Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

Status
Not open for further replies.
They also have something of a Welfare State in Saudia Arabia, If Oil stays low the House of Saud is either gonna have to cut government spending or Dip into that cash reserve (Do you think Rich Sand Niggers are gonna give money in their bank account away?)

Not only that, but Russia, having an extractive economy, needs to sell every barrel of oil it can to keep things going. The ruble took a big hit today.


Russian Ruble Plummets Amid Oil Market Chaos
The ruble hit a four-year low against the U.S. dollar as oil prices crashed 30% overnight.

Updated: 28 minutes ago
ruble.jpg
The ruble was trading at 74 to $1 Monday morning.Donat Sorokin / TASS

The Russian ruble plummeted almost 10% Monday, falling to its lowest level in more than four years, as oil prices crashed following the breakdown of the Russia-Saudi Arabia pact to limit production.

The ruble was trading at 75 to $1 on Monday evening in Moscow — a 9.5% drop — after another wild start to the week for financial markets around the world.

Russia’s rejection of a renewed round of oil production cuts in the OPEC+ format at a crunch meeting in Vienna on Friday shocked the global energy markets and has prompted analysts to talk of an “oil price war” between two of the world’s largest energy suppliers.

Benchmark Brent crude oil fell more than 30% to a low of $31.02 a barrel when trading opened on Asian markets Monday morning — the sharpest one-day loss in almost three decades. It climbed back to around $34 a barrel by the time markets closed in the U.S.

Falling oil prices put the Russian ruble under pressure, as Moscow still relies on energy exports for a large portion of its budget. The so-called budget breakeven rate is $50, while profits on oil sold about $42 a barrel are funnelled into Russia’s swelling National Welfare Fund (NWF).

With prices below those levels, Russia will either have to run into its substantial coffers to fund day-to-day government spending or borrow more.

Russia’s Finance Ministry confirmed Monday it would sell foreign exchange reserves in a bid to stabilize the ruble, adding: “The value of liquid assets of the NWF and funds in the account for additional oil and gas revenues stand at more than 10.1 trillion rubles ($150 billion) or 9.2% of GDP. These funds are sufficient to cover the shortfall in income from falling oil prices to $25-30 per barrel for 6-10 years.”

Stable oil prices in recent years, coupled with President Vladimir Putin’s conservative economic management, have helped Russia amass significant international reserves and bring down its vulnerability to such kind of external shocks, analysts say.

“Russia is in a better position to fight this one than it used to be. Financial reserves are $570 billion — or almost $100 billion more than Saudi [Arabia]’s. Russia also has the flexible currency policy and will allow the rouble to fall into the mid-70s versus the dollar,” said analysts at consultancy firm Macro Advisory.

However, the economic impact of the coronavirus has tested that narrative. And now, analysts doubt whether Russia is prepared to spend billions of dollars of reserves to support its economy through a period of low oil prices in an apparent gamble to undermine U.S. shale producers.

“Russia’s problem is around its high cost production. Its oil industry faces acute risks if oil reaches $30. The government’s budget is more resilient, but a significant drop in prices will make it more difficult for Moscow to fund its National Projects, which are the centerpiece of its economic growth strategy,” analysts at Eurasia Group noted.
“The most likely outcome of this crisis is entrenchment into a painful process that lasts several weeks or months, until prices are low enough to change fundamental views in Moscow and Riyadh back to some form of compromise on resumed OPEC+ production restraint,” they added.
 
Things don't seem to be getting too bad in my state of California, despite all the coronavirus infections in it, from my personal experience. It really does speak to how poorly China and Iran are dealing with the threat when California is doing relatively okay whereas Iran and China are getting ravaged.
 
OK this is amazing.
1583785705400.png

Congressman Matt Gaetz wore a gas mask in the House to EPICLY OWN THE LIBS about the 'just a flu'. Then it came out that one of his fellow Florida men had died from coronavirus and he pretended that he was raising awareness.
https://archive.li/XKTFE

Now, it turns out that Gaetz came into contact with CPAC plague carrier Alan Berger, and he only found out about this today because of the coverup on behalf of the masters of the GOP. What did Gaetz also do today? Oh, just flew on Air Force One with Trump.
1583785500694.png

https://archive.li/ca35P
1583785533737.png

https://archive.li/THSXH
 
They also have something of a Welfare State in Saudia Arabia, If Oil stays low the House of Saud is either gonna have to cut government spending or Dip into that cash reserve (Do you think Rich Sand Niggers are gonna give money in their bank account away?)
Nigga, they dismember inconvenient people in their embassies, Do you really think they give a shit about giving money to anyone but the military?
 
