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How Coronavirus Has Hurt the Tech Industry

COVID-19, the novel coronavirus that is spreading around the world, has negatively affected tech-company supply shipments. Here's what the virus is doing to the industry.

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Spoiler: How Coronavirus Has Hurt the Tech Industry

Fear has set in around the world as the COVID-19 coronavirus spreads. While the public is busy preparing for the worst, though, the tech industry is already living it. Multiple tech conferences have been cancelled or postponed, including MWC, CP+ 2020, GDC, F8, and Google I/O. And thanks to production shutdowns in China, many companies are going to take major financial losses before everything is said and done.

According to TrendForce, a Chinese market research company, production numbers for the first quarter of 2020 are expected to be hit hard in the television (-4.5 percent), video game console (-10.1 percent), smartphone (-10.4 percent), smart speaker (-12.1 percent), notebook (-12.3 percent), and smartwatch (-16 percent) sectors. The longer production facilities remain closed or operate in a reduced capacity, the more tech companies will continue to lose.

It was reported at the end of January that production delays would lead to a shortage in LCD panels for TVs and PCs. And Apple has been dealing with an iPhone shortage since the middle of February, which has led to a projected $63- to $67-billion loss in sales. Contributing to video game industry losses, Nvidia is expected to take a $100 million hit thanks to the coronavirus: The outbreak has had a negative impact on the demand for graphics cards and disrupted the supply chain.

 

[Coleslaw]

Agreed. 30+ years ago I ran a BBS, then was a Sysop for Dalnet. Information flowed freely and common sense was the norm. Now 30 years later we have very very few sites like this as the rest of the world bows down to whatever forms of tyranny there is available. So yes Null Thank you for this site existing.



Did you know that the majority of bullshit happening in this world are being ran by Jone's Generations... Gen' Xers and old Millennials? Boomers are dying off as well as getting out of the rat race with the money they have saved over the years. Twitter and Google were both Founded by Gen Xer's. Facebook was founded by a Millennial Robot trying to be human. The CEO of Microsoft is... What??? A Gen Xer.

As for Zoomers??? Generally speaking... You can't even manually operate a lawn mower, but you are gud in socialist justice skills. I sure as hell won't give you a gun nor a pap smear, because it is your generation that will find a fucking way to not only kill yourself with a sharp pointy stick... but kill the person next to you with that same sharp pointy stick.

Leet skilz you might have.... but your IQ is of a Ice Cube when it comes down to common sense.

The Great Split was one of the greatest tragedies in Internet history. Without it, IRC would have Discord levels of functionality by the 2000s.

 

[tuscangarder]

U.S. Health Experts Say Stricter Measures Are Required to Limit Coronavirus’s Spread

With more than 500 cases in almost three dozen states, officials worry that containment efforts aren’t enough.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Noideawhattopick]

Jesus

Chiuso in casa con il cadavere della sorella in attesa del tampone: positiva al Coronavirus

Coronavirus - Per ore in casa in attesa del tampone da effettuare sul cadavere della sorella da poco deceduta. Il tampone alla fine risulterà positivo

www.thesocialpost.it

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

Has anyone read William Hardy McNeill's Plagues and Peoples? I am going to start rereading it now.

I hope this outbreak "inoculates" us against complacency, that is, in seeing outbreaks as things of the past or the third world. Our efficient globalized world is held together by too many fragile things.

 

[Otterly]

Can somebody please shed light on the Corona Virus 19, and children? Any information on why infants aren't dropping like flies?

My husband says that "They" are trying to figure this out. Usually it is the very old and the very young. But this virus is weird, it is killing the somewhat old, and the very old, but sparing babies

Any updates from other countries, as to what "They" are saying?

Don't want to Powerlevel here, but I also don't want a couple of dead babies.

We don’t know. ACE2 receptor density increases with age, and kids do have slightly different immune systems, but really, we have no idea. Remember also that the schools were already closed for lunar new year in China when this happened and they’ve stayed closed since. Japan has closed schools, Italy has closed schools. That doesn’t stop kids being exposed to family at home but it does alter the dynamics because they aren’t in a school environment affecting each other.

