Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Surely, even with quarantine, you can buy groceries and food online, and get them delivered. May not be to the door, but surely the drivers'll be fine with putting them by the fence or the letterbox and sending you a message saying they've dropped it.

And with smart TVs and smartphones rising, you've got things to watch/fap to.

Or you can keep shitposting like we do. Quarantine's in no way as bad as it was back in the day.
 
I really don't understand why people can't just stay put for a few weeks and fuck around online, maybe read a few books, pick up a new hobby at home, that shit. This is selfish and only risks further spread.

I have relatives actually LOOKING FORWARD to being stuck at home because of how exhausted their jobs make them. Working downtown eats you alive and they would personally kill for a few weeks of mandatory paid leave where they can laze about and have all the time in the world to just chill out.
ngl that spoiler is kinda me. I have a roommate and we have plenty of board games and I have my workout equiptment.. Would be comfy as fuck.
 
And this dude was a "Professor of Military History"? Really? I suppose what they say is true, "those who can, do. those who don't know jack shit about anything, teach". At least at the College level.

Just to understand, When the US has fought wars in the 20th Century and beyond, extended supply chain and spare parts is and always has been the problem they face. This was completely baked into the US war planning and operations during WW2. If you look at the various tanks of the war for example, you will notice a huge number of extremely exotic German designs. If you dig down further you would be hard pressed to find more than 5 or 6 individual specimens of any given model German tanks out of the entirety of their armored forces, that were built exactly the same, all with the same parts. The Germans were making constant production changes every day. This meant that often tanks and similar machines had to be sent back to the factory for service. While the Brits weren't quite that bad, they like the German's maintained a habit of frequent production and design changes throughout the production lifecycle. Whereas the entire US production system was predicated on the core problem that what was being produced was being sent to the far corners of the earth, with no ability to readily bring it back for repairs or modifications. So every unit produced had to work. It had to be the same as and share all core components with others of its kind. And it had to be field servicable with a minimal amount of tools. This is why there are not the vast variants of US Sherman Tanks like there are of German Panzers. Those building them knew they were being sent to remote places in Europe, Africa and the Pacific. The US Army and Navy procurement system maintained fairly rigid version controls. And mandated extensive testing before rolling major changes out. The Problem that your professor says the US has never faced, was the exact problem that the US perfected solving. (The actual problem that the US has never faced in war is material resource constraints. Since the US is largely resource and energy independent within its own borders.)

As for stores being cleaned out. Any time the news reports the Northeast is going to be hit with a Blizzard it happens.

This was 5+ years and a shit load of braincells ago so i was paraphrasing, also he was talking post ww2, hence a comparison with the Soviets. Like doesnt the abrams tank need like 1000 hours of work for 2 hours of use or some insane shit like that?

The good news is that this seems to be slowing down/lots more recovering outside of china. This is maxing out at 2% kill rate. This might legitimately be dealt with by june
 
China has had the worst pollution problems in the world for so long and they refuse to fix them.

With Corona Chan, I don't think it's so much hatred of China as it is Wuhan not taking care of their fucking hygiene and being disgusting.

Stay inside and wash your hands lol.
 
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The good news is that this seems to be slowing down/lots more recovering outside of china. This is maxing out at 2% kill rate. This might legitimately be dealt with by june

Until sentinel testing is in place we won't have a good idea of the community infection rate, but I'm starting to see credible predictions of a 1.5% fatality rate in countries with good healthcare systems.

I guess we continue to wait and see.
 
It probably arose in China. Most pandemic flu does.
you know what’s funny? I looked up the original papers a few weeks back because someone was arguing about this at work, and then they were all on the first page of google results. Now they aren’t...
http://archive.li/St0GS.
How does this pagerank stuff happen? To my knowledge, it's based on clicks... or used to be.
So it's one of the 2:
1. Chinese spambots clicking on articles to flood the ranking and hide stuff that they don't want people to see but can't also just take off the internet
2. Google cucked to the red cock and re-ranked shit.

Since the suggested origin is in Shanxi, 1918, I doubt the CCP gives a shit. 1918 is 6 years after the Republic of China took over, replacing the Qing Dynasty. Shanxi to this day is still very backwards, a third world. Wouldn't surprise me at all, considering 19xx of China is basically a shithole dump that's over 50 years behind the rest of the world, thanks to Qianlong. So I'm guessing it's google being censorious cucks again.

Won't surprise me either way. "First case found in the USA, but it has been circulating in China for some time", and 2009 China was more focused on massively industrialising the country than the environment or hygiene, something the developed world cares about.

