Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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The big thunk is, if it was just a regular flue, why the ever loving Winnie the Pooh are chingchongs freaking out so much because of it?
Shortly after his government announced they would re-write the Bible and Quran China began suffering plagues (COVID-19, outbreak of swine flu, outbreak of bird flu), locusts and an earthquake.
This is still a thing in Chinese culture-
 
China still has better health care, or at least more, than slavsquat country.

And they shit on human.... well yellow locust lives. So for them to try and contain something instead of just shrugging off the casaulities, shit has to be bad.

It exploded too fast, and they don't have the resources. So they stop everything, and hope to engineer a foolproof gook path to get shit running again.
 
There's a lot of reports lately that mysteriously leave out the age and pre-existing illnesses of the people...
I know for some of them the government/hospital slowly gives details. The press will know right away that someone died or got infected ans blare that shit right away, but it'll take a day before they give other details out like the Florida cases.


Edit: "Its just the flu bro" thoughts
The flu can fuck you up, but for the average user of the site the odds are in their favor that they're just going to experience a shitass 2-3 weeks rather than a hospital visit. Those who are immunocompromised, elderly, smoke, or live with people who are have more to worry about, as are those who live paycheck to paycheck and can't take time off. I get the panic from them more than I do some of the more healthy people in this chat. Preparing is good, fretting yourself into a stressed rut so you increase your vulnerability to colds and flus by stressing your body is counterproductive.

It's the flu we dont have a vaccine for. The odds are in most people's favor, but its ok to be concerned and prepared for our loved ones and ourselves.
 
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I dunno, how is it that your kind is somehow able to maintain delusions of intellectual superiority while being ostracized, marginalized, and doing absolutely nothing but losing and being turned into a joke for the past 5 decades? Dunning-Kruger is a hell of a drug.
You don't know what 'my kind' is but I will cherish this forever-
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It exploded too fast, and they don't have the resources. So they stop everything, and hope to engineer a foolproof gook path to get shit running again.

But they are the nation that has the most human resources. The one that can absorb the most casaulities. That is the scary part. China worrying about having enough citizens is like Israel worrying about becoming bankrupt.
 
Or you could
Discovering new drugs costs terrifying amounts of money
Cut down some of the red tape, especially around the part where, terminally ill people can't volunteer to be tested on with drugs in development. It could cut down costs and time significantly.
Once it’s patented you have 15 years or so to make bank
to hell with patent law
Allow my inner lolbert to offset your communist suggestion, just throw IP and patent law out the window. To hell with patent law, for everything.
 
Ireland's chief medical officer lying to a journalists face when he accidentally let slip on national TV that it was a kid who contracted the virus. Why they're still trying to keep it a secret is beyond me, when the parents in the school were notified it was all over the internet within an hour.



















It also seems that the French government has decided to requisition all face masks

 
Iran is on the fast track to the bone zone.
They just walked right into that one. Iran's government is just embarrassing.
I wouldnt be surprised if this is the final straw that breaks the camel's back on their current regime and things start to get messy after it hits most of the population.
 
The first Berlin corona patient showed atypical symptoms

The first Berlin corona patient was diagnosed "by accident" on Sunday. The young man, who claims that he had suffered from cold symptoms for a few weeks, got a travel vaccination at the Tropical Medicine Center in Berlin-Mitte on Saturday. During the night on Sunday, his condition worsened a lot, he looked disoriented. His roommates therefore informed the ambulance service that brought him to the Charité.

The medical director responsible for medical care there, Ulrich Frei, told the press that the positive corona test was a "coincidence". Because the complaints with which the young man had been brought in did not indicate an infection with the new virus: he was feverish, complained of body aches and still looked disoriented.

Charité employees initially suspected meningitis, then tested for influenza. Since the infections in North Rhine-Westphalia last week, however, the Charité has been testing the coronavirus as standard if it is suspected of having influenza. That now benefited the young man. "Without this internal regulation of running a parallel test, the patient would still be undetected at home," says Frei.

The patient had already been sent home on Sunday afternoon when the influenza test returned negative. In the evening the surprise: Sars-CoV-2. The clinic then informed the responsible health department, which sent an official doctor to the infected person, who was then taken back to the clinic. The health department finally identified 60 contact persons of the young man who are currently being tested for the coronavirus and quarantined them, including eight Charité employees.