Has anyone read William Hardy McNeill's Plagues and Peoples? I am going to start rereading it now.

I hope this outbreak "inoculates" us against complacency, that is, in seeing outbreaks as things of the past or the third world. Our efficient globalized world is held together by too many fragile things.

Yeah. Maybe it’ll start the kickback against open borders, outrage culture and snowflakes in general as well. Perhaps this could be the start of the death of the culture wars, as a whole generation gets a taste of what it’s like to have something real to worry about. (Place the rainbows on the line below...) we could be facing a new restoration! Or just a recession...

 

[Shaved Kiwis]

How Coronavirus Has Hurt the Tech Industry

COVID-19, the novel coronavirus that is spreading around the world, has negatively affected tech-company supply shipments. Here's what the virus is doing to the industry.

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Infographic: Coronavirus Expected to Impact Tech Industry Shipments

This chart shows the estimated impact of the COVID-19 outbreak on global tech shipments in Q1 2020.

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Spoiler: How Coronavirus Has Hurt the Tech Industry

Fear has set in around the world as the COVID-19 coronavirus spreads. While the public is busy preparing for the worst, though, the tech industry is already living it. Multiple tech conferences have been cancelled or postponed, including MWC, CP+ 2020, GDC, F8, and Google I/O. And thanks to production shutdowns in China, many companies are going to take major financial losses before everything is said and done.

According to TrendForce, a Chinese market research company, production numbers for the first quarter of 2020 are expected to be hit hard in the television (-4.5 percent), video game console (-10.1 percent), smartphone (-10.4 percent), smart speaker (-12.1 percent), notebook (-12.3 percent), and smartwatch (-16 percent) sectors. The longer production facilities remain closed or operate in a reduced capacity, the more tech companies will continue to lose.

It was reported at the end of January that production delays would lead to a shortage in LCD panels for TVs and PCs. And Apple has been dealing with an iPhone shortage since the middle of February, which has led to a projected $63- to $67-billion loss in sales. Contributing to video game industry losses, Nvidia is expected to take a $100 million hit thanks to the coronavirus: The outbreak has had a negative impact on the demand for graphics cards and disrupted the supply chain.

Joke is on them. Even with reduced shipments these goobers will have piles of excess electronics languishing on the shelves when 5% of their customers straight up die and the other 95% are busy necking each other over turlet paper.

Between all the hoarding and tax season I've got zero interest in buying superfluous shit...except party liquor which is more of a barter tool/home safety device. You drink the vodka and use the bottle to make more molotovs.

 

[Not Really Here]

How long until the EU has to give price guarantees on oil and natural gas or outright aid to Russia? Russia doesn't have the cash to sell petrolatum products this close to production costs for very long.

 

[Barnard]

Five new confirmed cases in Poland for a total of 16 now, two of which are on intensive care. Not much info on the new cases so far, other than that they were expected: more people coming back from Italy, known to have been in contact with an infected person, or otherwise already under quarantine. Well, yeah, but with the limited number of tests done per day it's not exactly easy to catch unexpected cases.

I'll be busy replenishing our supplies in upcoming days.

 

[Not Really Here]

I'm nearly orgasmic, no matter what happens this is the perfect setup to make gobs of cash in oil.

 

[Beluga]

Livefeed from San Vittore, a prison in the centre of Milan. Inmates are currently protesting inside the prison, a dozen of them are on the roof demanding their release. Outside their relatives are protesting, too. Fucking scumbags.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

How long until the EU has to give price guarantees on oil and natural gas or outright aid to Russia? Russia doesn't have the cash to sell petrolatum products this close to production costs for very long.

Not just Russia, Oil Prices this low will cause Saudia Arabia to absolutely collapse if it goes on for too long.

 

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Even mask-wearers can be ID'd, China facial recognition firm says

A Chinese company says it has developed the country's first facial recognit...

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What a great opportunity for China to hone their Orwellian surveillance tech.

