[16-Jan-2020] DarksydePhil is filing for bankruptcy (general thread) - and has officially done so on January 31 2020, meaning a lot of his finances have become public

What will happen with his case following the 341 meeting?

  • Still gets Chapter 7

    Votes: 126 18.1%
  • Changed to Chapter 13 and ultimately fails to make his required payments

    Votes: 218 31.3%
  • Chapter 13 and successfully completed all payments

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Complete dismissal of the bankruptcy

    Votes: 334 47.9%

  • Total voters
    697
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Similarly, I assume he could claim some portion of the 2018 federal tax payment plan as a business expense,

Pretty sure personal income tax is not a biz expense. If it were, everyone could just start a business to claim it on top of their deduction.
Sales tax on a video game would be an expense.
 
He can take out a tab at Gamestop, get all his consoles and games there, and never pay. They're still expenses because he still bought things. It's a very common accounting method. He just needs to use it all the time or none of the time on his bookkeeping / bankruptcy documents.

What's more he can even pre-deduct the expected depreciation value of the entirety of certain capital purchases in advance, i.e. take the 5 or 7 years or whatever of depreciation in one big lump sum at the outset rather than as a deduction every single year it depreciates.

Of course, this means you can't actually deduct in subsequent years when the property is actually depreciating.
 
What's more he can even pre-deduct the expected depreciation value of the entirety of certain capital purchases in advance, i.e. take the 5 or 7 years or whatever of depreciation in one big lump sum at the outset rather than as a deduction every single year it depreciates.

Of course, this means you can't actually deduct in subsequent years when the property is actually depreciating.
Imagine if he hired an actual attorney who could tell him all these things so he can finesse the system without just plain lying.
 
Imagine if he hired an actual attorney who could tell him all these things so he can finesse the system without just plain lying.
Don’t be silly. That requires more then one or two visits to their office to get that sorted out. Phil here is a gamer and doesn’t have time for that, he uses the spray on bankruptcy lawyer. Needs to be done with his appointment with his lawyer and download that DLC for his stream.
 
Similarly, I assume he could claim some portion of the 2018 federal tax payment plan as a business expense,

He can't claim income tax as an expense. He also can't claim an income tax payment as an expense. Phil might be doing this, but it makes no sense at all and he won't get away with it.

Remember, expenses reduce his taxable income. He only pay taxes on income after deducting expenses. Saying taxes are an expense would be the same as saying him paying taxes reduces his taxes.

I guess Phil uses this pig-logic in two ways: Tells the IRS that his taxes are an expense, so he owes less taxes when he pays them because he has more expenses. At the same time he tells his viewers that paying taxes increases his taxes because he needs more money to pay taxes on the money he raised to pay taxes.
 
I guess Phil uses this pig-logic in two ways: Tells the IRS that his taxes are an expense, so he owes less taxes when he pays them because he has more expenses. At the same time he tells his viewers that paying taxes increases his taxes because he needs more money to pay taxes on the money he raised to pay taxes.

Ironically he made that argument with the state tax versus federal tax begathons. When he had the unexpected state tax shortfall and raised that money from begathon streams it wasn't long before claiming that extra money exceeded his quarterly federal estimated tax payments so he needed even more money for to pay those. Never-ending cycle. He made it sound like he was taxed more than he earns.
 
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"No one's taking my game consoles. No one's taking ANY of my shit. If you believe that stupidity, you are SO gullible and you believe the dumbest shit from the dumbest fucking people on the planet. You really do!"

 
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"No one's taking my game consoles. No one's taking ANY of my shit. If you believe that stupidity, you are SO gullible and you believe the dumbest shit from the dumbest fucking people on the planet. You really do!"

I hope we see a public record if they do take anything
 
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"No one's taking my game consoles. No one's taking ANY of my shit. If you believe that stupidity, you are SO gullible and you believe the dumbest shit from the dumbest fucking people on the planet. You really do!"

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I like that DSP doesn't understand why he is so toxic.

All DSP had to say was "my consoles are protected because they are a part of my business, so I need them to do my job."

But he literally can't do that. DSP HAS to insult the guy. He HAS to call him stupid. He HAS to call him gullible. He HAS to say that the guy "has been listening to the nonsense" when there's zero evidence of that and it was a reasonable question. He HAS to claim that the guy is "spreading nonsense" by asking a question. He HAS to get angry at the guy instead of just brushing him off or calmly explaining his point.

And the best part is that DSP feels 100% justified in talking the guy that way because he immediately labels anyone a troll, and then when people call DSP out for spreading negativity himself, he just goes "nah uh, he STARTED IT!" like a 4 year old.
 
Clipped for archival purposes, taken from the February 27 late stream:

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"No one's taking my game consoles. No one's taking ANY of my shit. If you believe that stupidity, you are SO gullible and you believe the dumbest shit from the dumbest fucking people on the planet. You really do!"
I like that DSP doesn't understand why he is so toxic.

All DSP had to say was "my consoles are protected because they are a part of my business, so I need them to do my job."

But he literally can't do that. DSP HAS to insult the guy. He HAS to call him stupid. He HAS to call him gullible. He HAS to say that the guy "has been listening to the nonsense" when there's zero evidence of that and it was a reasonable question. He HAS to claim that the guy is "spreading nonsense" by asking a question. He HAS to get angry at the guy instead of just brushing him off or calmly explaining his point.

