Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[spiritofamermaid]

While I've never had doubts about our food production, I'm curious about packaging. Is there a possibility of us not being able to get foodstuffs from point A to point B?

Perhaps? Those bottlenecks would be along transportation lines, regarding gas for trucks and energy to keep the food fresh (assuming things like fruits and other temperature-sensitive things).

Plus iirc Mexico makes a lot of the plastics, since they use their crude oil for that.

 

[Robert James]

God you are all universally stupid sheeple.

Dude wait till it dies down then hold it against all the doomers, untill then be quiet, we may be able to get a federally mandated week off if enough people freak out.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

lol ok. sure. nobody from, get this, the direct adjacent county, when the urban sprawl of those counties is completely contiguous, would ever read this paper.

Not to mention people just Googling this incident who thought a local paper might be a nice source.

Most of the articles I tried to link from were mostly unreadable. I seriously searched for the most recent story and that's the one.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

I watched the news conference with the governor of Oregon, it’s like night and day between Trump/Pence and actual leadership. They answered questions honestly, gave the facts, were professionally, and didn’t make it political.

• They tested the case locally, waiting for cdc to confirm
• The person is an employee of a school/school district and spent time at an elementary school
• They’re tracking everyone who came into close contact with the person
• They had no prior travel history
• They are in the hospital and there is a potential second patient being tested currently.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Most of the articles I tried to link from were mostly unreadable. I seriously searched for the most recent story and that's the one.

I completely believe you.

 

[JosephStalin]

While I've never had doubts about our food production, I'm curious about packaging. Is there a possibility of us not being able to get foodstuffs from point A to point B?

Little, if any. Food goes by truck or train, sometimes by plane. Believe there will be an adequate number of truck drivers, train crews, and air crews.

We discussed packaging a while back. Was mentioned that plastic pellets to make packages/bottles from comes from Mexico. We also produce aluminum foil and cardboard. We make our own cans and glass, as well as corrugated boxes.

We could see a little less varied diet if shipments of food from foreign countries are affected. Otherwise, there will be plenty to eat.

Please keep in mind that only a small percentage of the total truck driver/train crew/airplane crew community will be out sick at any one time, just like in any other business.

 

[roxitp0w3rwuzdabest420]

I might be late on this but, holy shit. Has anyone else seen what the Q boomers are posting online about this virus. They believe it's not real at all. I knew they were a special breed of crazy but I would've thought they would understand the gravity of the situation. I thought for sure their would be a large overlap of Qtards and preppers but apparently not. To them this is caused by 5G being run by George Soros. When they start dropping dead they probably still call it a hoax. I'm sorry if I am rambling, I am just flabbergasted at this level of derangement. Giving boomers the internet was a mistake.

Trust the plan

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

A Youtube Drama "reporter" of all people made some kind of video about the mystery of the Coronavirus in China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8gYNGG-tnY

If anyone is interested in that kind of thing, the video is there. (I have no idea about that Shane Dawson reference though and why he's involved in that.)

 

[Bluemoon]

Years ago, my city was without power for two weeks after a windstorm. I'd go out to the car and turn on the radio expecting to hear some news about any progress in getting the lines off the streets and back on the poles, but there was nothing. Just the normal talk and music. It was infuriating and this time around I'm not going to pretend that a radio will be of any use.

I'd look into investing in a multiband radio that covers all the shortwave bands, and a good outdoor antenna for it. Regular FM/AM will be mostly useless at a local level, so you have to rely on shortwave/ham bands that will relay invaluable info.

 

[RodgerDodger]

While I've never had doubts about our food production, I'm curious about packaging. Is there a possibility of us not being able to get foodstuffs from point A to point B?

Not a big deal. Things like Packaging and similar, while commonly done today in China due to cost savings, are incredibly portable. You can spin up a new packaging plant in Alabama in a few days. Heck I might even know where there are some mothballed machines for sale. A lot of the made in China crap is remarkably easy to move or re-establish. It's some of the higher order stuff that is worrying. Pharmaceuticals, Microprocessors etc. Cheap Plastic shit is not an issue.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

Not a big deal. Things like Packaging and similar, while commonly done today in China due to cost savings, are incredibly portable. You can spin up a new packaging plant in Alabama in a few days. Heck I might even know where there are some mothballed machines for sale. A lot of the made in China crap is remarkably easy to move or re-establish. It's some of the higher order stuff that is worrying. Pharmaceuticals, Microprocessors etc. Cheap Plastic shit is not an issue.

