Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I can actually see them doing that. The crazy thing to me is that Disneyland tickets are ridiculously overpriced and those tourists tend to stay there for about a week, while staying in the Disneyland resort hotels. People are going to be spending a ton of money to get sick.



It would be pretty funny considering how much they overcharge people.
Dude I used to work in mousewhictz before college. Fuck Disney.
Isn’t there a creepy pasta involving that?
Idk I'm not Google trying to get my tits calm ate a special brownie; also trying to get my fibromlygia prescription atleast 3 months in advance.I got a feeling once this plague gets worse the druggies are gonna loot gabatin and lyrics like crazy it extends the high of opoids. I can't function in pain and lyrica is a bitch if you just stop. Basically I'm trying to secure my necessary meds if in the event we get worse. Because some meds while not necessarily important to live are known by druggies to mix with other drugs to extend the effects.
 
First infected in the Netherlands.
Apparently the gov has held back the info for 2 days to announce it on a special program on state tv.

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Two new articles, i've italicized some interesting snippets.

New data from China buttress fears about high coronavirus fatality rate, WHO expert says
By HELEN BRANSWELL @HelenBranswell
FEBRUARY 25, 2020

One of the hopes of people watching China’s coronavirus outbreak was that the alarming picture of its lethality is probably exaggerated because a lot of mild cases are likely being missed.

But on Tuesday, a World Health Organization expert suggested that does not appear to be the case. Bruce Aylward, who led an international mission to China to learn about the virus and China’s response, said the specialists did not see evidence that a large number of mild cases of the novel disease called Covid-19 are evading detection.

“So I know everybody’s been out there saying, ‘Whoa, this thing is spreading everywhere and we just can’t see it, tip of the iceberg.’ But the data that we do have don’t support that,” Aylward said during a briefing for journalists at WHO’s Geneva headquarters.

Getting a handle on how many people have actually been infected is crucial to assessing how dangerous this virus is. During the early days of an explosive outbreak with a new pathogen, it is hugely challenging to look beyond the people streaming into hospitals for care to see whether there are many more at home with a mild cold or manageable flu-like illness.

If large numbers of mild or virtually symptom-free cases are evading detection, that would suggest that estimates of the proportion of people who might end up in ICUs or might die during a Covid-19 epidemic would be lower than what has been seen to date in China.

But if there aren’t large numbers of uncounted cases, the severity seen in China is what the rest of the world should expect as the virus moves to new locations, especially if it spreads to the degree seen in Hubei province, where the outbreak began.

“What [the data] support is that sure, there may be a few asymptomatic cases … but there’s probably not huge transmission beyond what you can actually see clinically,” Aylward said.

The claim was quickly challenged by an infectious diseases expert who serves on a committee that advises the WHO’s health emergencies program.

Gary Kobinger, director of the Infectious Disease Research Center at Laval University in Quebec, said it would be highly unusual for there not to be mild or symptom-free cases that are being missed. He pointed to the fact that outbreaks have popped up in countries far from China — including Iran and Italy — because people with mild infections were not detected and traveled to other places.

“There are mild cases that are undetected. This is why it’s spreading. Otherwise it would not be spreading because we would know where those cases are and they would be contained and that would be the end of it,” said Kobinger, who insisted that mild, undetected infections cannot be ruled out until people who haven’t been diagnosed with the illness can be tested for antibodies to the virus.

Those kinds of tests, called serology tests, are just becoming available in China, Aylward said.

“As long as we do not have good serology data, I think that it is completely speculative to say that there are no undetected cases,” Kobinger said.

Aylward pointed to an analysis from Guangdong province suggesting that, at least there, most of the infections were coming to the attention of health authorities.

When the virus started to spread in Guangdong — the province where the 2002-2003 SARS outbreak began — worried people flooded fever clinics to be tested. Of 320,000 tests performed, just under 0.5% were positive for the virus at the peak of transmission there, he said — which suggests that only 1 case out of 200 was being missed.

Transmission of the virus has subsided in Guangdong, and the number of positive tests at the fever clinics has declined; now only about 1 in 5,000 people tested at the fever clinics is positive for the virus, he said.

Aylward said that across China, about 80% of cases are mild, about 14% are severe, and about 6% become critically ill. The case fatality rate — the percentage of known infected people who die — is between 2% and 4% in Hubei province, and 0.7% in other parts of China, he said.


The lower rate outside of Hubei is likely due to the draconian social distancing measures China has put in place to try to slow spread of the virus. Other parts of China have not had the huge explosion of cases seen in Hubei, Aylward said.

A case fatality rate of between 2% to 4% rivals and even exceeds that of the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, which is estimated to have killed upwards of 50 million people. Even a case fatality rate of 0.7% — which means 7 out of every 1,000 infected people would die — is sobering. It is seven times the fatality rate for seasonal flu, which is estimated to kill between 290,000 and 650,000 people a year globally.

