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No you aren’t, that’s basically what vaccines are. The body needs to ‘see’ the bits of the virus that are antigenic ( the bits we make antibodies to.) You either weaken the virus and show it to the body (attenuated virus vaccine like MMR) or kill it (dead virus vaccines like whooping cough) and show it to the body. Or, in many newer systems, you just show the specific proteins or bits or even the toxins produced . The immune system responds, and has memory cells that file away and remember what they have seen. Next time you see it they have a head start.
So can we do it with this particular virus or are they too recent a discovery? Read a lot about variolation and Jenner, fascinating how people knew what to do even if they weren't sure why it worked exactly.
 
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No you aren’t, that’s basically what vaccines are. The body needs to ‘see’ the bits of the virus that are antigenic ( the bits we make antibodies to.) You either weaken the virus and show it to the body (attenuated virus vaccine like MMR) or kill it (dead virus vaccines like whooping cough) and show it to the body. Or, in many newer systems, you just show the specific proteins or bits or even the toxins produced . The immune system responds, and has memory cells that file away and remember what they have seen. Next time you see it they have a head start.
If exposure to a virus helps the organism develop natural immunity, then what's up with reports (rumors? I can't pinpoint a specific case right now, but I've seen people saying these things multiple times in this thread) of coronavirus patients getting reinfected soon after recovery and suffering cardiac complications?
 
So can we do it with this particular virus or are they too recent a discovery? Read a lot about variolation and Jenner, fascinating how people knew what to do even if they weren't sure why it worked exactly.
It’s the whole “can we deactivate it or does it need to be killed” part. That takes testing And then figuring out how to do that. That takes testing. Then there’s manufacturing it, in great enough doses. Which is not as easy as, say, manufacturing a chemical compound for a new drig.

Hell, half the time the flu vaccine that is given out ends up pointless because a different strain ended up being the major one. See this year.
 
WA. Sen. Murray decries 'unacceptable' lack of clarity on coronavirus testing

I spoilered a timeline that a local website has put together since Monday morning
Ongoing strain from the continued spread of coronavirus continues to put pressure on everything from King County’s hospitals to grocery stores.

Read more about all of the cases in Washington state
Tuesday

9:54am – The U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services Seattle Field Office near Tukwila will be closed for the next two weeks due to concerns over coronavirus.The decision was made after an employee visited the LifeCare Center in Kirkland, the nursing home where several people have already contracted the virus. It came without notice to many today, who had hoped to complete their naturalization process at the office Tuesday.
“When we got to the front of the building, there was a notice posted just saying the offices were closed for the day with no explanation,” said Fiona Robertson, who had traveled over an hour to finish her year-long naturalization process, only to be turned away at the door.

8:59am – The University of Washington Medical Center is now offering testing for coronavirus.

“We are working very closely with our colleagues, both our local public health jurisdictions, the Department of Health, and the Northwest Health Care Response Network — we have been having almost daily phone calls,” said the hospital’s chief medical officer, Dr. Tim Dellit.


UW is also joining the effort to develop a coronavirus vaccine, although most agree that we’re at least a year out before it can be distributed.

7:28am – Washington Sen. Patty Murray addressed the U.S. Senate Health Committee Tuesday morning, detailing what she dubs an “unacceptable” lack of clarity surrounding testing for coronavirus.

Specifically, Murray pointed toward the ambiguous process for getting tested, and the lengthy wait times for results.

“The people across my state are really scared — I’m hearing from people who are sick, who want to get tested, and don’t know where to go,” she described. “It’s unacceptable that people in my state can’t even get an answer as to whether or not they are infected.”

“It’s only after a long frustrating delay that we’re able to test patients,” she added.

It’s unclear at this time when scaled-up testing will be available in Washington. In the days ahead, Murray intimated the need for more resources.


“We’ve got to provide adequate resources to meet needs,” she noted. “Resources are absolutely critical, but also were never envisioned to be sufficient to respond to a threat like this.”

6:25am – A handful of Seattle are companies are taking measures to curb the spread of coronavirus at the corporate level.