It is not known where the patient was infected.

Excellent. I too am aching and dizzy with a bit of a cough and a runny nose. Corona-chan, is that you? I hope not because I set the table for our weekly Monday breakfast meeting at work yesterday.
 
They just walked right into that one. Iran's government is just embarrassing.
I wouldnt be surprised if this is the final straw that breaks the camel's back on their current regime and things start to get messy after it hits most of the population.
Weren't there a yuge amount of protests about how much the citizens really really hated Solomani last month? Those still going on?
 
They just walked right into that one. Iran's government is just embarrassing.
I wouldnt be surprised if this is the final straw that breaks the camel's back on their current regime and things start to get messy after it hits most of the population.
If enough of Iran’s leadership, including Khamenei and the secret police, die then yes. It’s possible, at the bare minimum hopefully the most religious die leaving more secular people to start taking over.
 
This only makes me feel more justified in telling kids to wash their filthy hands for years all the more. Even now, when we use common equipment and terminals all day between people everyone's picking their nose and jamming their fingers in their mouth like a bunch of monkeys. If 'panic' has set in and this is how people act that old mobile game made it too hard to wipe out humanity.
 
The big thunk is, if it was just a regular flue, why the ever loving Winnie the Pooh are chingchongs freaking out so much because of it?

They aren't tho? Quarantine is a natural step, even if it encompasses huge amounts of people. From the beginning China's government has had an incredibly meh attitude towards it and used the WHO to try to make a point that 'everything was fine'.

Panic would be locking down the country and wiping out cities where the virus has taken root.

The governments are keeping a lid on it like China for most.

There are a few factors we need to know:
- How virulent is it?
- How deadly is it?

- Are any of its "hacks" true? Like can it spread by aerosolisation, reinfect, hide in other tissue or live off bacteria, cause cyto immune stuff bogaloo and all that.

They're not really though. Studies have been doing a slow trickle since it began but unless those are peer-reviewed and facts confirmed by scientific means they only give you an idea of what's happening. Results would have to be replicated and confirmed. The government(s) of the world are not going to throw their backing on anything that isn't 100% confirmed when it comes to a virus like this because they'll have to keep walking back or changing the information as more becomes available. It would cause more confusion than help. There's aspects we can make safe assumptions on and they may go that route, but at the end of the day there's a lot of what if(s) that will take time to confirm or deny and there's going to be outliers in every population that get it differently from everyone else.

It's easier and safer to point out the things they know work; wash / sanitize your hands frequently. Avoid hugely populated areas. Be aware of your surroundings. Watch for cases in your area. Cover your coughs and sneezes. Stock up in case of quarantine. Stay home if you are sick. If you've been to a place with a known outbreak and have symptoms contact medical support from home vs. possibly infecting a whole hospital. Etc.

You cannot tell how virulent or deadly an outgoing outbreak is until it's mostly over. You can guesstimate and you can tell how deadly it is among those with severe symptoms who sought medical treatment but you can't know how bad it truly is unless you look at the outbreak post it's end. Given how it's spreading there's probably way more people who had it mildly or didn't show any symptoms at all. So if you tested all of Wuhan post the outbreak and found 100,000(s) of people with the antibodies for it, suddenly your X% death rate tanks because way more people had it but were completely fine.

From what I see coming out of governments around the world, the problem is either relatively mild overall but still needs to be dealt with or its a big problem that they cant really deal with.

The reason I am placing this situation in those two categories is if it is a mild situation causing panic and market destabilization is stupid.

If it is a big problem that they cant deal with it, where no matter what we do we are screwed it is stupid to cause panic and market destabilization early.

If the problem was in-between we would most likely see a strong preemptive effort to curb a medium problem from becoming a large one.

Big or Small, it doesn't really matter when it comes to the economic repercussions.

We've talked about the economy a lot in this thread but the fact remains that even the richest people are shit out of luck on this front when you consider it. Pulling your money out isn't really going to help you because this isn't like a war or something where you can leave one market and go to the next. Disease is a great equalizer because you can't just run from it. There's no real benefit because your money won't be able to save you from something that nobody can really control.
 
Are there any recovered people that have talked about it or profiles on mild cases or recovered people that can reveal in depth info?
These are the first two articles I found on it.

Haven't found testimonies though. It seems like most people are experiencing mild enough symptoms that they dont go to the doctor.
 
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