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[Feline Supremacist]

Initial finding was that the CoV2 was appearing due to contact exposure -- no infection. The new finding is that the dog is hosting the virus.

Dogs get coronaviruses, cats, birds, pigs, it's nothing new. That's its zoonotic has been suspected since Wuflu was reported. The interesting question here is did the owner give the dog the virus or vice versa; also, is the dog asymptomatic?

 

[SpEd Kaczynski]

"Hong Kong health authorities" report the dog is now hosting CoV2 on its own, i.e., human-to-animal transmission.

Get well soon, pupper.

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So in Hong Kong they keep dog's as pets like decent people while in mainland China they eat dogs like the savages. Hong Kong really does need its sovereignty. From now on I will support an independent Hong Kong, for the puppers!

 

[DewsLit]

Cruise ship in Norway awaits virus test on 2 passengers
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A German cruise ship with 1,200 passengers is moored in southern Norway waiting for the test results of two passengers who had been on land to be tested for the new coronavirus, officials said Tuesday.

The town of Haugesund, 110 kilometers (70 miles) south of Bergen, Norway’s second largest city, was alerted Monday by the ship’s agent that two passengers on the Aida Aura had been in contact with a third person a week ago who tested positive for the virus. That person was not on the ship.

The 202-meter (663-foot) long and 28-meter (92-foot) Aida Aura is operated by the German cruise line AIDA Cruises.


After visiting the ship, a doctor with the municipality of Haugesund said none of the passengers showed symptoms of having the COVID-19 illness.


"The guests were contacted by health authorities in Germany as part of a routine investigation into a medical situation. All guests on board have already been informed about this. All passengers remain on board, visits on land aren't taking place,” the cruise company said in a statement.


Both cruise ship passengers were tested on land and the results were expected later Tuesday.

Norway’s coastline is a popular destination for cruise ships because of its breath-taking landscapes and fjords.

Update to yesterdays news

Norway clears cruise passengers after 2 tested for virus

Norwegian officials have cleared passengers on a German cruise ship to come out of a 24-hour quarantine after two of them tested negative for the coronavirus

abcnews.go.com

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[Yoda]

I've been mulling this in my head for the past week, but if what we think we know about the virus is true, how likely is it that the actual number of cases in the world is in the millions?

How could a virus this transmissible, that lives on surfaces for days, and can be spread for up to two weeks before symptoms start to show that hit the scene during the period of largest travel in the world, and that the rest of the planet only became aware of because of a failed cover-up not not have scoured the globe in this time? With the WHO not even bothering to get up out of their lazy chairs to try and prevent spread on top of that.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic but if that were the case and the number of deaths stayed about the same wouldn't this actually be just a flu, bros?

 

[Atatata]

While its been in my city for a while now, people are only now starting to take it seriously. Regardless, I doubt much will be done. I live too close to too many "God decides my fate," death wish types.

Anyway, people are saying masks are useless but I still think that it would be a good idea to have a couple on hand, especially if you live in a city. Not because it will protect you from the virus, but because if shit really starts to hit the fan I wouldn't be surprised if idiot vigilante wannabes might start beating up people who don't.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

I've been mulling this in my head for the past week, but if what we think we know about the virus is true, how likely is it that the actual number of cases in the world is in the millions?

How could a virus this transmissible, that lives on surfaces for days, and can be spread for up to two weeks before symptoms start to show that hit the scene during the period of largest travel in the world, and that the rest of the planet only became aware of because of a failed cover-up not not have scoured the globe in this time? With the WHO not even bothering to get up out of their lazy chairs to try and prevent spread on top of that.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic but if that were the case and the number of deaths stayed about the same wouldn't this actually be just a flu, bros?

The number of deaths is also completely under-reported and outright covered up in places like China and Iran. "We OnLy HaEv 66 DeAtHs U gUaIz!" Meanwhile, we have videos confirming at least 50 fresh corpses in one day. We also need to keep in mind that bodies of people who died back in January and early February are now being tested occasionally and are being found to have died of corona.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

The number of deaths is also completely under-reported and outright covered up in places like China and Iran. "We OnLy HaEv 66 DeAtHs U gUaIz!" Meanwhile, we have videos confirming at least 50 fresh corpses in one day. We also need to keep in mind that bodies of people who died back in January and early February are now being tested occasionally and are being found to have died of corona.

