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Does anyone have advice on how to cheaply prep 2 weeks of food?
Depends on what cheap means.

You can stock up on Sardines, Ramen, Tuna, etc for like $0.11 per serving. That will get you through a couple weeks for under $100. Also get the 5 gal water bottles, just make a wall of them for whatever may come. You could need to boil your own water, those jugs can be used to capture condensation.

I bought 2,000 high-end MREs at the start of this for $4 per serving. This covers the people I care about for a month.

What you really want to stock up on is guns. Food is no good if your neighbors can steal it. Figure out what the gun laws are in your area and buy whatever has the shortest waiting period along with as much ammo as possible. I'm not a gun guy, but I understand Chinese-made AKs are very popular right now. There's a secondary market of people buying metal plates for rifle butts and bayonet holders that fit them popping up in various places.

The US Army published a Survival Guide in the 1940s which is excellent. Find a paper copy and tuck it away just in case you lose Internets. Covers survival food and capturing fresh water, which are necessary if you need to rough it. You should probably make sure you have a tent and a sleeping bag while you're at it.
 
Yes it does, seeing as how they're at the world's mercy and need every little handout they can get at the moment.
China owns more than $1 trillion in US sovereign debt, and you're telling me that they need a couple billion dollars as a gift? Do you think about this stuff before typing it out?
 
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Because you can never pour enough gasoline onto the trash fire that is the Middle East.
 
China owns more than $1 trillion in US sovereign debt, and you're telling me that they need a couple billion dollars as a gift? Do you think about this stuff before typing it out?
Don't attack people for not understanding Chinese finance.

It's all a fiction anyway, the relevance of any specific detail is up to the authors.
 
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Because you can never pour enough gasoline onto the trash fire that is the Middle East.
Iraq is fucked, Iran is fucked. We don't know how it's going to play out except that people will suffer.

But Africa has Minsters of Health in every country who are corrupt as fuck. They will send the infected to live with specific tribes just to make them sick. We are going to see germ warfare break out all over the continent which will probably culminate in war over natural resources.

As much as I hate to say it, Ethiopia will probably be hit the hardest. They have a booming economy and a pitiful public health infrastructure. The average citizen is skeptical of modern medicine, NGOs funded by pharma companies have been using them as live test subjects for decades. There's as much chance of them murdering doctors as there is of anyone receiving treatment. People who have been infected could get the Darfur treatment.

Boko Haram, FWIW, has been signaling this is judgement from God and that their time is now. While that could be taken a lot of different ways, I think it means we are going to see more slave raids and active promotion of the virus.
 
I read about him in Red China Blues. Apparently he thought people in America respected Mao more than George Washington.

I'd have thought that high-ranking officials, especially one who's a direct descendant of Mao, would be exempt from the BS they feed the proles. Apparently not. LOL.

HEALTH NEWS
FEBRUARY 23, 2020 / 8:50 PM / UPDATED AN HOUR AGO
Coronavirus cases spread outside China, fall inside, winning WHO's praises

Gabriel Crossley, Hyonhee Shin
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BEIJING/SEOUL (Reuters) - Italy, South Korea and Iran reported sharp rises in coronavirus infections on Monday, but China relaxed curbs on movement as the rate of new infections there eased and a visiting World Health Organization team reported steep declines in visits to clinics.

The virus has put Chinese cities into lockdown in recent weeks, disrupted air traffic to the workshop of the world and blocked global supply chains for everything from cars and car parts to smartphones.
But China’s actions, especially in the city of Wuhan, the center of the outbreak, had probably prevented hundreds of thousands of cases, the head of the WHO delegation in China, Bruce Aylward, said, urging the rest of the world to learn the lesson of acting fast.
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“The world is in your debt,” Aylward said in Beijing, addressing the people of Wuhan. “The people of that city have gone through an extraordinary period and they’re still going through it.”
The surge of cases outside mainland China triggered sharp falls in global share markets and Wall Street stock futures as investors fled to safe havens. European share markets suffered their biggest slump since mid-2016, gold soared to a seven-year high, oil tumbled nearly 4% and the Korean won KRW= fell to its lowest level since August.[MKTS/GLOB]
But U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin cautioned against jumping to conclusions about the impact on the global economy or supply chains, saying it was simply too soon to know. Live blog: Online site for coronavirus news - here Graphic: Tracking the novel coronavirus - here Reuters graphics on the new coronavirus - here

The WHO’s Aylward said multiple data sources backed the trend of declining cases but an official with China’s National Health Commission, Liang Wannian, said more than 3,000 medical staff had become infected, most of them in Hubei, and likely due to the lack of protective gear and fatigue.
Excluding Hubei, mainland China reported 11 new cases, the lowest since the national health authority started publishing nationwide daily figures on Jan. 20.
The coronavirus has infected nearly 77,000 people and killed more than 2,500 in China, most in Hubei.
Overall, China reported 409 new cases on the mainland, down from 648 a day earlier, taking the total number of infections to 77,150 cases as of Feb. 23. The death toll rose by 150 to 2,592.

People wearing face masks walk along a street, as the country is hit by an outbreak of the new coronavirus, in Beijing, China February 24, 2020. REUTERS/Carlos Garcia Rawlins
But there was a measure of relief for the world’s second-largest economy as more than 20 province-level jurisdictions, including Beijing and Shanghai, reported zero new infections, the best showing since the outbreak began.
Outside mainland China, the outbreak has spread to about 29 countries and territories, with a death toll of about two dozen, according to a Reuters tally.
South Korea reported 231 new cases, taking its total to 833. Many are in its fourth-largest city, Daegu, which became more isolated with Asiana Airlines (020560.KS) and Korean Air (003490.KS) suspending flights there until next month.
Iran, which announced its first two cases last Wednesday, said it now had 61 cases and 12 deaths. Most of the infections were in the Shi’ite Muslim holy city of Qom.

