Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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"And in a worrying sign of new community transmission of the virus, two men in their 20s are now hospitalized at the Swedish Issaquah medical center, east of Seattle, after contracting COVID-19 through an unknown exposure, the county health department says."
 
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I feel it's going to show up randomly in nursing home or a reserve one day and will produce the panic the government is so desperate to avoid.
From the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners:

Aged care must prepare for coronavirus: Experts
With older people most at risk, Australia’s aged care facilities urgently need better infection control ahead of any outbreak.
There is something strange about the coronavirus now leaping from country to country.

Based on the best available data, coronavirus is most dangerous to older people, while leaving young people all but untouched.

People aged over 80 who contract the virus have a 14.8% chance of dying from COVID-19, the associated disease, according to a large epidemiological study of 72,000 cases in China.

But in that study, no children under the age of nine died – and only one young person between 10 and 19 died. Rates of infection for young people were also very low.

That makes this coronavirus quite different to the flu, which is particularly dangerous to the very young, very old and pregnant women.

While that may come as a relief for parents, experts have told newsGP that coronavirus will pose a major challenge to Australia’s ageing population – particularly those in aged care facilities.

Around one in six Australians (16%) is now aged over 65, and coronavirus gets steadily more dangerous once you’re over 60.

The risk has led Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt to call on aged care and medical workers returning from virus-afflicted Italy or South Korea to not to return to work for 14 days.

The idea of coronavirus loose in Australian residential aged care facilities is enough to make GP and lecturer Dr Ken McCroary wince.

‘I’m just imagining some of the [aged care facilities] I go to. If it took hold, there’s no way you could quarantine it,’ he told newsGP.

‘The risk to the aged population may well be significant, particularly with a non-vaccinated population and a highly contagious respiratory droplet virus.’

Infection control is often lacking, and personal protective equipment minimal or non-existent, Dr McCroary said.

‘Where we’ve had contagions like gastro or influenza, I’ve seen it spread so quickly – and with lethal consequences in that population,’ he said.

Dr McCroary said it is now time to put education and prevention strategies in place ahead of any outbreak.

‘The whole point is to do it now rather than once we’ve had a number of facilities infected. Older people are at higher risk of the flu anyway, and it looks like we may well see increased coronavirus at the same time as the influenza peak. That would be pretty scary,’ he said.

Dr McCroary believes staff screening, as well as a lockdown on visitors, could be necessary.

‘Staff may well have to be quarantined away from the home as well. Staff as well as visitors can be carriers of the virus,’ he said.

The calls come after the US outbreak widened, with concerns centring on a nursing home in Washington state where five residents and a staff member have tested positive – with one resident dying.

The news has triggered widespread alarm among residents and their families, while the The New York Times has reported the facility has long had issues with infection control.

The virus may pose even larger issues in ageing nations like Japan, where almost 30% of the population is aged over 65.

University of Queensland virologist Ian Mackay told newsGP that aged care facilities will need to increase their vigilance by banning or restricting visitors if the virus is circulating in the community.

‘The cat is out of the bag – and has been for quite a while,’ he said. ‘This will be the fifth coronavirus that circulates widely amongst us.

‘GPs are going to have to manage a whole lot of community concern, especially from older people. There will be a lot more community angst than usual.’

Australia’s Chief Medical Officer Professor Brendan Murphy has warned that some carriers of the virus may have symptoms so mild they are unaware they are infected.

‘All of the evidence suggests people are most infectious when they are symptomatic. That is still the most important piece of advice, to isolate when you are symptomatic,’ he said in a press conference.

The infection has been mild in the vast majority of people receiving medical attention for the virus, but Associate Professor Mackay cautioned that fears around the transmissibility of the virus could be overstated.

‘It doesn’t spread as much as people think it does, it does take time and some exposure,’ he said.

‘It’s not like measles. Yes, we’ve seen large numbers and spread, but we’re talking lots of exposures and not everyone is getting infected.’
 
Second case confirmed in Ireland, a woman or girl this time who's come back from Italy recently. The government is still trying to use that bullshit "east of the country" line, there is talk of the location but I won't say until I have decent evidence (which will probably be easy to find within 24 hours, again).