But they seem to have no problem with reporting the "recoveries."

 

[Ivan Shatov]

I've been mulling this in my head for the past week, but if what we think we know about the virus is true, how likely is it that the actual number of cases in the world is in the millions?

How could a virus this transmissible, that lives on surfaces for days, and can be spread for up to two weeks before symptoms start to show that hit the scene during the period of largest travel in the world, and that the rest of the planet only became aware of because of a failed cover-up not not have scoured the globe in this time? With the WHO not even bothering to get up out of their lazy chairs to try and prevent spread on top of that.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic but if that were the case and the number of deaths stayed about the same wouldn't this actually be just a flu, bros?

With the virus now coming to my town, looking for reassuring thoughts to keep from dwelling on plague.

There are a few things we know.

- The places that have been hardest hit have the lowest air quality. Wuhan, Iran and Italy - air quality is below standard for the average North American citizen. I've gotten sick every time I've been to China, and I've only been around the touristy places. It's odd to think China got a hold of the problem right at the same time they shut down most industry and reduced SO2 emissions to next to nothing.

- The people that have been hardest hit tend to be old folks and people with compromised immune systems. While I'm not sure I trust the numbers, I don't see a reason for ginning up the aggregate statistics about age. My kid will probably be fine and I have a very small chance of being affected.

- We don't know anything yet about the genetic profile of the people who died. There don't seem to be too many white people getting the disease, despite the fact millions went through China in December / January. If genetics doesn't factor into outcomes, we should be seeing a bigger distribution.

The flu affects everyone pretty much the same. So far, this seems to affect different groups different ways. I'm not sure how accurate it is to compare with the flu, seems like other factors increase it's lethality.

Small comfort, but (in the absence of other evidence) I'll take it.

 

[DewsLit]

Germany bans export of medical protection gear due to coronavirus

Germany has banned the export of medical protection gear to avoid supply shortages of masks, gloves and suits as doctors and authorities are racing to contain the spread of the highly contagious coronavirus, officials said on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

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Spoiler: Germany bans export of medical protection gear due to coronavirus

BERLIN, March 4 (Reuters) -
Germany has banned the export of medical protection gear to avoid supply shortages of masks, gloves and suits as doctors and authorities are racing to contain the spread of the highly contagious coronavirus, officials said on Wednesday.

The decision was taken by the government’s emergency task force on the coronavirus epidemic, with the export ban coming into force immediately, an economy ministry spokesman said.

The health ministry said that the export ban applied to all sorts of medical protection gear including breathing masks, medical gloves and protective suits. “Exceptions are only possible under strict conditions,” the health ministry added.

The federal government also decided that Berlin would henceforth buy medical protection gear in order to provide hospitals and doctors’ surgeries across the country with the necessary equipment, the health ministry said.

Germany has now reported 240 cases of the virus, which emerged in China late last year and is spreading around the world. It has killed nearly 3,200 people, though Germany has not reported a fatal case yet.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Video's Translation: "What's up, Michael? Listen, I've been to the "healthy and care" (1) asking about Coronavirus, and they told me they haven't even activated protocol at the moment, (2) but I wasn't contempt and I went to spanish hospital of La Linea, and then the first thing they tell me is "don't be scared". "Don't be scared"? But how am I not going to be worried, Brother? When I have two babies. (3) So I "venio un fundio y tó" (4), they're saying it's the fault of the spanish people in the social media, but here there's dying people that have never died before, bother. (5)

