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Krimjob said:
So what is the Kiwis opinion on this?

www.jpost.com

Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'

Once the vaccine is developed, it will take at least 90 days to complete the regulatory process and potentially more to enter the marketplace.
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They're full of shit. It takes a while to even develop something that looks like it works, even longer to confirm that it indeed does work by testing it on animals and humans, and another while to start mass-producing it. Multiply by N for the amount of times the supposed vaccine doesn't work.
 
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Jet Fuel Johnny said:
If you prepare for stuff like this, you get called names. If you worry about obvious dangers and hazards, you get called names.
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Shut up prep stop flamin my story goths rule

People are still traveling to the adjacent countries to China. If one is following the hygiene protocols we have drilled into our heads here, and self-quarantine with dry goods, would these travelers stand a better chance?
 
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5ever a crab said:
Sorry guys but can I ask for advice on calming down?
I lurked on /pol/ conspiracies and now I'm genuinely panicking- even though I know that /pol/ tried to predict HAPPENINGS before and failed. But still I can't keep my mind off them because its the type of person I am (I'm easily bothered by things like hiccups and can't make them go away). I know that there's the part of me left that some soldiers won't suddenly come up to my door and assassinate me because I made edgy jokes, I don't know why I'm freaking out like those gangstalker people now.

p-pls help; I admit I have anxiety problems in the past but flinging my shit over something that won't probably happen will not help anything.
What are calming techniques to keep my mind rational and use common sense; mostly on the freaking out over conspiracy part because my brain is trying to believe that I'm gonna die.
I know its dumb but pls help :stress:
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Get yourself 6+ cats. You wont have time to worry or panic about anything plus they can drop your blood pressure and stress levels to a relaxed state.

Side note : Local Bunnings stores in West Aus are starting to show empty shelves when it comes to 3M and similar brand masks and respirators.
Oil and Gas industry store people are noticing that a lot of their site stock is starting to dwindle and not be returned. Out of date but unused stock (masks, not filters) is now having to be rotated into the system just to keep up. They're not at 'people are stealing air fed welding helmets' stages yet, but it's coming.
A state rep for Sundstromme and Interspiro said that he was getting calls daily now from private buyers wanting large numbers of CABA masks and respirators but he's struggling to keep up with industry orders let alone private randoms..

An update on the Hopkins site which shows numbers more likely realistic 8 weeks ago.

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With new dots in South America and Africa now 💀
 
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GoofyMcGoof said:
It has a current death toll of 7%. Everything else is mumbo jumbo.
What we *know* is that 7% die and 93% recover.

What we suspect is that 1-3% will die.
Some people expect even fewer deaths because they inflate the number of possible people not diagnosed without any sources and despite the most stringent control mechanisms ever implemented in the world being active in China.


If I was a really scummy betting man who bets on pandemic deaths I'd put it at 5% without access to effective hospital treatment.
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The death toll isn't the issue. The issue is that you're constantly sick apparently.

Even cured you just end up getting reinfected, supposedly...

I don't think this is quite the bubonic plague or the fatalism of AIDS.

But, I think it creates more of a problem than the latter due to it's infection rates...

The info I want to see is the immunity rate. You might be carrier but aren't ill from it...
 
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Niggaplease said:
China is on damage control with the presses I handed documents to my boss with reports that the crematories in wuhan are operating 24/7 with bodies coming in from the streets and houses. by saying this is just the sniffles is a huge understatement the cold even in the poorest of countries hasn't hit that level of death.
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Did you see the crematories in Wuhan yourself? If there would be "bodies incoming" all the time so much that crematories really are running out of capacity in Wuhan, why is the death toll in the west so low?
 
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Absolute Brainlet said:
They're full of shit. It takes a while to even develop something that looks like it works, even longer to confirm that it indeed does work by testing it on animals and humans, and another while to start mass-producing it. Multiply by N for the amount of times the supposed vaccine doesn't work.
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Yeah this was my thought as well. But for some reason international media is now basically going "Welp, we're saved". It seems optimistic as fuck to me. Twitter is now almost calming down here in Sweden because of it, for example.
 