Hilariously, apparently the first kid went to band practice before his test came back positive so the health service sent letters to the bandmates parents asking them to quarantine their kids. The letters leaked, obviously, and someone else in the health service didn't know about the bandmates and issued a statement calling the letters a hoax, which they had to retract when it turned out to be true.

It's a fucking circus.
 
Well we're royally fucked I'm cracking opening my japanese 5 year shochu that I bought from my first trip to Japan. I saved this for just an occasion. To get drunk and see how badly out government fucked up. Maybe if corona Chan rapes me to death everyone can enjoy the wine I have in my cellar that it is as old as me. But it wasn't a good year for wine even for Dom perigon.
 
Okay but when about when China decides to change the narrative and blame all of this on the West? And then what happens when you toe that line WHO? And then what happens when the exceptional American media also toes that line?

Whenever these fucks tell you not to do something, it's simply to give them the time they need to blame it on you.
 
For the general population I believe they’ll mostly be ok, I’m talking about the boomers out there who many have pre-existing conditions. We have 7 deaths from the nursing home alone and 2 outside...all 40+ with health problems. This is the population I’m concerned with, it’s our parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles as well as those with compromised


What kind of container do you recommend for rice storage? I bought a 25lb bag but I don’t think I can freeze it all at once, I’ll have to do it in batches using a ziploc bag. I can’t find a decent sized container, though, for after.
You can put it in the refrigerator, three days should do it. Afterward I put the sack in a bucket with a secure lid. You can put bay leaves in the rice to keep them away. I sprinkle a small amount loose tobacco (ask a friend for a cigarette) and a very fine line of boric acid in the cabinet where its stored to keep other critters away. Nicotine is highly toxic for insects, make sure any pets you have can't access it (it's toxic for animals too). Boric acid is toxic for roaches but to has to be a thin line, if its too thick they'll simply avoid it.

You can make a paste of 3 parts boric acid, powdered milk and water and stick dime sized bits along the baseboard/corners. Roaches will ingest it and die from dehydration (make sure there's no water source nearby). Again, make sure pets can't get to it.
 
The Swine Flu thing was in 2009.
there we go, that's the year. I was a kid back then so the years are starting to merge together in my memory.
I remember hearing shit like conspiracy theories that Obama engineered the virus as a biological weapon to weaken Mexico so America can continue their southwards Manifest Destiny (I even had kids who asked me if this was true since I was the token American, so that means I must have contact with America's conspiracy.
News made a big deal on how much a radical change it would be to wear masks at all times and how kids could adapt by pretending it's a game. That's as much as I can remember, since most of it was just me not going to school so I'd spend my day browsing the internet and playing video games.
 
Okay but when about when China decides to change the narrative and blame all of this on the West? And then what happens when you toe that line WHO? And then what happens when the exceptional American media also toes that line?

Whenever these fucks tell you not to do something, it's simply to give them the time they need to blame it on you.
Which annoys me because it's not really a matter of who opened Pandora's box it's a matter of how bad the chaos is. China is only giving us half truths, who is only taking what china has, my government isn't even taking it seriously; the problem isn't the disease per se, it's not knowing how bad it can be until we get legit actual stats that isn't sucking the ccps dick than I am always going to be skeptical.
 
The tally is up to 9 now.


"And in a worrying sign of new community transmission of the virus, two men in their 20s are now hospitalized at the Swedish Issaquah medical center, east of Seattle, after contracting COVID-19 through an unknown exposure, the county health department says."

Just to remind everyone. It got loose in a Washington Nursing Home. At the time 1/4 of the residents were displaying symptoms. It will be a miracle if only half of the old people in that building die. Welcome to flu season in deaths waiting room. It’s tragic, but it’s unavoidable at this point. This is why nursing homes suddenly become draconian around flu season. And no it does not mean millions will die.
 
Gladys Berejiklian: NSW cases likely to climb
Premier Gladys Berejiklian has warned the number of cases is likely to go up in the next few days.
"What is scary in this situation is that the vaccine is not yet developed but we ask everybody to stay calm, to go about business and to stay updated. The NSW Health website is giving our citizens in NSW timely information," she told Nine's Today Show this morning.
She said anyone who is feeling unwell should contact their GP or the local hospital before attending and making arrangements to get tested.
Around 3000 people in NSW have been tested and cleared of the COVID-19 virus.
AAP
My bold.

*feeling scared and calm*
 
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