Went to my local Lidl. No TP or kitchen roll (paper towels as it otherwise known as) to be found. But as previously mentioned, boxes and boxes of tissue. Not sure why as the value boxes of tissues, work great as TP, so that's dumb.

Tissues don't break up well on contact with water like actual toilet paper does and in older or aleady slightly clogged pipes can result in a full on blockage. Just a warning. Pretty much nothing part from normal TP should really be flushed. Certainly not wet wipes and the 'people' who shove disposable nappies down there should be publically castrated/spayed and possibly put in a sack and thrown from tall buildings.

I mean, in the apocalypse we all have to do what we have to do and tissues will do for toilet paper in a crisis (as will copies of the Guardian) but it's as well to know they can cause problems in quantity in the pipes and sewer system.

I'm old enough that I remember the appalling 'medicated' tracing paper type toilet paper (Izal?) that used to be par for the course in schools in the UK. Totally non-absorbant and literally could be used to trace your mate's drawings with. If I got through that horror, I can get through a normal TP shortage, I guess.
 
Nigga, they dismember inconvenient people in their embassies, Do you really think they give a shit about giving money to anyone but the military?
Yeah when those people start getting pissed when the check from their do nothing "Executive" Oil job that they have had for all their life stops showing up. Oil is the only thing Saudia Arabia has going for it, If Russia starts going to hell because of Oil..SA won't be far behind.
 
OK this is amazing.
View attachment 1180447
Congressman Matt Gaetz wore a gas mask in the House to EPICLY OWN THE LIBS about the 'just a flu'. Then it came out that one of his fellow Florida men had died from coronavirus and he pretended that he was raising awareness.
https://archive.li/XKTFE

Now, it turns out that Gaetz came into contact with CPAC plague carrier Alan Berger, and he only found out about this today because of the coverup on behalf of the masters of the GOP. What did Gaetz also do today? Oh, just flew on Air Force One with Trump.
View attachment 1180441
https://archive.li/ca35P
View attachment 1180443
https://archive.li/THSXH
This is amazing :story:
 
Our equivalent of Senate speaker tried to dodge airport procedures after coming back from Italy and made some literal "just a flu, bro" tweets. He's a medical doctor, a renowned surgeon. I'm glad our Senate is meaningless and all he can do is spout nonsense.
Good news, dude's not infected! With a "sense of responsibility", he decided it would be prudent to get himself tested for the plague. After several days. After interacting with a bunch of senators, diplomats and journalists. In a public admission room. I'm so glad he's up there as a shining beacon for all to follow.
 
Tissues don't break up well on contact with water like actual toilet paper does and in older or aleady slightly clogged pipes can result in a full on blockage. Just a warning. Pretty much nothing part from normal TP should really be flushed. Certainly not wet wipes and the 'people' who shove disposable nappies down there should be publically castrated/spayed and possibly put in a sack and thrown from tall buildings.

I mean, in the apocalypse we all have to do what we have to do and tissues will do for toilet paper in a crisis (as will copies of the Guardian) but it's as well to know they can cause problems in quantity in the pipes and sewer system.

I'm old enough that I remember the appalling 'medicated' tracing paper type toilet paper (Izal?) that used to be par for the course in schools in the UK. Totally non-absorbant and literally could be used to trace your mate's drawings with. If I got through that horror, I can get through a normal TP shortage, I guess.

How was it "medicated"? Was it antibacterial or what?
 
Wu flu aside, has anyone else noticed that this season has made people more prone to get sick? I haven't gotten properly sick since elementary school, but this winter alone I got sick three times, although they were very minor, like two to three days of feeling like shit and then back to normal.

Nigga that ain't the magic of this winter. That's you getting older.
 
Things don't seem to be getting too bad in my state of California, despite all the coronavirus infections in it, from my personal experience. It really does speak to how poorly China and Iran are dealing with the threat when California is doing relatively okay whereas Iran and China are getting ravaged.

While I would expect the West to do better overall, it's way too early to be patting ourselves on the back. Until the peak of this has passed, we can't properly compare the effectiveness of our responses to those of other nations.
 
Dont even care if I get the virus because judging from my age group I can shrug it off.

Yeah but you are a Trojan horse.

JUST got back from my kid's pediatrician's office. I told him my concerns and asked him about his.
Here is the context: I am pregnant, due in May. I have a son who is 5, and attends public school. I have a daughter who is 2 years of age. I am an older mom in my 4th decade.

Dr. works in downtown Los Angeles and has admitting privileges at Children's Hospital LA, and another hospital nearby. He makes his rounds when babies are born, and when they are in the NICU and the PICU.

Pediatrician is over the age of 60. I believe that he also teaches at a local medical school.

