Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[thx1138]

Communist Cough, 2020 Yellow Fever, Asian ARDS...

They missed the opportunity to give it a killer name, I agree.
Such wasted potential....

If you're a Stephen King fan, how about "A6"?

 

[Iuz]

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Communist Cough, 2020 Yellow Fever, Asian ARDS...

They missed the opportunity to give it a killer name, I agree.
Such wasted potential....

Cixi's Revenge.

Edit: Black Russians.

 

[Fagnacious D]

Crimson Influenza/Crimson Flu, The People's Pneumonia, SARS-2: Systemic Boogaloo, Wuhan Cough, Chiropterosis (essentially "bat disease"), etc.

I wish the WHO didn't fuck the name up so bad. COVID-19 is such a lame name, It's literally means "coronavirus infectious disease". Lame. Pronouncing "nCoV" phonetically would've been better, then at least it would be "encov" and sound like an actual disease instead of some certification test.

Chinese Biological Weapon #1532
The Lung Melter
Undetectable Chinese Ninja Virus

 

[Hecate]

im a few pages behind so im sorry if this is late but reuters changed what this article was about, and even removed the fact thats its been updated

Virus can still be beaten, too early to declare pandemic: WHO

The coronavirus outbreak can still be beaten, the World Health Organization said on Monday, insisting it was premature to declare it a pandemic even though it had the potential to reach that level.

uk.reuters.com

WHO says it no longer uses 'pandemic' category, but virus still emerg…

archived 24 Feb 2020 12:58:53 UTC

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remember folks, archive always!

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I have a samurai sword. Which won't do shit but at least I'll go out doing some Samurai Jack shit. Aka flailing a dull blade around like an idiot NEET but hey, it's at least something.

Too obvious. Grab a spring-assisted knife off of Amazon and aim for the common carotid. This is how we take stuff from preppers.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

I think, after watching the governments fuck up, the AF fuck up, and the fact that so many people seem to think it's OK to skip quarantine and spread it around, it is finally safe to say.

Corona-Chan has left the strip joint, but on her twerkin' shorts, and has headed to the club.

It's gonna get worse before it gets better. The question is: How much worse.

Remember: Smile at yourself in the mirror, exercise, eat well, get sleep, and stay hydrated.

 

[robobobo]

my general survival skills are lacking but guns are something I do know and have put a lot of thought into. autism incoming but there's probably not going to be one perfect gun to ride out the apocalypse so it's all about what you're willing to spend, what your personal circumstances dictate you'll be doing should the world end, the laws in your area that dictate what you can currently buy, and what performance characteristics you're willing to compromise on. Also before you pick up a gun, I'd suggest trying to get some training from someone since they do have a learning curve and you need to be instilled with proper safe handling.

Pistols are the easiest guns to keep on your person at all time, which is great because the biggest most badass gun ever made can't help you if it's not within easy reach. There's lots of choices out there for semiauto pistols that should go for thousands if not tens of thousands of rounds with no more maintenance than occasional cleaning, and maybe an easily-replaceable part like a new mainspring or extractor along the way. (Beretta, CZ, Glock, SIG, Walther, HK, S&W, etc- most will shoot well and run fine so it kinda comes down to personal preference. Maybe rent some guns at a local range?) Be sure to pick a common caliber, no hipster shit that would be hard to obtain like .357 SIG or 10mm! 9mm Luger is the most popular centerfire handgun caliber and for good reason- it's the cheapest, it strikes a good balance between decent power and manageable recoil, and it also allows high capacity in a reasonably-sized gun. Budget for accessories as well- grab a bunch of mags, a bunch of ammo, some spare parts like I mentioned earlier, and I'd make sure my gun has a rail so I can slap a weaponlight on it. For a fullsize pistol the Streamlight TLR-1 and Olight PL-2 Valkyrie are two affordable CR123 lights I've had good experiences with, and can be found in the $100 range. Stock up on batteries and see if you can find a holster that will fit your chosen pistol with the chosen light mounted, if not there are shops that can make custom holsters for your specific setup. I for real cannot stress how much you want a good holster. Features like fiber optic or tritium sights will help you get a sight picture in low light, if you decide against the added size/cost of the weaponlight or just want to be sneaky. The downside of pistols are that the terminal effects on bad guys are less impressive than the following choices, and they're also the hardest to shoot accurately since you don't have the support of a shoulder stock.

