Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

[cow-wannabe]

Pretty easily. His project looked cool, so I recommended it.

So all you need for your seal of approval, which you frequently boast can generate at least $20k in funding, is a quick glance and something looking cool? And despite have a personal turn-over of over $1,000,000 in your broadcast/publishing/marketing enterprise you can't employ the most basic compliance checks or keep records you can reference when confronted about potential conflicts of interest?

Can you understand why people are skeptical of your claims and are wondering if you're setting Crid up as the fall-guy?

 

[Rupin]

The question is... how?

The man has never raised much more then 5k for a campaign, his latests campaigns have made under a grand and yet he's employed a penciler, an inker and a colourist.
Unless they're chained up in his basement as slave labour (and I guess you have to consider that possibility) then his books are a mere vanity publishing project and he's taking a huge loss just to put them out.

he is a trustfund kid that’s how. I think his parents have him on some type of allowance where he can live comfortably and doesn’t have to work, but he doesn’t have access to all his money because they are afraid that he is going to blow it all or some shit.

basically, he is kind of like Doug where he has money out the ass and can afford to do vanity publishing except that Doug can actually sell his product and has a plan for the endgame that will lead to a profit when it’s all said and done.

 

[FROG]

So all you need for your seal of approval, which you frequently boast can generate at least $20k in funding, is a quick glance and something looking cool? And despite have a personal turn-over of over $1,000,000 in your broadcast/publishing/marketing enterprise you can't employ the most basic compliance checks or keep records you can reference when confronted about potential conflicts of interest?

Can you understand why people are skeptical of your claims and are wondering if you're setting Crid up as the fall-guy?

You've gotta be a Preston Poulter sock puppet. This is pure exceptionalism.

 

[cow-wannabe]

You've gotta be a Preston Poulter sock puppet. This is pure exceptionalism.

Could you just answer the question please?

Cridious just openly admitted he misused the funds. Everyone should feel comfortable calling him thief now.

Not if you 'handled the stolen goods.'

Having the confidence to call someone a thief when some of the money is 'resting in your account', I'm sure that's not confidence, that's stupidity.

 

[Twinkletard]

he is a trustfund kid that’s how. I think his parents have him on some type of allowance where he can live comfortably and doesn’t have to work, but he doesn’t have access to all his money because they are afraid that he is going to blow it all or some shit.

basically, he is kind of like Doug where he has money out the ass and can afford to do vanity publishing except that Doug can actually sell his product and has a plan for the endgame that will lead to a profit when it’s all said and done.

Maybe he's like Richard Pryor in Brewster's Millions and he's got to blow through 30 million dollars to inherit 300 million from his rich uncle.

 

[Nippy]

re: Cridious, absolutely correct. It's very discouraging. He stole from his backers and this will affect people's trust in small campaigns for awhile. As for Preston buying it, nobody agreed to let Preston Poulter have their personal data. It's a security breach and a breach of ethics to even consider selling that info to him. Preston could buy the project and re-solicit donations, but buying backers data is a no-go.

Ha ha yo who the fuck says? It's not your campaign and it's not your money. Why should everyone else not get something they paid for just because your war campaign buddies are worried about being doxed in a gay little comic book crusade. As someone else put it, you're worried about private information being in the hands of this Preston guy, but not the guy who just admitted to stealing all their money.

 

[PocketJacks]

It does kind of sound like me.

I assume by exceptionalism you are referring to, just kind of "looked cool," as your mark of quality by which you convinced backers to support an unknown creator who did not fulfill his project.

Speaking of exceptionalism, your claim that "no one" wants my books is easily disproven as I have earned more crowdfunding money than many of your sycophants. And let's not forget cons sales.

You know, cons. Those things you don't do well at.

You've gotta be a Preston Poulter sock puppet. This is pure exceptionalism.

 

[FROG]

It does kind of sound like me.

I assume by exceptionalism you are referring to, just kind of "looked cool," as your mark of quality by which you convinced backers to support an unknown creator who did not fulfill his project.

Speaking of exceptionalism, your claim that "no one" wants my books is easily disproven as I have earned more crowdfunding money than many of your sycophants. And let's not forget cons sales.

You know, cons. Those things you don't do well at.

Preston, I'm not the father you've disappointed. Stop trying to impress me with your accomplishments. Work all this out with him.

With regards to Preston, it’s been stated in the other thread that he has successfully fulfilled at least one campaign at this point, putting him leagues ahead of Donal, Andrew Huerta, Cridious etc. I’d honestly back his books myself if they were a subject matter I was remotely interested in.

The irony of all of this is, he'd have been on CAPS and he'd be making a lot more money on his comics if he was just patient, and didn't spam me with abuse when he thought he'd been waiting too long.

Preston thinks ComicArtistPro Secrets is ComicsGate, and he thinks that therefore, I am running ComicsGate. So it should be FAIR. And he thinks in terms of merit, he deserved to be with the others on my channel, which he believes is the sum total of ComicsGate.