My purpose for sharing this background information, is to enable people to gague the reliability of the information, for themselves.

He told me that healthy children between 0 and 10 can contract COVID-19, but they are probably not going to show extreme symptoms, or any symptoms, etc.

So I asked him:

Q: Can our son bring it home from school asymptomaticly?
A: Yes.
Q: Can he put me on my deathbed?
A: No, because there is nothing wrong with you.
Q: Well ... at least physically, right?
A: You are not diabetic, have weak lungs, a bad heart or compromised kidney function, correct? Then you shouldn't worry.
Q: So basically "pregnancy" or "age" alone are not risk factors?
A: The basic risk factor is having a preexisting condition or disease process. The virus seems to be particularly fond of lungs. As we age, disease process can develop, therefore the risk of fatality is higher, in older people.
Q: So basically this is an opportunistic infection?
A: Of a sort, yes.
Q: So I Don't have to worry about burying a couple of kids in a few months?
A: Not babies and toddlers, they don't have any diseases going on, and newborn inherits your immunity.
Q: Well aren't you concerned about your exposure to all these kids, due to your age?
A: No, I am not. I am healthy. It is not age alone. It is underlying conditions.

The end.

Ok, this information is date-stamped.

Like I said, he has had a practice for about 40 years, and he has clearly informed himself on this topic. He is dealing with a population that has 4 generations under 1 roof, in crowded urban conditions. He is a pediatrician and not a gerontologist. But he did confirm that a school-aged child or any young healthy person, can infect others. And you or I might infect each other, and we visit grandma, and kill her, if she has weak lungs.

It doesn't have to be grandma. It can be a TB survivor, a veteran, a smoker, a neighbor on dialysis ... please let's think of others. That is all I have to say.
 
Last edited:
How was it "medicated"? Was it antibacterial or what?

God knows, it was the claim on the packaging wrap thing. IZAL MEDICATED. Impregnated with disinfectant? Who knows. Thinking back, it did smell of something disinfectant.

Look, here a pic!

1583786409227.png



Iconic little roll redolent of the kind of institutional austerity and lack of give a shit for anyone's confort that made you just clench and wait until you got home where your mum had the sense to buy soft, absorbant Andrex. Proof if one should need it that things weren't always better way back when you were a child.

 
You know what ISN'T sold out, anywhere I've been today, at the height of this tomfoolery? TISSUES.

Boxes of them, fully stocked, as well as those little travel sized packs of them. Plenty of those, everywhere. Tissues being the thing you're supposed to catch your fucking germs in instead of spraying them onto hands, surfaces, into the air and onto other people forced to work or stand next to you at close quarters in shops etc.

All these twats buying insane amounts of bog roll (and I'm thinking now I bet some people are doing this so they can try and sell it at vulturous prices to the desperate) and pasta and none of them buying the one thing that stops infections spreading at source.

Morons.

I don't carry tissues but always carry a handkerchief. Use tissues at home. With allergies, use a lot of tissues.
 
Outside of the chink propaganda. I could believe UV light to be good at killing viri. Hell I know it is. You know what else it's good at killing? Most things. Sufficiently ionizing UV light is a mutagen, don't use it on your head if you don't want braincancer.
Could you make a UV iron for surface disinfection that only targets the surface and doesnt bathe the room in light?
You know what ISN'T sold out, anywhere I've been today, at the height of this tomfoolery? TISSUES.

Boxes of them, fully stocked, as well as those little travel sized packs of them. Plenty of those, everywhere. Tissues being the thing you're supposed to catch your fucking germs in instead of spraying them onto hands, surfaces, into the air and onto other people forced to work or stand next to you at close quarters in shops etc.

All these twats buying insane amounts of bog roll (and I'm thinking now I bet some people are doing this so they can try and sell it at vulturous prices to the desperate) and pasta and none of them buying the one thing that stops infections spreading at source.

Morons.
Uhh TP can double as tissue, the reverse is not necessarily true. Also I don't know this for certain but I am willing to bet TP is cheaper compared to the same amount of tissues.
 
MediKiwis, any thoughts on this? I mean is it just optimistic soundbyte shitposting? Like I understand the need to establish a retroactive antibody test, but how does one look to reduce the incubation period?

Or are they just trying to narrow it down/confirm the actual 'active' incubation time?
The latter. For quarantine to work people have to stick to it. The shorter it is the more people will stick to it. For all the early reports about month long incubation, most people seem to be seeing symptoms in a week or so. So that’s making them think that the month long ones were in fact maybe later infections. If they can pin down the exact incubation range, they can advise better on quarantine And contact tracing etc. There’s of course also a significant economic factor. And the academic interest in characterising the disease,
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back