So about those numbers:
1: I think he means primary healthcare provider, as I mentioned before while the Gibraltar Healthcare Agency claims to be up to par with the west and cooperate with the NHS (and if you check the web you'll see its not till the end they add "and also spanish hospitals due to proximity" as if it's small print.) Truth is Gibraltar just got a buncha people making prognosis and sening EVERYTHING to La Linea, the nearest spanish hospital. So I'm guessing that's the healthcare center he's refering to there but… He literally just says "healthy and care", that's a (sic) not a translation, I... Look in cadiz we're already known for having our own dialect that makes people question our sanity, and Gibraltar is what happens when people from cadiz do the same to spanglish this is the best I can do.
2: Yeah I know the grammar's atrocious, and that's 'cause his way of speaking was with atrocious grammar so I tried to copy it best I could… Also fucking LOL at that prior comment saying the WHO said britain is the best at activating protocol meanwhile their forgotten dog of a colony literally has yet to do anything, not that they could since they don't even have a hospital at all in the entire god damned rock.
3: Told you they go to La Linea. Also again yeah I'm still aware of the grammar. Spanish media has been informing everyone quite well so whenever they get healthcare tourists all the hospital can really do is tell them to fucking go get informed elsewhere. It's not like we can just testscreen every nervous fucking parent that crosses the border, as the government explained, and clogging hospital time with worthless shit is, well, very typically british of him... it's not our fault Gibraltar didn't bother telling you, or getting any kits at all. Again lol at the WHO rankings. For the record my ranking is "everyone fucking failed at everything since this shit's been here for months and no one knew shit."
4: I... Don't even know how to translate that at all. The "y tó" is "y todo" literally translates as "and all", basically used to mean "and that's all" as for "venio un fundio" it is "venido un fundido" which literally translates as "came a fade" or "came a foundry"... I think he means he fainted or something, man I have no fucking clue, I have not seen that expression before even amongst the weirdest from cadiz. It's funny as shit though.
5: The way he phrases it in the video implies the virus is the fault of spanish people in social media but I'm guessing he means they told him the histerics are the fault of social media and he shouldn't listen to them. If not, again, very typical of the brits to blame us for everything while leeching off of us. Either way I've been laughing at that last part for the whole damned day. yeah I sure hope the dead people haven't died before, if corona is killing the already dead we got worse problems in our hands! The expression itself I guess he's using to mean a lot of people are dying, and even then… Not in spain, our records for that shit are public and we only got 1 death and it was today, and not in Gibraltar, if they did I'd have already laughed my ass off over here as La Linea would be under siege so I'm guessing he just means global reports. Either way, never change you fucking Llanito. God damn that was funny.

EDIT: btw if you're wondering by the image. Yeah that's gibraltar. As in ALL of it. Only thing they own is the rock in fact, the beach and sea in the lower half are spanish much to the dismay of their government. That's why their governor has such flagrant inferiority complex than he needs to keep dick measuring contests. It's literally just a run down village in the middle of nowhere britain uses to send ships that need dismantling to. (And hence throwing all the pollution our way instead of having to have proper controls... yeah btw gibraltar is an ecological nightmare.) So for any of you that owns Hoi4. Fucking lol at the need to put it in the map at all.

 

[neverendingmidi]

I’m going to laugh if due to the paranoia and fear-mongering causing more people to wash their hands and actually take care of themselves in a flu season causes fewer than average deaths from a virus.

Maybe we can get a front page sticky when it beats the 2017-18 numbers by killing more than 4000/week in the US.

 

[Otterly]

I've been mulling this in my head for the past week, but if what we think we know about the virus is true, how likely is it that the actual number of cases in the world is in the millions?

How could a virus this transmissible, that lives on surfaces for days, and can be spread for up to two weeks before symptoms start to show ....
Maybe I'm being too optimistic but if that were the case and the number of deaths stayed about the same wouldn't this actually be just a flu, bros?