Elsewhere in the Middle East, Bahrain and Iraq reported their first cases and Kuwait reported three cases involving people who had been in Iran.
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan and Afghanistan imposed restrictions on travel and immigration from Iran. Afghanistan also reported its first case, officials said.
Europe’s biggest outbreak is in Italy, with some 150 infections - compared with just three before Friday - and a sixth death.

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In northern Italy, authorities sealed off the worst-affected towns and banned public gatherings across a wide area, halting the carnival in Venice, where there were two cases.
Austria briefly suspended train services over the Alps from Italy after two travelers coming from Italy showed symptoms of fever.
Both tested negative for the new coronavirus but Austrian Interior Minister Karl Nehammer said a task force would meet on Monday to discuss whether to introduce border controls. (Interactive graphic tracking global spread of coronavirus tmsnrt.rs/3aIRuz7. Open in an external browser.)
President Xi Jinping urged businesses to get back to work, though he said the epidemic was still “severe and complex, and prevention and control work is in the most difficult and critical stage”.

Xi said on Sunday the outbreak would have a relatively big, but short-term, impact on the economy and the government would step up policy adjustments to help cushion the blow.
Mnuchin, speaking to Reuters in the Saudi city of Riyadh, said he did not expect the coronavirus to have a material impact on the Phase 1 U.S.-China trade deal.
“Obviously that could change as the situation develops,” he added.
Japan had 773 cases as of late Sunday, mostly on a cruise ship quarantined near Tokyo. A third passenger, a Japanese man in his 80s, died on Sunday.
In South Korea, authorities reported a seventh death and dozens more cases on Monday. Of the new cases, 115 were linked to a church in the city of Daegu.
Drone footage showed what appeared to be hundreds of people queuing in a neat line outside a Daegu supermarket to buy face masks. ( tmsnrt.rs/37WP6lA )
Reporting by Gabreil Crossley and Ryan Woo in Beijing and Hyonhee Shin in Seoul; Additional reporting by Judy Hua, Huizhong Wu, Yawen Chen, Lusha Zhang and David Kirton in Beijing, Engen Tham in Shangai, Joyce Lee and Cynthia Kim in Seoul, Tom Westbrook in Singapore, Kate Kelland in London, Simon Johnson in Stockholm, Andrea Shalal in Riyadh; Writing by Robert Birsel and Nick Macfie; Editing by Lincoln Feast, Simon Cameron-Moore and Kevin Liffey
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Here are some tweets from that press conference. Source 1, Source 2.

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I read this as Xi being desperate to doctor numbers to get countries to open their borders to Chinese again. For their economy and show of control for his people, for one, and maybe some perverse desire to see other nations suffer like China did, which I wouldn't put past him. Someone so arrogant enough to name himself as a country's eternal president definitely is keen to make other people suffer when he gets egg on his face. And boy did he get a lot of egg these past weeks.
 
Iraq is fucked, Iran is fucked. We don't know how it's going to play out

One hypothetical scenario popped into my head the other day and I've been thinking about it on and off again: How would this affect the Hajj? It's five months from now, but let's suppose this outbreak hasn't petered out by the time the pilgrimage rolls around.

You got millions of folks from countries with varying levels of questionable hygiene all packed together like canned sardines in a singular location. A perfect vector for a virus like this.

Saudi Arabia may have shut off travel to and from Iran, but what will they do about the rest of the Islamic world? Just a little food for thought.
 
so China has cancelled one of their biggest yearly political propaganda event. strange thing to do if they only got 18 new cases and the virus supposedly plateaued there.
If anyone actually believes china is telling the truth is just an idiot. In Singapore the estimated stats they have are much higher than what they're officially saying.
 
One hypothetical scenario popped into my head the other day and I've been thinking about it on and off again: How would this affect the Hajj? It's five months from now, but let's suppose this outbreak hasn't petered out by the time the pilgrimage rolls around.

You got millions of folks from countries with varying levels of questionable hygiene all packed together like canned sardines in a singular location. A perfect vector for a virus like this.

Saudi Arabia may have shut off travel to and from Iran, but what will they do about the rest of the Islamic world? Just a little food for thought.
it's going to be a true test of faith. "are you willing to risk your life to show your devotion for allah?", honestly kinda curious to see how devoted the middle east truly is.
 
One hypothetical scenario popped into my head the other day and I've been thinking about it on and off again: How would this affect the Hajj? It's five months from now, but let's suppose this outbreak hasn't petered out by the time the pilgrimage rolls around.

You got millions of folks from countries with varying levels of questionable hygiene all packed together like canned sardines in a singular location. A perfect vector for a virus like this.

Saudi Arabia may have shut off travel to and from Iran, but what will they do about the rest of the Islamic world? Just a little food for thought.
The hajj is already notorious as a serious sniffle breeding ground. They've had plagues break out before.

Fuck, I'm supposed to be in Dallas for a wedding in 3 weeks. I still want to go but this sudden ramping up is giving me jitters.
 
it's going to be a true test of faith. "are you willing to risk your life to show your devotion for allah?", honestly kinda curious to see how devoted the middle east truly is.
I think they need more than faith to get through this plague.
Yes, except in this instance, there's no promise of 72 virgins.
According to my Muslim friend you still get At least 1 celestial maiden.
 
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