Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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That's a 6.6% death rate. Would love to know more demographic information.

I'd like to know the demographics of their death rates but I'm willing to bet there's many male smokers who're over 60 that are already sick.

Italy as a country has some of the oldest people. Something like 60% of it's population are over age 40. Couple it with a heavy smoking culture, Italy has a population of 60 Million or so. In 2018, there were 11.6 million cigarette smokers in Italy. Smoking was more common among males than among females and it was particularly habitual for men aged 25 to 44 years old, and their habit of fairly frequent interpersonal contact and you literally have a perfect storm for mass death.

There are a lot of people in the at risk groups in Italy.
 
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That's a 6.6% death rate. Would love to know more demographic information.
The main thing is just that they can’t treat everyone. They aren’t even assessing the over 60s. Sixty is not old, people are dying because the health service is overwhelmed. There may be effects from social practices like kissing hello, or smoking, or demographics, but most of it I bet is just overwhelm. What I’m hearing out of Lombardy is shocking, utterly shocking. I am staggered, and horrified by it.

I cannot say this strongly enough. This now is the point of explosion. If you can - Stay home. Keep the vulnerable home. Avoid any and all gatherings of people. If you’ve got kids, keep them home. Take vitamin D. Wash your hands. Take your shoes off at the door. Get your groceries delivered or go at a quieter time.

any country that hasn’t closed down absolutely everything non essential is now on a course to be like Italy in a fortnight.

You know ive been fairly calm this whole thread. I’m not prone to panic. So this is me telling you now : Stay home, if you can. If you need to lie through your arse to your employers and the kids schools, do. No ones coming to check you’re coughing. We have two weeks to serious, catastrophic overload. Please, fellow kiwis, stay home. Godspeed. It’s about to get very bad.
 
So is this thot suggesting that we don't trust our own party leaders?

We don't. There's been a distinct lack of visible leadership on this and before that on the bushfires.

Both the federal and state governments and oppositions could be doing a whole lot more to assure people that they have this under control and that there are plans in place to ensure people will continue to have access to essentials and to health care.

The initial toilet paper panic was stupid, but it snow-balled partly because there was no strong counter-message from our leaders.
 
A lot of shit getting real in the States and abroad. Regional basketball tournaments are cancelled, the top German and Austrian ice hockey leagues cancelled their postseasons, schools are closing, Seattle is banning sporting events and gatherings of over 250 people, and the University of Dayton is rioting due to the school shutting down. The answer for Dayton: Massive street party.


- Virus that spreads rapidly in close contact
- Massive riots and parties to propagate potential contact

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Took 'em long enough!

You're about five weeks too late, Tedros.
 
I'm pretty sure the guy already unknowingly spreaded it on the hospital staff, so I'm scared if my aunt decided to spread it to me if she decides to visit me and the cases that will blow up afterwards.

You know you have agency here and can simply tell your aunt not to visit for a few weeks.
 
Coronavirus: Biggest daily rise as UK cases reach 460

The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the UK has now reached 460, after the biggest rise in a single day.

It comes as two more people with the virus died in the UK, bringing the total to eight.
 
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You guys asked for a board about this shit so find a way to organize this. Make as many threads as seems reasonable. Do not copy+paste articles. Use archives and excerpts.
@Yotsubaaa @Token Weeaboo and myself are putting together all the articles, videos and important posts from the thread. Some are already posted but the thread moves so fast and things need to be archived so we are working on closing up the gap right now.

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We have a section for memes and stuff too
 
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Well in the meantime, Colorado is up to 27 now, no deaths yet that I'm aware of.
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It's fucking disturbing how many people in my office cough/sneeze into their hands and proceed to touch everything without washing hands. They got sanitizer and notices everywhere telling people to wash their hands, along with sending out an email to remind people.

Will not be suprised if those numbers blow up.
 
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Denmark closes all schools and universities due to coronavirus, orders all public sector employees with non-critical jobs to be sent home from Friday - Reuters

 
This disease would be so much better if it targeted single women about 46 years of age, with no children, who are taking medication for chronic pain and have been on birth control since their teens. It would be great if it was transmitted through cat poo.


They never took responsibility for their lives in the first place, using medicine to stifle natural responses. It's unfair they get to stick with their normal routines - sitting at home along every night binge watching sitcom reruns from the 90s - while the rest of the world suffers.
grown women without spouses or children generally work & have busy lives. some women choose to not have kids chiefly because they're too busy with work or school. aside from suburbanites, it seems like you're implying it's better to sit on govt assistance w kids you can't afford or be a housewife.
 
It's time to take stock.

Whether we like it or not.

This may be a kind of the reckoning many of us have been 'praying' for, for a while.

Better this, than a big bad meteor hitting the deck somewhere on Planet Earth, or worse, landing in the soup that covers 70 percent of the big blue marble. That's just a matter of time as well. But first things first.

Another little anecdote from my little foray out today (my last for a good while now as I'm all set): buying the few bits of groceries I left till last (fresh Veg so I can make food for my freezer - two lots in fact - one for now and one for when the veg starts to go off in a week or two), I had a little conversation with a rough and ready lady there who I have known for years, and passed pleasantries with, but never quite had a political conversation in earnest with, just passing the time of day.