Do we already have the equipment here to turn the plastic into packaging, though?

 

[RodgerDodger]

I don't power level, but I do know about an 80-person IT team that was relocated from inside a hospital at a major Federal agency. They are moving non-medical personnel temporarily to other buildings, and they won't be allowed on campus after about a month.

Staff relocation appears to be the best way to understand what's going on with emergency response. Someone should make an index listing the average distance of IT workers from each hospital, that will probably reveal how prepared any particular facility is.

Look, given what we already know, off-siting any non-clinical personnel from the major Hospital's is actually a very forward thinking and intelligent thing to do. we know this thing is virulent. We know that it's biggest vector in forming a new nexus is when it gets into the Healthcare providers. So get anyone that is not needed for the delivery of clinical care out of that path so they don't become disease vectors unnecessarily. It also has the add on benefit of freeing up some real estate within the hospital to create surge rooms. Yeah everybody talking about negative pressure isolation rooms etc? Yeah throw that right out the fucking window. We are months past that. The hospital patients are going to be cross exposed to some degree. No way around it. The trick will be trying to limit those in a given facility to just the injected that need advanced care to recover. Newer hospitals can isolate between floors, even when they can't do individual rooms on a given floor. That will help.

 

[pwnest injun]

Prevotella <- The thing that's carrying the Coronavirus.

Not exactly. It's not carrying CoV. Prevotella is already there, in your lungs, doing a bad job of eating you. CoV isn't a Bacteriophage or anything like that. What the virus is doing is damaging the lining of lung cells so that the Prevotella bacteria can adhere to them better and chow down. It's a complementary effect. But, yes, if you have covid, you should take amoxicillin to try to keep these little fuckers from scarring up your lungs, forever.

Look, given what we already know, off-siting any non-clinical personnel from the major Hospital's is actually a very forward thinking and intelligent thing to do. we know this thing is virulent. We know that it's biggest vector in forming a new nexus is when it gets into the Healthcare providers. So get anyone that is not needed for the delivery of clinical care out of that path so they don't become disease vectors unnecessarily. It also has the add on benefit of freeing up some real estate within the hospital to create surge rooms. Yeah everybody talking about negative pressure isolation rooms etc? Yeah throw that right out the fucking window. We are months past that. The hospital patients are going to be cross exposed to some degree. No way around it. The trick will be trying to limit those in a given facility to just the injected that need advanced care to recover. Newer hospitals can isolate between floors, even when they can't do individual rooms on a given floor. That will help.

Time for a return to home care and doctor's visits, imo. Decentralize.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

I might be late on this but, holy shit. Has anyone else seen what the Q boomers are posting online about this virus. They believe it's not real at all. I knew they were a special breed of crazy but I would've thought they would understand the gravity of the situation. I thought for sure their would be a large overlap of Qtards and preppers but apparently not. To them this is caused by 5G being run by George Soros. When they start dropping dead they probably still call it a hoax. I'm sorry if I am rambling, I am just flabbergasted at this level of derangement. Giving boomers the internet was a mistake.

Trust the plan

Hey libtard! Didn't you know the virus is FAKE NEWS spread by the mainstream media; Imagine worrying about a FLU of all things.

Spoiler

Obviously the mainstream media will politicize it, but outright pretending it doesn't exist because it might be bad news for Trump is retarded damage control

 

[Coleslaw]

God why is 4chan so cancer? Whenever people post obvious bait about the coronavirus people immediately jump to it.
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I miss the 8.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Do we already have the equipment here to turn the plastic into packaging, though?

This is just anecdotal, but I know of one old client that used to be in the packaging business before it went overseas. He's still got at least 16 machines from his Mississippi plant shrink wrapped in a warehouse on his ranch. He could never sell them because they aren't the latest and greatest. But they still work. And he's kept in touch with some of his old people.

 

[Pomeranian bitch]

So kids since science education across the world sucks shit and nobody knows how these things work, let me tell you how these test kits work after seeing an image of one. I've got the basics.

There are 2 ways we can test you for this at the moment:

Real Time Polymerase Chain Reaction - Probably the most sure fire way. We take your blood sample, look for dna of the virus and then amplify that DNA. This is a whole big process that requires a machine the size of a desktop tower and a laptop, but needs to be done at a lab. It amplifies DNA and we can tell how much you've got. The problem is this is slow and will take about one hour per person, is costly and requires all sorts of reagents. I don't know if like you have multiple plate reading rt PCR machines but if any does have them it's the cdc.