REI has closed its offices in Kent, Georgetown, and Bellevue for two days after being notified of two incidents of potential exposure. That has nearly 1,800 employees working remotely while offices are being scrubbed down.

T-Mobile is also restricting business travel, while encouraging workers to look into “alternative work options” if they’re feeling sick.

5:34am – Many grocery stores continue to report shortages of toilet paper, disinfectant wipes, and hand sanitizer, across Seattle, Kirkland, Lynnwood, and more. This is a trend that began over the weekend, when Costco locations across the region were flooded by shoppers.


Meanwhile, a lengthy story of one Seattle patient’s ultimately fruitless quest to get tested for coronavirus began to circulate around Twitter Monday night. The patient reported being put on hold for 40 minutes, further calls to two separate primary care doctors, and then a transfer to the COVID-19 hotline, where she was informed she did not qualify for testing despite exhibiting coronavirus symptoms.

“Even this early in the outbreak, our hospitals are feeling the strain,” Director of Public Health Patty Hayes said Monday.

Monday
10:35pm – Students at the University of Washington Seattle campus are asking the university president to cancel classes to help prevent the spread of coronavirus. As of Monday night, an online petition had 13,656 signatures.

“In classrooms, dining halls and during other crowded areas, the virus will inevitably infect people thus increasing the infection rate exponentially,” the petition states.


6:13pm – A handful of schools are closed for coronavirus precautions on Tuesday. Check here for updates.

5:55pm –
Dr. Steve Weinrauch, the chief veterinary officer with Seattle-based pet insurance Trupanion, said animal lovers can rest assured — there is no reason to think Fluffy or Spot could catch coronavirus or spread the disease to you or other animals.

“There is no evidence to suggest that cats or other pets can contract or spread COVID-19 or the coronavirus,” Weinrauch said. Read more

5:11pm –
Dr. Chris Spitters, health officer for the Snohomish Health District, said coronavirus is very much like the flu. He said the virus likely started in bats and eventually made its way to humans. Eight people are pending test results in Snohomish County. Officials reported six deaths so far in Washington state.

Spitters said we all need to wash hands and stay home if we’re feeling sick, even if you’re unsure what you might be sick with.


“If you don’t need to go to a crowed place, think twice about that,” Spitters said.

“We’re going to continue all of our efforts to work with the local health care community,” said Shawn Frederick, administrative officer for the Snohomish Health District.

County Executive Dave Somers said they’re drafting an emergency declaration to help streamline resources.

Somers said he spoke with Senator Patty Murray Monday morning about mobilizing federal resources. They’re also working closely with the state, other counties, and cities across Snohomish County.

“We’re trying to make sure our response is appropriate and effective,” Somers said.

Everett Mayor Cassie Franklin said they’re focused on prevention. She emphasized hand washing and staying home if you feel sick.

School closures to date have been at the discretion of each district, Dr. Spitters said.


4:39pm – Health officials in Snohomish County will hold a news conference at 5pm on the status of coronavirus in the county. Currently, there are four reported cases of the virus, including one death and one recovery.

3:07pm- Gov. Inslee announces the state is increasing its capacity to test patients for coronavirus. “Our priority now is to slow the spread of this virus,” Inslee said in a news conference on Monday. The governor said we all have a responsibility to take precautions, such as washing hands, avoiding handshakes, and staying home from work if you feel sick.

He then addressed people who may have gone to work on Monday despite feeling under the weather.

“Go home and take care of yourself and try not to put others at risk. This is the hardest thing to do, I understand that,” Inslee said. “It’s perhaps the single most important thing we can do.”


The governor said the state is looking at more potential locations for quarantine sites, and is working on budgeting $100 million this year for the coronavirus response.

Inslee said we should be thinking about canceling large-scale events.

“We’re not making a formal request for events to be canceled,” the governor said.

State Superintendent Chris Reykdal said school closures are a district decision and so far, he’s very satisfied with efforts from the districts.

“To date, not a single department of health has called for a school closure,” Reykdal explained. “School districts have made that decision.”