He doesn't understand that I'm just a dude who promotes ComicsGate, and I do it on a volunteer basis when I feel like it. There's no way to get on the show except at my whim. Nobody pays or is paid for it. It's just a matter of what I feel like, when I want. It's not an organized structure with an application process.

More than half of it is, "do I like this creator and are they fun or interesting or funny?" That comes directly after how good the project is. So even really good projects, when they're run by annoying or boring people, disappear from my channel eventually.

Preston's work is average but he's cartoonishly animated and amusing, and he would probably have been a mainstay if we could get him to stop making virtue signalling LGBTQ-Power books.

Instead, he's become another lunatic stalker who MUST DESTROY COMICSGATE. There are plenty of those, and it's a waste of his time. Get out there and sell your book, and try to sell it to ComicsGaters. They buy indie books.

 

[HonsPonzud]

You've gotta be a Preston Poulter sock puppet. This is pure exceptionalism.

To me it looks more like someone is playing dumb with his own self, or with one of his many cult followers on kiwi to try to look like a victim again. You are just the kind of manipulative douche that allways pull shit like this, be it on twitter, or on youtube. You have done this one too many time everywhere to look credible to me. After that much attempts, everytime you put a scene and theatricalize your "appearances". people starts to notice, it only happens when you are around. You can't just live, breathe and sweat fake drama and manufactured bullshit from all your pores just a single day, there is not a single day you can not just overdramatize and act. You sound more and more crazier and paranoid like an old embittered granny that thinks everyone is out to get you every single day and that's also part of your problem.

 

[FROG]

To me it looks more like someone is playing dumb with his own self, or with one of his many cult followers on kiwi to try to look like a victim again. You are just the kind of manipulative douche that allways pull shit like this, be it on twitter, or on youtube. You have done this one too many time everywhere to look credible to me. After that much attempts, everytime you put a scene and theatricalize your "appearances". people starts to notice, it only happens when you are around. You can't just live, breathe and sweat fake drama and manufactured bullshit from all your pores just a single day, there is not a single day you can not just overdramatize and act. You sound more and more crazier and paranoid like an old embittered granny that thinks everyone is out to get you every single day and that's also part of your problem.

These sound like lyrics to a Journey song.

 

[HonsPonzud]

These sound like lyrics to a Journey song.

I'd toss a coin for your song to be heard by a psychiatrist.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Are you honestly telling me you think the guy that can't raise 50 backers for a project has any intention of aquiring and finishing Detective Dead and delivering it?
Preston is just rubbing salt in the wound, I really don't think he's going to spend his mummy and daddies trust fund money on finishing a comicsgate project, just to 'own the gaters', but I'm sure he's chuckling pretty hard right now.

I mean its better than cridious talking about taking another loan to fulfil and refund the campaign, why is it bad that he has rich parents? Cecil is living off his sister im surprised none of cg offered to help out to help cridioous.

didn't spam me with abuse when he thought he'd been waiting too long.

It would be annoying for a guy to tag you a lot. You have a point, food for thotz.

 

[Rupin]

I mean its better than cridious talking about taking another loan to fulfil and refund the campaign, why is it bad that he has rich parents? Cecil is living off his sister im surprised none of cg offered to help out to help cridioous.



It would be annoying for a guy to tag you a lot. You have a point, food for thotz.

why would anyone offer to help Cridious when he bought all of that shit on himself? Nothing was preventing him from getting a job and supporting himself while fulfilling his crowdfunding obligations. What he did was a scumball move and he didn’t even let anyone in CG know that he needed help until after he spent all of the funds. That’s why CG turned their backs on him and rightfully so.

 

[cow-wannabe]

Preston, I'm not the father you've disappointed. Stop trying to impress me with your accomplishments. Work all this out with him.

Regardless of my identity, and the question of me being myself or someone else, can we get back to the question of whether it is fair to call Crid a thief.

Crid spent funds on living expenses and ran out of money, using the crowd-funded sum as wages as well as to cover physical production costs. Didn't you do the same over the time it took to produce Cyberfrog? Didn't you also re-finance your campaign multiple times with new campaigns for variant covers?

It does seem the norm in Comicsgate that crowdfunding is raised on projects that are nowhere near completed, and used to pay the creator's living expenses during the completion process. You yourself have even described Cecil's campaign as his livlihood, being something he makes a living from, and not as project start-up money.

Also, if it was theft, then any project that only delivered partially on what it promised would also be theft too, like Stealing Solo (with perks still missing and the promised reprints seemingly forgotten about). Why not the same indignation directed against World Class Bullshitters?

With that in mind Crid's case seems more one of mismanagement rather than theft.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

why would anyone offer to help Cridious when he bought all of that shit on himself? Nothing was preventing him from getting a job and supporting himself while fulfilling his crowdfunding obligations. What he did was a scumball move and he didn’t even let anyone in CG know that he needed help until after he spent all of the funds. That’s why CG turned their backs on him and rightfully so.