Quote of the day

“It not only benefits Chinese people, but also, when the technology is applied globally, it can benefit the world"

Spoiler: Even mask-wearers can be ID'd, China facial recognition firm says

A Chinese company says it has developed the country’s first facial recognition technology that can identify people when they are wearing a mask, as most are these days because of the coronavirus, and help in the fight against the disease.

China employs some of the world’s most sophisticated systems of electronic surveillance, including facial recognition.

But the coronavirus, which emerged in Hubei province late last year, has resulted in almost everyone wearing a surgical mask outdoors in the hope of warding off the virus - posing a particular problem for surveillance.

Now Hanwang Technology Ltd, which also goes by the English name Hanvon, said it has come up technology that can successfully recognize people even when they are wearing masks.

“If connected to a temperature sensor, it can measure body temperature while identifying the person’s name, and then the system would process the result, say, if it detects a temperature over 38 degrees,” Hanwang Vice President Huang Lei told Reuters in an interview.

The Beijing-based firm said a team of 20 staff used core technology developed over the past 10 years, a sample database of about 6 million unmasked faces and a much smaller database of masked faces, to develop the technology,

The team began work on the system in January, as the coronavirus outbreak gathered pace, and began rolling it out to the market after just a month.

It sells two main types of products that use the technology. One performs “single channel” recognition that is best used at, for example, entrances to office buildings.

The other, more powerful, product is a “multi-channel” recognition system that uses “multiple surveillance cameras”.

It can identify everyone in a crowd of up to 30 people “within a second”, Huang says.

“When wearing a mask, the recognition rate can reach about 95%, which can ensure that most people can be identified,” Huang said, adding the success rate for people without mask is about 99.5%.

LOSING FACIAL INFORMATION
A big customer, not surprisingly, is the Ministry of Public Security, which runs the police.

Using Hanwang’s technology, the ministry can cross-reference images with its own database of names and other information and then identify and track people as they move about, Huang said.

“It can detect crime suspects, terrorists or make reports or warnings,” he said.

But the system struggles to identify people with both a mask and sunglasses, he said.

“In this situation, all of the key facial information is lost. In such cases recognition is tough,” Huang said.

The company has about 200 clients in Beijing using the technology, including the police, and expect scores more across 20 provinces to start installing it soon, Huang said.

It is not immediately clear how Chinese citizens are reacting to this new technology.

When it comes to other surveillance tools being used in the fight against the coronavirus, there has been some grumbling on social media but most people seem to be accepting extra intrusion, or even embracing it, as a means to deal with the health emergency.

Although domestic customers have been driving Hanwang’s business, Huang also said he expected more foreign interest, as the virus spreads around the world and more people wear face masks.

“It not only benefits Chinese people, but also, when the technology is applied globally, it can benefit the world,” he said.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Forget me if I sound way saltier than usual but there's been a... fuck it one of my loved ones died in front of me. 100% unrelated to corona. I doubt I should post today but I am thinking of posting a rant with my thoughts on emergency services. But... Honestly I shouldn't. Right now I don't think I remember how to function I should not be posting. But I do think I should express my thoughts on the matter... part of me thinks this is a cry for help. I really just can't remember how to live right now.

I found this guy Market Ticker . He's not medical , just some stock market watcher with a website design from 1995.
He tries to put some numbers on the likely outcomes, like we all are in this thread.
I like his rule of thumb : If you can climb several flights of stairs without getting winded, or run a 10K, you'll be OK. HAES fatties will be wiped out.

One thing which I hope someone who knows what they're talking about can comment on:


So can anyone (Lets be honest , Otterly or the spanish Emu guy) say if this is true?

Spoiler: Personal whining

Also , with all due respect to Uncle Joe and Johnny, I am starting to get actually worried now. Much more so than yesterday when I was still fairly sanguine. I know the absolute numbers are still very low in real terms, but I understand exponential growth. Not sure everybody else does...
Normal life is still carrying on as normal round here, work, schools etc. I wonder when that will change?