2:00pm – Life Care Center of Kirkland, where an outbreak of coronavirus has affected residents and staff, issued the following statement:

“At Life Care Center of Kirkland, we have had several confirmed cases of COVID-19. Testing, confirmation and treatment of the virus is handled by local hospitals after patients who exhibit certain symptoms are sent from our facility to acute care centers. As such, we will defer to the local health authorities for official totals regarding COVID-19.


Current residents and associates continue to be monitored closely, specifically for an elevated temperature, cough and/or shortness of breath. Any resident displaying these symptoms is placed in isolation. Associates are screened prior to beginning work and upon leaving. We are also following infection control recommendations, including proper hand-washing techniques and wearing masks, gowns and gloves when caring for any symptomatic patients. All of these decisions have been made based on recommendations from the state health department and the CDC.

In addition to the above infection control strategies, all visits to the facility from families, volunteers or vendors are not allowed. The facility has also placed a hold on admissions, to fully focus on our current residents and associates. We encourage family members to call the facility if they have specific questions regarding their loved ones. … Our Life Care associates continue to focus on resident care, and we would like to acknowledge how dedicated they have been throughout this entire situation.”



1:39pm – King County plans to purchase of a motel to house coronavirus patients in isolation. Read more

11:36 – Health officials announce four more deaths due to coronavirus. The sixth death was at Evergreen Hospital in King County, but was a Snohomish County resident.

Also in King County, a woman in her 70s with underlying conditions died on Sunday. Another woman in her 80s was previously in critical condition, and also died Sunday. Details on the fifth death have not yet been released.

On Sunday evening, health officials announced the second death. The first death was reported on Friday.

11:30am – Seattle City Councilmember Kshama Sawant issued a letter to Mayor Jenny Durkan and King County Executive Dow Constantine Monday, pushing for free medical care for any patients with coronavirus symptoms.Read more

10:24am- Despite ongoing concerns related to the spread of coronavirus, Emerald City Comic Con will go forward as planned this year in downtown Seattle. Read more


10:05am –
Several schools around the Puget Sound region closed on Monday while crews cleaned campuses. All schools in the Northshore School District will close on Tuesday for cleaning. Read more

8am:
COVID-19, the disease caused by coronavirus, may have been spreading in Washington state for weeks undetected, according to researchers at the Seattle Flu Study. Read more

7:14am – KTTH’s Jason Rantz says it’s clear that we’re not ready for how Seattle’s out-of-control homelessness will worsen the crisis. Read more

6:03am –
Shoppers are stocking up on supplies to prepare for the potential spread of coronavirus. At a Costco in South Seattle on Saturday, customers bought up hand sanitizer and disinfecting wipes. Read more

As coronavirus continues to spread throughout Washington state, these are the cases that have been confirmed by state health officials so far.

Live Coronavirus updates: Gov. Inslee urges you to stay home if you feel sick

King County: 5 deaths, 14 total cases
  • 3/2/20 – A male in his 50s, hospitalized at Highline Hospital. No known exposures. He is in stable but critical condition. He had no underlying health conditions.
  • 3/2/20 – A male in his 70s, a resident of LifeCare, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland. The man had underlying health conditions, and died 3/1/20.
  • 3/2/20 – A female in her 70s, a resident of LifeCare, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland. The woman had underlying health conditions, and died 3/1/20.
  • 3/2/20 – A female in her 80s, a resident of LifeCare, who was already reported as in critical condition at EvergreenHealth.
  • 3/1/20- A female in her 80s, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland. The woman had underlying health conditions, and died 3/1/20.
  • 3/1/20 – A female in her 90s, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland. She was a resident at LifeCare facility in Kirkland. The woman has underlying health conditions, and is in critical condition.
  • 3/1/20 – A male in his 70s, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland. He was a resident at LifeCare facility in Kirkland. The man has underlying health conditions, and is in critical condition.
  • 3/1/20 – A male in his 70s was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth. He was a resident at LifeCare facility in Kirkland. He had underlying health conditions and died on 2/29/20.
  • 3/1/20 – A man in his 60s, hospitalized at Valley Medical Center in Renton.
  • 3/1/20 – A man in 60s, hospitalized at Virginia Mason Medical Center.
  • 2/29/20 – A woman in her 70s, who was a resident of LifeCare in Kirkland, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth.
  • 2/29/20 – A woman in her 40s, employed by LifeCare, who is hospitalized at Overlake Medical Center.
  • 2/29/20 – A man in his 50s, who was hospitalized and died at EvergreenHealth.
  • 2/28/20 – A woman in her 50s, who had traveled to South Korea; recovering at home.
Snohomish County: 1 death, 4 total cases
  • 3/2/20 – A female in her 40s, with underlying health issues, was admitted to Evergreen Hospital in King County.
  • 3/1/20 – A man in his 40s, admitted to EvergreenHealth, has died. It is unknown at this time if he had underlying health issues.
  • 2/28/20 – A Jackson High School student is at home under quarantine and reportedly doing well.
  • 1/21/20 – A man who had traveled to visit family in China fully recovered at Providence Medical Center and was released in mid-February.
Coronavirus has not yet been reported outside of King and Snohomish Counties, although health officials noted Monday, March 2 that “given the movement of people in our state, it is possible the virus is spreading to other counties too.”
 