Italy changes virus count methods at UN agency's urging
Italy is changing how it reports coronavirus cases and who will get tested in ways that could lower the country's caseload even as an outbreak centered in northern Italy spreads in Europe
By
FRANCES D'EMILIO and NICOLE WINFIELD Associated Press
February 27, 2020, 9:07 AM
2 min read

ROME -- With tourism tanking and panic rising, Italy is changing how it reports coronavirus cases and who will get tested in ways that could lower the country's caseload even as an outbreak centered in northern Italy spreads in Europe, officials said Thursday.

Italian authorities plan from now on to distinguish between people who test positive for the virus and patients showing symptoms of COVID-19, the illness the virus causes, since the majority of the people in Italy with confirmed infections aren’t actually sick.


As of Thursday, Italy reported 528 cases and 12 confirmed deaths from the virus, the most of any country outside Asia. All the patients who died were elderly, sick with other ailments or both.

At the urging of the World Health Organization, Italy also is distinguishing between positive virus tests reported at a regional level and results confirmed by its National Institute of Health. The U.N. health agency insisted that only nationally certified cases are considered official.

“The cases that emerge from the regions are still considered suspect and unconfirmed,” Walter Ricciardi, a WHO adviser to the Italian government, said. "You will see that in the next few days, there will be outbreaks in other countries, too. But the other countries are much more rigorous” in their reporting methods.

Italy’s civil protection chief Angelo Borrelli said the Thursday count of 528 cases came from regional reports. Only 282 cases were certified by the national health institute, but that was all the test results it analyzed, Borrelli said.

Official certification therefore wasn’t expected to significantly alter the overall numbers in Italy once they were all counted, Borrelli said.

Out of the 528 cases, 159 infected people have required hospital treatment and 37 were in intensive care, while the vast majority isolated themselves at home in self-quarantine, Borrelli said.

The government is seeking to calm fears about the outbreak, which has seen countries issue travel advisories warning their citizens to avoid visiting hard-hit Lombardy and Veneto regions, which have seen the most cases.

The Italian government has lashed out at what it called alarmist and inaccurate reporting about the degree of contagion and level of panic, and insisted Italy is a safe country and ready to receive visitors.

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Aren't the claims in the first story contradicted by the claims in the second, or am I missing something? Help me out here.
I think Italy is so reliant on tourism that it would literally die without it.
 
A Polish presidential hopeful is going to China because flights are cheap now.

His political party includes
-Social liberalism
-Progressivism
-Environmentalism
-Feminism
-Anti-clericalism
-Pro-Europeanism
No shock that this individual has no self preservation instinct
 
At least there is some positive news regarding China.


China’s Shenzhen prepares ban on eating cats, dogs after virus outbreak

BY REUTERS
FEB 27, 2020 10:57 AM

The southern Chinese technology hub of Shenzhen is moving to outlaw the consumption of dogs and cats as the country clamps down on the wildlife trade that scientists suspect led to the coronavirus outbreak.

The proposed regulations from the city government list nine meats that are permitted for consumption, including pork, chicken, beef and rabbit, as well as fish and seafood.
Banning the consumption of wild animals is a common practice in developed countries and is a universal requirement of modern civilization, the notice said.

Scientists suspect that the new virus passed to humans from animals. Some of the earliest infections were found in people who had exposure to a wildlife market in Hubei's provincial capital Wuhan, where bats, snakes, civets and other animals were sold.
The document recognized dogs and cats' status as pets and would ban their consumption. Snakes, turtles and frogs were excluded from the approved list, despite being popular dishes in China's south.

A ban on eating dog and cat meat in Shenzhen would be extremely welcome, said Peter Li, China policy expert for Humane Society International, an animal welfare group.
Although the trade in Shenzhen is fairly small compared with the rest of province, Shenzhen is still a huge city and is larger than Wuhan, so this would be very significant and could even have a domino effect with other cities following, he said.

The other permitted meats are lamb, donkey, ducks, geese and pigeon. The proposal noted there are more than 2,000 species of protected wildlife in China.
Shenzhen's proposal follows a decision by the central government on Monday for an immediate ban in the trade and consumption of wild animals, after an initial suspension in January.

The State Forestry and Grassland Administration is also moving to expand the scope of protected wildlife, and will revoke licenses for wildlife breeding organizations found to be breeding for consumption, Xinhua reported Thursday.
Those caught eating protected animals would be fined up to 20,000 yuan ($2,850) and up to 2,000 yuan for non-protected animals, according to the draft. Shops serving protected meat face fines of up to 50,000 yuan.
The public will have until Thursday to respond to the draft, according to the document.
In Yulin, a city in the neighboring province of Guangxi famous for its dog meat festival, most dog slaughter operations have closed in the past two months because of restrictions on moving dogs across provincial borders, Li said.

Eddit: Thank you Doctor Purr :3
 
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Dude I used to work in mousewhictz before college. Fuck Disney.

It'd get just as messy if a Disney worker got sick as well. Especially the ones that play the Disney princesses since they have to spend all that time hugging children and taking photos with them. What about the ill children that go to Disneyland because Make-A-Wish gives them tickets? That's even worse.
 