So basically, there's nothing Spanish about the Spanish flu. Here's what happened, in theory:
Labourers from Republic of China sailed to Kansas, which was a major transportation proxy at the time.
The labourers carried the virus into the region which made it explode.
The Spanish got the name because they were the first to report on the virus.
So the origin is either China (ROC) or Kansas, USA. What we do know is Kansas is the epicentre of the outbreak. 1917 ROC was a dump and I doubt they had the capacity to understand the virus.
I don't think we'll ever know the true origins, but we can pick a plausible theory.

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Here's an "updated" article that traces back to a 1889 outbreak, in Russia?
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/4/140428-1918-flu-avian-swine-science-health-science/

China has had the worst pollution problems in the world for so long and they refuse to fix them.

With Corona Chan, I don't think it's so much hatred of China as it is Wuhan not taking care of their fucking hygiene and being disgusting.

Stay inside and wash your hands lol.
Every single scumbag politician of the province should be swinging from a rope.
Arresting 8 medical experts for spreading rumours while they've tested the virus and have data is beyond fucking pathetic, it's immoral.
They weren't even the ones that put out those chatlog screenshots.
 
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I really don't understand why people can't just stay put for a few weeks and fuck around online, maybe read a few books, pick up a new hobby at home, that shit. This is selfish and only risks further spread.

I have relatives actually LOOKING FORWARD to being stuck at home because of how exhausted their jobs make them. Working downtown eats you alive and they would personally kill for a few weeks of mandatory paid leave where they can laze about and have all the time in the world to just chill out.

Looks like you are preaching to the choir hun.

If you haven't noticed, folks on this forum would fuck around on line 24/7 if nature were to take its course ...
 
Sorry if this was anwsered but, how do I know if a bad case of flu I have is flu or Corona-chan?
Go to a hospital if you think you have the flu.
It's the best thing you can do for yourself and others. No one can explain what the symptoms truly are because there have been very special cases and the virus has an incubation period of 2 weeks originally, now it's likely a month if we want to be liberal.
 
You don't unless you meet the testing criteria.
And the first part of the criteria is that you have to prove that you were in an area in which Corona is an issue and/or you were in contact with someone that was likely (or has proven to be) infected. I'm told it's not that easy to get testing approved.
 
Well, we haven't reached the "Uncle Johnny Tells You How To Stay Sane Under Quarantine" yet, but if you were playing Plague Inc. and saw these kind of numbers for your virus you'd be excited as fuck.

Anyway, not much to report. Got a friend in Canada who was able to make it to the Pathfinder game online because his office is stopping all business travel on the down-low.

Remember, Kiwis, your mental and emotional healthy leading up to things is important to.

Smile to yourself in the mirror.
Dress nicely. Not for anyone else, but for you.
Do your laundry and clean your house, take out ALL your garbage while services are still uninterrupted.
Hug and randomly touch a family member during the day. (No bad touch or hitting)
Smile to your family members and, if you can, at least one stranger.

Johnny's Joke for the Day: A young Indian boy asked his father: "How was my sister named, father?" The brave answered: "When your sister was born I went outside and named her after the first thing I saw, the beautiful morning sunrise, which is why she's known as Morning Glory. Why do you ask, Two-Dogs Fucking?"
 
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This hatred of foreigners by China is unacceptable:

My Take. Yup know this first hand...
I'm pretty sure he misread the law or was told untrue things, typical to all these China-centric channels. Either regurgitate CCP trash or whatever they are fed online that goes to the other extreme.

The immigration policy is an either or, not "tick all the boxes".
So it's either invest 2+ million dollars, or make scientific contributions, or be a stable job provider, or be exceptional in sports/economics/education.

Also the guy ranting on about people using the nigger word and racism and xenophobia... get the fuck over yourself. If anything, his cherrypicked screenshots show Weibo has more freedom of speech, pathetic coward. Can't complain about immigration policies on Twitter can you? The guy assuming scientific contribution means stealing scientific knowledge is also rich, especially since he whinged about "muh prejudice, muh xenophobia" crap. Isn't he a globalist, then shouldn't scientific knowledge benefit the globalised world?

I don't endorse this shitty argument, but I must make it. I have no inferiority complex and I don't give a shit about being faced with xenophobia or being xenophobic. I have no persecution complex because I understand that people are fundamentally different and I can just ignore ones I do not like.

Back in the days when western countries opened up, all sorts of coloured people that moved in were met with the same treatment. It's not even say, white on Chinese or black, you'd see the Greeks and Italians being met with the same xenophobia. So what does this guy want? China to just suddenly open up and everyone within to suddenly jump over their racial mindset and immediately embrace divershitty? Something that's never the case anywhere when such laws were discussed? Whine about communism but expect the equally unrealistic thing to happen? So Ching Chong Ling Long posting incel nigger sperg on weibo can't and shouldn't vote no because his uncle is living outside of China? What?