A shotgun can be a good choice for home defense, but I'd rather have a semiauto pistol or rifle. Still shotguns are affordable, they usually don't require the added cost of mags, they're usually extremely durable and reliable, and 12ga ammo is pretty common. 20ga is less common, but not exactly rare either. Birdshot can be nasty at point blank range but is only good for killing birds at any sort of distance, so buckshot or slugs are what you want (for close-medium or medium-long range shots respectively.) I'd stick with a tubefed pump action like a Mossberg 590A1 or an older Remington 870, probably an 18-20" barrel, since those will last forever and parts availability is great. Get a good sling, get a weaponlight and some way to attach it to the gun, and search around to figure out what might break on whatever gun you have and order spares. Downsides are low capacity, long reload times, fairly high recoil, pump-actions can suffer from malfunctions if you don't work them with authority, and it's not as easy to carry around all day compared to a much smaller pistol.

My preference for home defense is actually an intermediate or pistol-caliber carbine, like a shorter 5.56 AR-15 or a CZ Scorpion EVO with a shoulder brace. The AR-15 will be loud as hell indoors, but is otherwise mild to shoot and a very effective round between 0-250 yards. (That range isn't needed for home defense in urban areas, but it's nice if you're out in the sticks and trying to keep a perimeter on property with clear lines of sight.) Expanding or frangible 5.56/.223 ammo is common and affordable, so are accessories and spare parts. You can build an AR from scratch with fairly minimal hand tools, so with the right tools repairing them yourself is entirely possible. Decent ARs are all over the place and they aren't that expensive, just look for one with a 5.56 or .223 Wylde chamber matched to a C158 bolt and 4150 CMV barrel. Get a spare bolt and small parts kit, they're readily available. A good red dot or 1-4x scope like an MTAC work great on those guns, depending on how far you think you'll be shooting. Pmags are good, Lancer L5AWMs are prooobably better overall? Alternatively some pistol caliber carbines like the Ruger PC or some AR-9 models will take mags from pistols, which means you could get a rifle/pistol combo that draws from the same pool of magazines and ammo. Carry the pistol just in case, and grab the rifle if shit goes down. Most pistol ammo will get a velocity boost from the rifle barrel, and it'll be easier to land hits with. Again not as portable as a pistol but both choices are compact, accurate, have low recoil, and will stop an aggressor.

Get some good safety glasses and electronic earpro too. If you really wanna go ham with this end-of-the-world shit there's affordable body armor that can stop rifle-caliber rounds from companies like AR500 armor, because it's nice to be able to be shot at and at least have some of your most important bits be covered

Dear god. Okay, first off, don't buy a fucking rifle for home defense. We're trying to avoid over-penetration here, not emphasize it. Don't get a huge-ass shotgun slug either, same deal. Yeah, you can Dirty Harry a fist-sized hole in someone, but that fist-sized hole will continue through your dog, the wall behind your dog, your neighbor's window, and your neighbor's kid. If you absolutely must have a shotgun for trying to shoot a person from fifteen feet away inside your house, go with birdshot or a less-lethal rubber load. Don't let the name fool you, "less-lethal" is still going to shatter somebody's ribcage at point blank range, cops manage to kill people with that ammo on a pretty regular basis. But at least it won't blow through three rooms of your house when you pull the trigger.

Also, the sound and recoil on a shotgun must be experienced to be believed, it is brutal. A couple shots is often enough to leave a welt on my shoulder in the pattern of the fabric of my shirt, a newbie pulling the trigger for the first time on one is liable to freak out and drop the thing. Or if they're super hilarious and bought a pistol-grip shotgun thinking they're gonna be like the terminator, they're definitely dropping it after it recoils straight into their face and breaks their nose when they held it wrong.

As far as pistols go, avoid automatics, stick to a revolver. When someone's freaking out, they tend to fuck themselves over with automatics, either by fumbling the slide or the safety, or by pulling the trigger and shooting themselves when they're trying to draw the gun if they had it chambered. A revolver has no complexity, you pull the bang switch, it goes bang. It also has an integral safety feature in a heavy-ass trigger that's a whole lot harder to pull accidentally. It's far harder for a panicking person to fuck up using a revolver. And same deal with revolvers as with other guns, don't got apeshit with huge calibers and overpressure rounds, we want to avoid collateral damage. Frangible or hollow-point rounds, ideally you don't want the bullet coming out the other side of your target, or if it does you don't want it coming out in a state where it can injure a person behind them.

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

Got receipts for this?

There was a post on that lucky clover website in the end of January by an alleged insider alleging details about virus, the post also claimed preplanned tryout in Italy to test Western containment strategies, well ahead actual outbreak. Might have been a LARP, so take it with a grain of salt. Do not have it saved nor have an archive link, but it gets reposted from time to time in /cvg/ thread.

 

[pwnest injun]

Thinking of window shopping for firearms this weekend. I've always kept a shotgun in my closet, but I only ever use it for hunting pheasant/water fowl (20 or 28 gauge iirc), so I may something that packs more of a wallop and isn't limited to two shots. Any /k/iwis got suggestions for what I should look for?