I don't understand, 0% and 0.2% for ages 0-9 and 10-19 respectively? I thought everywhere I read about the virus that it was deadly for the elderly AND children?
 
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That shit is going to be the end of me. And Im not talking about the virus itself. All I hear on tv today is corona this that.

Heck even our national sperg party (the opposition) is blaming our President for causing Corona "because its so convenient for him to have something to prove he can defend our country against"

Also atleast 2 highly suspected cases, schoolgirls from Italy trip. Fuck.
So are they saying he sent a bunch of free bat soup to some people in China or what?

I don't understand, 0% and 0.2% for ages 0-9 and 10-19 respectively? I thought everywhere I read about the virus that it was deadly for the elderly AND children?
It's not impossible if a large percentage of deaths are due to immune reaction that the very young might be less likely to die. Most times children are worse off than adults but for a virus with cytokine storm as a reaction that may not be the case.
 
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If exposure to a virus helps the organism develop natural immunity, then what's up with reports (rumors? I can't pinpoint a specific case right now, but I've seen people saying these things multiple times in this thread) of coronavirus patients getting reinfected soon after recovery and suffering cardiac complications?

There was a man in China who went back in the hospital after being "cured" and a woman in Japan who suffered the same fate. I'm not sure about Chinese man, but Japanese woman wound up back in the hospital within two weeks. The news about them was posted in this thread maybe 100 pages ago.

Reinfection is what freaks me out the most about this. Even if reinfection isn't immediately deadly, it still would suck to basically be permanently sick, and it seems like, over time, it'll eventually kill you regardless. The body can only take so much abuse.
 
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Still part of the "better safe than sorry" strategy the UK Government's adopted which includes a tiered response but does start off with them declaring the top emergency.

Worst case scenario (Large scale barely controlled infection) will see around 400,000 dead and 1 in 5 working adults in the UK off work sick with Corona, but this is in the category of "Do like the Italians did, which was fuck all until it was too late".

Like I said earlier, NHS is prepping for war but we're still in the phony stage with 1 death (from a UK citizen who didn't live in the UK for decades) and 36 cases.

However, it's obviously prompted the UK Govt to act now and spend the dosh just in case because the Italians dropped the ball in europe on this.

Perhaps we ought to call it the "Wop Flu" seeing as we can get accurate numbers from Italy?
 
South America, Argentina
First confirmed case (on that country)


>Male in his 40's
>Came from italy

South America, chile
Also first confirmed case

>Male
>Age 33


We are fucked.



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>He came back to Chile on February 25

>It wasn't until 1 of March he felt respiratory symptoms

>Now he is isolated at Talca's hospital

>Apparently he travelled with another person

>Now we are trying to find that person to figure out how many people they had interaction with before coming to the hospital.

>It seems he is in good health conditions and the doctors want to discharge and send him to his home (self quarantine, I hope) under epidemiological surveillance.
 
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