Yes it's true. Basically with mechanical respiration you're pumping oxigen into the lungs but as I said on prior comments if the lungs are necrotic, or filled with fluid, or just way too inflamed, then it doesn't matter how much you pump into them at that point because nothing will get to the bloodstream. Further, there are also complications in the bloodstream or other parts of the body and here I get to why I even bothered comenting today, because it's funny in a very dark way how life comes at you.

The loved one I just talked about died due to a brain rupture, their skull flooded with blood, which made it so oxygen couldn't get there. He did get mechanical respiration when the services got to him but, well, nothing in this world could've made that oxygen enter the brain. They died gasping for air with nothing anyone could do about it. I have no issues with spanish healthcare due to it btw, it was too fast and too hard. That's the thing, as I repeated many times when it comes to biology some battles are just lost as soon as they're started. Life just comes at you and the train's got no breaks. So, he's right, some cases can't be fixed by mechanical lungs. I bore witness to that today.

One thing dictatorships are good at is getting things done, no need for bureaucracy votes etc. Just tell them to do it and it's done. Even if it violates peoples personal freedom. I remember one person saying China bought the rest of world time to prepare for the outbreak by mass quarantines. But it seems the west fucked it all up in a multiple different ways until last week.

WHO offered the usa test kits, cdc said no we will make our own and have it not only test for covid19 but also sars and mers. Oops we fucked up the test. The only country that seems to be handling this well is south korea. Mass testing, that are basically drive thrus. Apps that let people know if someone is infected in their area etc. That's probably why their death rate is much lower than chinas and italy.

At the end of this the rest of the world needs to tell china to stop eating weird shit.

Germany needs to stop starting world wars and China needs to stop starting pandemics.

Saying dictatorships get shit done is absolutely retarded. All mussolinni did is take a country with a broken industrial base and break it further, then declare war on half the fucking planet. Hitler got a country wigh a good industrial base and all he did was drain its resources until their airforce sepukkued itself due to lack of fuel, and mao drove china to famine for literally no good reason other than his own officer's stupidity. Dictatorships just don't work.

Coomer vs Coofer, who shall prevail?



I think there's no way the markets won't be eating shit for at least this year, and that was pretty much locked in even if it had only (somehow) stayed in China.

BUT, I think it's far from certain how things play out politically. Trump has had the 100% right instinct regarding China and our dependence on foreign manufacturing generally (it's a yuge problem), and more people are starting to see that. Meanwhile, he was too focused on the stock market and failed to transition the admin to crisis mode early enough, allowing the CDC to fumble the initial testing (by not breathing enough fire down their necks).

I think the thing that will determine his fate is how the admin pivots to full on war-footing against this thing. If I were Trump I would be meeting with manufacturers and "requesting" them to start rebuilding US medical supply chain as fast as humanly possible, and making sure congress was ready with their rubber stamps and blank checks... and emergency presidential powers including IP nationalization and resource requisition laws (in case 3M somehow gets confused and thinks they can say "no"). We can get this shit done faster than people think, it simply requires force of will. Trump has a lot of will when he takes something seriously, and acute crisis such as this is precisely the purpose of the office of the President. So we'll see.

Also he is running against a Joe "Corn Pop" Biden.

Here's hoping your system can take it. But to be honest, american healthcare is the one that worries me in the west, outside of maybe the balkans for other reasons.

Anime was a mistake, to imagine telling your ancestors that people would have sexy cartoons of dangerous diseases, this is the luxury best timeline.

To be fair our ancestors were making poems and songs about wanting to bang the personification of death since ancient times, hell greek gods are basically waifus and husbandos, and the egyptians were furries to boot. So really, nothing's changed, people are just weird.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Forget me if I sound way saltier than usual but there's been a... fuck it one of my loved ones died in front of me. 100% unrelated to corona. I doubt I should post today but I am thinking of posting a rant with my thoughts on emergency services. But... Honestly I shouldn't. Right now I don't think I remember how to function I should not be posting. But I do think I should express my thoughts on the matter... part of me thinks this is a cry for help. I really just can't remember how to live right now.