I wonder what theme parks like Disneyland are going to do. Disneyland is very popular after the winter and that's when all the tourists go out or fly to California to go there. That many people crowding the park at once and waiting for long amounts of time in lines as they stand back to back is going to make the whole thing messy and spread infection. That's what happened when Measles spread in Disneyland.

Did You notice that Bob Iger, the guy who’s been Disney’s CEO for 15 years, stepped down unexpectedly on Tuesday? Yeah Disney is Fucked and Bob knows it.
 
The Germans declare coronavirus officially deadlier than the flu:

RKI President Lothar Wieler said the likelihood of dying from flu was 0.1 to 0.2 %. According to the figures known so far, the rate for Sars-CoV-2 is almost ten times as high - 1-2 %. 80 %of those infected had only mild symptoms, but 15 %were seriously ill with the lung disease Covid-19.


Press conference:



Hmmm...but WHO(re) says it's just sniffles, man :story:
 
At least there is some positive news regarding China.


China’s Shenzhen prepares ban on eating cats, dogs after virus outbreak

BY REUTERS
FEB 27, 2020 10:57 AM

The southern Chinese technology hub of Shenzhen is moving to outlaw the consumption of dogs and cats as the country clamps down on the wildlife trade that scientists suspect led to the coronavirus outbreak.

The proposed regulations from the city government list nine meats that are permitted for consumption, including pork, chicken, beef and rabbit, as well as fish and seafood.
Banning the consumption of wild animals is a common practice in developed countries and is a universal requirement of modern civilization, the notice said.

Scientists suspect that the new virus passed to humans from animals. Some of the earliest infections were found in people who had exposure to a wildlife market in Hubei's provincial capital Wuhan, where bats, snakes, civets and other animals were sold.
The document recognized dogs and cats' status as pets and would ban their consumption. Snakes, turtles and frogs were excluded from the approved list, despite being popular dishes in China's south.

A ban on eating dog and cat meat in Shenzhen would be extremely welcome, said Peter Li, China policy expert for Humane Society International, an animal welfare group.
Although the trade in Shenzhen is fairly small compared with the rest of province, Shenzhen is still a huge city and is larger than Wuhan, so this would be very significant and could even have a domino effect with other cities following, he said.

The other permitted meats are lamb, donkey, ducks, geese and pigeon. The proposal noted there are more than 2,000 species of protected wildlife in China.
Shenzhen's proposal follows a decision by the central government on Monday for an immediate ban in the trade and consumption of wild animals, after an initial suspension in January.

The State Forestry and Grassland Administration is also moving to expand the scope of protected wildlife, and will revoke licenses for wildlife breeding organizations found to be breeding for consumption, Xinhua reported Thursday.
Those caught eating protected animals would be fined up to 20,000 yuan ($2,850) and up to 2,000 yuan for non-protected animals, according to the draft. Shops serving protected meat face fines of up to 50,000 yuan.
The public will have until Thursday to respond to the draft, according to the document.
In Yulin, a city in the neighboring province of Guangxi famous for its dog meat festival, most dog slaughter operations have closed in the past two months because of restrictions on moving dogs across provincial borders, Li said.
I wouldn't get excited, Shenzhen is very much its own beast. Its a hop and a skip from Hong Kong, and China's very own Silicon Valley (where the Social Credit score is pioneered). Anyone who can afford to live there hold themselves and their neighbours to higher standards than the rest of the country. Bar Shenzhen and a couple others, the lack of hygiene and sense of decency is so bad people eat whatever's available, and there are some that just defecate in the streets.

Hopefully it leads by example and starts a cultural drive nationwide to deter further infection, but this outbreak was never gonna originate from Shenzhen to begin with
 
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I saw that, the comments are mostly "Trump will lose because only old sick people will vote for him so they're all going to die take that Trumptards!" Also a heavy dose of Trump ruined glorious leader Obama's health care law so all brown people who die will be Trump's fault.
 
The Germans declare coronavirus officially deadlier than the flu:

RKI President Lothar Wieler said the likelihood of dying from flu was 0.1 to 0.2 %. According to the figures known so far, the rate for Sars-CoV-2 is almost ten times as high - 1-2 %. 80 %of those infected had only mild symptoms, but 15 %were seriously ill with the lung disease Covid-19.


Press conference:



Hmmm...but WHO(re) says it's just sniffles, man :story:
We all know WHO(re) is in bed with china. :3
 
Ya know, it could be that so many Chinese are dying of the Coronavirus cause none of the wash their hands.
Well that would just happen to be the twist ending of the sci-fi epic I was penning where the scientist and the tumblr kids unlock the very dark secret of Coronachan. Damn you!!!
 
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It was perfectly possible to make this statement without using the word "racist" but you did it anyways. It's still stupid with or without it, but that one, extra word just makes the entire thing insufferable and guarantees that a huge chunk of the population is going to roll their eyes rather than even bother to entertain whatever Cherokee charade you're up to this time.
 
lol the same people screaming you're a racist for calling it bat flu, Wuflu, whatever have no problem with this:

These people are so brainwashed they could be on their deathbed and go "tell them... I died.... of Drumphvirus...urrghhh" the last few years has demonstrated people are only marginally smarter and more articulate than apes.
 
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