2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Hell, unless this is Captain Trips, it is going to fuck the democrats for pushing open borders and globalization.
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If only there were a major contender who's against the latter, and could very well be dissembling his newfound views on the former to increase appeal...
 
The Corona Virus may play into Trump's favor, as the whole thing just proves his point about Chiynah and the problems of globalization. People in a panic typically stick to the familiar and the coolest head in the room. Yes, it looks like we are heading for a resession due to the virus. However so long as employment stays relatively low and people can still collect pay checks, he should be fine going into 2020, even with stock market nose dive and slow down.
 
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Well, it really depending on how bad the situation becomes. The worse the outbreak evolves globally, the worse the US economy become, which will bode ill for his re-election chances. If the outbreak explodes exponentially like in South Korea, Italy and Iran, it will push healthcare to the forefront of the agenda and it will help the Democrat, whoever that may be.

The only way it doesn't hurt him is if it does die in the warming, sunnier conditions in the months ahead, where he can lord it over his opponents.
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I don't think it hurts him. 'A virus out of China spread to every continent, became a pandemic, plunging the world's economy into recession. Better vote for the socialist!' That logic makes no sense except to people who were already opposed to Trump.

If it gets that out of control, most reasonable people will rightly conclude that sometimes shit happens.
 
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two in a row
 
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Did anyone catch Bernie's comments on Israel? So much for non-interventionism huh? All he'd do is finger wag at Likud and virtue signal about Palestinians (while ignoring when the liberal party does the same things to them).
He's 1000% a zionist and the Judeo-left is still all about "protecting are greatest ally" at the cost of American lives. Never trust a Jewish politician (or for that matter a politician with Jewish family like Trump) to stand up to Israel.
How will you pay for healthcare with open borders and Israel wars (AND probably gibs for the palestinians too), bro?
 
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I don’t see how coronavirus makes him more likely to lose against a Democrat. Coronavirus is the exact scenario he said globalism would wreak, especially our dependence on China. M4A would fall flat on its face because Europe is struggling against the pandemic too. Unless Democrats go full closed borders nationalism, coronavirus is a losing issue for them.
 
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I don’t see how coronavirus makes him more likely to lose against a Democrat. Coronavirus is the exact scenario he said globalism would wreak, especially our dependence on China. M4A would fall flat on its face because Europe is struggling against the pandemic too. Unless Democrats go full closed borders nationalism, coronavirus is a losing issue for them.
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Traditionally it's viewed that bad things happening on the leader's watch makes the leader look bad even if he doesn't have a direct hand in it, so I can understand the idea that if everything goes to shit he could be stuck with it, but like I said I get the impression that by this point there's not much that could happen to make anybody change their minds about orange man for or against.
Things go to shit? It's globalism and open borders/Trump being an asshole to the globe's fault. There's more than enough room for each team to blame the other team and not reconsider their position. Healthcare sucks at stopping it? #thanksobama/the GOP never came up with a better plan.
Maybe if he can do a victory lap after successfully using the crisis to kickstart American manufacturing for the world or some crazy shit could get some people going for him, but that's a big pile of if and not really worth considering.
 
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NeoGAF Lurker said:
I don’t see how coronavirus makes him more likely to lose against a Democrat. Coronavirus is the exact scenario he said globalism would wreak, especially our dependence on China. M4A would fall flat on its face because Europe is struggling against the pandemic too. Unless Democrats go full closed borders nationalism, coronavirus is a losing issue for them.
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The goods shortages that result from China being shut down by the virus could easily cause an economic recession, which is the only feasible way Trump could lose to the Democrats in 2020, especially if Bernie somehow survives the ratfucking and campaigns on his platform of free shit for everyone.

Usually a recession is the best way to unseat an incumbent in a presidential election. Part of why Bill Clinton was able to defeat Bush Sr. was because of a minor recession in 1992, which helped lend credence to Clinton's campaign platform of "It's the economy, stupid!"

Even then, the kind of economic recession caused by the coronavirus is one of those things that could happen in a month or could be something that nobody on the street would even notice until after the election, and the recession could also be a mild one like the 2001 recession that coincided with the dot com bubble bursting or it could be 2008 all over again. It's one of those things that's hard to predict because of all the variables within it.
 
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Remember that normie Repubs don't have to be dissuaded from voting Trump again, all that's needed is for a greater proportion of centrist voters in swing states to think "I guess the democrat is better..."

I don't care what you guys say about how Bernie is such a hypocrite who flip-flops his views, because Hillary was infinitely worse in that regard, which probably made a bunch of typically blue left-of-center voters vote for blumpf. (I mean, where was she during the civil rights movement?) Adding a corona-induced recession to the whole Bernie-isn't-Hillary factor could very well tip the scale.
 
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Remember that normie Repubs don't have to be dissuaded from voting Trump again, all that's needed is for a greater proportion of centrist voters in swing states to think "I guess the democrat is better..."

I don't care what you guys say about how Bernie is such a hypocrite who flip-flops his views, because Hillary was infinitely worse in that regard, which probably made a bunch of typically blue left-of-center voters vote for blumpf. (I mean, where was she during the civil rights movement?) Adding a corona-induced recession to the whole Bernie-isn't-Hillary factor could very well tip the scale.
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ehh, Bush Sr got brought up a minute ago, but he also had Perot, so you had a real candidate talking economics and a spoiler talking economics against READ MY LIPS _and_ a recession, so there's a lot to go with beyond "a recession".
Obviously if the dems want to have any fucking chance they had better get every attack ad that said "BUT IT ONLY HELPED WALL STREET" redone to say "BUT YOUR 401K DIED" as-of yesterday, but there's still a long way to go to see how this plays out by Novemberish. If the engine's going again by August I can't see a recession being super effective in the election, because there's plenty of time to take credit for getting back on track so fast. And even then we still have the issue of Literal Socialist Comrade Bernie or The Asshole The Dems Ratfucked Bernie For, both of whom have their own baggage to the theoretical swing voter.
I don't think there's much room for this to really be a major impact to make people change their minds.
 
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