Biden projected as winner in South Carolina, halting momentum of front-runner Sanders

Biden projected as winner in South Carolina, halting momentum of front-runner Sanders

Biden projected as winner in South Carolina, halting momentum of front-runner Sanders

Joe Biden was projected to win South Carolina's Democratic primary on Satur...

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GREENVILLE, S.C (Reuters) - Joe Biden was projected to win South Carolina’s Democratic primary on Saturday, reviving his faltering White House campaign and halting the surge of national front-runner Bernie Sanders, who appeared headed to a distant second-place finish.

Television networks and Edison Research, which conducted exit polls in South Carolina, projected Biden as the winner as soon as voting closed in the Southern state. Exit polls showed the former vice president beating Sanders among a wide range of demographic and ideological groups.

Biden needed a decisive win in South Carolina, where his popularity among black voters proved decisive in a state where more than half of the Democratic electorate is black, after poor showings in the first two nominating contests in Iowa and New Hampshire.

The win gives him new momentum as the Democratic race to find a challenger to Republican President Donald Trump now broadens quickly, with Super Tuesday primaries in 14 states that will award one-third of the available national delegates in a single day.

Sanders, a progressive U.S. senator from Vermont who had become the national front-runner, appeared likely to finish second in the state. Tom Steyer, a billionaire-turned-activist who spent heavily in South Carolina, appeared likely to finish third.

Nearly eight of 10 voters in South Carolina said they have a favorable view of Biden, compared with five of 10 who see rival Sanders favorably, exit polls showed. The polls also found about six of 10 of South Carolina voters said influential black congressman James Clyburn’s endorsement of Biden on Wednesday was a factor in their decision.

About half want a candidate who will return to Democratic President Barack Obama’s policies, a key argument of Biden, who was Obama’s vice president.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

And this is why we'll never have a libertarian president. Sad!

I dunno, depends on if we can purge the rest of the Neocons out of the GOP and send them over to the Democrats.

 

[Unpleasant]

I'm sure the spin machine will be in overdrive pretending that SC is now the best representative of the nation, but the DNC will do nothing to stop from fucking Bernie.

Honestly I think Biden is their best bet nationally- he's inoffensive enough (aside from sniffing every small child he comes across) to not damage downballot prospects like Sanders would. He's also weak enough that when he loses in the general the dems can just write it off, like the Repubs did with running lukewarm conservative Romney in 2012. Legitimizing Bernie means having to support him, and having to wear and own the socialist label.

 

[Ow The Edge]

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Which defeat would be more devastating for Bernie bros? Losing the DNC primary again? Or getting bitch slapped by that orange bully?

The later, as it would prove the DNC right all along.

I still feel like Bernie is the most likely, only because the field is so divided. The Democrats need to get the rest of the losers out now to stop him. Also, I think nominating Bloomberg would backfire massively.

 

[FunPosting101]

One. How many fucking Carolinas are there. And two. Why do we need so many!

I can literally hear Biden saying this right now, lol.

 

[HumanHive]

I dunno, depends on if we can purge the rest of the Neocons out of the GOP and send them over to the Democrats.

But if your starting premise is "we have no loyalty and will abandon any longstanding coalition the moment we feel like we can make a scramble for third ticket", nobody ends up wanting to make a coalition with you anymore. Instead of being respected and counted on for small government policies, you get treated as a disloyal "legalize heroin" crazyman party. Meanwhile neocons end up getting purged by the new Trumpist sect who wants the rest of the world to pay for its own defense. That could have been the libertarians, and should have been.

And the "legalize heroin" thing is not a mere joke. I just ran into a guy wearing a "cops support legal heroin, ask me why" shirt. And while libertarians can have that view, if that's the first thing the average voter sees; they will never listen to any of your other views.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

But if your starting premise is "we have no loyalty and will abandon any longstanding coalition the moment we feel like we can make a scramble for third ticket",

Yeah but we know from the past 20 years of GOP that they will abandon any longstanding coalition if they think it will get get them a Minority voter and a taco.

