Coronavirus test now now now. The CDC and its foreign counterparts are right to shrug.

The reason is dead simple: broadly testing for the disease before it enters the community will turn up mostly false positives. In fact, it would produce so many that it would be much more likely to be an error than a correct result. This will do nothing but harm patients, consume resources, and cause panic. This is the same reason your doctor won’t test you for a disease unless you have a troubling symptom.

The dimwits on reddit are seething that we aren’t giving out test kits to everybody with a cough. But for every one patient with Coronavirus in American EDs right now, there are literally thousands or even tens of thousands with the nasty strain of Influenzavirus A currently burning through our country. They will present with exactly the same symptoms. The solution is exactly what the CDC is doing: contact tracing, quarantines, and hoping for warm humid weather before it catches on.
 
China says has allocated $14.16 bln for curbing coronavirus outbreak
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BEIJING, Feb 24 (Reuters)
China has allocated 99.5 billion yuan ($14.16 billion) in funds for curbing the coronavirus outbreak that has spread throughout the country, Assistant Finance Minister Ou Wenhan said on Monday.

Ou made the remarks during a press briefing in Beijing. ($1 = 7.0255 Chinese yuan renminbi)
 
Alright, bit of an observation from my perspective. I live in a small town, not really rural but those areas are very close by. On my trips into the larger city nearby I've been keeping an eye on certain items. Mostly knick knacks in gas stations, the larger stores, etc. really anything cheaply made as it is more likely than not made in China. These items are not being restocked, and are in low quantity or simply out of stock. Local electronic shop hasn't gotten components in, and no new cellphones either. I know the guy who runs it and he says shipments he ordered back in January never came.

I'd like to believe that things won't get very bad over here, but as I've said before most issues we will see will be from people panicking and making things worse. All my neighbors and I are reorganing our pantries, and cellers. Think I'll get the water and propane tanks re-filled early. Might avoid a lot of hassle later. I'd rather not drag main while this virus is making the rounds.
 
I'd make a comment about how these people are insects who don't care about anything or anyone but goddamn some stupid broad and her husband here in the US lied to get off that cruise ship. That cunt should spend the rest of her convalescence in a prison. Her husband, too. And anyone poised to go, well what do you charge them with?! How about reckless endangerment?
That's one thing i was fearing too.

Hear me out on this one, but most of you probably already realized this... As anything else, i hope i'm fucking dead wrong about this but the mortality rate will be incredibly higher than what reported...

Dr campbell said it best in his videos tho, but when you connect the dots of the rapidity of the spread and the severe cases numbers coming out of countries outside of china, we still need to wait to take in account the "lag" of infection and development of symptoms in healthier layers of the population (aka, younger people probably have a longer "incubation-time" for the virus to have the time to hit the immune system and gradually degrade it, to the point of , 14 to 20 days later, start to show as symptoms)

When 14 to 20 days from here multiple thousand of cases appears everywhere, NO HOSPITALS, none, even in our first world countries, has anywhere near enough supplies, oxygen, anything to treat such large amount of people, hence why China has asked everyone to barricade themselves at home, and probably welded doors shut, and burned whole buildings in many areas.

The reality of this is, when it's going global even at 1 / 3 of the china numbers each in most countries, the medical chain will be overburdened and probably get sick, fall to the virus too because you can take all the precautions you want man, but hospitals aren't P2 or P3 /P4 biolabs equiped with full desinfection for that kind of shit, the usual precaution / fertilization measures used , even in nice and wealthy hospitals is nowhere near enough to not get, at one point or another, be it from stress, fatigue, taking too much turns, the virus gonna slip in a medic or two from too much exposure to patients.

The medical chain will eventually break down, and it's thousands of people that just, even with the sole bottleneck of a FULL speed running medical care in any hospital, you cannot treat more than maybe a thousand to 2 thousand patients at one time, and this number is pretty grossly high for any medical infrastructure without expecting the "normal" rate of human failure too.

I'm afraid to be the "prophet of doom" here, but In the mid to long term this just means millions of people will just not receive ANY sort of treatment and if they have mild symptoms they are just going untreated and the mortality rate will just be much higher and serious than what we think about.
 
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Not just the pasta. In local supermarkets there's no more meat, fish, cans of food. Pure alcohol, disinfectants, bleach and stuff like that are out of stock. The prices for masks and hand sanitisers are (apparently) through the roof. Bars and pubs have to close at 6PM starting tomorrow. Pharmacies are supposed to get new stocks of masks and sanitisers tomorrow. I can't find it now but I saw on the news that in one of the towns near Milan a supermarket only let people with masks in (maybe some other Italian fags can help out), I think they had local police help them with it, too.

If I have to look at the bright side, at least it happened in the northern regions where the national health service generally works. When it spreads to the southern regions I'm pretty sure we'll be completely fucked. Viva l'Italia!
I found the sources of the shit I'm talking about. They're all in Italian so if you're really interested in reading these articles, use deepl.com.

- Supermarkets running out of food, water and hand sanitisers: Coronavirus, nei supermercati code alle casse e scaffali di acqua e gel vuoti. A Sesto la Coop fa entrare solo chi ha la mascherina. (Archive) People in Milan and Lombardy are storming through supermarkets to buy water, fruit, veggies, meat, fish, hand sanitisers, disposable gloves. There are pictures of empty shelves in this article.

- Prices of masks and hand sanitisers trough the roof: Coronavirus, online mascherine a 40 euro e prezzi stellari per l'Amuchina. Consumatori: "Speculazione vergognosa". (Archive) On Amazon 5 masks are going for about 190€, Amuchina (the most common hand sanitiser) are being sold for 30€ when it usually costs around 4€.