Mossberg 590M 12 gauge. It has an internal magazine, but can also take removable box magazines. Get 4-5 10 round mags.

To all the people acting like guns are hard to learn, no. They're not. You can learn how to run any modern weapon system in an afternoon. Here's the first and most important lesson, don't put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot. Other than that, don't point it at stuff you don't intend to shoot, and watch some youtube videos or something. If an inner city teen can do it, so can you.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

I don't think any of us have brought up stockpiling other things than food, water, weapons and masks. Toothpaste, floss, laundry detergent, dishsoap, bodywash, lotion, lighters, candles, plastic bags, etc should all be taken into consideration.

For those of you who don't think you'll ever be in a quarantine situation and that we're all crazy doomers in this thread, please consider the following...
What does your food and whatnot come in? Plastic. Plastic mostly formed into bags, bottles, boxes and other containers over in China. America can very easily produce its own food, but you can bet your ass that the supply to the consumer will falter without the usual supply of packaging. Buy shelf-stable products that you would normally use and enjoy, and you won't have to worry about having wasted your time or money should the best case scenario play out. If you guys turn out to be right, as we hope you do, you'll just have several things that you don't need to worry about adding to your shopping list for a long time.

Say it after me;
"It's always better to be safe than sorry"

 

[TwinkLover6969]

Thinking of window shopping for firearms this weekend. I've always kept a shotgun in my closet, but I only ever use it for hunting pheasant/water fowl (20 or 28 gauge iirc), so I may something that packs more of a wallop and isn't limited to two shots. Any /k/iwis got suggestions for what I should look for?

You need a Assault-Rifle 15 to really mow down the zombies infectious hordes

 

[XYZpdq]

lol seriously though if you haven't already owned a gun don't fucking get one now you'll shoot your foot off

 

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Just going to leave this here

 

[robobobo]

lol seriously though if you haven't already owned a gun don't fucking get one now you'll shoot your foot off

Yeah. Even experienced gun owners can completely fall apart in an actual dangerous situation, I heard a cop story once where the department's star marksman got in a gunfight and hit nothing because he freaked out and just stuck the gun over his car door and pulled the trigger while waving it in the general direction of the criminal. Easy things become hard when you're jacked up on adrenaline and your whole body's shaking, it's all the worse if you're trying to do something you aren't familiar with.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

On the topic of general preparedness, learn how to bake bread yeasterday (pun intended). Flour is cheap and plentiful, and as other have said, the water mains will probably last the longest in a collapse scenario (most of us won't have to worry about that doomer shit for the foreseeable future).
The things you'll need to make half decent bread - aside from water and flour - are yeast starter, a sugar source, and salt. Sugar and salt are, like flour, readily available in bulk amounts. What isn't is starter.
There are three methods I've used to make yeast starter.

1. Simplest - Buy a packet of instant yeast or jar of Fleischmann's yeast and add some to a 1:1 ratio mixture of water and flour. Best results are to activate the yeast by letting it "bloom" in a warm, carb rich environment (~100°F water + some starch or sugar) before adding it to the flour-water mixture.
2. Finicky but straightforward - Go to the local crunchy hippie co-op and buy organic red wheat, pumpernickel, and/or rye flour. The coarser and less processed, the better. The yeast you'll be cultivating for bread is on the germ of your chosen grain. Mix a 1:1 or 1.5:1 flour-water mixture and wait several days until activity is visible and the mixture gives off a pleasant fermentation aroma. If it smells like death or mold then you've fucked up.
3. You forgot to get any yeast tier - Mix your flour and water into a paste, let it stand for several days covered by a cheesecloth only. You're capturing the environmental yeast for bread making. It's a bit of a crapshoot, so multiple batches are okay. Looks for bubbling activity with pleasant aroma. If you see mycelium of any sort throw it out.

The 1st method will work 100% of the time unless you somehow fuck it up. If your tap water smells like a swimming pool it will inhibit your precious little yeasties. Letting it sit will let the chloride offgas and make the water yeast friendly. It will be somewhat bland to start, developing a unique flavor as you feed and use your starter.
Method 2 is better for flavor initially but forces you to interact with hippies in some capacity; your mileage may vary.
Method 3 is only to be done for experimentation's sake or as last resort. The youtube channel Townsends did an episode on "Bacteria Bread" which is essentially this method.

Most important to remember is that your yeast starter is a pet that you can periodically eat. Feed it regularly and treat it to periods of warm storage after feedings to ensure proper growth.

Happy baking!

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Yeah. Even experienced gun owners can completely fall apart in an actual dangerous situation, I heard a cop story once where the department's star marksman got in a gunfight and hit nothing because he freaked out and just stuck the gun over his car door and pulled the trigger while waving it in the general direction of the criminal. Easy things become hard when you're jacked up on adrenaline and your whole body's shaking, it's all the worse if you're trying to do something you aren't familiar with.

