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I’m a bisexual troon and my favorite cows are those who claim to be some variation of genderspecial/asexual/pansexual or whatever because I can freely make fun of them without being called a transphobic shitlord.
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Identifying yourself as a sex position is exceptional and it should be ridiculed.
I think for a lot of guys it's not about "identifying yourself as a sex position" and more about being upfront about what they enjoy. Taking up the back stairs does absolutely nothing for me, and if that's a dealbreaker for someone else it makes sense to be clear that it isn't going to happen right on the outset. It's only relevant when you're looking for hookups, it's not something I have printed on my business cards.
 
Identifying yourself as a sex position is exceptional and it should be ridiculed.

Hey, it can be a problem.


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This is more relevant to female relationships, but specializing in one position is pointless and I suspect it’s just a mindset that got picked up from the guys.

The whole deal is a give and take. You’ve got to learn how to take turns and do both.

I find the whole hookup mindset to be pretty gross and so I forget to think in the context of sex outside a relationship. It sort of makes sense if you’re only meeting someone for sex. However, in the long term, I can’t imagine that a guy limiting himself to one position would be anything but detrimental.
 
This is more relevant to female relationships, but specializing in one position is pointless and I suspect it’s just a mindset that got picked up from the guys.

The whole deal is a give and take. You’ve got to learn how to take turns and do both.

I find the whole hookup mindset to be pretty gross and so I forget to think in the context of sex outside a relationship. It sort of makes sense if you’re only meeting someone for sex. However, in the long term, I can’t imagine that a guy limiting himself to one position would be anything but detrimental.
That's an absolutely brainlet take on it TBQHWY.

Nobody cares that you can flick the bean with your left hand and your right hand. The dude was talking about top/bottom/vers which is obviously about homo men. There's absolutely no reason to barge in and start talking about yourself.
 
This is more relevant to female relationships, but specializing in one position is pointless and I suspect it’s just a mindset that got picked up from the guys.

The whole deal is a give and take. You’ve got to learn how to take turns and do both.

I find the whole hookup mindset to be pretty gross and so I forget to think in the context of sex outside a relationship. It sort of makes sense if you’re only meeting someone for sex. However, in the long term, I can’t imagine that a guy limiting himself to one position would be anything but detrimental.

For gay dudes (I assume) it makes more of a difference, since what they're actually doing is different but girls who say they're hard bottoms just mean they're going to lie there and do nothing and are kinda shitty lays in general, imo. It's a relationship dynamic otherwise and that's something you kinda feel out.

I kind of wonder how bisexual people do the whole 'committed relationship' thing, though. Being tied down in a relationship just feels like you're missing out on half. I guess if your desire for companionship is strong enough it'd be worth it.

That's an absolutely brainlet take on it TBQHWY.

Nobody cares that you can flick the bean with your left hand and your right hand. The dude was talking about top/bottom/vers which is obviously about homo men. There's absolutely no reason to barge in and start talking about yourself.

Eh, I've run into women who talk about being tops or bottoms or whatever.
 
I kind of wonder how bisexual people do the whole 'committed relationship' thing, though. Being tied down in a relationship just feels like you're missing out on half. I guess if your desire for companionship is strong enough it'd be worth it.
I mean if you view it through that lens then all relationships are "missing out" on all the people you didn't get to fuck, but that's kinda the point of committing yourself to one person. It shows that you care for them and value them that you're willing to do that. Plenty of people never do settle down and just play the field until they're too old, and if that makes them happy then that's their business but it seems like a dreadful way to go through life to me.
 
I generally agree with @Surf and TERF that tying your preferred sex acts to your identity is pretty stupid, but there is a world of difference between taking a dick up your butt and putting your dick up other people's butts. I know I'm being pedantic, but someone who says "I like to top/bottom/both" comes off as a lot more rational and mature than someone who says "I am a top/bottom/versatile".

That said, if you can figure out how to enjoy both, you should because it opens up more options and then you can be in the middle of a train which is pretty cool. BUT i know some guys really hate one or the other, so it goes.
 
That's an absolutely brainlet take on it TBQHWY.

Nobody cares that you can flick the bean with your left hand and your right hand. The dude was talking about top/bottom/vers which is obviously about homo men. There's absolutely no reason to barge in and start talking about yourself.

Chill out. You get so pissy over every mild disagreement here.

You are not understanding how lesbian sex works and a lot of women use this term too. You can browse their dating apps and see for yourself.

I’m also considering that sex for gay men isn’t always penetrative. (Is it? That must be a pain.)
 