- Supermarket allows access only to people wearing masks (video): Coronavirus, con le mascherine in fila davanti al supermercato di Casalpusterlengo. In this video you can see people waiting in line for a supermarket in Casalpusterlengo (one of the main towns that it's being quarantined) to open. Almost all of them are wearing masks. The carabiniere in front of the supermarket tells people to have patience, the supermarket will open but they don't know when precisely because they have to work out how to manage the flow of people. I love this video because you can clearly see that Italians have no fucking clue on how to queue like normal human beings.
 
All the way through. This is the very beginning. It’s no longer able to be quarantined, so we expect it to spread throughout the globe. My prediction would be something like:
-Further seeding of clusters through to mid april
-Serious spread through to mid June/July
-Warmer weather and school holidays in northern hemisphere will make it stutter a bit
- September the schools reopen and it gets going again, next winter will see the biggest peaks of infection.
- IF we are lucky a vaccine gets developed by the autumn or winter of 2020, BUT the amount of resource needed to make billions of doses will be significant. Dont expect a vaccine soon
-There’s also the possibility of mutation leading to emergence of a different strain which could kick off a second or third wave.
- long term SARs becomes another human endemic respiratory virus and we get echoes of this initial pandemic for the next decade or two followed by, like the flu, further strains novel enough to cause issues. By that time we have a solid vaccine platform and we go back to flu levels of excess deaths
A reminder that flu alone kills 30,00-45,000 people per year in the USA alone. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

Again. My advice to the many is too:
1. Not Panic. Because of all of our work we can trace how the virus is spreading as well as filtering out the truth.
2. GO DO your flu reduction routine!!! This means change of clothing after going out to get things. AVOID LARGE GROUPS. Wash your hands many times a day especially after you go come back from your outing.
3. Disinfect your home the usual way PLUS wiping down your door knobs your tv remotes, your toilet lysol your shoes and use another pair for indoors. Wear comfortable clothing for your environment.
If you are worried about food SLOWLY stock up on it now.. DO NOT panic buy because more often than not you will get too much of one thing and not enough on another.
4. EAT HEALTHY AS POSSIBLE. Vitamins are you friend despite the recent bullshit targeting vitamin usage. You need a little to go a long away.

The Basic Disinfectant I use are the following: Bleach. Alcohol. Ammonia. Nothing Fancy. REGULAR BAR OF SOAP .

Now knocking on wood and I'll say the reasons why I'm posting this. My wife broke her hip and has had a terrible time of it. She was then sent to a care home for therapy and the caught flu and then the pneumonia even though she had her yearly vaccine. This happened on the 7 day at the care home and I pulled her out of that place as soon as I found out of her situation and placed her right back into the hospital. She is recovering right now and hopefully will be back home soon.

But I have been literally exposed to several bad places, in a consistant manner for several weeks in places were germs are able to spread rampantly. I have taken all of those precautions as posted previously. And so far so good.

I am no prepper nor a Doomer. I'm a realist with some common sense that unfortunately of late, as you can see by several assholes in several countries being certified dicks.

They are making it hard for everyone else.

ADDED: Tamaflu helps if you got the flu. As for myself I've got my ghetto hot tottie as I bought the Best $9.99 plastic bottle of 80% proof Vodka you can find. Also it can work as mild disenfectant as well due to the enough alcohol content in there.
 
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Trudeau gets sick and canada finally gets on the right path
He's the embodiment of a "sodomite" and i'm not talking only about taking it up the ass physically, every stupid people trying for internet asspats and gobbling up anything "officials" says , especially from the left side, are just profound intellectual sodomites and boot lickers, just look how these fools would stand in front of a full speed train running on plutonium bars and a tsar bomb in every wagon just to get their leftist friends to caress their ass and China senpai to notice them.

I'm optimistic tho, if they truely are not only physical but philosophical, spiritual and intellectual sodomites to this extent, i'm almost ready to believe that some of these people have just destroyed their human ability to have any sort of inner reasonable and rational monologue, even if that sound completely impossible, there's theory about some people that cannot even think for themselves or hear their inner voice, even if it's HARD to believe, at this point i'm ready to believe it. But ok ! GOOD then. Let them just die first and get in Chinese and Koreans arms.

We always are the horrible persons for trying to warn these piece of shit to take care for THEMSELVES, i mean, it truely comes from a good place in our minds actually, they always pretend we are fucking nazis or some shit, when it just truely comes from a good heart and good intentions but it's everything else in their views, and that's the hilarious part of this. I would feel pity in normal circumstances but if they die from their stupidity they owned it. Less idiots on this planet after all.
 
Is there a reason to assume WuFlu will settle down in the summer, other than the fact it's a conoravirus? I've seen so much literature suggesting it's able to exist longer than typical flu strains on surfaces and in the air, I wonder if that's a safe assumption.
It’s more due to human behaviour than viral. People spend more time outdoors and less time huddled together indoors, the schools are on holiday, people air houses more, more sunlight etc. Respiratory viruses often (not always) slow a little in our summer.
The dimwits on reddit are seething that we aren’t giving out test kits to everybody with a cough.
of course they shouldnt be handing out test kits to everyone. They should, however, be testing sentinel samples from various centres like they do for seasonal flu strains. Because we do need to know of this thing is already circulating or not. If not, then decent quarantine has a chance of at least delaying the entry and spread into an area. If it’s already entrenched, then that is also useful information because it informs treatment providers that any respiratory case with x symptoms may be a case and should be notified/treated accordingly. It also dramatically changes the public health measures needed and could inform the stats on death rate etc which we still, quite frankly, don’t know much about. We know what the rates are in those diagnosed and hospitalised bit we have no idea about what level of disease is in the community.
 
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