It’s a little too early to tell. Epidemics don’t explode immediately, you get single cases popping up and not all of them will transmit onwards. Plus there is a generation time involved. @magnumtenebrosum has just sent me this link:

Singapore claims first use of antibody test to track coronavirus infections

Researchers hope serological testing will help them better understand the epidemic

www.sciencemag.org

Which shows that serological tests are starting to be used. They arent widely used yet, but it shouldn’t take too long. . That means we can detect who has HAD the virus.
It all depends on how many people have been exposed to this. If it is millions we are in a better place than if it’s thousands. But in pandemic terms, we are still at the start, possibly at the bit where the curve starts to go upwards, but you don’t know that at the time, you can only see that after enough time has elapsed. Was that weird flu everyone got at xmas actually corona? Probably not, but if it was it does change a lot. We need to know.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

America joins the double digit club

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It’s a little too early to tell. Epidemics don’t explode immediately, you get single cases popping up and not all of them will transmit onwards. Plus there is a generation time involved. @magumtenebrosum has just sent me this link:

Singapore claims first use of antibody test to track coronavirus infections

Researchers hope serological testing will help them better understand the epidemic

www.sciencemag.org

Which shows that serological tests are starting to be used. They arent widely used yet, but it shouldn’t take too long. . That means we can detect who has HAD the virus.
It all depends on how many people have been exposed to this. If it is millions we are in a better place than if it’s thousands. But in pandemic terms, we are still at the start, possibly at the bit where the curve starts to go upwards, but you don’t know that at the time, you can only see that after enough time has elapsed. Was that weird flu everyone got at xmas actually corona? Probably not, but if it was it does change a lot. We need to know.

There seem to be two strains, a mild one and a really nasty virulent one, I wonder if the mild one will protect against the really bad strain.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

And here we go

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Jesus, it's like the bubonic plague where the streets were covered in human shit and rats and no one caught on that it was definitely not helping matters.

 

[Shaved Kiwis]

I've been mulling this in my head for the past week, but if what we think we know about the virus is true, how likely is it that the actual number of cases in the world is in the millions?

How could a virus this transmissible, that lives on surfaces for days, and can be spread for up to two weeks before symptoms start to show that hit the scene during the period of largest travel in the world, and that the rest of the planet only became aware of because of a failed cover-up not not have scoured the globe in this time? With the WHO not even bothering to get up out of their lazy chairs to try and prevent spread on top of that.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic but if that were the case and the number of deaths stayed about the same wouldn't this actually be just a flu, bros?

Plenty of people out there running around with mild symptoms. It's not impossible. The fact that the Trump adminstration is talking about treating everybody with Coronavirus Commie style in an election year has me spooked for real now. That was all I needed to hear to start stocking up.

 

[Shaka Brah]

This why the whole "self isolate" thing is bullshit

Coronavirus patient ignored self-isolation order to go to business event

New Hampshire’s first coronavirus patient shrugged off his quarantine and went to an event in a different state — potentially exposing almost 200 people to the deadly illness, officials revealed. T…

nypost.com

Cuomo was given dictatorial powers by the state legislature yesterday, I'm sure he'll do the right thing and use them carefully. Riiight.

I guess it's time for him to quarantine Jewish neighborhoods to keep the virus away from his real constituents while everyone else coofs.

 

[Male Idiot]

I guess it's time for him to quarantine Jewish neighborhoods to keep the virus away from his real constituents while everyone else coofs.

Don't coof on me, goy!

We all know that if a jew had it, he would coof on everybody who he owned money to, or did not pay money owned to him.

 

[MediocreMilt]

4: I... Don't even know how to translate that at all. The "y tó" is "y todo" literally translates as "and all", basically used to mean "and that's all" as for "venio un fundio" it is "venido un fundido" which literally translates as "came a fade" or "came a foundry"... I think he means he fainted or something, man I have no fucking clue, I have not seen that expression before even amongst the weirdest from cadiz. It's funny as shit though.

Google translate for "venio un fundio y tó" spits out "a cast came and took". But it recommends changing the original text to "venio un fundo y tó" which it translates as "a farm came and took".

I'm guessing it's some weird idiom meaning something like "I'm worried I'll die" or "I'm worried I'll go broke".

Don't coof on me, goy!

We all know that if a jew had it, he would coof on everybody who he owned money to, or did not pay money owned to him.

Silly goy. You can't collect from a COOFer.

 

[Antipathy]

The Chinese government should get absolutely fucked for allowing this to happen. Say what you want about most Western countries, but at least they don't have such shitty sanitation that fucking superplagues gestate in the streets.