Yes it's true. Basically with mechanical respiration you're pumping oxigen into the lungs but as I said on prior comments if the lungs are necrotic, or filled with fluid, or just way too inflamed, then it doesn't matter how much you pump into them at that point because nothing will get to the bloodstream. Further, there are also complications in the bloodstream or other parts of the body and here I get to why I even bothered comenting today, because it's funny in a very dark way how life comes at you.

The loved one I just talked about died due to a brain rupture, their skull flooded with blood, which made it so oxygen couldn't get there. He did get mechanical respiration when the services got to him but, well, nothing in this world could've made that oxygen enter the brain. They died gasping for air with nothing anyone could do about it. I have no issues with spanish healthcare due to it btw, it was too fast and too hard. That's the thing, as I repeated many times when it comes to biology some battles are just lost as soon as they're started. Life just comes at you and the train's got no breaks. So, he's right, some cases can't be fixed by mechanical lungs. I bore witness to that today.



Saying dictatorships get shit done is absolutely exceptional. All mussolinni did is take a country with a broken industrial base and break it further, then declare war on half the fucking planet. Hitler got a country wigh a good industrial base and all he did was drain its resources until their airforce sepukkued itself due to lack of fuel, and mao drove china to famine for literally no good reason other than his own officer's stupidity. Dictatorships just don't work.



Here's hoping your system can take it. But to be honest, american healthcare is the one that worries me in the west, outside of maybe the balkans for other reasons.



To be fair our ancestors were making poems and songs about wanting to bang the personification of death since ancient times, hell greek gods are basically waifus and husbandos, and the egyptians were furries to boot. So really, nothing's changed, people are just weird.

My condolences, that's perhaps one of the greatest tragedies one can face. I hope you and your surviving family members continue to take care of each other well and keep spirits up (notallthe way, definitely grieve too). Shock and grief are one hell of a thing. Love your updates and sass but if you dont post for a week its all good, as long as we know you're alright. Good luck, hope you and your family get some rest inthis hetitc time.

 

[Cutlass Supreme]

But how come doctors and hospitals can't get N95 masks but Chinese students seem to have a limitless supply?

A lot of factories in China that are even tangentially related to sewing or textiles have retooled very quickly and are making masks now. Mostly surgical masks, some n95 equivalents. Seriously, go on Alibaba and see how many general home goods factories are pumping these things out now. If the world really wants to divest from China, we'll have to compete with how damn fast their factories pivot to producing the next big thing. I'm having a hard time thinking that the dye sublimated t shirt shop down the street would drop fucking everything to sew surgical masks in a matter of weeks.

 

[I Exist]

Forget me if I sound way saltier than usual but there's been a... fuck it one of my loved ones died in front of me. 100% unrelated to corona. I doubt I should post today but I am thinking of posting a rant with my thoughts on emergency services. But... Honestly I shouldn't. Right now I don't think I remember how to function I should not be posting. But I do think I should express my thoughts on the matter... part of me thinks this is a cry for help. I really just can't remember how to live right now.

Hey man, It's gonna be okay.
It hurts bad now but time and happy memories of your loved one will heal you, trust me.
Please stay safe out there, fellow Kiwi. ❤

 

[Barnard]

As of now Poland will be controlling most every train and bus coming in from Germany and Czechia, and ships arriving to our ports (edit: this will be extended to our other borders within days). Organizers of mass public events were asked to cancel them, though that's not enforced yet.

 

[Slap47]

As of now Poland will be controlling most every train and bus coming in from Germany and Czechia, and ships arriving to our ports. Organizers of mass public events were asked to cancel them, though that's not enforced yet.

Poland survived the plague and will likely do so again.

Western Europe is using the disease as an opportunity to crack down on anti-liberal protests and reign in free expression - let the migrants come. Eastern Europe is taking the disease seriously.

 

[Buddy Booth]

Dunno if it's been reported, but whatever. Latest news from Italy: prison riots! Inmates are rioting over being denied family visits due to virus concerns.
In Foggia some 50-60 inmates actually managed break out and escape!

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