She saw me browsing a shelf and asked if there was anything I needed help with. Odd. Of course not. She was just striking up conversation. So I bit. "Oh, just getting the last of my supplies in before I self-quarantine".

'Oh, not got any symptoms have you?'

This was asked more out of genuine concern than fear.

"No, just going to make sure. I've got everything I want. Things will change a lot in the next week or two".

The gist was that she realised that things weren't so bad here NOW, compared to other places, but she knew enough to say that we will be like Italy in a fortnight. Whether that is correct of course is academic. But she's following the script. A week ago it was all just "It's just a flu, bro'".

I'm making particular efforts because just as I was going to get checked out at the Doc's for my auto-immune shit, this shit happens. Now I don't think I want to go in to a doctor's surgery in the next few weeks as this thing seems like it might be airborne and hang around in the atmosphere, so to speak.

It's a shame, I would have like to have volunteered. Even for doing basic stuff like cleaning places. Very valuable job. But I daren't risk it right now. I might still try and go and get myself checked quickly, because the prognosis for what I have is very good (quite 'curable' with a simple pill) and that might boost my immune system, or rather, stop it from attacking my body like a semi-flu day in day out.

Whatever, life changes for all of us now. Even those for whom their reality depends on how much they can deny things and shout out loud 'La La can't hear you!'.

How much it goes back to 'normal' is anyone's guess. I've got a feeling though, and I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think any of us will see the exact same 'normal' after this thing has ridden itself out. And what? Comes back next Xmas, next year, every year?

Will we see a massive cull of the old and infirm? Will we see this thing mutate and cause cytokine storms in the very young and healthy just like the 3rd wave of Spanish Flu? Is it even possible we might get a BOGOF deal with this (buy one get one free) and get two different long-lasting strains come out of this whole nasty stew?

Not everyone is an epidemiologist. And not even the epidemiologists know yet. So it seems a little silly to try to even second-guess them.

I've had the worst kind of flu before. I was in bed for nearly a month. Delirium. Fever. No appetite. Serious back pain in the kidneys while the immune system fought like a trooper to counteract the enemy within. I wouldn't want to experience that now. Then again, I'm ignorant. Would that perhaps mean that my body which is constantly fighting diseases (even though they aren't there) would eradicate this thing quicker?

I'm not so sure. It's an interesting question. There are nearly a 100 different types of auto-immune diseases, from very mild to quite life threatening. I've heard it's not a good thing to have with this new 'lurgy' going around.

It seems that about 10 percent of the population at large worldwide, have some kind of auto-immune problem.

I think the best advice is if you or anyone you know has anything like that, then hide away and self-quarantine. Ride this first big wave out. You don't want to get caught up in the brouhaha of all those people needing ICU at the same time. Even if you get sick later, if it happens at a quieter time, your chances of survival are that much greater.

This is all depending on where you live of course. And at what particular stage the Pandemic is where you live.

Now is the time to look after family and friends. You may not even know some of them have auto-immune problems (some people don't like to admit these things in RL).

It would also be a good time to check on neighbors and elderly people in your community. Maybe educate them. Put some basic contingency plans in place without causing alarm. Forewarned is forearmed.

I'd love to say: The JEWS did this!

But it wasn't. It was those bastardy chinkys.

They knew about this and that is why they locked down entire regions. If they had forewarned us, we would have been forearmed.

But they just swept it under the carpet.

For the moment it doesn't really matter. Even if it was a manufactured bio-weapon that got accidentally released.

I'm not too hysterical about the response of the govt. What can they do. I'm sure they have plans in place.

But like the lady in the grocery shop alluded to today: They could have done a lot more to stop this spread.

I tend to agree. Not talking about them quarantining entire regions. But they could have stopped flights in from China and they could have put checks in place on people coming back from Italy, as recently as a few days ago - they could just swan through customs.

It's easy to be critical I know. But a little criticism is healthy. Impotently raging at the govt. for not protecting us achieves very little.

Do what you can for yourself. Your family. Your friends. Your community. Or wtf order you see fit.

There is still time to prep.

Everyone should be prepping every day until they can't prep no more. When they are locked down, or come down with this thing themselves.

I'm still hopeful short-term. My worries are more longer-based and how this thing will insinuate itself back in to the global cycle of yearly or bi-annual major types of flu/coronavirus.

I'm healthy enough to laugh off one of those 3 day runny nose, slight cough, slight headache things. Like Eugene would say: it's just a cold bro'.

But I really wouldn't want to get another of those H1N1 / H1N2 fuckers that put you on your back for a month and leaving you feeling like you just had a serious kicking. I'm not as young as I used to be.

But who knows? Maybe it's better to get some variant now before it mutates, so that you can build up immunity before it attacks you again in a year's time in a far more virulent form.

This is one thing I have learned in my quick crash course in epidemiology. The virus is constantly rolling the dice.

Sometimes all you can do is not play.

But that's easier said than done.
 
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