And the best part is that DSP feels 100% justified in talking the guy that way because he immediately labels anyone a troll, and then when people call DSP out for spreading negativity himself, he just goes "nah uh, he STARTED IT!" like a 4 year old.

This is bordering on a more general discussion of Pig and some armchair psychology, but who cares:

Like 1-2 weeks ago, someone asked Phil 'why do you have to call people idiots? why can't you just ignore it?' And he basically hoof-waved his way through something akin to 'if you treat me with respect I treat you with respect, if you call me an idiot I'll do likewise.' In my head at the moment, I thought, 'Phil, why is it that you MUST retaliate to them? Why can't you just ignore them? Why MUST you get the last cowardly word in before blocking them?

Then I recalled this video between a famous criminal psychologist and a famous mafia hitman. I timestamped it (~6:35), but the relevant exchange is here:

'A paranoid personality disorder. The general rule for someone who is paranoid is to trust no one. Let no one get too close to you. And to never forgive anyone who does you wrong. If somebody criticizes them, they're quick to respond with anger or to counter attack. If somebody humiliates them, then they must have revenge.

About 2-3% of males have the antisocial personality disorder."


Funnily enough, the psychologist says earlier that there are people that use their fearlessness disorder for good (cops, firefighters, bomb disposal units) and those that use it for bad (criminals). I guess Pig is a gray hat in that regard: he uses it to beg.
 
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Question. How exactly is his business Burnell Productions save but not the private person Phill Burnell? Both share the house, electronics, games, electric and water, the business is in fact just one person which is Phil. The entire profit of Burnell Productions goes into his wallet, he's not employed, but the boss and only workforce. So wouldn't his business go bankrupt if the said business can't generate enough money to liquidate the debts?

Or this is some mishmash wibble wobble law thing the common folks don't really need to understand, they don't understand it either. Or it's just me, that happens quite often.

Rainbow hands for his business getting obliterated.

Edit. @Salubrious I hope the hearing and audio recording brings some light into the dark. Recently he lies about the most miniscule facts. Now he's wired to directly contradict himself in absolutes without gray areas. This fucker is so damn confusing and unreliable.
 
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Question. How exactly is his business Burnell Productions save but not the private person Phill Burnell? Both share the house, electronics, games, electric and water, the business is in fact just one person which is Phil. The entire profit of Burnell Productions goes into his wallet, he's not employed, but the boss and only workforce. So wouldn't his business go bankrupt if the said business can't generate enough money to liquidate the debts?

Or this is some mishmash wibble wobble law thing the common folks don't really need to understand, they don't understand it either. Or it's just me, that happens quite often.

Rainbow hands for his business getting obliterated.

DSP is making shit up, and telling people what he hopes the process will be, not what it actually is.
 
Question. How exactly is his business Burnell Productions save but not the private person Phill Burnell? Both share the house, electronics, games, electric and water, the business is in fact just one person which is Phil. The entire profit of Burnell Productions goes into his wallet, he's not employed, but the boss and only workforce. So wouldn't his business go bankrupt if the said business can't generate enough money to liquidate the debts?

Or this is some mishmash wibble wobble law thing the common folks don't really need to understand, they don't understand it either. Or it's just me, that happens quite often.

Rainbow hands for his business getting obliterated.

Edit. @Salubrious I hope the hearing and audio recording brings some light into the dark. Recently he lies about the most miniscule facts. Now he's wired to directly contradict himself in absolutes without gray areas. This fucker is so damn confusing and unreliable.
I'm really looking forward to hearing how regular people respond to Phil's gobbledygook of contradicting himself in the same sentence, then either denying it or claiming he meant something entirely different from the words he actually said then inventing a new meaning on the spot he thinks will play well. Y'know, like a compulsive liar.
 
"No one's taking my game consoles. No one's taking ANY of my shit. If you believe that stupidity, you are SO gullible and you believe the dumbest shit from the dumbest fucking people on the planet. You really do!"

They're literally taking his Connecticut condo already. Phil is stupid.

Question. How exactly is his business Burnell Productions save but not the private person Phill Burnell?

They're not separate at all. It's all just Phil.
 
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There should be a public auction.
Now this is where someone should bring a camera and film.
The final insult as all the crap that has helped him on his way to all the debt is sold for pennies on the dollar. Thousands of dollars "worth" of statues being sold of in bulk at $25.
The sound of his blood vessel popping would penetrate the vacuum of space.
 
Thousands of dollars "worth" of statues being sold of in bulk at $25.
The sound of his blood vessel popping would penetrate the vacuum of space.

No he would just use that to validate his failure to sell any of his assets to cover his debt. "See, I told you idiots that stuff wasn't worth anything and selling it wouldn't have helped."
 
No he would just use that to validate his failure to sell any of his assets to cover his debt. "See, I told you idiots that stuff wasn't worth anything and selling it wouldn't have helped."
More likely is he would call them thieves who is intentionally selling it off at a low price so they can take more money from him.

A guy who has bought pantings of boob inprints is not gonna admit that his big boy toys were worthless.
 
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