Cg books are late as hell so i think its hypocrital. It was scummy of cridious, the best option was him giving it to pocket jacks and negotiate a plan to not include his books don't have backer info.

 

[Rupin]

Cg books are late as hell so i think its hypocrital. It was scummy of cridious, the best option was him giving it to pocket jacks and negotiate a plan to not include his books don't have backer info.

lateness and outright stealing the money are two different things. Both are wrong, Lateness is forgivable because for many of these guys, it’s their first time and they are learning the ropes. If they are super late and rarely give updates, then you can always choose not to deal with those particular guys again. I know of a few people that I wont back again because of this reason, but stealing is unforgivable when it comes to customer trust and the people who put their neck out on the line to back him up. You can’t blame everyone in the movement because of the actions of a few fuck ups. Lateness is not limited to CG, and unfortunately neither is stealing.

 

[Mister Dongs]

I don't blame anyone in Comicsgate for helping Cridious. The entire purpose of third-wave Comicsgate is to get projects funded as an alternative to the floundering, gatekept mainstream. Cridious got funded. It's not up to the people that helped him fund his campaign then go to the trouble of organizing and complete his campaign for him. He's a grown-ass man, is what I'm saying. If you need a third party to police and monitor campaigns, there's always Warcampaign which has been trying to set itself up as such a thing this entire time. And what a success story they have been.

That said, all these "first time writers" with shitty concepts, no business plan and no ability to complete the comic themselves if need be - should be held under higher scrutiny, if only to protect the credibility of the platforms they're being put on. Nearly all of the failed/failing campaigns have come down to guys under that category. Mike Miller might have 5 campaigns going simultaenously and livestream 8 fucking hours a day but I have no doubt in my mind that he will eventually complete whatever 80s B-movie action movie he's creating by the simple fact that he's capable of producing the finished work by himself.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Lateness is forgivable because for many of these guys, it’s their first time and they are learning the ropes. If they are super late and rarely give updates, then you can always choose not to deal with those particular guys again.

It's been like a year they have more then enough funds to deliver the book on time. When you jump into crowdfunding you must figure out how you're actually going to fulfil. From the looks of it most of the first cg book creators spent all of the crowdfunding money, which is disappointing.

but stealing is unforgivable when it comes to customer trust and the people who put their neck out on the line to back him up.

I think Ethan from now on should only promote books that are halfway done or at least stable enough to be fulfilled on time or see if they are financially stable.

You can’t blame everyone in the movement because of the actions of a few fuck ups. Lateness is not limited to CG, and unfortunately neither is stealing.

A few is generous, because of the few people in cg are losing customers, customers can only take so much, customers are spending thousands on books that are offensively late, when arrived its absolute shit, the artist hasn't done any work or the book is canceled. These few fuckups will cause huge ramifications on this movement. It's nice you are optimistic but this movement with the way its going cg will die or aspects of it will like having huge promoting books live streams and creators going solo.

 

[FROG]

Regardless of my identity, and the question of me being myself or someone else, can we get back to the question of whether it is fair to call Crid a thief.

Crid spent funds on living expenses and ran out of money, using the crowd-funded sum as wages as well as to cover physical production costs. Didn't you do the same over the time it took to produce Cyberfrog? Didn't you also re-finance your campaign multiple times with new campaigns for variant covers?

No, I didn't. I spent money on a lawyer and taxes. The rest went to paying Kyle and Somni, a charitable offering of $10K, making the perks and fulfillment, which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars together.

My wife and I took payroll checks from the business account for Christmas, totaling $20K.

I didn't "re-finance" my campaign multiple times. I met demand for people who missed the first round of funding with new variant covers, to both sell to new customers and offer more product to current customers. All throughout, unless we had an expense related to the business, we didn't touch that money.

We did very well, and what's left right now is our profit. I'm spending it to pay artists in ComicsGate to make books, covers and playing card art. We had plenty of money to buy two covers from Jae Lee, and we could print a few more books in advance of funding them, like UNFROGETTABLE TALES.

The idea is to grow the business.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

I don't blame anyone in Comicsgate for helping Cridious. The entire purpose of third-wave Comicsgate is to get projects funded as an alternative to the floundering, gatekept mainstream. Cridious got funded. It's not up to the people that helped him fund his campaign then go to the trouble of organizing and complete his campaign for him. He's a grown-ass man, is what I'm saying. If you need a third party to police and monitor campaigns, there's always Warcampaign which has been trying to set itself up as such a thing this entire time. And what a success story they have been.

Im not saying help the guy but im surprised no one even bother to ask him the fuck is going on with him being silent. But in my opinion he should've gave detective dead to pocket jacks or someone from cg who wouldn't mind finishing the book or at least started a gfm since someone made tug a gfm over a stupid mailbox falling due to air, not a fat whale in texas.