Then this guy whinges about nationalism. What a fucking crybaby. Wonder if they talked about Uganda implementing miscegenation laws against people, especially the Chinese that came in and married their women. Did Australia or the USA get to vote on opening up for immigration? If yes, then great, it was passed, China did the same and it wasn't. If no, then what the fuck is he whining about?

The main criticism of the law isn't contained to Weibo nigger hating autism, people are saying it's way too vague and timing is too odd (which it fucking is, it's vague as shit). The biggest point of contention I've seen was China's own fucking problems. People in China are saying lots of Chinese don't even have access to health benefits, the Internet, and public transport. The country is simply not capable to accept immigration. People who are critical of the law aren't sperging about how Tyrone or Jamal will marry their women. Also, so what if some see that as a problem? The guy didn't refute the argument, all he did was shit out 白左 drivel about racism and xenophobia. As if either is the original sin.

People in China are being quarantined due to the virus, angry, cynical, ready to voice their disdain and grievances at any given moment or chance. Then this law comes, people are ready to let it all out, along with bash the government which they usually don't have a chance to. The timing of this law is incredible, and only an imbecile can't piece together a reason behind the utter backlash. Imagine being home 24/7 for several months, plans for CNY gone, once a year fun gatherings and travel all fell through with no refunds, and then some weird vague as shit law popped out. You're gonna just suddenly embrace divershitty or go on extensive rants and whine about those 尼哥 (ni ge) because it's fun?

Did the guy even bring the proposed law up? Nope, it's just him riding his bike and whinging about the two words beginning with R and X.

This guy is the type of idiot that pulls memes of /pol/ to make an argument that everyone is turning into a Nazi.

I'll post the proposed law and fully translate it in a couple hours. Why do these shitty China channels make me either want to defend dipshits I'm indifferent to or nuke Beijing?

Fuck this gay world.
 
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Here's some funny memes and my translation, and a summary of criticism that doesn't involve "we are chinks that hate niggers on weibo".
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(< this is guangzhou BTW)
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(A picture says a thousand words)

This law was proposed as Coronachan continues to take lives, so it's tangentially related.

Alright, here's the law itself:
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The law is just one page long.
Australia's, many pages long: https://www.australia.gov.au/information-and-services/immigration-and-visas
USA, same, there's lots of pages: https://www.usa.gov/immigration-and-citizenship
The proposed law is missing a whole bunch of entries. That's why it's vague and that why it's being criticised. Can immigrants get Chinese citizenship? What happens when they commit fraud or worse violent crimes? What about marriage and their children? Will they be deported? Naturalisation? Are they required to be fluent in the Chinese language? There's so many questions, many obvious ones that are crucial to immigration policies that are missing. Besides Weibo acting like the Chink/pol/ when it comes to nigger memes, there's a myriad of valid criticism to make against this proposed law.

Now, I'll translate it.

Chapter Two Requirements for application [of permanent residency (PR)]
#10: Foreigner who abides by Chinese law, has the economics means to live independently in China, and meets the requirements, are allowed to apply for permanent residency in China.
Foreigners who are in China on the basis of foreign relations or business affairs will not be allowed to apply during their stay in China.

#11: Foreigners who provided extraordinary help to China's economy, meeting one of the following requirements, and being recommended by Chinese officials, provincial government, autonomous regions, or municipalities, can apply for PR.
a) Contributing greatly to technology, education, culture, sports, health etc.
b) Charities with great contributions.
c) Contributions to Chinese foreign relations, friendliness among different nations, global peace and global development.
d) Other means of contributions to China's economy

#12 Internationally recognised figures in economics, technology, sports, culture, education, health etc who holds exceptional achievements can apply for PR.

#13 Foreigners who are experts in certain fields and needed to further improve China's economy, meeting one of the below, can apply for PR:
a) Crucial industries and areas recognised by the government, which require experts and specialists.
b) Nationally recognised higher level schools, technological departments invited and recommended assistant doctors, assistant researchers and above experts in the field of technology (or what we call STEM), or other high level schools and technological departments invited and recommended doctors and researchers, are allowed to apply.
c) Highly advanced technological companies, innovative companies, and famous Chinese companies' invited and recommended high end managers (COO?) and experts.
d) Foreigners fulfilling #12 and successfully acquiring Chinese PR can recommend foreign experts to apply.

#14 Chinese immigration office should coordinate with foreign relations, development, education, technology, human resources, social secutiry, business, culture, health, sports etc departments to discuss further on the scope of #12 and #13, includes but not limited to the basis of the laws.