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I think for a lot of guys it's not about "identifying yourself as a sex position" and more about being upfront about what they enjoy. Taking up the back stairs does absolutely nothing for me, and if that's a dealbreaker for someone else it makes sense to be clear that it isn't going to happen right on the outset. It's only relevant when you're looking for hookups, it's not something I have printed on my business cards.
This is more relevant to female relationships, but specializing in one position is pointless and I suspect it’s just a mindset that got picked up from the guys.

The whole deal is a give and take. You’ve got to learn how to take turns and do both.

I find the whole hookup mindset to be pretty gross and so I forget to think in the context of sex outside a relationship. It sort of makes sense if you’re only meeting someone for sex. However, in the long term, I can’t imagine that a guy limiting himself to one position would be anything but detrimental.
That's an absolutely brainlet take on it TBQHWY.

Nobody cares that you can flick the bean with your left hand and your right hand. The dude was talking about top/bottom/vers which is obviously about homo men. There's absolutely no reason to barge in and start talking about yourself.
Chill out. You get so pissy over every mild disagreement here.

You are not understanding how lesbian sex works and a lot of women use this term too. You can browse their dating apps and see for yourself.

I’m also considering that sex for gay men isn’t always penetrative. (Is it? That must be a pain.)





I can't believe this thread has gotten this far without anybody asking the most important question of all: which is best: top, bottom, or versatile?

I think I'm somewhere between top and versatile.
I think I know why that hasn't been discussed.
 
Identifying yourself as a sex position is exceptional and it should be ridiculed.

It's not really about identity, it's more about sexual preference. A significant number of gay/bi guys have a strong preference with regard to their preferred sexual role, and it can be very awkward when both partners share the same preference.

I've bottomed a few times, and I really want to like it, but in most cases, the discomfort has outweighed the pleasure for me. It may just be that I need more experience, but a part of me suspects that it may just be something I'm not particularly into. I'm not sure, but I'd be interested to get other people's opinions on this.

I’m also considering that sex for gay men isn’t always penetrative. (Is it? That must be a pain.)

In my experience, male-on-male sex is usually penetrative. Oral is usually just foreplay.
 
You are not understanding how lesbian sex works
And you quite obviously have no idea how gay sex works.

The difference is I didn't ride in with my dumb-dumb hot take and get butthurt when told it was stupid.

Look at the progression of this dumb slapfight:
You said a dumb thing
I gave you a reasonable response that explains why it's not the case for guys
You doubled down
I told you to stfu

That's not me being pissy, that's you being a smoothbrain and trying to backpedal
 
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Are there any lesbian dating apps? I've looked for them in the past and have never found one.

There are quite a few in the US. HER is the standard where I am but availability varies in different countries.

And you quite obviously have no idea how gay sex works.

The difference is I didn't ride in with my dumb-dumb hot take and get butthurt when told it was stupid.

Look at the progression of this dumb slapfight:
You said a dumb thing
I gave you a reasonable response that explains why it's not the case for guys
You doubled down
I told you to stfu

That's not me being pissy, that's you being a smoothbrain and trying to backpedal

Give it a rest.

Being pissy is chimping out whenever someone disagrees with you. Usually you just spam passive aggressive ratings and I ignore it. I’m talking now because you’re getting confrontational. Regardless of your opinion on other people’s opinions, there’s a difference between expressing it in a discussion with baseline sarcasm and starting a slapfight with petty insults. I’m fairly certain you mentioned being in your 40s so I doubt you’re unaware of the difference.
 
Being pissy is chimping out whenever someone disagrees with you. Usually you just spam passive aggressive ratings and I ignore it. I’m talking now because you’re getting confrontational. Regardless of your opinion on other people’s opinions, there’s a difference between expressing it in a discussion with baseline sarcasm and starting a slapfight with petty insults. I’m fairly certain you mentioned being in your 40s so I doubt you’re unaware of the difference.
So now we know you're just being a dumb hole that doesn't like being told she's wrong.
 
Give it a rest.

Being pissy is chimping out whenever someone disagrees with you. Usually you just spam passive aggressive ratings and I ignore it. I’m talking now because you’re getting confrontational. Regardless of your opinion on other people’s opinions, there’s a difference between expressing it in a discussion with baseline sarcasm and starting a slapfight with petty insults. I’m fairly certain you mentioned being in your 40s so I doubt you’re unaware of the difference.
So now we know you're just being a dumb hole that doesn't like being told she's wrong.
Jesus, can you two get a room?
 
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