Edit : Let me put it this way, The Republicans Voted 70+ times to repeal Obamacare when Obama was in his second term, each time Obama Veto'd it. When Trump got in they have managed to pass it exactly 0 times.

Why should I be Loyal to people who pull that shit?

 

[Ow The Edge]

Tonight's winner enjoys his moment in the sun:

 

[Unpleasant]

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You know, I can appreciate the metric and what the data means, but isn't it pointlessly silly to have running totals of the chances of a candidate winning an event that relies on multiple relatively independent events on different days throughout a primary season? What is the usefulness of a graph that says "if every eligible voter voted today here is how they would vote, oh and by the way it changes constantly and therefore is an unrealistic answer to an unrealistic question".

I suppose I just dislike the hubris of statisticians like Nate Silver, who formulate a model, but then continue to correct it and refine it based on inputs over time that aren't derivative from prior predictions, but from more chaotic and human factors. It's as if you just keep updating your graphs until the very end, changing your projections day by day, and then you pretend to be right all along when in reality you may have only predicted a week or so out based on much more immediate factors than a long term statistical model. But you always make sure to hide one blog post or article saying "but THIS is how the other guy COULD win!" Just so when you do fuck up the predictions you've been trying to forecast for months you can fall back on the lame excuse that you never really said anything substantive and still gave the dark horse a fighting chance, as if the polls are a matter of gambling math and odds, when they are anything but.

Something something lies damn lies and statistics

 

[Shield Breaker]

Which defeat would be more devastating for Bernie bros? Losing the DNC primary again? Or getting bitch slapped by that orange bully?

Losing the general would destroy the lie that Bernie wouldn't drive people away. However, he'd be an albatross on the markets for the duration of his run.

 

[HumanHive]

Yeah but we know from the past 20 years of GOP that they will abandon any longstanding coalition if they think it will get get them a Minority voter and a taco.

Edit : Let me put it this way, The Republicans Voted 70+ times to repeal Obamacare when Obama was in his second term, each time Obama Veto'd it. When Trump got in they have managed to pass it exactly 0 times.

Why should I be Loyal to people who pull that shit?

The neocon Yeb faction is long dead, dude.

On your edit: fair point.

 

[Kornheiser]

Does Bernie think he can ignore pastors in the south in order to win? If he does he is dumber than I thought.

 

[Iron Hamster]

Looks like a massive win for Biden, he's out polling Bernie 2 to 1

I cant wait to see how the Bernie Bots try to swing this news. Is it more DNC rigging or was the primary itself pointless cause Sanders will sweep super-Tuesday.

Inquiring minds want to know!

Pundits have been saying this would be the result for two weeks.

The real story is that my man Yang is still in the race. Tardbux for all! #yanggang2020
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Live tracker from The AP

lol. Where's Bloomberg?

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

The neocon Yeb faction is long dead, dude.

On your edit: fair point.

4 Years is not "long dead" and if you think for a second Mitch and Lindsey wouldn't stab Trump in the back the first moment it was actually good for them you haven't paid attention to anything that happened during the Obama years.

 

[Shield Breaker]

I wonder what it is about Sanders that SC blacks don’t like? What is it about Biden do they love?

He's an atheist Jew. Black people don't like either.

 

[Stoneheart]

Tonight's winner enjoys his moment in the sun:

Is he in Africa?

 

[Hucklejo]

Lol is there seriously not even enough data for Bloomberg to place in the tracker? Hoooly shit the money this man is wasting.

Edit: Thanks for the corrections that followed that he wasn't on the ballot here. Less humorous .

 

[Jump]

lol. Where's Bloomberg?

He isn't on the ballot in SC.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Is he in Africa?

Lets see..A White man on a chair higher than a buck of Black people, holding his hands out as if he were ruling them. Could be Africa.

lol. Where's Bloomberg?

His check didn't clear before the ballots were printed.

 

[Beavis]

Lol is there seriously not even enough data for Bloomberg to place in the tracker? Hoooly shit the money this man is wasting.

Bloomberg isn’t in until Tuesday.