#15 Foreigners legally working in China, and meeting one of the following requirements, and having good credit when it comes to taxation and banking loans, can apply for PR:
a) PhD, or graduated from internationally recognised colleges, been working in China for 3 years and accumulative residency in China for no less than a year.
b) Nationally recognised crucial fields, departments, having 3 consecutive years of work and accumulative residency of no less than one year, and income that is no less than 4 times the average income within the same area of the previous year. (basically, income needs to be 4x of the average of the same industry in the same area the previous year)
c) Working in China for 4 years, accumulative residency of no less than 2 years, income that is no less than 6 times the average income of the same area the previous year.
d) Working in China for 8 years, accumulative residency of no less than 4 years, income that is no less than 3 times the average income of the same area the previous year.
(Note, just the average income, NOT within the same industry, just the same area. Working in tech easily outdoes the average income by 10+ times)
Income in points b) and d) are the minimum requirement, and the standards are to be implements by the governments of the specific regions. (getting a bit lazy, the governments are provincial, municipalities... blahblah, basically the local gov)

#16 Foreigners that meet the requirements of investment laws, investing as the natural person or stock owner of the company, meeting one of the following, and having 3 years of constant investments, with good taxation and bank loan scores, can apply for PR:
a) Investment of 10,000,000 yuan, which is 1.44 million USD
b) Investing in industries or areas that are recommended nationally, meeting the requirements in investment, and meeting the standards in taxation and employment percentage of Chinese citizens. (so, what is the percentage? Not mentioned)
c) Implementing high tech companies, innovative companies, with good outcome, and recommended by the local government.

That's it. Simple, isn't it? It's not the must invest $2 million, be a phd, work for many years, be an expert, reeeeee basically impossible why can't I just fuck a chink and get the PR rubbish spouted by that whatever guy who made the video. It's "one of the following", not "all" which is impossible to meet.

If this law passes, immigration to China is pretty simple. Just work there in tech for 3 years, be nice to managers, and let them recommend you. You're not in tech? Then it's going to be 4 or 8 years and you need somewhat higher income than average. Guess what the average is? Having a supplement store on Chinese eCommerce stores easily earns you 10 times the average, source is friends in China. You either have to be an expert of a field, get recommended as worthy, have $1.5 million USD (1.44 is more than fucking 500k away from 2 million, the disparity is larger than the death tolls of Nanking Massacre, 265k VS 230k VS 300k), or contribute greatly to specific industries. "Greatly" isn't defined.

This law is vague as fuck and make it rather simple to immigrate to China, not that many would want to do so.

Excluding incels sperging about nigger international students on weibo (sorry, most nogs won't meet any of the above), here's the criticism I've seen:
- The law is too vague
- A law shouldn't be passed that has "further discussion" in it
- A law shouldn't be passed with standards being listed as "pending"
- Many Chinese still live in utter poverty, we should worry about our locals first
- Who the fuck wants to move to China?
- With healthcare and access to public transport not readily available in tier 3 areas and below, it's way too early to discuss immigration
- Immigration will bring sophisticated racial relations and tension
- There is no requirement for fluency in the Chinese language
- There is no requirement for knowledge of Chinese culture
- What about marriage, and the kids?
- Did anyone forget about the virus?
- Voting online is stupid, have a real one
- Can the PR be taken away if the person breaks the law, and will they be subsequently deported?
- Fuck chain migration (I agree, fuck it)
- 1.4 billion isn't enough?

But of course, for these channels, it's infinitely easier to find some weibo incel ranting on about niggers and make a video scatterbombing utterly useless non-arguments about racism and xenophobia. Why find or pay someone to translate the thing properly and research local laws and technical jargon when you can virtue signal about how much of a not-racist and not-xenophobic 白左 shitbag you are, whilst garnering positivity from equally vapid and xenophiliac yellow-fever infested peers?

I personally think this law is far too ambiguous, it's as if someone drafted it while taking a batshit dump after eating bat sashimi.
At least basic knowledge and relation to local culture must be required to apply for PR in any place. A Chinaman wanting a PR in Australia should know at least our iconic animals, Australia day, and the correct way to eat a sausage sizzle:
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Fold the bread half, edge to edge, not from the fucking middle you tard.

Conversely, anyone who wants a PR in China should have some connection to Chinese culture, festivals, and icons. DO NOT make it political though. I'll draw the line at National Days.

Moreover, language is important too. PR holders of Australia who can't speak two Engrish sentences are just as pathetic as those living and working in China, who can't speak very basic Chinese. At least primary school level (perhaps year/grade 5 or 6) fluency in the local language should be required.

Chain migration is the definition of being a parasite. That should not be allowed.

What I do agree with that biker guy is marriage. Those who marry, have a stable job, have kids, should be allowed to get a PR. The PR should be taken away if they initiate a divorce 3 years after acquisition for no good reason. This means, those who start relationships to get PRs should have decency. There's plenty of people who do this shit, and I find them distasteful. Marriage is important, not a tool for one's benefit.

All this is babble though, because unless one is diagnosed with severe yellow-fever, who would live there? I wasted 1.5 hours of life translating this horrible joke of a draft.
 
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