Are you telling me that buying a gun and shooting people won't be just like Call of Duty

 

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Yeah. Even experienced gun owners can completely fall apart in an actual dangerous situation, I heard a cop story once where the department's star marksman got in a gunfight and hit nothing because he freaked out and just stuck the gun over his car door and pulled the trigger while waving it in the general direction of the criminal. Easy things become hard when you're jacked up on adrenaline and your whole body's shaking, it's all the worse if you're trying to do something you aren't familiar with.

I mean, trained or not, if your concern now is about how you'd defend your stocks of canned tuna and rice from looters you probably shouldn't be thinking about weapons first.

This virus is having a devastating impact even within China, with an authoritarian government with the power to impose serious measures to control its spread. It will be bad elsewhere. But it won't be the end of the current political system in anybody's country.

If you are seriously concerned about having to shoot looters, you still have to worry about what could happen afterwards. That can only be solved by community. Build up your local community of trust. Look at the example of what happened after New Orleans.

Nobody talks, everybody walks.

 

[pwnest injun]

Should probably stock up on olive oil since the price can only increase now that Italy is all fucked up.

 

[Eryngium]

Very important video please watch

 

[TheRedChair]

Note: I am posting this once again so that people can not go back several hundred pages what I posted previously that I deemed important.

So far I'm still good as as posted before my wife broke her hip and then developed the flu/pneumonia while recuperating at a care home for therapy and is now back again at the hospital. As posted previously I am exposed to just what is out there now as I continue my visits. Again as go through my cleaning procedures as I always do so I can avoid those seasonal bugs.

And again I am posting what I do to reduce the chances of being sick.
Cleaning products: Cheap Bleach. 91% rubbing Alcohol which can be cut down as needed. Ammonia.

BARS of SOAP... LOTS OF THEM It is to go bar of soap instead of liquid soap as I'LL explain later. Ample cotton towels/rags to wipe down with and separate hampers. One for outside clothing that might be exposed to germs and one for inside clothes. Papertowels are okay and keep a few on hand but you will go through a lot of them so it is just better off in the long run to use towels/rags.

I liberally used 50% Alcohol solution in a spray bottle on the toilet seat every time I use it as well as lightly soiled areas. 70 to 91% on medium - heavy soiled areas. Then wipe down after it sits on a surface for a few minutes.

Bleach is great in killing off germs and I use it to washout sinks, tubs toilets and floors. I have wood flooring through out the house.
Ammonia I use for very smooth surfaces such as windows.

I use Ivory Soap in bars and the reason is simple. During the depression era and the lost generation Bars of soap were used in just about everything. For washing your clothing, your dishes and yourself. Soap is a surfactant. As stated before dirt mostly has a negative charge. That is why it clings better to your clothing. Soap Demagnetizes the dirt and its suds help it rise to a surface. It is easy to use and it will last a long long time.

Now for something that the soap manufacturing companies do not want you to know. All packaged soap has a moisture content added to it. It is not dry... This is why when you wash with a bar of newly unwrapped soap it gets smaller quickly in a short amount of time. What you need to do is to unwrap some of the soap ahead of time and let it dry out in the sun, like on a window sill for about a week. That will drop the moisture content in the soap bar for long term use. Also do not throw out your small bits of soap. Collect them and make newer bars of soap or even liquid hand soap for later use.

Lysol helps with your shoes and if you like the general area of a room if you think someone is ill. Gloves of course and separate them for what is they are use for and after they are done spray some alcohol on them, wash your gloves and wipe them down with your readied towel. I also use the white cotton inspector gloves when I know I'm going to a area with a large grouping of people. Like buying groceries during peak times during cold/flu season All the dirt and crap you pick up on your hands will be shown to you.

Door knobs, handles, remotes, where people touches things wipe it down. Hand wipes are nice in a pinch but a spray bottle of a alcohol based solution/cleaning solution are the cheap and best method in keeping clean.

Vinegar I also keep as it is a multipurpose chemical.

But it all comes down to common sense. Wash your hands often keep your clothing separate (outdoor and indoor) and wash them separate.
Avoid large crowds if possible and stay safe. I am looking at this aspect. If this virus is coming and I do get infected I am doing my best to try not to get the "secondary" infections/illnesses that are caused by a weakened immune system. That is what I believe is killing the great deal of the people if the survive the corona virus. And that is due to poor hygiene/and poor eating/cleaning habits.

I don't think I'll get it but I'm sure as hell prepared for it as best as I can with the knowledge I have available to me.

I'll talk what I am staking up later, which is not much because of my live style as being taught by depression era parents/people on how to do certain things.