Enzyme-Linked Immuno Absorbent Assay (ELISA) - We have anti-Corona virus antibodies, typically grown up in a rabbit or another animal. A goat or some shit. It depends. We have your sample. Then we have this plate that has antibodies with a fluorescent marker for the corona virus antibodies. The anti corona virus antibodies bind to the corona virus antibodies which bind to the virus in your sample. If the corona virus antibodies, the anti-Corona virus antibodies with the marker and the corona virus all come together for a fuck party, they glow. Well, too small for the invisible eye. But we collect this plate and chuck it in a spectrophotometer. The amount of glow, the worse off it is. Both of the above require expensive pieces of equipment and labs. The PCR test is easier since I don't have to fucking dilute a 96 well plate.

Reading what the CDC is doing, they're doing rtPCR tests which is why they're taking so fucking long and testing so few and why you have to send them to their labs. There's no simple sereological agglutination test. It also might be why the kits are fucking up. Sample collection might be wrong or being stored at Room Temp when RT PCR reagents typically need a freezer. And also why they're crazy expensive. They can also fuck up shipping them.

Science isn't magic. Remember, we're growing corona virus antibodies by pumping a rabbit full of the virus and extracting them (don't fret this is how we make antibodies kids).

We don't have a simple agglutination test yet, so you have to remember we're still trying to figure everything out, which is why there are definitely far more cases than we know.

Kiwis like you are a god send but I think regarding the test capacities, they definitely can test the 96 at a time, the wells just have to be fully loaded, in fact there are some thermocyclers that can run plates with 384 wells at a time which would shorten test times. The test normally takes about 1 hour and a half to run.

 

[WonderWino]

Bill Gates calls coronavirus a 'once-in-a-century' pathogen

UPDATE 1-Bill Gates calls coronavirus a 'once-in-a-century' pathogen

Philanthropist Bill Gates on Friday urged wealthy nations to help low and middle-income countries strengthen their health systems in hopes of slowing the spread of the coronavirus, which Gates said has started to behave like a "once-in-a-century" pathogen.

www.reuters.com

CHICAGO, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Philanthropist Bill Gates on Friday urged wealthy nations to help low and middle-income countries strengthen their health systems in hopes of slowing the spread of the coronavirus, which Gates said has started to behave like a “once-in-a-century” pathogen.

“By helping countries in Africa and South Asia get ready now,” we can save lives and also slow the global circulation of this virus,” Gates, the former chairman and chief executive of Microsoft Corp, wrote in an editorial in the New England Journal of Medicine.

The novel coronavirus that first emerged in China and has now spread to 46 countries is much harder to stop than similar viruses that caused the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) or Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), Gates wrote. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has already pledged $100 million to fight the outbreak.

Gates’ plea was echoed on Friday by the World Health Organization, which said the risk was very high that the virus would spread and have a global impact.

The WHO implored governments to swing into action to contain the virus before it becomes widespread. Such actions could slow the virus, giving nations more time to prepare, officials said.

“Health systems around the world are just not ready,” Dr. Mike Ryan, head of the WHO emergencies program, told a news briefing.

Gates said the world needs to invest in disease surveillance and better technology to accelerate the development of safe and effective vaccines and drugs.

Besides technical solutions, Gates called for better diplomatic efforts to drive international collaboration and data sharing, and increased government spending on drugs and vaccines that would give private companies incentives to take up such efforts.

Once in a century? I guess he forgot about SARS then. That ended up causing a global panic and being a nothing burger in the end as well, just like this one will in the end

 

[Ahriman]

US Army soldier tests positive for COVID-19 in South Korea, marking the first time a US service member is confirmed to have the disease

The 23-year-old unnamed male soldier is in "self-quarantine" at an off-base residence, the US military said in a statement.

www.businessinsider.com

Here is what the US military is doing to defend troops from the coronavirus In Korea and elsewhere

In South Korea, where a US soldier tested positive for the coronavirus, the military banned dining out, hitting bars, or going to the movies.

www.businessinsider.com

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[XYZpdq]

If y'all really think it's gonna kill everybody you'd offer to eat your mask if it doesn't.
I, user XYZpdq, being of as sound mind as I'm going to be, hereby wager that if I die from Winnie The Flu then I will eat a protective mask.

Ball's in your court motherfuckers.