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Coleslaw said:
I meant in the 1890s and 1900s. Just ask Alec Benson Leary if you don't believe me.
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Yeah but now the article mentions 1918 as the cataclysm for it all so, between 1900 and 1918 there wasn't a welfare state and your point is? Besides, why would leaving a country due to poor harvest necessitate an expansion of healthcare, the opposite would be more likely. Still Im sure social services expanded during this time, the free masons helped in this regard by building a school for the poor for example.
 
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Bum Driller said:
Did you see the crematories in Wuhan yourself? If there would be "bodies incoming" all the time so much that crematories really are running out of capacity in Wuhan, why is the death toll in the west so low?
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Simple because it hasn't had a chance to spread to the extent is has in wuhan. If it really spread every where as you say it has than we'd have more cases falling into other states with no actual known vector. It's spreading like wildfire in milan and the documents part of them were smuggled out of China by an informant in wuhan.
point is yes it can spread but it's taking time in the USA because so far we've been quaranting them asap. That can only sustain itself so long.
Point is its gonna spread but we can't say for certain how low the death rate will be because china again won't release actual stats and they're only counting those they know have died from wu flu any body found in any other circumstance is immediately listed as death by other causes and taken to be burned.
 
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Bum Driller said:
Did you see the crematories in Wuhan yourself? If there would be "bodies incoming" all the time so much that crematories really are running out of capacity in Wuhan, why is the death toll in the west so low?
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Because the spread is in early stages lol. And ching chong lies about their numbers. Memba Chernobyl?
 
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Male Idiot said:
Because the spread is in early stages lol. And ching chong lies about their numbers. Memba Chernobyl?
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You can't expect the same government willing to cover up their baby formula issues and various other fake food fiascos to give us any actual info.
Why do you think WHO(re) is sucking their dicks and bennding over for them? Because if they don't china can just stop cooperating completely. Truth is I'm doubtful of the low death rates because Iran and Italy is getting fucked hard by it.
 
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Bum Driller said:
Did you see the crematories in Wuhan yourself? If there would be "bodies incoming" all the time so much that crematories really are running out of capacity in Wuhan, why is the death toll in the west so low?
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My guess is that they are creating crematoriums because it's an overwhelmed medical infastructure with poor facilities.

This leads to do a number on the sickly and elderly(because of terrible treatment).

In a developed country, Wu crematoriums don't happen.

It still doesn't fix shit because people are still non-functionally sick. But, it's probably not quite as dramatic...

Also, you can put me down as a genetically engineered weapon virus. One, thankfully, that was not fully developed. But, enough to wreck their own economy...

I'm still curious, if true, that information eventually comes out...
 
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Niggaplease said:
Simple because it hasn't had a chance to spread to the extent is has in wuhan. If it really spread every where as you say it has than we'd have more cases falling into other states with no actual known vector. It's spreading like wildfire in milan and the documents part of them were smuggled out of China by an informant in wuhan.
point is yes it can spread but it's taking time in the USA because so far we've been quaranting them asap. That can only sustain itself so long.
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We know for a fact that it was around already in the beginning of December. Do you understand how many people have travelled from Wuhan area to abroad between that time and the lockdown? There is no change in hell it wouldn't have already spread to all major cities in the planet, and probably to lots of other places also. The reason we're suddenly seeing an uptick in cases is simply because just two weeks ago no-one was testing people who had not been in Wuhan. Most likely infected people have been running around asymptomatically at least from the beginning of January everywhere on the planet, but because the fact is that so very few develop conditions needing hospital treatment nobody noticed it before.

It's impossible to quarantine a disease with this long incubation period, especially since it has been around many months before anyone did anything, is all I'm saying. But then again, because thus far death toll is really low outside China and Iran(both of which have their own issues), logical conclusion is that this is not a real reason to panic.
 
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Kujo Jotaro said:
Not trying to be a doomer or anything, but if you have any relatives in a nursing home or long term care otherwise now would be a good time to go and see them.
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No it's not. A lot of nursing homes are currently quarantined because of the flu. It's not smart to subject elderly people to potentially contracting PRESENT illnesses that are very difficult to bounce back from at that age. Pneumonia, whooping cough, the flu, all which are still a very real danger to the elderly, moreso than the coronavirus.
 
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